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Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:48:00 - [211] Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 30/01/2008 19:51:58 i would support this idea if they would be more support oriented. for example using the dominix as base ship, removing all its damage bonus and give it command bonus as well as bonus to t2 logistics and ew drones. for amarr it could be a mix of command bonus and remote rep bonus. caldari: shield transfer & command boni minmatar: dont know ^^ your proposed bonus like 5% cap recharge and signature reduction would make titans obsolete. a second aspect is, that all the gallente warfare links and boni have to be reviewed. they are barely used, they have almost no effect and are by far the worst of all. no one bothers to train for them. imo info warfare links should be scraped. new warfare links could be: warfare links for more damage (drone, missile, turret) or warfare links for drone stuff (speed, hp, damage/repair amount)). these ships should not be able to do any damage at all and they should have lots of prerequisite skills (Logistics V, BS V, CS IV). they would not make logistics and command ships obsolete because: - logistics are much faster to train for and used on alts most time... they will still be used. - command ships are being used as mission running ships & gank ships a lot snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.01 00:33:00 - [212] Sorry folks i have been very buissy at work and have not had the time to work on the concepts. I will be looking into what people have suggested and trying to get them into working concepts.
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:28:00 - [213] bump I will have new versions of the ships up soon. Gonna probabaly remove the second class of ships because they two versions are rapidly becoming far too similar in spec and capabilities.
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:39:00 - [214] AMARR Name: Requiem Hull: Abaddon Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Carthum Conglomerate Carthum ships are the very embodiment of the Amarrian warfare philosophy. Possessing sturdy armor and advanced weapons systems, they provide a nice mix of offense and defense. On the other hand, their electronics and shield systems tend to be rather limited. Amarr Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Energy Turret damage per level, 5% bonus armor Resistances per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Capacitor Recharge Rate per level, 5% bonus to Large Energy Turret capacitor cost per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness Fitting slots: 8/4/8/2 Power Grid: 20500 CPU: 530 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 6850 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8750 Armor Resistances: 60/35/37.5/35 Hull HP: 8000 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 75m^3s Drone Bandwidth: 75 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6375 Capacitor Recharge: 1,250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 80km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Radar 22 Signature Radius: 480m Scanner Resolution: 85 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Fusion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Amarr Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Amarr Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Amarr Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Oblivion Hull: Abaddon Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Khanid Innovations In addition to robust electronics systems, the Khanid Kingdom's ships possess advanced armor alloys capable of withstanding a great deal of punishment. Generally eschewing the use of turrets, they tend to gear their vessels more towards close-range missile combat. Amarr Battleship Bonus: 5% bonus to Torpedo velocity per level, 5% bonus to armor Resistances per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Capacitor Recharge Rate per level, 3% bonus to effectiveness of Armored Warfare Links module per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously Fitting slots: 8/5/7/2 Power Grid: 19500 CPU: 530 Hard points: 0 Turret/6 Launcher Shield HP: 7350 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8150 Armor Resistances: 60/20/25/35s Hull HP: 8000 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3s Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6375 Capacitor Recharge: 1,250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 80km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Radar 22 Signature Radius: 480m Scanner Resolution: 85 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Fusion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Amarr Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Amarr Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Amarr Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Armored Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:41:00 - [215] CALDARI Name: Tsunami Hull: Rokh Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Kaalakiota As befits one of the largest weapons manufacturers in the known world, Kaalakiota's ships are very combat focused. Favoring the traditional Caldari combat strategy, they are designed around a substantial number of weapons systems, especially missile launchers. However, they have rather weak armor and structure, relying more on shields for protection. Cladari Battleship Bonus: 5% bonus to Missile Launcher explosion velocity per lever, 5% bonus to shield Resistances per skill level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Shield Hit Points per level, 5% bonus to Missile velocity per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness Fitting slots: 8/7/5/2 Power Grid: 13500 CPU: 750 Hard points: 0 Turret/6 Launcher Shield HP: 9000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/55/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00 Armor HP: 6500 Armor Resistances: 60/10/25/45 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 50m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 50 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 90km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Gravometric 24 Signature Radius: 510m Scanner Resolution: 75 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Magpulse 7 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Caldari Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Caldari Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Caldari Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Bastion Hull: Rohk Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Ishukone Most of the recent designs off their assembly line have provided for a combination that the Ishukone name is becoming known for: great long-range capabilities and shield systems unmatched anywhere else. Caldari Battleship Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range per level, 5% bonus to shield Resistances per skill level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Shield Hit Points per level, 3% bonus to Siege Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously Fitting slots: 8/6/6/2 Power Grid: 14700 CPU: 750 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 9000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/55/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00 Armor HP: 6750 Armor Resistances: 