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Illyrinia
Caldari
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:00:00 -
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ill make it simple *zips up flame suit* why no nos range bonus on pilgrim, when Arazu, rapier get bonus to thier main attribute? *puts flame suit helmet on*
serious question here... curious on wtf is the problem?
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 14/12/2007 13:15:45
1. How could we answer this question?
2. To expect CCP to answer this question, it should probably be in the correct forum and a bit better-worded. Something like:
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The pilgrim currently receive a bonus to Nosferatu transfer amount, while the Curse receives a bonus to Nosferatu Transfer amount and Range. Given the bonuses of other recon ships, I feel that this is discrepancy significantly limits the combat-effectiveness of the Pilgrim by forcing it into close-range combat. Other recon ships generally fight at much farther range, out of the reach of Stasis Webifiers and Warp Disruptors.
I would like the developers to comment on the reasoning behind this choice and submit that this bonus should be changed to a range bonus for the reasons listed above.
See, wasn't that easy?
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Illyrinia
Caldari
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:19:00 -
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nothing wrong on how i worded it, forum trolls have low mental capacity, i had to make it so they could understand, i see you understood quite well, point proven.
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Varrakk
Chosen Path
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:24:00 -
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Simple answer really.
NOS is depending on 2 bonuses.
Range and Amount.
Pilgrim only gets one of these, because of the Cloak bonus since its based on your Recon skill.
Other Combat Recons gets a dmg bonus from Recon skill, while Curse receives a NOS/Neut amount.
You see the same on Falcon/Rook with the ECM.
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Grimm Myn
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia
nothing wrong on how i worded it, forum trolls have low mental capacity, i had to make it so they could understand, i see you understood quite well, point proven.
considering your question is directed at the CCP Dev's (only they could correctly answer your question) you are therefore directly saying they are forum trolls with a low mental capacity?
heh
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia
ill make it simple *zips up flame suit* why no nos range bonus on pilgrim, when Arazu, rapier get bonus to thier main attribute? *puts flame suit helmet on*
serious question here... curious on wtf is the problem?
Only the devs can answer that, but it's not a bad question at all.
The lack of range bonus is actually one of the biggest problems of the ship currently, imho. It forces it to work in web range, making tracking disruptors (already borderline) utterly useless on it; that close, reducing optimal range doesn't help you, and reducing tracking is also useless since 90% of the time you'll be webbed.
The Pilgrim needs some help, no doubt about it. It's been hit hard by multiple nerfs, and doesn't really work very well (anymore) in the role intended for it (solo scout and hunter).
If it had a nosfe/neut range bonus (even a small one, doesn't have to be as huge as Curse's), things would be different and it might actually be able to make use of the tracking disruptor bonus.
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ISD Valorem
Amarr
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:38:00 -
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2007.12.14 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk
Simple answer really.
NOS is depending on 2 bonuses.
Range and Amount.
Pilgrim only gets one of these, because of the Cloak bonus since its based on your Recon skill.
Other Combat Recons gets a dmg bonus from Recon skill, while Curse receives a NOS/Neut amount.
This is almost correct, both the curse and pilgrim have the same nos/neut amount bonus, as its secondary 'Combat' bonus the curse recieves a range bonus to nos/neuts.
The answer therefore is that the nos/neut bonus for the curse should be treated as one single bonus, and apply that to the pilgrim. The Curse therefore has a 'empty bonus' slot - that could be pretty much anything from a armor resist bonus to a missile damage bonus.
C.
You see the same on Falcon/Rook with the ECM.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Illyrinia
Caldari
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.12.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk
Simple answer really.
NOS is depending on 2 bonuses.
Range and Amount.
Pilgrim only gets one of these, because of the Cloak bonus since its based on your Recon skill.
Other Combat Recons gets a dmg bonus from Recon skill, while Curse receives a NOS/Neut amount.
You see the same on Falcon/Rook with the ECM.
curse gets range AND amount, ALL recons get the 'cloak bonus' DUH, answer isnt that simple... or is it, devs hate amarr, why not remove amarr and only have caldari and gallente...
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Bruce Deorum
Minmatar
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.14 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia
curse gets range AND amount, ALL recons get the 'cloak bonus' DUH, answer isnt that simple... or is it, devs hate amarr, why not remove amarr and only have caldari and gallente...
To keep mentally-low Amarr speced Recon pilots trolling the forums instead of loosing customers 
I am he, the bornless one
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2007.12.14 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia
Originally by: Varrakk
Simple answer really.
NOS is depending on 2 bonuses.
Range and Amount.
Pilgrim only gets one of these, because of the Cloak bonus since its based on your Recon skill.
Other Combat Recons gets a dmg bonus from Recon skill, while Curse receives a NOS/Neut amount.
You see the same on Falcon/Rook with the ECM.
curse gets range AND amount, ALL recons get the 'cloak bonus' DUH, answer isnt that simple... or is it, devs hate amarr, why not remove amarr and only have caldari and gallente...
Ok, now any chance you had of the devs responding is over.
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Madla Mafia
The Dead Man's Hand
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Posted - 2007.12.14 15:34:00 -
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Why does the Pilgrim not have nos and neut range bonus?
Because CCP hates Amarr. You are right, ALL the other races have range bonus on all their recons, but no, not Amarr. Booo!!!
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.14 15:49:00 -
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Instead of a real fix, after the nos nerf they simply gave the Pilgrim 100 more pg. Heh. Well whoop dee freakin doo. Now you gotta fit an injector, don't have the cargo bay to carry very many 800s, and that injector that you now have to fit for a tank makes it so you can only use a single mid for a TD.
Then they go and nerf TDs... double you tee eff.
Just swap the bonus from nos/neut strength to range ffs ccp and we'd have a ship worth flying.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.14 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 14/12/2007 15:50:16
Originally by: Kruel
Just swap the bonus from nos/neut strength to range ffs ccp and we'd have a ship worth flying.
this.
edit: oh and increase cap by 10 to 20% plz.
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