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Elyssa MacLeod
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:29:00 -
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You can tell Hulkageddons on the way when youre selling loot from a mission and all the passive targetters and smartbombs are selling at 75% or higher of average GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.
Where is your God now carebear? |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:48:00 -
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play sc2, bf3, world of tanks, wow. I have more space likes than you.-á |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
70
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:54:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:I've never had any love for miners as at previous income rates, they all used to be bots, macros or some weirdos operating 20 accounts at once so I wasn't too unhappy whenever one was ganked (although I never did it - only ships I personally suicide-ganked were Tengus). .
Generalities tuen one into a lair. I've been a miner my whole career, during mineral market crashes and high mineral bull markets.. no, I never botted, ran a macro... or used more than 3 accounts at once. Most ganker/griefers demonize their targets to make themselves feel better about being the bully.. but that's just human nature I suppose.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
275
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:55:00 -
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Dont be a miner for a while. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
70
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Posted - 2012.04.15 05:02:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:If you do not know what to do then try to have fun. Take your mining ship and see if you can get through to Jita in a barge or an exhumer. I bet you will not be able to. So get a few barges, they are cheap, and try a few times until you succeed. This should be hilarious.
this is really creative. I like it. you could frap the whole thing.. with the right subtitles could be hilarious. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Kreeia Dgore
EntroPrelatial Industria EntroPraetorian Aegis
5
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Posted - 2012.04.15 05:35:00 -
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Step one: Dock Step two: Go mission running. Step three: Once the prices hit the roof, which they will in a week or 10 days after the inferno is released, sell all ore supply i have for huge profit. Step four: Be rich and dance while laughing like a lunatic on a pile of cash.
I love EVE. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
962
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Posted - 2012.04.15 07:00:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:....
I've never had any love for miners as at previous income rates, they all used to be bots, macros or some weirdos operating 20 accounts at once so I wasn't too unhappy whenever one was ganked (although I never did it - only ships I personally suicide-ganked were Tengus).
With increasing ore/min/ship prices and banned bots there'll be human miners again and it will be more apparent that gankers are biting the hand that feeds them. ...
The average hulk pilot has changed, too. When I started EVE, the hulk was considered the end-game of any industrial character, the apex of your achievements that every Bantam-Miner dreamed about but only very few had hopes to ever achieve....
Nowadays, mining corps tell their newbies to train straightly to the hulk and skip every other skill, and promise to hand them out the hulk once they have the skills to use them. Your average (human) hulk pilot today is a 2-3 months old newbie with about 5 M SP, all in mining, and no clue about the game.
Ganking those creatures would make me feel small and miserable, but the good thing is that I don't have to. With t2 strip miners selling for above 6 M in my region now, it is like getting a 10 M bounty on every hulk destroyed...so please, carry on!
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lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.04.15 07:01:00 -
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Bring boosting alts+ Logi's I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
483
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Posted - 2012.04.15 07:04:00 -
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mine in mission sites d scan for combat probes
there is also grav sites, but then any kind of probes you have to watch out for. |
Dr Silkworth
Two Geezers in Space
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Posted - 2012.04.15 07:28:00 -
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Dock, unsub; its should be obvious, concede 200 Goons are more powerful than you. CCP did. |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
572
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Posted - 2012.04.15 08:10:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Surviving ganks is easy.
Always be aligned.
Only thing this is not very effective for is Ice mining... and if you do such actively, you have my pity.
Making 2-3B a month in a completely AFK setup certainly sucks.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.15 08:18:00 -
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During Hulkadeggon do not mine, but sell minerals, mining ships and mining equipment.
During the rest of the year hoard minerals and produce mining ships and mining equipment.
Profit.
During Hulkageddon run Mining and Distribution missions to buff up standing for perfect refining (and jumpclones).
You can always mine during Hulkageddon and hope for the odds (the quieter the constellation and the higher the sec-status the better, Veldspar can be nice for a change...).
And if you mine during Hulkageddon:
a. mine alligned b. don't mine afk c. watch the overview d. warp out as soon as something seems fishy e. put on some buffer tank
Be prepared that there is no tank that can not be vaporized by dedicated gankers in seconds (or even alpha'd). |
Krenalla
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
86
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Posted - 2012.04.15 11:28:00 -
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Guys and Gals
You may be interested in a great thread titled "Prepping Gankers for Hulkaggedon"
Let the forum know in there how you would counter these dastardly tactics employed |
Elyssa MacLeod
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.04.15 12:10:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Surviving ganks is easy.
Always be aligned.
Only thing this is not very effective for is Ice mining... and if you do such actively, you have my pity. Making 2-3B a month in a completely AFK setup certainly sucks.
for the rest of the game.... yes GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.