60/10/25/45 Hull HP: 7250 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 50m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 50 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 90km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Gravometric 24 Signature Radius: 510m Scanner Resolution: 75 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Magpulse 7 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Caldari Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Caldari Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Caldari Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Siege Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:42:00 - [216] GALLENTE Name: Valkyrie Hull: Hyperion Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Duvolle Labs Duvolle Labs manufactures sturdy ships with a good mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. Since the company is one of New Eden's foremost manufacturers of particle blasters, its ships tend to favor turrets and thus have somewhat higher power output than normal. Gallente Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Hybrid Turrets damage per level, 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Armor Hit Points per level, 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret falloff per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness Fitting slots: 8/5/7/2 Power Grid: 15450 CPU: 570 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 7000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8350 Armor Resistances: 60/10/50/47.5 Hull HP: 8650 Velocity: 130m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 7200 Capacitor Recharge: 1500.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 65km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Magnometric 23 Signature Radius: 495m Scanner Resolution: 110 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Ion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Gallente Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Gallente Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Gallente Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Artimus Hull: Hyperion Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: CreoDron As the largest drone developer and manufacturer in space, CreoDron has a vested interest in drone carriers. While sacrificing relatively little in the way of defensive capability, the Artimus can chew its way through surprisingly strong opponents - provided, of course, that the pilot uses top-of-the-line CreoDron drones. Gallente Battleship Bonus: 10% bonus to drone Hit Points and Damage per level, 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Armor Hit Points per level, 3% bonus to Information Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously Fitting slots: 8/6/6/2 Power Grid: 14150 CPU: 570 Hard points: 5 Turret/2 Launcher Shield HP: 7000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8500 Armor Resistances: 60/10/50/47.5 Hull HP: 8500 Velocity: 130m/s Drone Bay: 125m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 125 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 7200 Capacitor Recharge: 1500.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 65km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Magnometric 23 Signature Radius: 495m Scanner Resolution: 110 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Ion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Gallente Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Gallente Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Gallente Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Information Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:44:00 - [217] MINMATAR Name: Conflagration Hull: Maelstrom Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Boundless Creations Boundless Creation's ships are based on the Brutor tribe's philosophy of warfare: simply fit as much firepower onto your ship as possible. Defense systems and electronics arrays therefore tend to take a back seat to sheer annihilative potential. Minmatar Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Projectile Turret arte of fire per level, 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Signature Radius reduction per level, 5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret falloff per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness Fitting slots: 8/6/6/2 Power Grid: 18500 CPU: 610 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 7500 Shield Resistances: 15/60/40/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8000 Armor Resistances: 70/10/25/35 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 115m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 550 m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 75km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Ladar 21 Signature Radius: 470m Scanner Resolution: 90 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Plasma 9 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Minmatar Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Minmatar Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Minmatar Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Electronics V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Halberd Hull: Maelstrom Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Core Complexion Core Complexion's ships are unusual in that they favor electronics and defense over the "lots of guns" approach traditionally favored by the Minmatar. Minmatar Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Projectile Turret arte of fire per level, 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Signature Radius reduction per level, 3% bonus to Skirmish Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously Fitting slots: 8/7/5/2 Power Grid: 18100 CPU: 610 Hard points: 5 Turret/2 Launcher Shield HP: 8150 Shield Resistances: 15/60/40/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 7350 Armor Resistances: 70/10/25/35 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 115m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 550 m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 75km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Ladar 21 Signature Radius: 470m Scanner Resolution: 90 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Plasma 9 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Minmatar Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Minmatar Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Minmatar Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Skirmish Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:53:00 - [218] The Cap and Signature bonus would not make Titans obsolete. Titans can do a whole lot more when it comes to eve then just command and control. Also they have a bigger bonus to their respective bonus to cap recharge and signature radius (7.5% instead of 5%). I am really starting to hit a road block with unique ideas for the ships, i would like them to stay in the command and control area of design and not venture too much into the logistical end of the spectrum. I keep running into a problem with trying to combine the ships so that their is only one Flagship per race. The issue being is that the ships are to unique in their bonuses and design that it becomes very hard to ballance them in their group and outside of the group. They either become over nerfed or way over powered.
