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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7 I don't see that happening, ever.
Mutually Assured Destruction.
If a major western city gets hit by a nuke from Al-Qaeda fanatics, they know we will genocide their whole race.
As it is now, the only thing keeping Afghanistan and Iraq from extermination is our own measured response.
Honestly after 9/11 they could have saved themselves a lot of trouble by simply carpet-bombing a major Saudi Arabian city. Just take Riyadh and hammer it with B52's, kill 300,000 people and then broadcast a message to the Middle East "Now we're even."
They should get the message real quick.
The above crap that just rolled out of Ciphers mouth is why no one respects the Americans, they seem to think that they were somehow the ones wrong in the 9/11 incidents. Someone give this child a history book and show him just how many times and in how many ways his society has ****** the world for their own goals.
If I were you Cipher, I'd praise whatever god you believe in that they were as gentle as they were with you, because your nation deserves far worse for its crimes. I'll leave you with this little gem: who trained the people that trained those pilots? Oops, they were suppose to do this to the Russians, right?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:38:00 -
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This nonsense is why politics are not allowed here. Please lock this thread, someone.
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DarkMatter
Sintered Sanity
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Posted - 2007.07.31 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 31/07/2007 00:56:47
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Cipher7 I don't see that happening, ever.
Mutually Assured Destruction.
If a major western city gets hit by a nuke from Al-Qaeda fanatics, they know we will genocide their whole race.
As it is now, the only thing keeping Afghanistan and Iraq from extermination is our own measured response.
Honestly after 9/11 they could have saved themselves a lot of trouble by simply carpet-bombing a major Saudi Arabian city. Just take Riyadh and hammer it with B52's, kill 300,000 people and then broadcast a message to the Middle East "Now we're even."
They should get the message real quick.
The above crap that just rolled out of Ciphers mouth is why no one respects the Americans, they seem to think that they were somehow the ones wrong in the 9/11 incidents. Someone give this child a history book and show him just how many times and in how many ways his society has ****** the world for their own goals.
If I were you Cipher, I'd praise whatever god you believe in that they were as gentle as they were with you, because your nation deserves far worse for its crimes. I'll leave you with this little gem: who trained the people that trained those pilots? Oops, they were suppose to do this to the Russians, right?
Wow, you really hate your neighbor to the south eh?
We have done no worse than any other nation or empire of the world that has been on top. (Your beloved motherland was far worse than us) Those that came before us used people and nations in far more disturbing ways than we have...
This is why a world government will not work, not for thousands of years. There are many more entities who will want their reign at the top before that happens...
We're humans, where the game king of the mountain still means what it did 10,000 years ago...
But, it would be interesting to see the US flip out over an attack... I guess we'll find out when we lose millions instead of 3000...
Building the homestead
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Hudson on 31/07/2007 01:02:24 95% of the worlds problems stem from this!
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter Wow, you really hate your neighbor to the south eh?
You people leave much to be desired.
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We have done no worse than any other nation or empire of the world that has been on top. (Your beloved motherland was far worse than us) Those that came before us used people and nations in far more disturbing ways than we have...
No, actually, your nation is pretty much neck and neck doing bad **** when compared to more quote unquote "bad" nations. Tell me now, how long have those terror suspects been at Guantanimo? All you need is a gas chamber installed and you have a certifible concentration camp my friend.
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This is why a world government will not work, not for thousands of years. There are many more entities who will want their reign at the top before that happens...
Quite to the contrary, a world government would end this secularian bull****. No one would be more important than the other, and we'd do away with this joke of a concept called democracy. The notion of choice is all one needs to think they are free, but truly, we are as oppressed as any other citizenry of dictatorships past; all we do is hide it better.
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We're humans, where the game king of the mountain still means what it did 10,000 years ago...
Such is why people need controls, and not encouraged to form tribalistic notions of one people being greater than another. The amount of DNA involved in the differences between the so called races is so infinitismal that any concept of one over the other is negligible.
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But, it would be interesting to see the US flip out over an attack... I guess we'll find out when we lose millions instead of 3000...