Where is your God now carebear? |
namron 7
1-800-FUBAR
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Posted - 2012.04.15 12:12:00 -
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Leave Caldari space and go somewhere else.
Cant give you any better advice than that. Thanks for the help |
QU0RRA
Isomorphic Algorithms
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Posted - 2012.04.15 12:27:00 -
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Romar Agent wrote: And if you mine during Hulkageddon:
a. mine alligned b. don't mine afk c. watch the overview d. warp out as soon as something seems fishy e. put on some buffer tank
Be prepared that there is no tank that can not be vaporized by dedicated gankers in seconds (or even alpha'd).
All you points are excellent info, but point A shows that you do not either mine in a group nor mine with an Orca. For both you need to be static and passive allignment does not work.
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Whitehound
87
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Posted - 2012.04.15 13:23:00 -
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In addition and only for the worst cases:
- Hankies
- Tissues
- Blankies
- Socks
- Cookies
- Hot chocolate
- Candles
- Music
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Whambot
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.04.15 13:59:00 -
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Elyssa MacLeod wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Surviving ganks is easy.
Always be aligned.
Only thing this is not very effective for is Ice mining... and if you do such actively, you have my pity. Making 2-3B a month in a completely AFK setup certainly sucks. for the rest of the game.... yes
Ya because you can't make twice that running incursions for the same amt of time...
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.04.15 14:05:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:1. don't be afk 2. watch local 3. use D-scan 4. be aligned to your GTFO-warp point 5. at least TRY to fit some kind of tank 6. do not fly a mining ship that you cannot afford to lose 7. do not wear implants that you cannot afford to lose If all above fails, buy your new stuff from me
Yeah, being aligned is like the ultimate win.
I mean, sure, gankers could have a Warp Disruptor without really interfering with their fit at all. But mostly they don't bother because of the totally poor align time of Hulks.
I wonder if the 17 year old kid that is the target market for Dust will find CCP delightful inability to balance anything amusing. Well, at least they will be patient. I've heard 17 year old boys are known for their patience.
Well, what other First Person Shooter will he go to? With a captive market, CCP is actually pretty safe on Dust.
Oh boy, is that gonna go boom. |
Asher Brood
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.15 14:22:00 -
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Mining Rohk -- great idea then looked at the prices of these ships... |
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.04.15 14:31:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:
Generalities easily turn one into a lair. I've been a miner my whole career, during mineral market crashes and high mineral bull markets.. no, I never botted, ran a macro... or used more than 3 accounts at once. Most ganker/griefers demonize their targets to make themselves feel better about being the bully.. but that's just human nature I suppose.
Fair enough - but just to understand you properly - what do you actually do when mining?
Honest question - do some people really sit there for hours, hitting D-Scan over and over again as has been suggested in this thread and just mine for a handfull of measly isk?
I have a character that can fly a hulk and I recently tried it (originally a hauling alt that I trained to serve my mains - just trained it because I had nothing else to train on it).
After a minute, I did something else on the second screen, later watched a little TV and then took my ebook reader out and read a book, just checking every now and then when i heard an 'asteroid depleted' message and jumping another char in a hauler back and forth.
That way it was pretty ok (as in - I was actually doing something else with an interactive screensaver in the background).
The most exciting thing happened when someone actually tried to suicide gank me in his catalyst but didn't manage to get beyond 30% shields.
But do people sit there and really 'play mining' in eve? You know... morons. |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
125
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Posted - 2012.04.15 14:51:00 -
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Low-sec vacation. For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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QU0RRA
Isomorphic Algorithms
5
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Posted - 2012.04.15 15:20:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:
Generalities easily turn one into a lair. I've been a miner my whole career, during mineral market crashes and high mineral bull markets.. no, I never botted, ran a macro... or used more than 3 accounts at once. Most ganker/griefers demonize their targets to make themselves feel better about being the bully.. but that's just human nature I suppose.
Fair enough - but just to understand you properly - what do you actually do when mining? Honest question - do some people really sit there for hours, hitting D-Scan over and over again as has been suggested in this thread and just mine for a handfull of measly isk? I have a character that can fly a hulk and I recently tried it (originally a hauling alt that I trained to serve my mains - just trained it because I had nothing else to train on it). After a minute, I did something else on the second screen, later watched a little TV and then took my ebook reader out and read a book, just checking every now and then when i heard an 'asteroid depleted' message and jumping another char in a hauler back and forth. That way it was pretty ok (as in - I was actually doing something else with an interactive screensaver in the background). The most exciting thing happened when someone actually tried to suicide gank me in his catalyst but didn't manage to get beyond 30% shields. But do people sit there and really 'play mining' in eve?
