The Goons has scammed for years and years with their recruitment...

Many threads on the subject. But as always go with ones gut feeling and if it's too good to be true then it usually is - as such do some research, a simple search on the forum would probably reveal their intentions.

/c

Post pilot names or it didn't happen. BTW - helluva lot of money for a new player....

1/10 for now...

I'll get to the bottom of this and ensure that your ISK is returned or the offending members expelled for sullying the reputation of our honourable spaceship corporation!

Care to name some names? I'm one of the recruitment officers for Bat Country in Goonswarm, and we don't tolerate this kind of behavior from our members.

Care to name some names? I'm one of the recruitment officers for Bat Country in Goonswarm, and we don't tolerate this kind of behavior from our members.

I am not out to publically name and shame people.

So then why did you make this thread in General Discussion? Also, give me names, or it didn't happen and I'm not bothering to look into it.

Well if you do great, but after my dealings with your corp so far, you'll forgive me if I dont hold my breath!

Sorry but he is trolling you.

I tried to join a corp once, they also demanded full API access and upload my character to a public website. When I had done so, they raised the skillpoint-requirements for their corp, in fact they did it 3 times while their recruiter was processing my application. After that a lot more bureaucracy came with requests to tell them the dates my API keys were created, then that I should fill every empty character slot... and then I withdrew the application.

The valuable lesson was, do not trust anyone, even the minimum trust to give them a API key is too much and never ever pay fees, security deposits or anything. If they are not happy to have you with them, then you have already wasted your own time.

Full API keys are an entirely valid piece of information to request from someone who wants to join your corporation.

Or perhaps you haven't dealt with lazy thieves before...

Full Access API Key
Allows access to all your character information available in the API, including wallet and market information, and your corporation's information as well. Please be careful about who you give this key to. See below for more information.


What is an API key? What do I use it for?

The API key is a private code that identifies your account. Combined with your user ID, this key allows third party programs and web sites to access information about your characters and corporations. Using this data, such utilities can improve your EVE experience by providing useful functionality such as wallet exports, skill training notifications, and other tools.

Is this safe? Can someone steal my account?

It is safe to provide your user ID and API key to applications and web sites as long as you are prepared to allow the application or web site to see your character and corporation information.

Sharing your API key, full or limited, does NOT give people access to your account. Sharing your account password would. The API key only allows the recipient to view your character and corporation data but gives them NO control over it. They are NOT able to log in to the game or post on the forums with the API information. The API key is in no way generated from your account password - there is no way to calculate your password using this information.

This is the only safe way to give programs and web sites access to your data. Do not give out your account username or password to any person, program, or web site. Please keep in mind that doing so is a violation of the EULA and can lead to account termination.

I still don't like it.

If you are not certain that the web site or program asking for your API key is safe, please do not give it to them! You are responsible for any usage of the information obtained by using your personal API key.

I gave someone my API key and now I want them to stop using it!

If you believe that someone is misusing your API key, you can create a new one with the buttons above. Please note that all programs and web sites that are using your old API key will no longer be able to access your data unless you provide them with the new API key.

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I am not out to publically name and shame people. If you genuinely are interested please Eve mail me and I'll send them to you later when I am able to access my home PC again.

I never understand why people decide to hide names and any details which can really help someone to evade the problem.....

Would you give your reason why those guys who scamed you can continue freely?

Perhaps some research into it before jumping-in should have been done ?

o/

Most definitely, and that is the point of my warning in this thread, look before you leap!

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If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.

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People are ********.

That is all.

You mention alarm bells 4 times in your post yet not once did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe the whole thing reeked of scam?

What do you do when the fire alarm goes off, keep sitting there till the flames envelop you?

...where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions.

This kind of thing is why I just have no sympathy for the game or it's player base anymore, it's usually the case in communities that there's a small group of douchebags that go around causing trouble for everyone but in this case it seems to be the other way round where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions.

OP, no decent corporation will ever demand money for joining since it costs nothing to bring people in, they may tax you after joining but that's about it, next time, go with your gut instead of listening to a scammer trying to reason with you.

I agree. It has to do with what CCP defines as "hardcore" which is just CCP sanctioned griefing. This game has so much potential but there is a fly in the ointment and CCP refuses to see that EVE currently caters to "douchbags" most of all...which takes away from the game as a whole.

Hey look, actions have consequences. Nice work passing the buck for your own actions and expecting CCP to nursemaid you through every decision you make with your life. Do you cry to them when you lose your pew pew ship to rats? Do you open up a thousand petitions when you can't fit your ship correctly?