Your nation will not "flip out", because quite frankly, they are a wounded buck amongst the wolves. You're segregated from all your self-proclaimed enemies, and while you have shown yourselves adept at attacking poorly equiped and poorly led foreign armies, you fold like wet paper sacks when it comes to holding onto what you just bombed to hell and back. You did it in Korea, you did it in Vietnam and now you're doing it in Iraq. You'd think that it would have sunk in by now.
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Calderio
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:24:00 -
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much tinfoil hattery in this thread there is.
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DarkMatter
Sintered Sanity
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Posted - 2007.07.31 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 31/07/2007 01:53:19
Quote: you fold like wet paper sacks when it comes to holding onto what you just bombed to hell and back. You did it in Korea, you did it in Vietnam and now you're doing it in Iraq. You'd think that it would have sunk in by now.
Exactly, letĘs see what happens when we no longer care to hold on to them, just kill like the Islamic extremists do... I bet we could be very very good at that... That's the easy part...
And I'd like to see how Canada would deal with the situation if they were in our shoes...
It's easy for meaningless nations like yours to sit on the sidelines & b!tch... Does anyone honestly take your country seriously? Nope...
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
If I were you Cipher, I'd praise whatever god you believe in that they were as gentle as they were with you, because your nation deserves far worse for its crimes.
Oh boohoo the poor world, we've been "exploiting it."
As if every country doesn't do the same exact thing, as if the UK doesn't do the same thing on a smaller scale, as if France doesn't have colonies, as if China isn't trying to bully Taiwan into rejoining, as if the Arabs aren't trying to kill Israelis to have more land even though they already control %99.999 of the Middle East.
Yeah everybody's clean except us. As if we're more horrible than the other 6 billion scumbags on this planet.
People by default are NOT nice, they want what's best for themselves at the expense of everybody else.
Victims of exploitation would gladly become the exploiter if they only had a chance.
If the shoe was on the other foot, it would be Europeans being sent to Africa as slaves.
Just because someone nailed you before you nailed them doesn't make you evil.
I don't consider Al-Qaeda "evil" because I don't believe in Evil as a concept.
They have their interests, the Western World has ours.
Go ahead, do your worst, Al-Qaeda sympathizer, lets see who wins. You should thank Allah we haven't exterminated your kind yet as you deserve.
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
If I were you Cipher, I'd praise whatever god you believe in that they were as gentle as they were with you, because your nation deserves far worse for its crimes.
Oh boohoo the poor world, we've been "exploiting it."
As if every country doesn't do the same exact thing, as if the UK doesn't do the same thing on a smaller scale, as if France doesn't have colonies, as if China isn't trying to bully Taiwan into rejoining, as if the Arabs aren't trying to kill Israelis to have more land even though they already control %99.999 of the Middle East.
Yeah everybody's clean except us. As if we're more horrible than the other 6 billion scumbags on this planet.
People by default are NOT nice, they want what's best for themselves at the expense of everybody else.
Victims of exploitation would gladly become the exploiter if they only had a chance.
If the shoe was on the other foot, it would be Europeans being sent to Africa as slaves.
Just because someone nailed you before you nailed them doesn't make you evil.
I don't consider Al-Qaeda "evil" because I don't believe in Evil as a concept.
They have their interests, the Western World has ours.
Go ahead, do your worst, Al-Qaeda sympathizer, lets see who wins. You should thank Allah we haven't exterminated your kind yet as you deserve.
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:08:00 -
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That guy is from Canada?
All yall do is sit on the side and whine about everything.
Stfu and make me a bacon sandwich before we decide to annex you.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Derovius Vaden on 31/07/2007 02:30:06
Originally by: Captain Hudson
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
I honestly don't think this kid can tell the difference, which is disgusting and of itself.
Originally by: Cipher7
That guy is from Canada?
All yall do is sit on the side and whine about everything.
Stfu and make me a bacon sandwich before we decide to annex you.
