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Fswd Gallente Black Ops Corporation THORN Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 01:55:00 - [331] 2 words: jump freighters ---
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.04 03:08:00 - [332] Originally by: Fswd 2 words: jump freighters How about 8 billion words.........
Bahamir	Posted - 2007.12.04 04:20:00 - [333] Originally by: ChaosOne Originally by: Fswd 2 words: jump freighters How about 8 billion words......... I'll get banned for sure :D
Smoogle	Posted - 2007.12.04 05:43:00 - [334] I don't really get the point of drone bandwidth. IE: in my covetor, the bay is 50 m3. 5 drones, each 10 m3, and I can field 5. 'K. So they are limiting ships to basically the SAME limit they have now? Whats the point of that? Unless they increase the bay size so you can use mining drones, then recall and toss out fighters, or recall your fighters and toss out repair drones. And to do that, you'd need a bigger bay anyways.
Armadaus Baldwin Combat and Mining Utility Inc. Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.12.04 06:48:00 - [335] As I've said before, blanket nerfs are not a good idea, and not well thought through. And yes, I'm using the Arazu as my example... deal with it. An Arazu has two purposes. To Scout and Lock Down an Enemy for a gang. And to support a fleet with the same thing. Without adjusting the bonuses on the Arazu, it's now a fairly useless ship for both of it's roles. I cannot lock down and pin an enemy and await for reinforcements, if he can target and smoke me in a few seconds. RSD's are the life/death of Arazu's. This needs to be seriously reconsidered. I admit freely that RSD's are overpowered in general, but ships made specifically to survive by their use, need to keep their current status quo.
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.12.04 07:40:00 - [336] Originally by: Matalino It will greatly reduce the number of wallet transaction records stored in the database, as all of the rats that you kill in 15-20 minutes will be creditted in a single transaction instead of several dozen. This will improve DB preformance and make the wallet export more usable. Ah, well the notes could have been a bit clearer. I thought there would be a delay of 15 minutes then all the bounties would be paid as they are now, and not as a lump-sum. Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:17:00 - [337] Originally by: Smoogle I don't really get the point of drone bandwidth. IE: in my covetor, the bay is 50 m3. 5 drones, each 10 m3, and I can field 5. 'K. So they are limiting ships to basically the SAME limit they have now? Whats the point of that? Unless they increase the bay size so you can use mining drones, then recall and toss out fighters, or recall your fighters and toss out repair drones. And to do that, you'd need a bigger bay anyways. Drone bandwidth is implemented to allow dedicated drone-boats (and others) to bring along reinforcement-wave drones, and at the same time limit them from fielding five heavies on a cruiser. Big dronebay in Rev = bigger drones, but still just 5. Big dronebay in Trin = Limited by bandwidth, thus still fielding med drones, but can bring a lot more, so if they go pop, launch another. Or bring several kinds of drones for different damagetypes etcetc. And about the ratting payout: Once you kill an NPC, a clock starts ticking. Every NPC you kill (belt rat or mission rat) during that time gets accumulated to one big payout. That payout will be payed if you jump system (unsure about that) or if you wait 25 minutes. You still get the same payout. This is to reduce database read/writes and increase performance overall. Imagine you kill 80 rats. That's 80 writes in the database, and 80 writes in your wallet. Now, imagine you kill those rats in less than 40 minutes. That's 2 writes in your wallet, and 2 to the database. Some increase in performance, hmm?
Shinzann Sten Industries	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:26:00 - [338] Originally by: Ancy Denaries And about the ratting payout: Once you kill an NPC, a clock starts ticking. Every NPC you kill (belt rat or mission rat) during that time gets accumulated to one big payout. That payout will be payed if you jump system (unsure about that) or if you wait 25 minutes. You still get the same payout. This is to reduce database read/writes and increase performance overall. Imagine you kill 80 rats. That's 80 writes in the database, and 80 writes in your wallet. Now, imagine you kill those rats in less than 40 minutes. That's 2 writes in your wallet, and 2 to the database. Some increase in performance, hmm? As long as I get paid for the rats I kill, it's all good. === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix.
Shinzann Sten Industries	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:27:00 - [339] Edited by: Shinzann on 04/12/2007 09:27:18 Originally by: Inertia Foryu Originally by: Chilled G OMG a whole day without eve ...... i think i can hold on I'm really looking forward to this, Good Luck CCP I'm excited as well. I will be completely uninstalling the old eve, with all the old eve cache files, and then run some serious defragging of my hard drive. I will be ready! Hey... that's not a bad idea... it'll distract my mind from the lack of EVE... edited for spelling === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix.
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:27:00 - [340] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Once you kill an NPC, a clock starts ticking. Every NPC you kill (belt rat or mission rat) during that time gets accumulated to one big payout. That payout will be payed if you jump system (unsure about that) or if you wait 25 minutes. You still get the same payout. This is to reduce database read/writes and increase performance overall. Imagine you kill 80 rats. That's 80 writes in the database, and 80 writes in your wallet. Now, imagine you kill those rats in less than 40 minutes. That's 2 writes in your wallet, and 2 to the database. Some increase in performance, hmm? Yes, but the transactions have to be stored somewhere before the credit to your wallet, question is where? Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.

Kurogauna	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:36:00 - [341] What about gallente blue ugliness ? - Real men tank hull.
Distillers Caldari Dedspace Saints Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:13:00 - [342] Dont know if its ben asked already but what about the lost day we all have paid for?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:21:00 - [343] Edited by: MotherMoon on 04/12/2007 10:21:01 Originally by: Distillers Dont know if its ben asked already but what about the lost day we all have paid for? it's payment for the expansion, if you don't like it fork up 30 bucks. ungrateful twit. Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Chruker	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:31:00 - [344] Originally by: SeismicForce Originally by: Ancy Denaries Once you kill an NPC, a clock starts ticking. Every NPC you kill (belt rat or mission rat) during that time gets accumulated to one big payout. That payout will be payed if you jump system (unsure about that) or if you wait 25 minutes. You still get the same payout. This is to reduce database read/writes and increase performance overall. Imagine you kill 80 rats. That's 80 writes in the database, and 80 writes in your wallet. Now, imagine you kill those rats in less than 40 minutes. That's 2 writes in your wallet, and 2 to the database. Some increase in performance, hmm? Yes, but the transactions have to be stored somewhere before the credit to your wallet, question is where? The solarsystem node's memory propably, if they hope to decrease the amount of DB transactions with it. Changing the bounty payouts from single payout to blob payout, also means less data for the server to send to your client. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:32:00 - [345] what i dont understand is that ccp nerf the carier like this, when basicly 90% of eve dont feel like its needed... i know its there game and all, but ffs.. listening to the player base is always a good idea... ya well lets see when it is renerfed... the next patch will prolly be that u can only launch 5 fighters. if that happends i know alot who leaves.. enough is enough really.. some people have trained for a LONG time under FALSE ideas... nerfing isent always good... and also with the new heavy dictor i wouldent pilot a mom in the first place... rather be in the dictor hehe... they ROCK. 1 dictor with 1 carier repping it while shoting at the mom... BYE motherships... was nice seing you..... NOT good ccp... u ****** up players who have trained for along time... im not happy... eye candy or not... it just aint all...
Distillers Caldari Dedspace Saints Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:45:00 - [346] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 04/12/2007 10:21:01 Originally by: Distillers Dont know if its ben asked already but what about the lost day we all have paid for? it's payment for the expansion, if you don't like it fork up 30 bucks. ungrateful twit. Someone get out of the wrong side of bed this morning or maybe forgot to have there weetabix? Thought i paid for the game when i got it and each time i pay everytime i run out of eve time. Wont even be able to use the "Premium Graphics Content" anyways so to me it wont mean much. But i do know they've put alot of time and money into this great game which im not attacking. Just wondering if they'll give us that day back...
Adam C 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:47:00 - [347] 'Drone groups will properly persist after logging off.' Does this mean they disappear when a player logs off and reappear when a player logs on?
Kitarie II Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:13:00 - [348] Originally by: Adam C 'Drone groups will properly persist after logging off.' Does this mean they disappear when a player logs off and reappear when a player logs on? No. There was a bug when you created drone groups that they disappeared. Now they won't --- My Videos: Noob on tour I Noob on tour II - not final
Razoran	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:22:00 - [349] Awesome stuff CCP, seriously. i doubt WOW would ever get something quite this big. especially love the heat improvements and drone bandwidth thing. they'll both increase tactical options, and really make you have to make decisions in battle. We are, after all, flying big Spaceships, and ships are generally complicated. i dont understand the people who wont combat overly simplified, its just stupid. Oh, and distillers, seriously, thats like your boss saying "im tripling your pay,halfing your work day and promoting you from janitor to CEO and im giving you your unpaid vacation!" you:"IM NOT GETTING PAID FOR THE VACAION!!??"
