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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:25:00 -
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Not really but its still entertaining when your bored.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:39:00 -
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Am I the only one that LOVES oblivion? Then again I never played morrowind, and most of you who seem to not like it compare it to morrowind.
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ductoris on 12/12/2007 21:52:41
Originally by: Reiisha
The Orange Box. Portal is the best thing to happen for gaming in years. It's just that cool. Ep2 and TF2 are just extra's as far as i'm concerned - however good they might be.
I should lock this thread and consider it "done".
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Khemical
Gallente Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2007.12.13 00:24:00 -
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My list of gaming goodness:
Mass Effect Call of Duty 4 Assassin's Creed The Orange Box (TF2!) Bioshock The Darkness Hellgate: London Halo 3
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me bored
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Posted - 2007.12.13 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari . Team Fortress 2 medieval 2: total war Portal Supreme Commander
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.12.13 00:51:00 -
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Not sure why everyone lists Supreme Commander. Maybe I am missing something but I found it merely ok. I enjoyed it but it is not all that. Single player is fine but nothing remarkable and multiplayer (for me at least) is generally against people who have sniffed out some ideal build order and zerg you. Not really fun. Nothing in the way of strategy.
World in Conflict far surpasses Supreme Commander in my book (although different enough since no base building to not be perfectly comparable).
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.13 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Dawn of War - looking at that to buy. Problem is - do I need to know all the Warhammer back story to understand it or can a chap that knows the general outline and some fuzzy bits play and enjoy it?
Nah, the single player campaigns tell you all you'll ever need to know. Besides, the WH40k back-story can be reasonably summed up as "there are some guys, and they all kill each other". I mean there are the ancient technological guys, and the genocidal robot guys, and the green barbarian guys, and the superhuman religious guys, but they're all basically just guys.
Good game though. ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.12.13 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 12/12/2007 17:12:23 ok... lemme get this straight... try to name some games that are less demanding than crysis, or telling from the screenshots, cod 4.
but speaking of cod... i NEVER played a single part of it... if i would say, part 4 looks to hefty for my rig (eyecandywise), which part would be the best alternative, and why? if part 4 is simply the best, then tell me why? (tell me its got real gameplay reasons )
farcry for Ç 10, you think its worth it? only played the demo back then.. i think the free promo version is no longer available.
darwinia looks promising.
what about the game where you get to play the evil mastermind? what was it called? was it good?
oh and i got dawn of war. i think its a fun way of RTS.
edit: about team fortress 2: is that an orange box thing, or do i get it via steam after i purchase hl2? or do i get hl2 with orange box? the ways of steam can be clouded and mysterious sometimes.
stalker: oh yeah, i nearly forgot... thanks for reminding me, that one should be worth a try..
how about vietcong2? i loved the first part, and the second one is like Ç2 around here. but i dont want to buy it if it will dissapoint me, because it was so great,i want to keep it in loving memory.
Crysis is not that great as far as I'm concerned, sure its nice to see grass sway and hearing "MAXIMUM STRENGTH" never gets old but the mp is very forgettable and that long term play value is what I value more.
I had no experience with Cod franchise either, the premise is the single player has alot of extremely cinematic scripting and pretty robust gunplay that relies on using the guns iron sights--encourages careful reloading, bursting and is relatively tactical. I've ran cod4 on a few of my older cards and it scaled reasonably well-- had to use lower resolution and less detailing but still very playable and the fun was mostly intact.
You can try the demo if you aren't convinced, the multiplayer relies on building custom classes choosing from 3 fallout style perks or unique attributes and a small arsenal of weapons and attachments--its and FPS but rewards you like an RPG. Very easy to get into but the bolt action weapons and more sensitive kit is of course more skill based and naturally, more satisfying. It's basically an extremely well polished game and although the single player is close to 10-15 hours, it moves at a nice pace and never feels too long.