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys Dread Sovereign	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:01:00 - [219] lookin good Balor, i agree that its tough to try and combine the two to make just one flagship for each race, either its uber nerfed or uber powered, the search for the delicate balance is on, and bump back to the top Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway???? Support Flagships
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.09 19:53:00 - [220] Bump Looking for comments.

Soltueur Gallente Joint Strike Squad	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:34:00 - [221] Well dont know if this has been asked before, but why can the theater command ship only use 3 active warfare links(as role bonus)? I know that each type(armor,shield,speed,ecm?) only has 3 diffrent mods and that this could be the reason. But this makes them only just as good as the normal command ships(okey they can probly tank more and do more dmg). But warfare link wise they will be the same as the command ship. Why not give em 4/5/6? This would kinda point them into useing the warfare links more often as you can boost allot. Or would this totaly screw it up? ---------------------------------------- "It is only by fate that any life ends, and only by chance that it is yours... not mine" New vid
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:32:00 - [222] Yah, you are right about the flagship having the same command ability as the Command ships, ill try and come up with a clever way to deal with this.
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.13 22:40:00 - [223] bump
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.14 16:54:00 - [224] Interesting proposals.....I can see myself training for the Theater Command ship. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Gekigami	Posted - 2008.02.14 18:58:00 - [225] Main Gun ship. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=691408
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys Dread Sovereign	Posted - 2008.02.18 17:39:00 - [226] start of the week bump Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway???? Support Flagships
Vordek Rei	Posted - 2008.02.18 22:56:00 - [227] A Free bumb for this Brilliant Idea - perhaps now I can use my soon to be 5 million SP in leadership
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.20 03:44:00 - [228] I hope to have some concepts soon. Ill try to have them up for tomorrow.
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:16:00 - [229] AMARR Name: Requiem Hull: Abaddon Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Carthum Conglomerate Carthum ships are the very embodiment of the Amarrian warfare philosophy. Possessing sturdy armor and advanced weapons systems, they provide a nice mix of offense and defense. On the other hand, their electronics and shield systems tend to be rather limited. Amarr Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Energy Turret damage per level, 5% bonus armor Resistances per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Capacitor Recharge Rate per level, 5% bonus to Large Energy Turret capacitor cost per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness, activate 2 warfare links simultaniously Fitting slots: 8 high / 4 mid / 8 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 20500 CPU: 530 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 6850 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8750 Armor Resistances: 60/35/37.5/35 Hull HP: 8000 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 75m^3s Drone Bandwidth: 75 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6375 Capacitor Recharge: 1,250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 80km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Radar 22 Signature Radius: 480m Scanner Resolution: 85 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Fusion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Amarr Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Amarr Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Amarr Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Oblivion Hull: Abaddon Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Khanid Innovations In addition to robust electronics systems, the Khanid Kingdom's ships possess advanced armor alloys capable of withstanding a great deal of punishment. Generally eschewing the use of turrets, they tend to gear their vessels more towards close-range missile combat. Amarr Battleship Bonus: 5% bonus to Torpedo velocity per level, 5% bonus to armor Resistances per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Capacitor Recharge Rate per level, 3% bonus to effectiveness of Armored Warfare Links module per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously, Warfare Links effect the entire system that the Flagship is in Fitting slots: 8 high / 5 mid / 7 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 19500 CPU: 530 Hard points: 0 Turret/6 Launcher Shield HP: 7350 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8150 Armor Resistances: 60/20/25/35s Hull HP: 8000 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3s Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6375 Capacitor Recharge: 1,250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 80km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Radar 22 Signature Radius: 480m Scanner Resolution: 85 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Fusion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Amarr Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Amarr Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Amarr Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Armored Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:17:00 - [230] CALDARI Name: Tsunami Hull: Rokh Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Kaalakiota As befits one of the largest weapons manufacturers in the known world, Kaalakiota's ships are very combat focused. Favoring the traditional Caldari combat strategy, they are designed around a substantial number of weapons systems, especially missile launchers. However, they have rather weak armor and structure, relying more on shields for protection. Cladari Battleship Bonus: 5% bonus to Missile Launcher explosion velocity per lever, 5% bonus to shield Resistances per skill level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Shield Hit Points per level, 5% bonus to Missile velocity per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness, activate 2 warfare links simultaniously Fitting slots: 8 high / 7 mid / 5 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 13500 CPU: 750 Hard points: 0 Turret/6 Launcher Shield HP: 9000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/55/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00 Armor HP: 6500 Armor Resistances: 60/10/25/45 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 50m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 50 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 90km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Gravometric 24 Signature Radius: 510m Scanner Resolution: 75 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Magpulse 7 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Caldari Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Caldari Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Caldari Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Bastion Hull: Rohk Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Ishukone Most of the recent designs off their assembly line have provided for a combination that the Ishukone name is becoming known for: great long-range capabilities and shield systems unmatched anywhere else. Caldari Battleship Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range per level, 5% bonus to shield Resistances per skill level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Shield Hit Points per level, 3% bonus to Siege Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously, Warfare Links effect the entire system that the Flagship is in Fitting slots: 8 high / 6 mid / 6 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 14700 CPU: 750 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 9000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/55/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00 Armor HP: 6750 Armor Resistances: 60/10/25/45 Hull HP: 7250 Velocity: 110m/s Drone Bay: 50m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 50 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 625m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 90km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Gravometric 24 Signature Radius: 510m Scanner Resolution: 75 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Magpulse 7 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Caldari Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Caldari Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Caldari Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Siege Warfare Link V

Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:18:00 - [231] GALLENTE Name: Valkyrie Hull: Hyperion Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Duvolle Labs Duvolle Labs manufactures sturdy ships with a good mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. Since the company is one of New Eden's foremost manufacturers of particle blasters, its ships tend to favor turrets and thus have somewhat higher power output than normal. Gallente Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Hybrid Turrets damage per level, 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Armor Hit Points per level, 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret falloff per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness, activate 2 warfare links simultaniously Fitting slots: 8 high / 5 mid / 7 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 15450 CPU: 570 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 7000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8350 Armor Resistances: 60/10/50/47.5 Hull HP: 8650 Velocity: 130m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 7200 Capacitor Recharge: 1500.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 65km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Magnometric 23 Signature Radius: 495m Scanner Resolution: 110 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Ion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Gallente Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Gallente Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Gallente Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Targeting V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Artimus Hull: Hyperion Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: CreoDron As the largest drone developer and manufacturer in space, CreoDron has a vested interest in drone carriers. While sacrificing relatively little in the way of defensive capability, the Artimus can chew its way through surprisingly strong opponents - provided, of course, that the pilot uses top-of-the-line CreoDron drones. Gallente Battleship Bonus: 10% bonus to drone Hit Points and Damage per level, 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's maximum Armor Hit Points per level, 3% bonus to Information Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously, Warfare Links effect the entire system that the Flagship is in Fitting slots: 8 high / 6 mid / 6 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 14150 CPU: 570 Hard points: 5 Turret/2 Launcher Shield HP: 7000 Shield Resistances: 0/60/40/20 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8500 Armor Resistances: 60/10/50/47.5 Hull HP: 8500 Velocity: 130m/s Drone Bay: 125m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 125 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 675m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 7200 Capacitor Recharge: 1500.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 65km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Magnometric 23 Signature Radius: 495m Scanner Resolution: 110 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Ion 8 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Gallente Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Gallente Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Gallente Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Information Warfare Link V
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:20:00 - [232] MINMATAR Name: Conflagration Hull: Maelstrom Role: Frontline Command Ship Developer: Boundless Creations Boundless Creation's ships are based on the Brutor tribe's philosophy of warfare: simply fit as much firepower onto your ship as possible. Defense systems and electronics arrays therefore tend to take a back seat to sheer annihilative potential. Minmatar Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Projectile Turret arte of fire per level, 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Signature Radius reduction per level, 5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret falloff per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, 10% bonus to Warfare Link module effectiveness, activate 2 warfare links simultaniously Fitting slots: 8 high / 6 mid / 6 low / 2 rig Power Grid: 18500 CPU: 610 Hard points: 7 Turret/0 Launcher Shield HP: 7500 Shield Resistances: 15/60/40/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 8000 Armor Resistances: 70/10/25/35 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 115m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 550 m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 75km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Ladar 21 Signature Radius: 470m Scanner Resolution: 90 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Plasma 9 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Minmatar Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Minmatar Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Minmatar Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Command Ship IV -> Heavy Assault Ship IV --> Assault Ship IV --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V --> Electronics V -> Gunnery III --> Weapon Upgrade V Name: Halberd Hull: Maelstrom Role: Theater Command Ship Developer: Core Complexion Core Complexion's ships are unusual in that they favor electronics and defense over the "lots of guns" approach traditionally favored by the Minmatar. Minmatar Battleship Bonus: 3% bonus to Large Projectile Turret arte of fire per level, 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount per level Flagship Bonus: 5% bonus to fleet member's Signature Radius reduction per level, 3% bonus to Skirmish Warfare Link module effectiveness per level Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU cost for warfare link modules, activate 3 warfare link modules simultaneously, Warfare Links effect the entire system that the Flagship is in Fitting slots: 8 High / 7 Mid / 5 Low / 2 rig Power Grid: 18100 CPU: 610 Hard points: 5 Turret/2 Launcher Shield HP: 8150 Shield Resistances: 15/60/40/32.5 Shield Recharge: 2500.00sec Armor HP: 7350 Armor Resistances: 70/10/25/35 Hull HP: 7500 Velocity: 115m/s Drone Bay: 100m^3 Drone Bandwidth: 100 MgBits/sec Cargo Bay: 550 m^3 Capacitor Capacity: 6000 Capacitor Recharge: 1250.00sec Maximum Targeting Range: 75km Maximum Lock: 6 Sensor Strength: Ladar 21 Signature Radius: 470m Scanner Resolution: 90 Inertial Modifier: 0.155 Propulsion Strength: Plasma 9 Required Skills Primary Skill Required > Flagship I -> Command Ship IV --> Battlecruiser V --> Spaceship Command IV -> Fleet Command III --> Wing Command V ---> Leadership V -> Warfare Link Specialization IV Secondary Skill Required > Minmatar Battleship V -> Spaceship Command IV -> Minmatar Cruiser V --> Spaceship Command III ---> Minmatar Frigate V ---> Spaceship Command I Tertiary Skill Required > Logistics V -> Signature Analysis V --> Electronics V --> Mechanics V --> Engineering V -> Long Range Targeting V --> Skirmish Warfare Link V
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys Dread Sovereign	Posted - 2008.02.21 16:18:00 - [233] Edited by: Korran Minare on 21/02/2008 16:18:20 ohhhhhhhhhh, new versions look sexy, btw i still have a space picked out for the Artimus Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway???? Support Flagships
Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Caldari Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.21 23:34:00 - [234] I just found this topic through someone else's sig - one of those rare articles that I'll actually read from beginning to end, frankly I love the concept - I once floated an idea briefly of a long range tactical assault boat - which seems to pretty much coincide with the theater option thats posited here, I'd love to see these in game (if only because I massively love the Rokh) though frankly I'd prefer to see the missile option on the Theater, and Blasters on the frontline, perhaps with a range bonus for torps? (I realise CCP nerfed torps to become the close range partner to cruise, ala heavy assault's//heavies, but its an option never the less) Emrys. Your sig is too big. Send an e-mail to mods@ccpgames.com when it meets the forum signature guidelines.