It's almost like CCP gives you the opportunity to think and play for yourself without holding your hand at every single opportunity. There are many more of us who prefer it this way. We all lose things and we all learn from them. It's called being an adult.

Actions have consequences.

Apart from which, you should only ever give out your LIMITED API details. Full API is a big no-no. Big red flag should pop-up in your mind if you see a requirement for your Full API. Good thing you saw that part of it.

Full API for null sec corps is standard.

Care to name some names? I'm one of the recruitment officers for Bat Country in Goonswarm, and we don't tolerate this kind of behavior from our members.

Stop posting as you make Goons look worse than they are

How the hell can I do that, they seem to excell at that on their own!

Perhaps you are not as bright as I first thought you were. Did you look at who I was quoting?

Lets see: When googleing "joining Goons", the very first result that comes up is this... hell, they even tell you that you will be scammed if you send ISK.

Hey look, actions have consequences. Nice work passing the buck for your own actions and expecting CCP to nursemaid you through every decision you make with your life.

and earn ISK the way everyone else has to.

Nobody forces you to make your ISK through stupid missions or whatever.

OK fair enough you think missions are stupid, there are plenty of other legitimate ways to earn isk even pirating is a trade that some people cant be bothered to learn properly these days!

so pirating is ok but getting isk donated is not?

BTW: as recruiter i request full API too. This doesn't mean i will scam or something. But no one wants to have strangers in corp. Hiding full API is a first sign that person will not be good and open member.... Most likely.

Well if you do great, but after my dealings with your corp so far, you'll forgive me if I dont hold my breath!

I just don't understand the appeal that makes this scam possible...

I am not out to publically name and shame people. If you genuinely are interested please Eve mail me and I'll send them to you later when I am able to access my home PC again.

I agree. It has to do with what CCP defines as "hardcore" which is just CCP sanctioned griefing. This game has so much potential but there is a fly in the ointment and CCP refuses to see that EVE currently caters to "douchbags" most of all...which takes away from the game as a whole.

Every time I read a post like this I laugh a little.

Scam in EVE function like scams IRL.

CCP promotes this kind of bewaver, and it has been this way for a long time, I remember watching CCP devs answering questions at Fanfest (a couple years back) and in all there interventions they always incite to this kind of pathetic attitudes and actions.

Having said that... It is our choice to play the game, CCP is not forcing anyone to play there game, it is just a shame that they could have a much greater player base if they removed some of this crap...

This ofc is IMHO.

The game is what we make of it. Incarna proved that. If enough noi$e is made for change...there will be change.

The game is what we make of it. Incarna proved that. If enough noi$e is made for change...there will be change.

No it isn't, it's a poorly designed and imbalanced wannabe sandbox game of rock/paper/scissors with about as much depth and intrigue as a **** film and that's actually insulting to ****, they at least give me boobs to stare at.

Difference being, IRL there is a police force you can go to to rectify the situation.
There is none in EVE.

how people have >b isk and get recruitment scammed... by goons?

nah go back to wow

I am shocked an appalled at the allegations that Goons could be anything other than the most honorable of spaceship warriors.

CCP promotes this kind of bewaver, and it has been this way for a long time, I remember watching CCP devs answering questions at Fanfest (a couple years back) and in all there interventions they always incite to this kind of pathetic attitudes and actions.

Having said that... It is our choice to play the game, CCP is not forcing anyone to play there game, it is just a shame that they could have a much greater player base if they removed some of this crap...

This ofc is IMHO.

The only thing you need to know about Goons is that if they learn a real life friend or relative of yours has died in real life, they will mock the real life death.

I can assure you it did happen or else I wouldnt be here....

That is exactly what a Goon-alt troll would say

I'm glad to hear a new player has what, a billion and a half in ISK? A billion? That is pretty damn impressive. You are new, aren't you? Otherwise, why would you fall for a Goon recruitment scam when, after the Jita PLEX scams, it is one of the best known scams in EVE Online.

After all, the recruitment page on their website tells you that it is a scam. It's not like they're trying to hide it from you.

$35 gets you what, 900m? Don't be too surprised.

Actually, checked the employment history. The player is not new; was employed by the University of Caile on 2008.03.16 22:06. I'm not sure how you can miss that Goons are a recruitment scam in nearly 4 years of playing

OK fair enough you think missions are stupid, there are plenty of other legitimate ways to earn isk even pirating is a trade that some people cant be bothered to learn properly these days!

