Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
niroshido
Caldari Madhatters Inc. Enuma Elish.
|
Posted - 2007.12.21 16:07:00 -
[91]
in spite the op is an ex-lv , and more the point, now a BOB member, he is not far from the truth. while i use my main for this i will tell of my version
KOS & LV once were friends, but LV didnt admire KOS's dictatorship, KOS's leader is infamous for his incompetance and arrogance (coincidently LV had the same, yet KOS leadership was one man). When goons finally arrived in the area, KOS couldnt take the heat and nap'd the turkey out of the coalition forces, and through incompetance, litterally left the area faster ppl would leave a hall if i started singing, needless to say KOS pos's remained behind in what can be considered a "oh god get the heck out of the area ppl!!" move. LV then KOS'd KOS (haha! ironic isnt it, there tag suits the end of a friendship)
then again i also wanted to generate this comment, before goons moved into the area, the old southern coalition was falling apart by the seams, it seemed to me that the troubles of KOS, LV, -V- were distant news, where my alliance at the time was having its own problems. The collapse of the south was not due to one alliance, but was down to the lack of commitment made by all parts of whom were considered southern coalition members. The very fact that the alliances moved farther away made it so easy for RSF to come in and pick off the weaker players first
|
Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.21 18:19:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Tozmeister
we do kill the odd intelligent one as well.
Yeh got me a few times although according to your killboard im doing ok isk wise on kills go me :D TBH its pretty much down to keeto hehe. As ive said before though i have a ton of respect for DR as for the msot part they were pretty cool in local and very professional.
|
sov68n
GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.21 22:39:00 -
[93]
so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
|
Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.21 23:52:00 -
[94]
Originally by: sov68n so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
The free cake i am reliably informed.
|
Jim Linger
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2007.12.21 23:55:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Jim Linger on 21/12/2007 23:55:44
Originally by: sov68n so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
'scuse me for making the assumption you weren't in gs then
basicly, ra goon really didnt know if they were gonna win or not. it was a close back and forth war, kos was a descent chunk in the col. of the south's fleet. when they asked for a nap, it was a nice benefit to ragoon, so they accepted.
atomic dramabomb insued
(cake was also a factor)
i'm not an alt i just post like one |
Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.22 00:53:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Jim Linger Edited by: Jim Linger on 21/12/2007 23:55:44
Originally by: sov68n so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
'scuse me for making the assumption you weren't in gs then
basicly, ra goon really didnt know if they were gonna win or not. it was a close back and forth war, kos was a descent chunk in the col. of the south's fleet. when they asked for a nap, it was a nice benefit to ragoon, so they accepted.
atomic dramabomb insued
(cake was also a factor)
LOL Jim WTF you gone all i love KOS :D Next time you swing by c3 we will greet you with cake and alcohol rather than guns honest.
|
Jim Linger
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2007.12.22 02:18:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Jim Linger on 22/12/2007 02:18:46
Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: Jim Linger Edited by: Jim Linger on 21/12/2007 23:55:44
Originally by: sov68n so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
'scuse me for making the assumption you weren't in gs then
basicly, ra goon really didnt know if they were gonna win or not. it was a close back and forth war, kos was a descent chunk in the col. of the south's fleet. when they asked for a nap, it was a nice benefit to ragoon, so they accepted.
atomic dramabomb insued
(cake was also a factor)
LOL Jim WTF you gone all i love KOS :D Next time you swing by c3 we will greet you with cake and alcohol rather than guns honest.
i've always loved kos :-P, thats why i try to greif the carebears to the point of going back to empire ^.^ also: there's less demogod for me to argue with
i'm not an alt i just post like one |
StealthRavenx
Caldari Nocturnal Damnation Corp Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 06:21:00 -
[98]
Wow....Just...wow
Btw, Hi Jim :P ________________________________________
|
Gorvan
Minmatar Deathwatch Inc. Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 06:43:00 -
[99]
Seems someone has been neglected, call some mental help its gonna be ok.
I was a member of KOS when in WC, and the way things are done now seem quite different in a good way.
As far of fielding pilots... we always Love Pew Pew near MP5 come and visit.
Gorvan
|
Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 06:46:00 -
[100]
Ugh THIS THREAD.
The real story is KOS basically got headshotted in WC because of poor pos setups and lost their main outpost in one day. They were basically done at that point and worked out an agreement where they would get standings for a short time while they withdrew their forces and left the war. The plan was they would go up to geminate with smash and rebuild their alliance and figure things out.