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.22 03:32:00 - [235] I might consider making the change that you suggested, it is a rather simple operation, swap roles and you are done. I'm a little worried that the Theater Command Ship might be a bit too powerful. Might have to nerf it at some point.
Nova Fox	Posted - 2008.02.22 07:07:00 - [236] Your ships are too traditional to much of thier roles are already existent ingame or it means to replace currently existing roles of smaller prequesitit ships. We dont need another assault frigate.
Kirgan	Posted - 2008.02.22 14:21:00 - [237] This is one of the best ideas I have seen as of yet. My 2 cents on the subject; To keep these from becoming used for unintended purposes and getting them nerfed as a result; they could be short range damage only. New weapons (modules/skills) could be added (i.e.: Tactical Torpedoes/Missiles /Defensive Charges /Strike Drones) with a 25km max range at level 5 skill, also increase the tank and support roles. They would be devastating close range but useless solo at medium to long range, yet able to withstand an intense attack for a decent length of time. More skills to train for new weapons and fittings could make them further specialized. A static speed as well (no modules/rigs can change it) to further limit it's offensive capabilities.
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2008.02.22 15:35:00 - [238] Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril I actually agree with the warfare link module idea. I think it would make them yet more specialised. Maybe have the following as the Flagship bonuses for each race. Amarr - +20% to Armoured Warfare skill bonus per level. 5% bonus to Armoured Warfare link modules per level. Caldari - +20% to Siege Warfare skill bonus per level. 5% bonus to Siege Warfare link modules per level. Gellente - +20% to Information Warfare skill bonus per level. 5% bonus to Information Warfare link modules per level. Minmatar - +20% to Skirmish Warfare skill bonus per level. 5% bonus to Skirmish Warfare link modules per level. If you had the skill Flagship V (I think a better name than Heavy Command Ship V). You would be getting double the bonus for your racial warfare skill and a 25% bonus to your racial warfare link modules, making your race now come into play a little more as well. What do people think. Interesting change? As a gallente get porkes bonus no thx change the command ships one to this proposed bonuses as well pls finally the gall comand ships would be worth flying again
PtolemaiosPlato Solomon Gallente Trinitas Inc. Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2008.02.22 17:09:00 - [239] I like the idea, too. Massive defense. But maybe lesser offensive capabilities. But giving some advantages to the fleet associated with it (some attribute enhancements). A flagship should be at risk when being alone, but inside a fleet, it is well protected and enhances the combat attributes. A flagship should be richly decorated and be more a presentation ship than a purely functional common fleet ship. It resembles the high command of a fleet. These are just my ideas. Greetings, thanks for reading, Sven Location: 18¦ 0'33.80"N - 76¦46'52.66"W - Elevation 344 ft Your sig lacks visible EVE-related content. Email us at mods@ccpgames.com for more information -HornFrog
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.22 21:00:00 - [240] The command bonuses are the way they are because the Flagships was intended originaly to be an upgrade for the Command Ships. They have since changed a lot from that, however. As far as the command and warfare link modules for Gallente are concerned , they do have their place in combat, granted they are not nearly as univrsely good as some of the other races warfare links but they are good for a lot in combat. Making ECM and other electronic warfare modules more effective and boosting the ability of ships in the fleet to lock and engage at greater range. Ill take the Gallente Flagship in a fleet of sniper ships any day.

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