I was looking for a new corp (and I still am thanks to these three jokers!) I was approached by a member of Goonwaffe and asked if I would like to join their corp, after submitting an application through their website into which it DEMANDED a full API key (First alarm bell) I was then interviewed and asked for a security deposit of 400 mil isk (Second Alarm bell) - which I paid. I was then approached by this guys 'supervisor' and re-interviewed as 400 mil was the 'mates rates' for joining and he demanded a further billion isk (Alarm bells and sirens are going off at this point) but I thought "I get it back in 30 days.... dont I?" so paid it. At this point a third person gets involved "Head of Internal Affairs" for Goonwaffe and I am interviewed for a third time and guess what he re-calculates my security deposit to be 60% of what I own.... at this point I turn round and say no (I know I should have done this sooner but rose tinted spectacles were blinding me) and unsurprisingly I was unable to recover any of the isk paid already.

Morale of the story: Do NOT follow any recruitment practises outside of the games mechanics, any corps that ask you to do so are NOT worth joining. They are lying cheating scamming ne'er do wells!

Were you approached through recruitment channel? If so, it might be worth a petition. It ain't allowed.

Btw: Others may have said it but Goons WILL scam, they will NOT refund and the "horror" and "indignation" is BS.

Joining goons: Prove you can troll eve.

train covert ops bombers

Train bomb launchers.

Scribble resume on bomb in crayon

find goonswarm blob

Fire.

They will receive your resume and act upon it post haste.

Enjoy the fruits of your victory.

I was looking for a new corp (and I still am thanks to these three jokers!) I was approached by a member of Goonwaffe and asked if I would like to join their corp, after submitting an application through their website into which it DEMANDED a full API key (First alarm bell)

There's a link on the Something Awful forums to the full and proper process for applying to Goonswarm. Any deviation from that established process and you're simply asking to be scammed. You first have to be a paying member on SA Forums as well, just btw.

There is no other way, it's via the SA forums or nothing, unless The Mittens himself holds your hand through the process.

I know, I've read through it several times, there is no way you should be scammed the way you have been if you had followed the proper recruitment procedure. Perhaps some research into it before jumping-in should have been done ?

o/

snot shot's been trying to get into goonwaffe that way, it hasn't worked ((

Got a 20 on that Aspergers test; guess I'm not fit for the Goonswarm Offensive Logistics.

..that's a joke by btw. Honestly, $9.95 just to register for the forums, and the Goons want people to pay online with CC or something. Yeah, right; like I'd do that.

Got a 20 on that Aspergers test; guess I'm not fit for the Goonswarm Offensive Logistics.

..that's a joke by btw. Honestly, $9.95 just to register for the forums, and the Goons want people to pay online with CC or something. Yeah, right; like I'd do that.

With a name like snot shot? I do understand that GSF has standards.

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both of these are mains (or spies w/e)

because everyone in something awful, a forum with 160,000 registered users, plays eve online

I take it that's the excuse to charge 9.95, potentially +9.95 for platinum membership for a total of ~$20 to be a forum member. I understand exclusivity of the forums, but $20? Let's see: 160,000*min. $9.95 = $1'592'000.00 = Someone is getting rich of you poor saps.

I smell troll:

ISK 1.4bn is an awful lot of money for a true beginner in this game

that's two game time codes or four plex. Even a newbie can find the stuff for that while setting up an EVE account on the main site.

On the 4 PLEX thing; good point - it's only what - $80? Quite feasible; but then they'd have to know how the market works, how much PLEX are selling for, what PLEX are (And there are players that have played a long time that doesn't understand where a PLEX comes from ... )

Fortunately the OP has been active since early 2008? So definitely not a newbie, just blind to New Eden. Or maybe just logged in for the first time in 4 years yesterday.

Every time i see a recruiter for a corp ask for a interview and full api i die a little on the inside.

I take it that's the excuse to charge 9.95, potentially +9.95 for platinum membership for a total of ~$20 to be a forum member. I understand exclusivity of the forums, but $20? Let's see: 160,000*min. $9.95 = $1'592'000.00 = Someone is getting rich of you poor saps.

that's two game time codes or four plex. Even a newbie can find the stuff for that while setting up an EVE account on the main site.

I take it that's the excuse to charge 9.95, potentially +9.95 for platinum membership for a total of ~$20 to be a forum member. I understand exclusivity of the forums, but $20? Let's see: 160,000*min. $9.95 = $1'592'000.00 = Someone is getting rich of you poor saps.

Any idiot can register for Something Awful (which it's a good deal anyways. Paying to be in a community with less idiots. Then again that's not true).

ARISE DEAD THREAD! ARISE!