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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:21:00 -
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Hello again community, I'm back again and about on time too. It seems I can't go more than six (6) months without doing some sort of financial project. Granted EBANK is a big name that I've attached myself to but in truth the sharp minds there honor me be allowing me in their presence and humor me by listening to this old man talk. Usually about glory day stuff. This project here is one I'm taking allot of personal responsibility for in fact. While I can't say that all of the details are going to be run, or overseen, directly by me this is not unusual as in my past projects ( here and here) I was not solo then either. My partner in this project is Benvie, a brash and bold market newcomer with a gamble he wants to invite you all in on. Gamble? What nonsense is this? Yes, gamble. If you haven't read the original ipo idea you have missed out on a real humdinger of a great idea. This idea has the potential for great reward but don't be fooled: it is wrought with great risk. Unlike most ipo's today that try to convince you that they are reliable, stable, and will offer you a piddly amount of interest for the honor of investing in them this is a real gambit aimed directly into the bleeding heart of the market. What the hell are you talking about? Well, in blunt, the idea is to increase the reach of the decision making that Benvie is going to be integral to making. As in my past exploits, the additional funding is not to enable the activity but to propel it into greater realms of success. Success that Benvie & I are quite eager to attain and we are not to proud to share. Truly told, not to proud to come here and humbly ask, "Come on a wild ride with us." Details, man, give me details! Well if you followed the link above you have had a chance to read the details of the ipo in generic terms. However I will specify a few specifics that may, or may not, increase the attractiveness of this venture to you. Let me say upfront that at no point will Benvie actually be handling any funds involved. Sadly I feel that this may be offensive to him this community has little in the way of "loose trust" to give unknown, or unblooded, newcomers. This being the case I will be handling 100% of all isk transactions of every kind. This is to include an alt character within the corporation to handle dividend payments via the in game share mechanisms. I will also be, personally, performing tasks (as directed to by Benvie) specifically related to the purchasing and sales of the projects targeted items. Again, this has all been well docmunated previously. This brings us, of course, to my favorite part!!! (And I'm going to simply copy and paste my upcoming section to as it is soooooo damn good!) Who am I? I'm not some well renowned PVP'er/ Pirate/ Role player blah, blah, blah. I'm just well known for speaking my mind, and the truth as I know it, without any regard for anyone feelings, respect, or even my own survival. In that regard I'm just as bad as most of the worst pirates in the game. I don't give a rat's ass about the community's opinion of me. I do what I do because it is what I want to do regardless of (un)popular opinions or any trends or fads. The prime thing that I bring to any situation I'm involved in is: Honesty. Business acumen, Eve awareness, even some level of diplomacy (which many doubt I have), are key fundamentals to any successful project. Yet I've believe, and have always stated, that character is the most important trait, to the exclusion of all others. to consider with any offering out there. Character that you can bank on... that I have in limitless quantity. [Character Maximum Reached - Continued Here] |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:23:00 -
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Why should I trust you?
You shouldn't.
If you feel that there is no reason for you to do so, don't. I am at peace with the fact that you choose not to entrust me with your funds. To be even more blunt, if you feel you have trust questions that are unanswered please pass this chance by. Pass This opportunity, pass this post, pass me by entirely. I'd rather not have the headaches as it quickly becomes difficult to distinguish between honest questions and flame baiting/mild trolling. I've got enough marks, you know what kind, on my record that I'm just going to ignore any trust issue questions and potential trolls/flames, period.
You may feel free to do some research if you like and come to your own conclusions. But I'm not going to kiss your arse anymore than I think you'll kiss mine.
The Full Monty
There are 30K shares available in the corporation "Revelations Direct". Benvie hopes those shares will sell for 500,000 each bringing the ipo, in total, to 15B in funds. I am currently in sole ownership of all 30K shares. I will accept posted reservation amounts here in this thread and accept payments via "Shar Tegral" (Accept no substitutes!) at this time. However Benvie & I both agree that there is a pass/fail point that needs to be reached. Until that point is reached, a point that will be clearly posted, all funds will simply be held in my wallet. If the point is reached and the fund fails to muster, all funds will be returned.
Pass Amount: 7.5 Billion Fail Date: 20-Oct-2007, DT
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:24:00 -
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Reserved |
Treelox
Amarr Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:34:00 -
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350 shares isk to be sent nowish. -- ] [orange]signature removed (change the zombie gagging sig) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected] |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 17/10/2007 06:51:46 So, is there a max per person? I really am quite tired right now and don't believe I saw it, but it could be there.
Assuming there is no max, I would like to reserve 6000 shares (3 bill) worth. Mostly because I love Shar's posts, even when I don't agree with him completely. Very smart to have decided to work with him Benvie. If there is a max which is below 3 billion isk then I'll take the max.
Though I think you should post in this thread what % of profits will go to investors and what will be kept for management. I think it's listed in the other thread, but that part should be here imo.
I can't log in right now to send the 3 bill isk so I will do it tomorrow asap.
I am quite sure this will have no problem reaching 7.5 bill (it's almost half way there already) but if it should have a problem I will fill in the needed isk. I was looking for a fun IPO to invest in and this seems like it. I decided to let others join in the fun as well, instead of just buying the whole thing out. I think Benvie will gain more out of it this way as he will impress more people if he does well.
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:59:00 -
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I'll take 200 shares, please.