Mytzso	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:24:00 - [350] I am a happy n00b.

Dr Trust Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:40:00 - [351] Originally by: Distillers Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 04/12/2007 10:21:01 Originally by: Distillers Dont know if its ben asked already but what about the lost day we all have paid for? it's payment for the expansion, if you don't like it fork up 30 bucks. ungrateful twit. no offence buddy , but i think u need to re-read the patch notes , yes we have a nice new GFX pack , but there is a ton of new ships and such comeing aswell , last time they did a patch this size it was a day gone aswell Someone get out of the wrong side of bed this morning or maybe forgot to have there weetabix? Thought i paid for the game when i got it and each time i pay everytime i run out of eve time. Wont even be able to use the "Premium Graphics Content" anyways so to me it wont mean much. But i do know they've put alot of time and money into this great game which im not attacking. Just wondering if they'll give us that day back... What I say or do is not the opion of RMF just my own
Distillers Caldari Dedspace Saints Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:58:00 - [352] Good point. When i finally get a day off work all i want to do is chill out and play some eve. Im just disappointed that the patch comes on a day im off but ach well i guess. Cant wait to see the upgrade.
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:34:00 - [353] And I just bought my new puter!!! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com - Cortes
Jolliejoe Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:40:00 - [354] 02:00 GMT wednesday??? Is that AM or PM????
Jolliejoe Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:44:00 - [355] Originally by: Distillers Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 04/12/2007 10:21:01 Originally by: Distillers Dont know if its ben asked already but what about the lost day we all have paid for? it's payment for the expansion, if you don't like it fork up 30 bucks. ungrateful twit. Someone get out of the wrong side of bed this morning or maybe forgot to have there weetabix? Thought i paid for the game when i got it and each time i pay everytime i run out of eve time. Wont even be able to use the "Premium Graphics Content" anyways so to me it wont mean much. But i do know they've put alot of time and money into this great game which im not attacking. Just wondering if they'll give us that day back... Whiner... GTFOH
Vir Hellnamin KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:55:00 - [356] Originally by: Jolliejoe 02:00 GMT wednesday??? Is that AM or PM???? Most likely they are talking in 24-hour clock, so it's two AM. -- V.H. "Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi, Gradient [GRD]
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.12.04 13:20:00 - [357] Originally by: Anglo 1 dictor with 1 carier repping it while shoting at the mom... BYE motherships... was nice seing you..... Yes, that would be quite nice... IF the information on H-Dictors did not specifically state that you cannot remote support them while the disruption field is active. Way to read. -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.12.04 13:26:00 - [358] The one thing I'm concerned about is whether or not we'll be able to DL the full (enhanced graphics/client) expansion as either patch or gross client install from the site Out of Game, or if the only way to get the extra graphical stuff is through background DL while playing. I log on to EVE from a dial up line, so it would be physically impossible for me to DL this at home. I can however DL it from school and transport the data back, but not in game, as the client won't run here. -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
StarStryder Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.12.04 13:29:00 - [359] Originally by: Distillers Someone get out of the wrong side of bed this morning or maybe forgot to have there weetabix? The reason for being grumpy about your question is that every single patch this question gets asked over and over. It's not a problem unique to EVE. The problem of people not knowing how to use the sodding search function before posting a question exists on just about every forum on the web. As far as I'm aware (and my searches reveal) CCP has never refunded anyone for upgrade downtime. Given that the game's been running 4 years, I'd take that as a pretty big hint.
Riddick Valer	Posted - 2007.12.04 13:30:00 - [360] Won't the change to bounties hurt new players? Currently, a new player running lvl 1 missions won't pay tax, because each individual kill doesn't pay enough bounty to trigger the corp tax rate. But if it is paid as a lump sum, these low-isk bounties (which I assumed were untaxed to help new players) will have a high enough total to trigger the tax.



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