LV and co took this to mean they were switching sides which was not the case at all. They decided to set KOS - instead of just letting them leave. Things in Geminate didn't work out and KOS decided to approach RSF about coming back in and fighting LV because of what LV did as KOS was withdrawing.
|
|
Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:09:00 -
[101]
Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
Until such time as KOS get in a serious heads up nut cruncher of a fight and win they are unlikely to get much respect from a large proportion of the eve community.
|
Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:22:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
Until such time as KOS get in a serious heads up nut cruncher of a fight and win they are unlikely to get much respect from a large proportion of the eve community.
So basically what you are saying is that KOS is a lot like FIX.
|
Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:37:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
Until such time as KOS get in a serious heads up nut cruncher of a fight and win they are unlikely to get much respect from a large proportion of the eve community.
So basically what you are saying is that KOS is a lot like FIX.
nope, you can attempt to draw parallels between fix and KOS all you want. However Fix has had the nut crunching fights and have remained for many years now.
Hell I remember fighting fix back in sa days and they where a bloody good opponent (yes many have now left fix see many members of outbreak as an example) but bottom line is they earned there place.
KOS is yet to do this in the eyes of many.
|
Teldi Beinew
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:41:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
At least they aren't paying 6b/month for it.
|
duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:45:00 -
[105]
Observation: In three months BOB will not exist as a space holding entity. KOS will. Imagine that huh? -----------
|
Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:52:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Teldi Beinew
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
At least they aren't paying 6b/month for it.
Neither did fix
|
duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:52:00 -
[107]
Originally by: sov68n so... why did GS&RED nap KOS in the first place?
Footsoldier view. Others might have a different idea. But heres how I see it;-
When RA + the Goons came in and one-shotted KOS's systems, RA (from the best I could tell) kind of felt a bit sorry for them and offered them a NAP to get there stuff out. Now at the time KOS would of said "Go away" had LV who was still quite the superpower come in to bail them out (see BOS for more tales of LV in this respect).
LV rather than understanding the dire unwinnable situation KOS was in , could of either gone in to bat for its next door neighbor OR accepted that KOS was in a no-win situation.
So instead they set KOS red. RA and the GOONS saw this as a pretty ****ty way to treat a friend, and offered a more protracted NAP. The KOS guys feeling justifiably outraged at their treatment by LV which was MUCH worse than RA's treatment of them (A friend who betrays you is much worse than an enemy who just does what enemys do) and started rolling with us in fleets.
And so a friendship began.
Its fashionable to kick KOS. Sure they have had farmers abusing their trust more often than most would like, and sometimes they've blown things. But they are solid and they'll stay. Simple as that.
-----------
|
Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:53:00 -
[108]
Originally by: duckmonster Observation: In three months BOB will not exist as a space holding entity. KOS will. Imagine that huh?
Observation? I think the word you are looking for is forecast or prediction?
|
Teldi Beinew
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 13:58:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Neither did fix
I am aware that it may feel like a long time ago but BoB did once have allies other than fix
|
duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 14:00:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Abriana Overlord
Originally by: duckmonster Observation: In three months BOB will not exist as a space holding entity. KOS will. Imagine that huh?
Observation? I think the word you are looking for is forecast or prediction?
naw. forecasts and predictions refer to uncertainties. -----------
|
|
duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 14:02:00 -
[111]
Oh hey. Vile Rats take is much more likely to be accurate than mine btw, him being diplomat and all that jazz. -----------
|
Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 14:07:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Teldi Beinew
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Neither did fix
I am aware that it may feel like a long time ago but BoB did once have allies other than fix
iirc the thread was about KOS. Vile attempted to draw parallels beween FIX and KOS. I responded with a view. I fail to see the relevance of your post to this thread
|
Teldi Beinew
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 14:11:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Abriana Overlord iirc the thread was about KOS. Vile attempted to draw parallels beween FIX and KOS. I responded with a view. I fail to see the relevance of your post to this thread
the relevance is that kos has far more dignity than the alliances bob chose to surround itself with could ever muster
kos is also unlike most of those in that it still holds space
|
Deaell Portt
PACK OF W0LVES
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 14:13:00 -
[114]
KOS space are good training ground to recon pilots. Most ppl in KOS are alt chars to make money. But i saw good pvpers in KOS too not only carebears. They do not smack on local so for me they are better then Goons. Who always want u smack to dead.
|
Sycosys
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 16:33:00 -
[115]
I heart ISK farmers.
|
Jim Linger
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 18:45:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Jim Linger on 23/12/2007 18:46:42 I think we're forgetting the point of this thread, which is how much of a tard the OP is.
i'm not an alt i just post like one |
Amerame
Section XIII
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 19:07:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
Until such time as KOS get in a serious heads up nut cruncher of a fight and win they are unlikely to get much respect from a large proportion of the eve community.