Another good FPS is FEAR--again the single player tries to combine elements of Silent Hill with Doom and its a mixed bag, the multiplayer however is extremely frantic, free and will likely hold your interest for a month or two if not more--weapon balance is a bit off but for a free TDM fps, its a blast with awesome physics engine--it may be a good multiplayer alternative to far cry
As far orange box, it comes bundled with HL2, TF2 and Portal--you can buy them separately as portal is stupidly short and feels more like a wii minigame on pc than it does a full fledged game--I'd suggest you just buy tf2 but as you can imagine from what I've written so far, that's not surprising.
I'm sure you can find some more insight on gametrailers.com or gamespot video reviews of some of these games in motion. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.12.13 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 13/12/2007 03:37:11
Originally by: Last Wolf Am I the only one that LOVES oblivion? Then again I never played morrowind, and most of you who seem to not like it compare it to morrowind.
I was really let down by oblivion. They made so many improvements to the game which were fantastic, but the tasks you get assigned by the factions are so samey and boring. I felt like it was just rinse and repeat for about 40 hours really.
I think the part I most enjoyed, was breaking into someone's house for laughs, and being sucked into that painting. I can't even remember where it was but that is what I want out of an elder scrolls game. Something that I completely don't expect. That was why Morrowind was so great. _
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Ulendar
M34t p0p s1ckle Manufacturing Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.13 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 Nah, the single player campaigns tell you all you'll ever need to know. Besides, the WH40k back-story can be reasonably summed up as "there are some guys, and they all kill each other". I mean there are the ancient technological guys, and the genocidal robot guys, and the green barbarian guys, and the superhuman religious guys, but they're all basically just guys.
Good game though.
BLASPHEMY! Err .. I think the 40k background is easily the most intriguing Sci-Fi fluff ever (currently reading the Horus Heresy series of books..) .. agree on the game tho, DoW is pretty ace. __________
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Wild Rho
Amarr GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:28:00 -
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Apart from Supreme Commander and Oblivion there hasn't really been any new games that have really got my interest, most just don't seem to live up to their hype.
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ry ry
StateCorp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 13/12/2007 13:37:53
Originally by: Avery Fatwallet as i already stated once, im intentionally a bit behind the technological advancement of computers. it saves me a lot of money
i recently upgraded a little bit and now im wondering... which games do you think did i miss 2005/2006 (and maybe a bit of 2007)?
to help you determine my taste: i think even old system shock 1 > every part of halo every need for speed after part 3 sucked donkey balls or to make it short: gameplay/fun > looks.
so far i got oblivion and HL2 on the list.
im looking forward to your suggestions, help me waste my vacation real good
the problem is, on one hand you have a period of a couple of years when there were maybe a dozen really good games released, verses every other game ever made.
there are only ever a few good games a year, even back in the hayclon days of the Amiga/speccy*/whatever.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 14:14:05
Originally by: Erotic Irony Crysis is not that great as far as I'm concerned, sure its nice to see grass sway and hearing "MAXIMUM STRENGTH" never gets old but the mp is very forgettable and that long term play value is what I value more.
I had no experience with Cod franchise either, the premise is the single player has alot of extremely cinematic scripting and pretty robust gunplay that relies on using the guns iron sights--encourages careful reloading, bursting and is relatively tactical. I've ran cod4 on a few of my older cards and it scaled reasonably well-- had to use lower resolution and less detailing but still very playable and the fun was mostly intact.
You can try the demo if you aren't convinced, the multiplayer relies on building custom classes choosing from 3 fallout style perks or unique attributes and a small arsenal of weapons and attachments--its and FPS but rewards you like an RPG. Very easy to get into but the bolt action weapons and more sensitive kit is of course more skill based and naturally, more satisfying. It's basically an extremely well polished game and although the single player is close to 10-15 hours, it moves at a nice pace and never feels too long.
Another good FPS is FEAR--again the single player tries to combine elements of Silent Hill with Doom and its a mixed bag, the multiplayer however is extremely frantic, free and will likely hold your interest for a month or two if not more--weapon balance is a bit off but for a free TDM fps, its a blast with awesome physics engine--it may be a good multiplayer alternative to far cry
As far orange box, it comes bundled with HL2, TF2 and Portal--you can buy them separately as portal is stupidly short and feels more like a wii minigame on pc than it does a full fledged game--I'd suggest you just buy tf2 but as you can imagine from what I've written so far, that's not surprising.
I'm sure you can find some more insight on gametrailers.com or gamespot video reviews of some of these games in motion.
thanks for your lengthy explanation, it helped a lot.
i think i agree about crysis, i have only played the demo so far, but it just rieks of "were burnin our fun ideas faster than you can say 'wheres my gameplay'"
cod just keeps sounding interesting altough 10-15 hours singleplayer IS TOO DAMN SHORT. when you play a REALLY good game, everything under 30 days PURE gametime feels like a ripoff maybe im a lil extreme, but thats how i feel.
orange box: yeah i know, TF2 is in there. but if i buy plain HL2 : doeth it giveth TF2 too?
i think fear is just not my kind of bag. imho doom3 for instance was a REALLY REALLY bad game, compared to the hype it got. it was -maybe- a funny semi-horror-c-movie, but thats it. normally "horror" style games just mean "scripted spawns in an area you cleared 10 seconds ago" (which kills every bit of tactical playstyle) borked gamma settings (kills immersion, but at least, if everythings black, the older gpus can render it) and completey unmotivated pieces of gore and random shockers. you can tell im no fan of the genre
o0oo and .... DEFCON kicks ass. altough its just a next generation real time version of "nuclear war" without the "funny pieces". (you can adjust the game mode to fixed units or buyable units.)
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 13/12/2007 14:32:00
Hmmm...
STALKER (great free-roaming singleplayer with amazing atmosphere. also has actual difficulty when you set it on hardest, at least until you get the G36 that is)
X3: Reunion (nice freeform FS/RTS hybrid with station building and economies and whatnot, plus epic battles)
Half Life 2: Episode Two (extremely well-polished game with characters that act as if they were real)
Supreme Commander (marmite RTS, either love it or hate it - has a lot more depth to it than DoW/CoH/C&C3 etc, but has a steep learning curve and I don't like some of the unit looks, but otherwise is a great game imo, best played Multiplayer)
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (The perfect WW2 combat flightsim, VERY realistic, graphically beautiful even by today's standards and intense fun)
Not been many other games out that I've really thought were amazing. -----
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 13/12/2007 14:49:36
Originally by: Avery Fatwallet orange box: yeah i know, TF2 is in there. but if i buy plain HL2 : doeth it giveth TF2 too?
No, buying standalone HL2 won't net you TF2--the latter only comes bundled in orange box or has to be bought seperately on steam. Wish it had more maps though. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 15:05:16 thanks for all your suggestions... but,
no more RTS, please. ive never been a huge fan of the genre, and unless something REALLY RELLY new happens, i wont touch it anymore. No matter what the packaging says, ive yet to meet a RTS game, that doesnt require me to micromanage a bigger army. just because the arty tanks move faster than the close range tanks it doesnt mean they should actually fight in the first line ... and so on. you know what i mean.
furthermore, most RTS games i played end up in a two-different-unit-spam sooner or later, regardless of the tactical options you had throughout the game.
anyways... so far on the list:
stalker orange box (i WANT tf2 :P) and oblivion
i think ill drop CoD for now, since i dont want FPS overkill (orange box is enuff FPS for the holidays).
X3 i own already, defcon also.
sturmovik might be worth a look, i still have ye olde il-2 sturmovik here, and it was great fun dogfighting 30 people.
what i would be seeking now, would something with a "speedy" feel. a race game, a flight sim, anything.
i got trackmania sunrise here, which i luv bigtime, even if it is starforce infested. but this very starforce as well as the fixed cars (which is great for MP) along with a missing collision detection (even only as option) turns me down, whenever i ask myself if i should intall it.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.12.13 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/12/2007 16:51:10
Originally by: Avery Fatwallet no more RTS, please. ive never been a huge fan of the genre, and unless something REALLY RELLY new happens, i wont touch it anymore. No matter what the packaging says, ive yet to meet a RTS game, that doesnt require me to micromanage a bigger army. just because the arty tanks move faster than the close range tanks it doesnt mean they should actually fight in the first line ... and so on. you know what i mean.
furthermore, most RTS games i played end up in a two-different-unit-spam sooner or later, regardless of the tactical options you had throughout the game.