Yep, I play "mining". Then again I run 2 orcas and 5 hulks. You CAN NOT mine AFK running multiple accounts and yes I hit D/Scan every once in a while to check local but more frequent when strangers are in local.
BTW those minerals are not sold for "measly isk" but used to produce hundereds of thrashers which I sell during hulkageddons. I now also have a tornado BP and have churned a few of those out too. These ships are placed in strategic areas of new eden awaiting the burning of Jita/Hulkageddon.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2012.04.15 15:38:00 -
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QU0RRA wrote:BTW those minerals are not sold for "measly isk" but used to produce hundereds of thrashers which I sell during hulkageddons. I now also have a tornado BP and have churned a few of those out too. These ships are placed in strategic areas of new eden awaiting the burning of Jita/Hulkageddon. Ah yes, minerals you mined are free... well thanks to CCP, it is well worth your time to mine, so thanks CCP !
Good job making thrashers though. Keep it up! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
QU0RRA
Isomorphic Algorithms
6
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:QU0RRA wrote:BTW those minerals are not sold for "measly isk" but used to produce hundereds of thrashers which I sell during hulkageddons. I now also have a tornado BP and have churned a few of those out too. These ships are placed in strategic areas of new eden awaiting the burning of Jita/Hulkageddon. Ah yes, minerals you mined are free... well thanks to CCP, it is well worth your time to mine, so thanks CCP ! Good job making thrashers though. Keep it up!
Excuse me but where did you get that assumption?
I factor in the price of minerals when producing. usually 10 - 30% above base price so that my mining time produces a profit. Which is why I never sell in that cesspool named Jita.
I would advise you to engage your brain every once in a while but considering you're a mindless drone of the goon hive I won't waste my time. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:17:00 -
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Staying aligned is probably the safest precaution, well, other than joining a nullsec alliance ofc. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:24:00 -
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Best way to deal with Hulkaggedon is to buy max number of NPC goods (namely cheapy skill books) until your wallet blinks empty. Then right click -> Destroy all the skill books, as well as checking all your assets to make sure you didn't miss anything. Then log out, log back in, select biomass character, go to sleep, get back on in the morning, and confirm! Problem solved with getting ganked in a ****** ship with poor fitting options that no one but the miners want buffed (even just a little, cause having more structure then shield but a resist bonus barely helps = laughstock) since most dudes want to destroy a ship that takes far longer to get into and cost more in time then a cheap destroyer alt (pro-tip: Titan Nerf, Destroyer Buff, Destroyer acting like highsec mini-Titan in packs equates to DESTROY NEEDING NERF JUST AS MUCH AS TITAN DOES!), be pro-active and destroy your the character youself before a ganker gets to you. And ask CCP to get rid of all mineral sources, since miners are not needed or respected. |
QU0RRA
Isomorphic Algorithms
6
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:35:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Best way to deal with Hulkaggedon is to buy max number of NPC goods (namely cheapy skill books) until your wallet blinks empty. Then right click -> Destroy all the skill books, as well as checking all your assets to make sure you didn't miss anything. Then log out, log back in, select biomass character, go to sleep, get back on in the morning, and confirm! Problem solved with getting ganked in a ****** ship with poor fitting options that no one but the miners want buffed (even just a little, cause having more structure then shield but a resist bonus barely helps = laughstock) since most dudes want to destroy a ship that takes far longer to get into and cost more in time then a cheap destroyer alt (pro-tip: Titan Nerf, Destroyer Buff, Destroyer acting like highsec mini-Titan in packs equates to DESTROY NEEDING NERF JUST AS MUCH AS TITAN DOES!), be pro-active and destroy your the character youself before a ganker gets to you. And ask CCP to get rid of all mineral sources, since miners are not needed or respected.
Are you ok? I fear for your mental wellbeing. I suggest you see a doctor soon, before it's to late.
Because only someone squirrel nuts could come off with all that keek. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3787
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:56:00 -
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Insure the Tech 1 Barges and use those instead that way when it gets popped you just get another one and keep mining.
Serious infomration.
Park on the wrong side of the belt the side you dont warp in at max distance, long range lasers the best if you can afford off the ship.
Go tech 1 Replace cargo expanders with armor Replace mids with sebo/jammer combo a successful jam would save you from a second volley and allow the next option Align to warp out target if you must maintain a slower speed and 'sweep belts' less time to spool up. Splash out soon as somone in a combat ship splashes in. Drop the mining drones, get jammer drones instead. Dont jet can mine Dont hauler mine
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
533
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:06:00 -
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Anyone who can not think of something else to do during Hulkageddon, I mean anything, besides mining should probably play a different game. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
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