I've literally heard the exact same words out of numerous other over zealous children I've pointed out to be flawed in terms of both morality and logic. Do they teach you kids to say this in your schools whenever someone says the US of A is a corrupt gultonous wretch or did you hear on MTV?
I find it quite amusing, especially when you completely fall apart on examination, and boil down to ethnic jokes which, for all intensive purposes, were told to Americans by Canadian comedians. John Candy anyone?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 31/07/2007 02:28:49
Originally by: Cipher7
That guy is from Canada?
All yall do is sit on the side and whine about everything.
Stfu and make me a bacon sandwich before we decide to annex you.
Prime example of the reason for much bitterness, here and around the globe. Also the kind of ignorance that elects geniuses like Bush.
That's fine though. You keep on truckin', Einstein.
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Captain Hudson
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
I honestly don't think this kid can tell the difference, which is disgusting and of itself.
He really can't. Just let it drop.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
That guy is from Canada?
All yall do is sit on the side and whine about everything.
Stfu and make me a bacon sandwich before we decide to annex you.
K, enough with the bull**** plz. I don't agree with all (or, for that matter, most) of what Derovius has said, but Canada has done more than its fair share in the world, considering that we are neither rich nor populous.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Cipher7
That guy is from Canada?
All yall do is sit on the side and whine about everything.
Stfu and make me a bacon sandwich before we decide to annex you.
K, enough with the bull**** plz. I don't agree with all (or, for that matter, most) of what Derovius has said, but Canada has done more than its fair share in the world, considering that we are neither rich nor populous.
Don't take his insults as directed at Canada, but rather at me for insulting his glorious motherland. Imagine what he would be saying if I were French?
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Andicuri Vas
Gallente MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Andicuri Vas
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Culture is just a word, and will mean a completely different thing tomorrow than it did today.
This is by far the stupidest thing I've ever seen written in these forums, or any other for that matter.
News Flash!:
'Sheik Abdulla Rahaman Khalid, Supreme Viceroy of Cultural Enforcement of The North American Union sees Sharia Law as a logical solution to crime and has presented a bill to have it implemented by 2015. Reaction from the other five magnanimous pinheads is positive.'
I happen to like my culture, thank you. If boobs and Paris Hilton is as deep as you can see into it, then you're looking at it from the same depth as those you criticize and demonstrate the same ignorance. I have absolutely nothing against either Canadian or Mexican Culture. I simply do not wish to be forced to assimilate to them. How is this "Hate"?
Like it or not, there is a reason that America attained superpower status in a mere 250 years, and it isn't it's proximity or constitutional imitation of Canada, Mexico or Europe.
Originally by: Derovius Vaden All you tinfoil hate people really need to take a valium or something.
All of you all hold hands and Cumbaya people need to take a history lesson or something.
A V
This xenophobe seems to have confused religion with culture; I'd make the effort of explaining the difference to him, but something tells me he is intent on hating that which is different, even without reason.
Xenophobia Look it up troll. I don't hate, nor do I fear anyone.
Again, I ask why not wanting my own culture diluted by decree make me hateful? If I go to a party at your house, drink all of the booze, sleep with your dog, puke on the carpet, steal your stash, and crash into your car on the way out.......it's all cool because thats how I am right?... No?.... Well, your a Hater.
Name one religion that does not seek to propagate through cultural change, whether globally, or locally. Couldn't any WAY of life be labeled a religion? Even fervent faith in multiculturalism?
I just do not agree with the idea.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black
God, I feel like such a D to tha M shill, considering how often I agree completely with him, but... well, I completely agree with him.
lol.... want to head up my fan club?
Originally by: Amarria Black Whatever. I hate that the Canadians are being dragged into this mess that we've created. I had hoped for an intra-continental haven that I could move to if Hillary wins a presidency. I don't think there's so much difference between Us and Them that a political tethering of the lot of us is bad; to the contrary, I feel that We bring so little to the table that the Canadians should flee in terror.
Well, two things that pop to mind: 1) A greater "interior" market 2) Homogenisation of continental defence
There are a buttload of problems that come with the NAU, but not all is doom and gloom, from a Canadian perspective.
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.31 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Hudson
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
I do not advocate killing all Muslims.
However we're not going to stop killing terrorists no matter how many people die on the other side. Thats on them for mixing in with the civilian population.
But since when do they care about civilians? They kill their own civilians to radicalize them.
Scream human rights abuse. Scream about Guantanamo. Scream to Canada. Scream to Kofi Annan. Scream to Red Cross. Scream to anybody you want, as long as you keep screaming.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Originally by: Captain Hudson
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
I do not advocate killing all Muslims.
However we're not going to stop killing terrorists no matter how many people die on the other side. Thats on them for mixing in with the civilian population.
But since when do they care about civilians? They kill their own civilians to radicalize them.
Scream human rights abuse. Scream about Guantanamo. Scream to Canada. Scream to Kofi Annan. Scream to Red Cross. Scream to anybody you want, as long as you keep screaming.
Believe me, at the rate you Americans are ******* up in Iraq, bombing homes and hospitals and crushing women and children to death, they don't need to incite anyone to join up to fight against you. Oh, as well, I'm sure the Free French Forces were terrorists/insurgents to the ****'s, yes? I wonder how history will judge your nations actions.
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vile56
Nubs. D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Cipher7
Originally by: Captain Hudson
As in Al-qaeda or Muslims in general?
I do not advocate killing all Muslims.
However we're not going to stop killing terrorists no matter how many people die on the other side. Thats on them for mixing in with the civilian population.
But since when do they care about civilians? They kill their own civilians to radicalize them.
Scream human rights abuse. Scream about Guantanamo. Scream to Canada. Scream to Kofi Annan. Scream to Red Cross. Scream to anybody you want, as long as you keep screaming.
Believe me, at the rate SOME Americans are ******* up in Iraq, bombing homes and hospitals and crushing women and children to death, they don't need to incite anyone to join up to fight against you. Oh, as well, I'm sure the Free French Forces were terrorists/insurgents to the ****'s, yes? I wonder how history will judge your nations actions.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:13:00 -
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You should really stop arguing with him Derv.
They don't get much news on the trailer park.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:15:00 -
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Mods, this thread is in need of an EPIC LOCKZOR!
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Frug You should really stop arguing with him Derv.
They don't get much news on the trailer park.
I'm enjoying myself, its not a discussion I can have on here too often you know.
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Krulla
Minmatar True Centii
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:20:00 -
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This thread needs to be stickied and renamed "WHY POLITICS ARE BANNED IN THIS FORUM".
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Believe me, at the rate you Americans are ******* up in Iraq, bombing homes and hospitals and crushing women and children to death, they don't need to incite anyone to join up to fight against you. Oh, as well, I'm sure the Free French Forces were terrorists/insurgents to the ****'s, yes? I wonder how history will judge your nations actions.
You are a Dhimmi.
What did you think was going to happen after 9/11? You thought we would put on a Burka and beg for mercy from your beloved peace-loving Jihadists?
We do not beg mercy from Jihad.
**** history and **** you.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7 What did you think was going to happen after 9/11? You thought we would put on a Burka and beg for mercy from your beloved peace-loving Jihadists?
We do not beg mercy from Jihad.
**** history and **** you.
The guy still thinks iraq was responsible for 9/11
I told you they don't get news on the trailer park.
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ReverendM
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:31:00 -
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Thread Locked. Political discussions are not allowed on the Eve forums. Racist comments will not be tolerated. If you can not say something nice or constructive, please refrain from saying anything at all.
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.31 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
The guy still thinks iraq was responsible for 9/11
9/11 was committed by individuals. Those individuals are dead.
It was planned by other individuals. Those individuals are in hiding.
The Jihadist ideology is espoused by hundreds of thousands of individuals. Some of those individuals live in Iraq. They call themselves various names such as "Al-Qaeda in Iraq" and "The Army of Mohammed."
These are the people who capture foreign aid workers and journalists and film them as they are being beheaded.
These are the people whom you are supporting, people who would gladly chop your fool head off for being an infidel.
Wise up and find your survival instinct.
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