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SerratedX
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.13 11:30:00 -
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Ka P'lah wrote: I don't know why we wouldn't want her on our player advisory council to CCP...
Maybe because she doesn't have a clue about nullsec or pvp in general.
Why would I vote for Issler when I could vote for Elise for example who has a much broader base of experience. He is an FC, CEO, has an alt industrial corp, has a titan alt.
What could Issler contribute to a discussion about:
Supercap balancing Moongoo rebalancing Nullsec sov improvements Lowsec improvements Faction Warfare
The answer is nothing. There are numerous other people running who have experience (even perhaps more than Issler) in industry, which is Isslers niche platform.
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 11:31:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Can Issler tell us where the "Drop de Panties" button is?
I think that is a personal question between her and her significant other Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1102
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:20:00 -
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Again, thanks for all the support I've gotten!
The impressive increase in voting levels makes me think that at least some of the "long shot" candidates are going to surprise the CSM 6 legacy!
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:21:00 -
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SerratedX wrote:
Maybe because she doesn't have a clue about nullsec or pvp in general.
Yes because after a year of Null sec and PvP improvements to the game with bugger all else besides and even the next patch being mostly to do with PVP, we really need more of that.
CSM6, a catch phrase for the minority ignoring the majority. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
SerratedX
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:41:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Yes because after a year of Null sec and PvP improvements to the game with bugger all else besides and even the next patch being mostly to do with PVP, we really need more of that.
This is just not true.
The dozens of fixes and features that CSM6 successfully pushed for have a ton on of things that make all eve players happier. Client optimization, POS fixes, new nebulae, engine trails, POCOs, anom balancing and the new neocom are just some examples. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:45:00 -
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SerratedX wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Yes because after a year of Null sec and PvP improvements to the game with bugger all else besides and even the next patch being mostly to do with PVP, we really need more of that.
This is just not true. The dozens of fixes and features that CSM6 successfully pushed for have a ton on of things that make all eve players happier. Client optimization, POS fixes, new nebulae, engine trails, POCOs, anom balancing and the new neocom are just some examples.
Ok I must have Missed something. POS fixes, does this mean the code for the POS's works now and you can use an alliance POS for invention (As they we originally supposed to) or that the standings for the weapons systems works correctly now? Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:49:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the rookie ship redesigns that are in today's release aren't something that really benefit null alliances and ~elite pvp~ types a whole lot. And yes, they were something CSM6 pushed for. Check the minutes.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1103
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:58:00 -
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SerratedX wrote:Ka P'lah wrote: I don't know why we wouldn't want her on our player advisory council to CCP...
Maybe because she doesn't have a clue about nullsec or pvp in general. Why would I vote for Issler when I could vote for Elise for example who has a much broader base of experience. He is an FC, CEO, has an alt industrial corp, has a titan alt. What could Issler contribute to a discussion about: Supercap balancing Moongoo rebalancing Nullsec sov improvements Lowsec improvements Faction Warfare The answer is nothing. There are numerous other people running who have experience (even perhaps more than Issler) in industry, which is Isslers niche platform.
Lived in Syndicate for a year. Three months in the drone region.
Was in the alliance tourney twice. Finished the first time in the upper 3rd.
I run multiple moon POSs to support our very profitable T2 ship production.
Owned a tech moon for a year in Tasti.
I live in low sec and have for 80% of my time in Eve.
Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
Set up an alt corp for FW when it first came out. Ended up finding it not my thing.
Supercaps, never had one, so all I can offer is observations.
I am not just a miner, I've spent 8 years in Eve and have done most all there is at one time or another.
So thanks for giving me a time to remind everyone I am one of the most rounded and experienced candidates in the race!
Issler Danze The Miner's Friend but MORE!! Csm 7 Candidate
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1103
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:02:00 -
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SerratedX wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Yes because after a year of Null sec and PvP improvements to the game with bugger all else besides and even the next patch being mostly to do with PVP, we really need more of that.
This is just not true. The dozens of fixes and features that CSM6 successfully pushed for have a ton on of things that make all eve players happier. Client optimization, POS fixes, new nebulae, engine trails, POCOs, anom balancing and the new neocom are just some examples.
Hmm, lets look at that list.
Client optimization would have certainly happened without CSM 6.
There have been only small POS fixes and to claim that EVERY CSM since #1 hasn't been pusing for POS fixes is crazy talk.
I've and many others have been shouting to CCP about fixing the sky boxes for years, so not the CSM 6.
Engine trails were already promised to be coming back, not the CSM 6.
POCOs are here because of DUST, not the CSM 6.
Balancing and neocom improvements have also been discussed by every CSM and the player base at large, not the CSM 6.
So, in summary, nothing there we can credit the CSM 6 with.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1848
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:47:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you.
What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:56:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you. What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7? It was not The Mittani or CSM 6 that got CCP to listen to them. It was pure fear and the player base. So many people cancelled their accounts and there was so much rage directed at the company, they had to listen or their profits would have continued to plummet and the CEO Hilmar Veigarwould have probably been fired. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2818
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Posted - 2012.03.14 04:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you. What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7? It was not The Mittani or CSM 6 that got CCP to listen to them. It was pure fear and the player base. So many people cancelled their accounts and there was so much rage directed at the company, they had to listen or their profits would have continued to plummet and the CEO Hilmar Veigarwould have probably been fired.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80374
CCP does not listen to the CSM. Nope. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:06:00 -
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Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you. What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7? It was not The Mittani or CSM 6 that got CCP to listen to them. It was pure fear and the player base. So many people cancelled their accounts and there was so much rage directed at the company, they had to listen or their profits would have continued to plummet and the CEO Hilmar Veigarwould have probably been fired. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80374 CCP does not listen to the CSM. Nope. So more Goonsheep logic.
How strange the article you refer to was posted on 2012.03.13 11:46 well after the Summer of Rage that forced CCP to communicate better. Communication with the CSM and the players increased after all the leaks, bad communication and down right idiocy of Incarna. Saying that CSM 6 forced CCP to communicate more, Is like blaming them for Incarna because they were the CSM in Office when it was released. CCP released it, it blew up in CCP's face and CCP learned they had to communicate better.
Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1853
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:16:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Spent hours in CSM 2 discussing ways to fix null sov (they did nothing we suggested).
So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you. What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7? It was not The Mittani or CSM 6 that got CCP to listen to them. It was pure fear and the player base. So many people cancelled their accounts and there was so much rage directed at the company, they had to listen or their profits would have continued to plummet and the CEO Hilmar Veigarwould have probably been fired. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80374 CCP does not listen to the CSM. Nope. So more Goonsheep logic. How strange the article you refer to was posted on 2012.03.13 11:46 well after the Summer of Rage that forced CCP to communicate better. Communication with the CSM and the players increased after all the leaks, bad communication and down right idiocy of Incarna. Saying that CSM 6 forced CCP to communicate more, Is like blaming them for Incarna because they were the CSM in Office when it was released. CCP released it, it blew up in CCP's face and CCP learned they had to communicate better.
Most of Incarna was developed during CSM 5. Right at the end of their term they sent an open letter to CCP warning them that it was all going to blow up.
CCP didn't start actually listening to the CSM until Mittens and the rest of CSM6 started talking to the gaming media during the summer of rage. Then CCP flew them to Iceland for an emergency summit and now the game is back on track. CCP has committed to working on space content, iterating current features and bug fixes and the outlook is great.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:28:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:CCP didn't start actually listening to the CSM until Mittens and the rest of CSM6 started talking to the gaming media during the summer of rage. Then CCP flew them to Iceland for an emergency summit and now the game is back on track. CCP has committed to working on space content, iterating current features and bug fixes and the outlook is great.
TBH the main thing I remember on the timing of CCP's sudden need to talk, was that the press release they issued, followed by the dreaded leaked Memo, all the while with the Treadnaught number on submission cancellations flying up. I think that the CSM was handy and that The Mittani if not so much managed to handle CCP but the players themselves. With articles like http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/63 and his other posts which calmed the masses. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:27:00 -
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Remember a Vote for Issler Dainze is a vote for fairness in this Goonsheep tainted election. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Remember a Vote for Issler Dainze is a vote for fairness in this Goonsheep tainted election.
tell me more about goonsheep taints
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1867
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:37:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:CCP didn't start actually listening to the CSM until Mittens and the rest of CSM6 started talking to the gaming media during the summer of rage. Then CCP flew them to Iceland for an emergency summit and now the game is back on track. CCP has committed to working on space content, iterating current features and bug fixes and the outlook is great.