It sounds like you've never played anything but Starcraft or Command and Conquer (or Insert-Other-Generic-RTS-Here)... try something actually good, like Homeworld.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.12.13 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 15:44:36 Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 15:43:28 thanks for all your suggestions... but,
no more RTS, please. ive never been a huge fan of the genre, and unless something REALLY RELLY new happens, i wont touch it anymore. No matter what the packaging says, ive yet to meet a RTS game, that doesnt require me to micromanage a bigger army. just because the arty tanks move faster than the close range tanks it doesnt mean they should actually fight in the first line ... and so on. you know what i mean.
Do yourself a favor and give World in Conflict a spin. It is something REALLY REALLY new. While the gameplay is familiar RTS how it goes about doing its thing is unique and refreshing and above all FUN! Ordinarily I despise multiplayer RTS because there is nothing fun about it. It is who can build their base fastest and out zerg the other guy. Rarely is much startegy involved. WiC is a whole other deal. The Multi is an absolute blast.
Do yourself a favor and download the World in Conflict Demo. Well worth the look (pretty sure it is a multiplayer only demo...definitely do the tutorial).
For fun here is a video of WiC gameplay. Yes it really looks THAT good (even without a super PC).
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 17:02:40
Originally by: Dark Shikari It sounds like you've never played anything but Starcraft or Command and Conquer (or Insert-Other-Generic-RTS-Here)... try something actually good, like Homeworld.
well, ive been around RTS since dune2, and everything that came after it looked like a generic RTS rip-off with the optional bells and whistles.
homeworld was slightly different. ive played it up and down.
and thanks, jonah, this sounds good. ill have a look at the demo and decide later if its worth my money.
edit; let me just say, i love this thread so much. i can go around and bash games as i like it, because hey, this thread is about MY opinion and MY way of getting satisfaction.
thanks to all of you for your patience, time and input!
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Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.12.13 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Rialtor on 13/12/2007 17:21:50
Originally by: Neon Genesis Edited by: Neon Genesis on 13/12/2007 03:37:11
Originally by: Last Wolf Am I the only one that LOVES oblivion? Then again I never played morrowind, and most of you who seem to not like it compare it to morrowind.
I was really let down by oblivion. They made so many improvements to the game which were fantastic, but the tasks you get assigned by the factions are so samey and boring. I felt like it was just rinse and repeat for about 40 hours really.
I think the part I most enjoyed, was breaking into someone's house for laughs, and being sucked into that painting. I can't even remember where it was but that is what I want out of an elder scrolls game. Something that I completely don't expect. That was why Morrowind was so great.
I don't know why people are so up in arms about Oblivion. It's such a good game. I don't understand why people would give a good game such flack. So maybe it wasn't better than Morrowind -- personally I just feel it was different. But some see it as strictly worse. However, I can't make any case that would lead me to think that Oblivion was bad. I think it was great, just less great than Morrowind at the time.
I don't know that all the quests were cookie cutter either. Some things just happened to you, like the being bitten by a vampire, the dark brotherhood, etc. I would have like more events like that, but all in all I found it a great game. Amazing voice acting, rare in a game of that nature. Engaging gameplay. And you still have that free roaming spirit of Oblivion.
Would I have liked to see some more to the game? sure, but the problem with a game like Oblivion is that there's so much that can be added to design but there's a limit to budget and time.
I would have liked to have more "gangs" in the game. Possibly horse-based combat. etc.
My major critic is that those oblivion gates should have had a deeper story within each gate so each one feels epic. Not like some kind of grinding quest.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:57:29 Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:56:37 just tell me i can waste hours upon hours on the books i find throughout the land.
mostly im under the impression "walls of text" in videogames arent much more than concept art that didnt make it into the release in a finished form.
i dont know why morrowind was different. it wasnt ecxeptional good writing or anything... but i think in the end i collected every book i could and... read them all.
i even took a a room in my house to arrange them library like
so as stupid as it sounds... its an indicator for me, how much "love" made it into the game.
