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Twisted Girl
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.24 09:41:00 -
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Travasty Space wrote:Why not just drop the damage bonus of titans (20-40% per level range) and give them % per level bonuses to fleet racial E-war and add role bonus of using capital e-war mods(with the modules themselves having limits like cloaking devices as to the number that can be fit) as well as being able to 'pierce' the E-war immunity of other supercaps?
So something like this changes highlighted:
Ragnarok:
Minmatar Titan Skill Bonuses: 35% bonus to Capital Projectile Turret damage per level 10% bonus to gang members' webifiers' range per level 5% bonus to gang members' target painters' effectiveness per level 7.5% reduction in gang membersGÇÖ signature radius per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can fit Gjallarhorn Super Weapon Can fit Jump Portal Generator Can fit Clone Vat Bay Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
Role Bonuses: Can fit Capital webifiers. Target painters can pierce Super-Capital Electronic Warfare immunity.
And then mirror this onto the other titans with their racial E-war. The cap e-war mods would need some work themselves, maybe for the capital webs -60% velocity but POS web range so like 150km, scram and point would likely be similar to that and the capital neut would have to be around capital energy xfer for amount neut'd and cycle time like 30-40 seconds. Now for the Levi and it's capital ecm mod I'd say have it 100% jam for half to two thirds of its total cycle time, say jams for 20 seconds but has a cycle time for 30.
they alrdy got gang bonuses, ragnarok got sig bonus, erebus armor % bonus, avatar cap bonus and levi shield hp bonus. Im not sure why you would wanna change that as they are all(besides maybe rags bonus) more usefull than any EW bonus. Also most people doesnt have issue witn titan dps at all, just the tracking, tho in all honesty most of the "blapping" is a mix of webbed/painter targets and bad piloting, you could get a lot of the similar results using dreads so vov. |
Travasty Space
Bugger War
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 10:07:00 -
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Twisted Girl wrote:Travasty Space wrote:Why not just drop the damage bonus of titans (20-40% per level range) and give them % per level bonuses to fleet racial E-war and add role bonus of using capital e-war mods(with the modules themselves having limits like cloaking devices as to the number that can be fit) as well as being able to 'pierce' the E-war immunity of other supercaps?
So something like this changes highlighted:
Ragnarok:
Minmatar Titan Skill Bonuses: 35% bonus to Capital Projectile Turret damage per level 10% bonus to gang members' webifiers' range per level 5% bonus to gang members' target painters' effectiveness per level 7.5% reduction in gang membersGÇÖ signature radius per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can fit Gjallarhorn Super Weapon Can fit Jump Portal Generator Can fit Clone Vat Bay Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
Role Bonuses: Can fit Capital webifiers. Target painters can pierce Super-Capital Electronic Warfare immunity.
And then mirror this onto the other titans with their racial E-war. The cap e-war mods would need some work themselves, maybe for the capital webs -60% velocity but POS web range so like 150km, scram and point would likely be similar to that and the capital neut would have to be around capital energy xfer for amount neut'd and cycle time like 30-40 seconds. Now for the Levi and it's capital ecm mod I'd say have it 100% jam for half to two thirds of its total cycle time, say jams for 20 seconds but has a cycle time for 30. they alrdy got gang bonuses, ragnarok got sig bonus, erebus armor % bonus, avatar cap bonus and levi shield hp bonus. Im not sure why you would wanna change that as they are all(besides maybe rags bonus) more usefull than any EW bonus. Also most people doesnt have issue witn titan dps at all, just the tracking, tho in all honesty most of the "blapping" is a mix of webbed/painter targets and bad piloting, you could get a lot of the similar results using dreads so vov.
I'm not saying drop those bonuses, I'm saying on top of those bonuses, and due to how tracking/opt range/fall-off affect DPS this reduces the "blapping" while adding methods of increasing real DPS(Rag bonused TPs and web on it, though maybe 60% web a bit much, maybe drop it to 30-40%) a bet likely still having a bit less real dps after and increasing the overall effect of titans on the field around them. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1123
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:10:00 -
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Nicole KholdStare wrote:Some kind of upkeep that has to be paid per supercap, preferrably scaled so that the more you have the more you pay for individual ones?
Based on what, what corp you're in? Balancing anything by cost just doesn't work. |
Sernum
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2012.02.25 18:00:00 -
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Why you all want to make game rock paper scissors shoot; just b/c you have no big super cap blobs |
queen1121
Empire Dreams
0
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Posted - 2012.03.09 14:00:00 -
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Chuck Norris would be the only correct answer to question :) |
Silence iKillYouu
The Innocent Criminals Late Night Alliance
142
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Posted - 2012.03.10 02:06:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:cynojammer?
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
Kyr Evotorin
Psycho Tech Industries Interstellar Hobos
1
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Posted - 2012.03.11 21:23:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:cynojammer?
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Ikra Atarm
Noir. Academy Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.03.21 21:04:00 -
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An FW fleet yes PL I went their |
Jonathan Jax
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the ISK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.21 22:02:00 -
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I'm not going to read the 4 pages of peanut gallery comments. Just divide your enemy and counter their much smaller split numbers. |
Tinu Moorhsum
Royal Scientific Research Enterprise
83
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Posted - 2012.03.21 23:30:00 -
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Thea Siirian wrote:
It seems they've answered all the questions except the really important one. OK, we're here. We win. Now what?
This is exactly how I feel about it too. The problem stems from one simple fact. They are created in much larger numbers than they can possibly be destroyed.
Even if you can pick them off in ones and twos it's still just pissing on a forest fire unless CCP does something to create a realistic counter for them.
T- |
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ceyriot
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
3
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Posted - 2012.03.24 04:37:00 -
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Robur Carolinum wrote:101 titans and 156 motherships. Confirming the way to beat lag....is with MOAR lag.
If you can't beat em, join em....
Not Flyinghotpocket's alt. At all. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
39
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Posted - 2012.04.09 19:01:00 -
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Simple go the way of T3.
Lose a supercap/cap lose a skill level. Make them much more difficult and time consuming to build.
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Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
48
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Posted - 2012.04.09 19:39:00 -
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Dreadnoughts. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.04.10 17:16:00 -
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Katalci wrote:Dreadnoughts.
you'd have to drop enough to crash the node, otherwise you'll lose them all before they even lock a single titan |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:05:00 -
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A cleverly designed computer virus uploaded into the server that wipes out all data relating to Cap Ships in game? |
Ikeo58
Vermis foramen Industrius Union 0f Revolution
4
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:10:00 -
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Downtime |
Mythradites
ExoGeni Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:12:00 -
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Counter to the blob is a bigger blob. Always has been. Why bother even asking a question you already know the answer to. |
Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
32
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:24:00 -
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A cultural revolution is the only effective counter...
with a handful of rifters In pace requiescat |
Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
51
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:14:00 -
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Mythradites wrote:Counter to the blob is a bigger blob. Always has been. Why bother even asking a question you already know the answer to. Only to the uncreative. |
qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
8
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Posted - 2012.04.16 21:51:00 -
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Mythradites wrote:Counter to the blob is a bigger blob. Always has been. Why bother even asking a question you already know the answer to.
Counter to 1500 battle cruisers is 2 flights of bombers. |
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Mr Morita
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
16
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:56:00 -
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A drone compound nerf. |
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
42
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Posted - 2012.04.17 12:16:00 -
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matarkhan wrote:What counters 100 titans and 155 moms?
Attack at 256 places at once.
Twisted Girl wrote: , tho in all honesty most of the "blapping" is a mix of webbed/painter targets and bad piloting, you could get a lot of the similar results using dreads so vov.
No, you can not. Try drive by "blapping" with dreads and you just lose those dreads. Dreads lack the tank to this kind of stuff and they lack the mobility. |
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