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:02:00 -
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There is no maximum shares per person.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:16:00 -
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I'll take 1,000 shares and will send isk when I am ingame later this week (if that is ok with you) ---------------------- sig out of order, returning soon FTEK | Production ~ Research ~ Sales ~ Election Fixing |
Potsnack
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:25:00 -
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Oh behalf of a third party I'll take 1000 shares please.
Isk will be sent by me when I get home from work this evening.
Cheers Pot
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Jerppu
Minmatar Brotherhood of Polar Equation Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:34:00 -
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I'll take 300 shares. Isk will be sent later today.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:09:00 -
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500 shares please. Isk sent. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:50:00 -
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Ah what the hell, put me in for 600 shares.
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Tarash Awin
Minmatar Sackville
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:55:00 -
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1000 shares please, money sent.
Tarash Awin - Sackville [SACKE]
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Votee
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:44:00 -
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I would like to take 4000 shares
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Kaisho Stormrider
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:50:00 -
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I'd like to buy a measly 40 shares . Txfer will happen right after DT today.
Thanks
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Taryn Ceridwen
Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:04:00 -
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100 shares for me please. Isk will be transferred after dt.
Many thanks
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Countess Xiao
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:30:00 -
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100 shares please.
ISK sent.
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King Boris
Solitude Board of Tourism
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:41:00 -
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I'll take 500 shares. ISK sent.
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Cabernetter
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:42:00 -
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250 Shares please. ISK to be sent in approx 8 hours (currently at work).
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Rhiraven
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:49:00 -
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I still think this isn't a great idea. It's starting a little late. But if Shar didn't have some inside information, I don't think he'd be so gung-ho about it, and I value his opinion.
I'll go in for 100 shares. Isk sent!
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Dohkar
Amarr Statler and Waldorf LLC
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Posted - 2007.10.17 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dohkar on 17/10/2007 13:41:47 Edited by: Dohkar on 17/10/2007 13:41:28 I'd like 600. Money arriving shortly.
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Martosh Toma
Gallente Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2007.10.17 13:47:00 -
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I will take a 1000
isk sent
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Rhiraven I still think this isn't a great idea. It's starting a little late.
The timeliness is one of the major concerns at the moment which may explain why I decided to give this project it's "rebirth" so to speak. Originally by: Rhiraven But if Shar didn't have some inside information, I don't think he'd be so gung-ho about it, and I value his opinion.
Nope, no inside info here. I don't work in those circles nor have I ever wanted to be there. Not that I'm against having an edge but I much prefer beating the stuffing out of people on an even battlefield. Originally by: Shadarle So, is there a max per person? I really am quite tired right now and don't believe I saw it, but it could be there.
My previous projects tried spreading the opportunity around a bit. Hubris of a sort actually... the desire to connect, and thus touch, as many people as possible at one time. There was also the ideological drive behind that as well. I wanted to try to keep the isk I worked with as clean as possible and working with shares eliminates that kind of control. (Even though with the use of alts my previous efforts were probably just as futile.) I'm pleased, more like shocked, with the response though mind you. There's a few dogs in this project that I'm surprised has not barked yet. Oh well, I probably borrowed enough trouble just by saying that.
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Leya Marcsson
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Leya Marcsson on 17/10/2007 14:44:44 Do you buy back the shares after the goal of this IPO is reached?
edit: Ah, I see: "Upon liquidation of all assets the corporation will distribute the ISK and cease to function."
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Jocca Quinn
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:43:00 -
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I'll have in this I think
500 shares please.
Isk sent.
Good luck to us all.
JQ
none of us are free as long as one of us is chained none of us are free |
Bringing Sexyback
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:44:00 -
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I would love to take a measly 38 shares. Cash fundage problems atm :)
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Dealema
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:48:00 -
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i would like 100 shares. ISK being sent presently.
Good luck to us all
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Leya Marcsson Do you buy back the shares after the goal of this IPO is reached?
This is one of the areas that hasn't been explored yet, by the community, but share buy back is, imho, the only way to properly ensure maximum ROI/shared risk for investors. To explain: This is very much a speculative hedge type of fund. Once the go point is reached (and it has in reservations so far) the fund will initiate phase one. Once that is complete, it will go dormant. The length of time is really unspecified and can only be guessed on. Then, once the new patch hits it'll reactivate and try to profit. A monthly dividend under these circumstances would be grossly misleading. Not to mention artificially supported. (Not that any of you might care truth be told.) So reporting of project asset values is going to be key to determining a fair "current" share price. And what is the point of determining a fair share price if we are not willing to back it up by setting that as the standard for which we'll, Benvie & I, buy back the shares. I hope that suitably answers your question. Have more just ask. I've got no problem throwing tons of text at them.
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:02:00 -
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And please, please, please make sure you understand what you are investing in.
Allot of you I know, or know me, fairly well so the warning is not needed. But I seriously don't need investors who are not clear on what they are getting into. I'm not nice, I'm anti-warm & fuzzy. So, please, please, please understand what you are getting into as you run the risk of getting your head bit off if you don't.
Not that I'm all that short-tempered but my precocious level of text-based hostility is legendary. Be smart, don't be-prove the legends.
It's A GIRL!!!!! |
Sir Artus
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:39:00 -
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I would like to take 500 shares pls.
Isk will be sent to you directly after this post.
Thanks
Sir Artus
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