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:08:00 -
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Horse and me (yes a horse game)
Trinity Corporate Services
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: northwesten Horse and me (yes a horse game)
does it sparkle with the girls?
no really, youre just making fun of me, right.
i meant... harvest moon sounded pretty dumb when you read the description, but its a cool game.
i dunno why, but this is bound to be as stupid as its description, amirite?
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:47:00 -
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Company of Heroes Supreme Commander Half Life 2
Then again I really havent played anything else.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.12.13 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:57:29 Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:56:37 just tell me i can waste hours upon hours on the books i find throughout the land.
mostly im under the impression "walls of text" in videogames arent much more than concept art that didnt make it into the release in a finished form.
i dont know why morrowind was different. it wasnt ecxeptional good writing or anything... but i think in the end i collected every book i could and... read them all.
i even took a a room in my house to arrange them library like
so as stupid as it sounds... its an indicator for me, how much "love" made it into the game.
There are probably over 100 different books in oblivion. Some of them 50-60 "pages" long and have sequels. Some really good (and some really no so good) stories in them. "The Lusty Aragonian Maid" is the best one though.... (Yes, i know i spelled Aragonian wrong... i have no idea how to spell it :P);
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Kvaell
Minmatar Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.14 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:57:29 Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 18:56:37 just tell me i can waste hours upon hours on the books i find throughout the land.
mostly im under the impression "walls of text" in videogames arent much more than concept art that didnt make it into the release in a finished form.
i dont know why morrowind was different. it wasnt ecxeptional good writing or anything... but i think in the end i collected every book i could and... read them all.
i even took a a room in my house to arrange them library like
so as stupid as it sounds... its an indicator for me, how much "love" made it into the game.
Don't worry, my house had an extensive library too. It included non-magic set of all kinds of armour and pretty much all magic items you could get peacefully. A few items of all ingridients was also present on a few tables. And I almost never used potions, so that added two shelves filled with them.
For the topic:
Hearts of Iron 2: Doomsday, is the only "modern" game I really have enjoyed
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Amberly Coteaz
Amarr Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.12.14 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 13/12/2007 17:02:40
Originally by: Dark Shikari It sounds like you've never played anything but Starcraft or Command and Conquer (or Insert-Other-Generic-RTS-Here)... try something actually good, like Homeworld.
well, ive been around RTS since dune2, and everything that came after it looked like a generic RTS rip-off with the optional bells and whistles.
homeworld was slightly different. ive played it up and down.
and thanks, jonah, this sounds good. ill have a look at the demo and decide later if its worth my money.
edit; let me just say, i love this thread so much. i can go around and bash games as i like it, because hey, this thread is about MY opinion and MY way of getting satisfaction.
thanks to all of you for your patience, time and input!
Total Annihilation? My favourite rts of all time probably why I like Supreme Commander so much
I cant give you a game to try but I can give you one to avoid, Neverwinternights 2
Oh and Pee Wees ftw
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ry ry
StateCorp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.14 09:22:00 -
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nwn2 is okay tbh.
what didn't you like about it?
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Itoban Enkim
Amarr Staboholics Anonymous
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Posted - 2007.12.14 09:36:00 -
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The NWN2 campaign is a bit bland at first but gets better later on, the expansion Mask of the Betrayer is easily the best RPG since Planescape: Torment.
Another good recent RPG is The Witcher, its like a Jade Empire that isnt targeted at 12 year olds set in a dark and gritty fantasy world with fallout-like freedom of choices.
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.12.14 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet
Originally by: northwesten Horse and me (yes a horse game)
does it sparkle with the girls?
no really, youre just making fun of me, right.
i meant... harvest moon sounded pretty dumb when you read the description, but its a cool game.
i dunno why, but this is bound to be as stupid as its description, amirite?
what? i don't get what you saying!
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