So basically what you are saying is that KOS is a lot like FIX.
And that would be wrong. KOS was told that someday in the future (and remember that at the time RSF held like 5 stations between our 3 alliances) we would assist them militarily to take over hostile space. Which is what happened, KOS took stations directly from our enemies, we didn't give them away / sold them RSF stations, unlike BoB allies. Is there actually any BoB allies that ever took a station directly from the enemy ? I kinda understand BoB, puts you in a better position to negociate terms when you already have the stations.
|
Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 19:11:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Abriana Overlord Alliances such as RA and Goon earned there space. I believe many do not think KOS have earned there space and have instead rode on the coat tails of peeps who have now given them space (easier than managing 345934634653 POS)
Until such time as KOS get in a serious heads up nut cruncher of a fight and win they are unlikely to get much respect from a large proportion of the eve community.
So basically what you are saying is that KOS is a lot like FIX.
And that would be wrong. KOS was told that someday in the future (and remember that at the time RSF held like 5 stations between our 3 alliances) we would assist them militarily to take over hostile space. Which is what happened, KOS took stations directly from our enemies, we didn't give them away / sold them RSF stations, unlike BoB allies. Is there actually any BoB allies that ever took a station directly from the enemy ? I kinda understand BoB, puts you in a better position to negociate terms when you already have the stations.
Dammit Amerame. I was just going for a juicy zing and you had to go prove me wrong :(
Sorry KOS, you are nothing like FIX.
|
Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2007.12.23 20:28:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Scavok
They may have had their space in Tenerifis mostly handed over to them when ISS and LV fell apart, but they've earned it a few times over since then entirely thanks to their own efforts. Nobody and everybody earned the space in Paragon Soul and Esoteria, they deserve their space there as much as anyone else to contributed to beating BoB earlier.
I think ill take a moment to give a KOS view of these events.
. KOS has never claimed they would have took the space in tenerifis alone as there was no way for them To match the forces that LV was bringing against them. What people fail to realise is that we basically lived out of pos in C3- for the entire time and we damned well earned that system.
As scavok said when BOB invaded we basically did our very best to hold out until the time was right to reclaim it (it was only one system not two i seem to recall). After fruitless atempts to retake it with goon due to us being able to engage with titan in system we eventually retook it with some epic pos spam under bobs nose.
When we invaded AZN we knew there wasnt much chance of success as there was no way alone we could face off against BOB but we were willing to try and create a new front for BOB to take preassure off our allies. I was there when we lost the freighter but our objective of forcing bob to come deal with another system under attack was accomplished.
In regards to the rise invasion of KW that was just LOL. Actually quite enjoyed it as it gave decent pvp on our doorstep. I would like to take the moment to point out that those towers only made it into system after RISE had to phone for help from BOB and DR. The entier time they were there goons were busy in omist and we weathered it pretty much alone. And of course once BOB was busy with their own stuff we took those towers down. I might also add that we were in RIT practically every day killing thier towers alongside goon contrary to the popular belief that we sat on our backsides for months.
In regards to the taking of PS we went in there and dropped out towers and killed the remaining bob towers there. I dont think any alliance can claim to have fought hard for those systems as there was no fight to be had.
Since the taking of Paragon KOS has been all over the place. We have been roaming in Period basis (while DL was there), Been hanging out in querious (Hanging with UNL is fun i might add). And we have also been in FAT recently looking for a good fight.
As ive said in alpot of KOS bashing threads just because we dont generally have a big forum prescence doesnt mean we arent doing anything and more importanly it doesnt mean we havent been there for our allies over the last half a year or so.
|
Jim Linger
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2007.12.24 01:14:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Firkragg
When we invaded AZN we knew there wasnt much chance of success as there was no way alone we could face off against BOB but we were willing to try and create a new front for BOB to take preassure off our allies. I was there when we lost the freighter but our objective of forcing bob to come deal with another system under attack was accomplished.
Was is kos or goon (or someone else) that sent like 2 unescorted freighters into azn while it was owned by bob?
i'm not an alt i just post like one |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |