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Requiescat
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:01:00 -
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So, my first Ishkur after Trinity, and I'm running a very slight modification of my old setup.
This is, with Electronics 5, Engineering 5, Weapon Upgrades 5 and Advanced Weapon Upgrades 4, a relatively easy fit:
3x Light Electron Blaster II 1x 'Solace' Small Remote Rep
1x 1mn Afterburner II 1x J5 disruptor 1x X5 web
1x SAR II 1x Energized Reactive II 1x Damage Control II
With Assault Ships 4, I have 45m3 of drone space, which is currently loaded with:
5x Hobgoblin II 4x Hornet EC-300
EFT says I'm putting out around 170 DPS with my respectable skills, and the tank runs quite nicely. The remote rep is for myrm-style repping your drones once your enemy gets wise to the fact that they sting like whoa.
Comments? Suggestions?
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Dr Therikal
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:05:00 -
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You're gonna have to be in awful close to use those blasters and the repper, my only concern is that the AB might not keep you fast and tight enough to avoid getting shredded by the retribution of whatever you're fighting. --------------------------------- But courage which goes against military expediency is stupidity, or, if it is insisted upon by a commander, irresponsibility. -Erwin Rommel |
Requiescat
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: Requiescat on 11/12/2007 06:13:39
Originally by: Dr Therikal You're gonna have to be in awful close to use those blasters and the repper, my only concern is that the AB might not keep you fast and tight enough to avoid getting shredded by the retribution of whatever you're fighting.
Check this out.
Should be at about 2:15
Edit: Fixed lazylink. Bah.
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Dr Therikal
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat Edited by: Requiescat on 11/12/2007 06:13:39
Originally by: Dr Therikal You're gonna have to be in awful close to use those blasters and the repper, my only concern is that the AB might not keep you fast and tight enough to avoid getting shredded by the retribution of whatever you're fighting.
Check this out.
Should be at about 2:15
Edit: Fixed lazylink. Bah.
I didn't watch, but I'll assume it's an Ishkur doing just fine with an Afterburner. I rest my case then. Why proffer up a fit if you've got examples to counter any criticism?
You've got one test left, trial by fire. Go throw that thing into combat, and see how she does. :) --------------------------------- But courage which goes against military expediency is stupidity, or, if it is insisted upon by a commander, irresponsibility. -Erwin Rommel |
Matarella
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:05:00 -
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My Ishkur
3x Light Ion Blasters II 1x Small Nosferatu II
1x Named Web 1x Named 20km Scrambler 1x Named MWD
1x SAR II 1x DC II 1x Overdrive II
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Maeltstome
Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Matarella My Ishkur
3x Light Ion Blasters II 1x Small Nosferatu II
1x Named Web 1x Named 20km Scrambler 1x Named MWD
1x SAR II 1x DC II 1x Overdrive II
Congratulations, you've just died to a wolf/jaguar/anything with exp damage. I've also recieved hatemail from pilots with your fit got killing them in high orbit inties. Fit 125's and don't take smack then fly a drone boat frig.
P.s. To put things in perspective, 125's do about 25% less damage than Electron blasters. But they massively increase your ships usefulness. -------
[12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF |
Requiescat
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Requiescat on 13/12/2007 20:50:56
Originally by: Dr Therikal
Originally by: Requiescat Edited by: Requiescat on 11/12/2007 06:13:39
Originally by: Dr Therikal You're gonna have to be in awful close to use those blasters and the repper, my only concern is that the AB might not keep you fast and tight enough to avoid getting shredded by the retribution of whatever you're fighting.
Check this out.
Should be at about 2:15
Edit: Fixed lazylink. Bah.
I didn't watch, but I'll assume it's an Ishkur doing just fine with an Afterburner. I rest my case then. Why proffer up a fit if you've got examples to counter any criticism?
You've got one test left, trial by fire. Go throw that thing into combat, and see how she does. :)
It's actually a video of an Enyo killing a Retribution, which I found ironic because you said I was gonna get shredded by "that retribution you're fighting." The Enyo is even slower than the Ishkur and lacks the mids for a web, so, I found it pretty humorous.
Originally by: Maeltstome Congratulations, you've just died to a wolf/jaguar/anything with exp damage. I've also recieved hatemail from pilots with your fit got killing them in high orbit inties. Fit 125's and don't take smack then fly a drone boat frig.
P.s. To put things in perspective, 125's do about 25% less damage than Electron blasters. But they massively increase your ships usefulness.
Have you EVER flown an Ishkur? NO. Have you ever SEEN one in combat? NO! Do you know how I know that?
You point me at a high orbit ceptor that has any sort of respectable DPS, and you're pointing at someone who's cheating. Ishkurs can tank. Ishkurs can actually tank pretty hard. Hard enough for backup to arrive and make the ceptor bugger off.
Not to mention if you spam "Engage Target" your drones will MWD and land a hit every now and then, which is plenty to scare a Crow away in my experiience. Post-Trinity, it's no longer feasible to field medium drones on an Ishkur, and with drone navigation, unless that high orbit ceptor has snakes or faction, they're going to catch him.
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Enkilil
Minmatar Carbon Moon Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.13 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Maeltstome Fit 125's and don't take smack then fly a drone boat frig.
P.s. To put things in perspective, 125's do about 25% less damage than Electron blasters. But they massively increase your ships usefulness.
LOL 25% less than electrons? If you're pvp'ing 1 month old noobs in frigs that will be incredibly useful. Thanks for sharing that.
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Flurren
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Flurren on 13/12/2007 23:48:11 Well done for having the reading comprehension of a 5 year old with leprosy in their eyes requiescat. Try learning some words longer than cat and dog next time (like retribution).
P.S. I have no opinion about this discussion other than to say i dont like the thought of flying an ishkur without an explosive hardener.
Having said that, the ishkur has stupid bonuses anyway since it should have done damage instead of turret damage so it can fit whatever turrets it wants and not have to fit damage mods. Currently its trying to be a turret AF avec drones without the slots to do it properly (and still beats the **** out of all the other AFs. Buff the things for christs sake).
Wow. I rambled for quite a way in the end.
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