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Selene Bork
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:39:00 -
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Selene runs in terror at the thought of new t2 bpo's
Seriously I love invention, you actually have to work to make isk ... wow original concept
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Iyanah
Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Iyanah
invention needs alot of work to fix in order to make it viable, but it's still better than the t2 lottery of old which caters only for the rich to get richer since the same handfull of people get or buy all the BPOs
/fixed
ty. though of course buying something results in them getting it ========================================== Iy
please remember: I AM a sarcastic ******* and nothing i say has ever represented the thoughts or feelings of my corp, alliance, or anyone really. read |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.08 09:56:00 -
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Lottery is dead!
SWA PVP |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.08 15:57:00 -
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Yet I demand we get those ships ALSO via T2 BPO lottery! CCP, get to it now!
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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permion
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Posted - 2007.10.08 16:17:00 -
[35]
add to exploration sites.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.08 16:20:00 -
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The only problem with luck is that people like Kuolematon stolez it all when it was handed out back in the day
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:54:00 -
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Hm... i'm wondering how many people have 200k + points in starship engineering these days
I would cry for joy if i won one of them T2 bs bpo's but it's not gonna happen and i think it's better this way, invention is the way to go, atleast now everybody can get their hands on T2 stuff, u just have to work for it.
Still though.. winning one of those... a definite 'u win EVE' moment CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase The only thing I think iffey is the situation for ships where there are 2 T2 variants. Like the new heavy interdictors soon. Ship invention is dicey already, now you want to cut dicey in half as well ?
Directed invention seems like a good feature they need to introduce.
Yeah I am sure you will cry if you get a deimos instead ---------------------------------
Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home. |
Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Still though.. winning one of those... a definite 'u win EVE' moment
Until one realize that its only about 100m or so per day because inventors drove down the price to their break even point. Then one whines for invention nerfs. Then people laugh at said one because they made about 100m per day running alt farms for Datacores or farming other invention components.
By the way, i hear its extremely easy to make more in cores per day then a cerb BPO owner could possibly hope for earning by producing cerbs...
Anyway, i am all for a stealth t2 BS BPO seed. All 10.000 of them per race per type. Watching Want-to-be greedy people fight 0.1 ISK wars over the 300k profit margin would be extremely funny. Everyone should get what he wishes for, after all ...
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:31:00 -
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The odd thing is that the OP wants CCP not to cave in to whiners.
And then also wants CCP to change the plan, and produce t2 bpo's on the lottery again. IE a whine.
Some people are a bit confused.
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Si Raven
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Please.. don't be stupid CCP and cave under whiners.
QFT!
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord The odd thing is that the OP wants CCP not to cave in to whiners.
And then also wants CCP to change the plan, and produce t2 bpo's on the lottery again. IE a whine.
Some people are a bit confused.
chock full of vitamin win
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
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Zephite
Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:36:00 -
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I pity the people buying t2 bs's if ccp doesn't release bpo's in some form. The prices will be staggering, could even rival capital ships
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:43:00 -
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the lottery is dead and gone
deal with it
as for not having bpo's bringing the price up, how do you figure? a bpo would just mean that the bpo holder could charge the same price as the inventors, giving him a bigger margin
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zephite I pity the people buying t2 bs's if ccp doesn't release bpo's in some form. The prices will be staggering, could even rival capital ships
Just some reminder to those who actually take this thread seriously:
If there is sufficient demand for an item (case in point: there is NOT sufficient demand for small smartbombs ...), then the amount of BPOs in the system doesnt matter, providing invention exists.
The price of the item will always be cost_of_invention + margin. Where margin tends to be pretty small after a while. See t1 production margins from 2003 to now as reference.
No t2 item will sell under invention cost (remember we assume significant demand). If the BPO owners arent greedy, resellers are. If there isnt enough demand to drive an item's price to invention cost, why are you considering seeding BPOS?
/end serious mode
I have 200k Quantum RP, please seed Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger BPO !!!
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: Jinx Barker Absolutely.... cave in!
I have 3.5 Million RP and climbing... daddy needs a new pair of EVERYTHING!
You need a new pair of balls??
(Hey... you DID say EVERYTHING)
Thread winner. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI |
Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: Jinx Barker Absolutely.... cave in!
I have 3.5 Million RP and climbing... daddy needs a new pair of EVERYTHING!
You need a new pair of balls??
(Hey... you DID say EVERYTHING)
Thread winner.
Crap, now this Jingle-Balls thing is gonna haunt me... I demand a T2 BS BPO, to make me feel better, and to compensate for the Jingle-balls thing.
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Please.. don't be stupid CCP and cave under whiners. Release T2 BPO's of new ships as you have done previously: via lottery.
Please? I just want to hit that jackpot AGAIN!
Invention has not hurt T2 BPO owners to any great degree, but I am forced to agree with you. Keep the lottery for the limited quantities of T2 BPOs as was used in the past.
Why?
Invention, that's why. You can't research the resulting BPC, meaning that every single new T2 item will always have a guranteed minimum ME of -4. No research possible, no reduction in production costs, so new T2 content will reach a baseprice within months that will pretty much eliminate profits for the inventor as the macro scum reaching parity ratio even now grows further to macro-invent.
Currently ship & module invention has reached a market ratio that provides inventors with survivable profits, and keeps the BPO owners happy with a fixed 200+% margin over inventors.
So... issue out the same quantities of BPOs that have always been offered in the past, using the old system (or even double the BPO numbers, whatever).
Or provide BPC research.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Stellar Vix Lottery is dead!
Yeah, but they thought Freddy Kruger and Jason Voorhees were dead several times too, and yet they came back
....usually though, this was BAD for a lot of people.....
While I'd like a shiny T2 BPO (I haven't cashed in my points), it's probably best not to bring any more into the game. I'm of two minds though. There are parts of EVE that benefits from having super-rich players financing stuff.....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.09 06:01:00 -
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So we can all agree that bring back old lottery and seed those shiny T2 BPO's, yes? kthxbai! ^______^
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Valrandir
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.09 15:28:00 -
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All the BPO shall belong to me, case closed.
-------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware - Oveur
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Kayosoni
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.09 15:46:00 -
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all t2 bpos should be seeded, and 1 new one of each should be released at regular intervals. (once or twice a month) -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 15:51:00 -
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/facepalm CCP will probably not reseed T2 BS BPO, whining won't save you ----------------------------------------------- "1, 2, 3, shuttle reprocessing is right for me" |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:35:00 -
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Well, T2 BPO's now? Giev?
On the serious note, this is "MUST" for EVE.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:39:00 -
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Invention only . who knows what will be needed for T3 -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
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Xtreem
Gallente Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:46:00 -
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i think its unfair to release the others via the lottery then change it to invention.
they need to release via lottery, although a lower number than usual and the rest via invention, keeps its level then
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Ariadiana
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:45:00 -
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Thumbs up for a lottery and Invention!
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2007.10.12 11:54:00 -
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I agree...
... or make the invention turn out BPCs with better than -4 (or worse) ME/PE.
That, or make the BPCs researchable.
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