TBH the main thing I remember on the timing of CCP's sudden need to talk, was that the press release they issued, followed by the dreaded leaked Memo, all the while with the Treadnaught number on submission cancellations flying up. I think that the CSM was handy and that The Mittani if not so much managed to handle CCP but the players themselves. With articles like http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/63 and his other posts which calmed the masses.
So what you're saying is that The Mittani was able to convince CCP on how to proceed after the summer of rage *and* calm the playerbase down all at the same time? Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I'm not sure Issler appreciates all this praise heaped on Mittens in her thread, though.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:42:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote: So what you're saying is that The Mittani was able to convince CCP on how to proceed after the summer of rage *and* calm the playerbase down all at the same time? Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I'm not sure Issler appreciates all this praise heaped on Mittens in her thread, though.
Ahh more of Goonsheeps mindless drivel...
No what I'm saying is CCP used The Mittani. At that point I think they would have taken anyone...Oh wait they did. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1106
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:05:00 -
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Miner's Unite!
We are going to make our voice heard in this election!
Thanks to everyone that has pledged their vote, we can show the power blocks the power of thousands of mining laser pointed in the same direction!
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1896
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:15:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote: So what you're saying is that The Mittani was able to convince CCP on how to proceed after the summer of rage *and* calm the playerbase down all at the same time? Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I'm not sure Issler appreciates all this praise heaped on Mittens in her thread, though.
Ahh more of Goonsheeps mindless drivel...
I was responding to your post. I guess you are posting "Goonsheeps mindless drivel".
Issler, you never answered my question about how, if you are elected, your term on the CSM will be any different than your CSM 2 term where you were completely ignored. I think potential voters would be interested in hearing about that. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2716
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:20:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Miner's Unite!
We are going to make our voice heard in this election!
Thanks to everyone that has pledged their vote, we can show the power blocks the power of thousands of mining laser pointed in the same direction!
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate ahahaha you think you'll get thousands of votes |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1107
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:32:00 -
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More goon bumps!!
Woot!
Miners Unite! Don't let some random goon claim you can't decide to better Eve for miners!
Vote your mind! Vote for your interests! Vote for the miner's Friend!
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.03.15 02:20:00 -
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[quote=Issler Dainze]More goon bumps!!
Woot
Miners Unite! Don't let some random goon claim you can't decide to better Eve for miners
Vote your mind! Vote for your interests! Vote for the miner's Friend
Issler Dainz The Miner's Frien CSM 7 Candidat
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Issler please work with me, we are on the final step of exorcising the wis out of you, so that you may continue to carpetbag on mining issues.
Do you renounce wis and all the spiritual forces of wickedness that rebel against EVE Online? Do you renounce the frivolous multitudes that seek to corrupt and render astray the righteous path of Team Avatar? Do you renounce all sinful desires of emoting that draw you from the love of EVE Online? Do you turn to The Mittani and accept him as your esteemed Chairman? Do you put your whole trust in his grace and love? Do you promise to follow and obey him as your Chairman?
Credo in Spiritum Sanctum sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem remissionem peccatorum carnis resurrectionem vitam aeternam Amen One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:44:00 -
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Next Batter please. The last Goonsheep was stuck on Wis and it seem to have effected his thought process. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:55:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Next Batter please. The last Goonsheep was stuck on Wis and it seem to have effected his thought process. it's too late for you, you've already voted, you barbie lover, but issler can still drop out, last chance for repentance. One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:58:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Next Batter please. The last Goonsheep was stuck on Wis and it seem to have effected his thought process. it's too late for you, you've already voted, you barbie lover, but issler can still drop out, last chance for repentance.
You afraid of one woman?
What a macho man |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
207
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:13:00 -
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afraid for her soul, for all souls of god's creations my child. One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:54:00 -
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This probably expains why this year and last year the Goons made such an attack on Issler.
As Trebor Daehdoow states in his post The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections
Quote:One of the classic techniques used by bloc-candidate supporters to get people to waste votes is to engage in a massive trolling attack to generate both a huge thread and sympathy votes. This is probably happening in the campaign thread of Issler Dainze.
Maybe that explains it, the Goonswarm management or the the Goonsheep them selves are afraid of women, as to whether that is all women or ones in positions of authority this is yet to be known. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
907
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Posted - 2012.03.15 13:34:00 -
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@ Frying Doom
I stole your signature. I hope that you don't have nothing against. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470-á |
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