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Corben Ei
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Posted - 2007.07.28 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: ArcticFox Er... Contrary to what some people are saying in this thread, trial account abuse is against the EULA even if you don't delete characters. Character recycling and trial account abuse are two different things, but neither is allowed.
However, since your charge that this was done with trial accounts is based on nothing more than your own speculation, it is entirely possible that they were not on trial accounts. If that's the case and the characters haven't been deleted there's really nothing the GM can do about it, since there's nothing against the rules about simply not logging in.
That is very interesting. Where does it say so? Can you give a link to that?
Now, I base my allegations on the fact, that the accounts were 4 days old on the day of the killing. No sane person would pay for an account before the end of the 14 day trial period. Especially not suicide gankers.
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Corben Ei
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Posted - 2007.07.28 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul That to me means that they build trial character for the sole purpose of circumventing the sec loss. That is an exploit.
My point exactly!
Originally by: Venkul Mul From your words they are players that give a second e-mail address to create a trial account and avoid paying the game while using that account to help the primary account. Again, for me , that is an exploit. If they are players, not people trying the game for the first time, and they want the advantages of using a second account they must pay for it. Cheating to get it for free is an exploit and is cheating CCP.
Quote: victim > you will see killer > no i wont. cause i wont care cause nothing will happen victim > this is my newest character
Again, if that is a quote from your friend, it is clar that he is using the creation of alts and the trial account to circunvent the consequences of high sec ganking.
Exactly! Now, why would he not care? Because he has absolutely nothing to care about. As he states, nothing will happen. It was free lunch. He was on a trial account and couldnt care less.
That has to stop. It is ruining the game.
And yes! That is a transcript of what happened. I can confirm that! And yes, I already know who one of their main alts are. And yes, I will find the rest if CCP does'nt before me.
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Corben Ei
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Posted - 2007.07.28 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker Seems to me that there had been no post if the GMs answer was that an investigation was made and did not prove his assumptions.
I can assure you that I would never have mentioned it then. But no investigation was made. I was brushed off. I believe they simply did not understand my request.
Originally by: Trak Cranker In regards to his allegations, it is completely irellevant what was used on either side. People requesting that are either eager to taunt the loss or has a lack of logical/debate skills. None of which has a place in this thread.
Exactly. There are many completely irelevant comments on this forum, and they are destroying serious discussions.
Originally by: Trak Cranker It seems that the OP is at terms with suicide ganking. But not if done by alts being disposed - and that was his, apperently well researched, assumption.
That assumption might very well be wrong, mind you.
I am at terms with suicide ganking. It is part of the game. That it was on disposed alts is proven by now.
Originally by: Trak Cranker But the GM answer might equally well have done little to assure him that his assumptions had been checked out.
It apparently has not been. My peririon is closed. I have nowhere else to tur but to this forum.
I am sorry for the inconveniance that may have caused.
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SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2007.07.28 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Misses Gap
Originally by: Corben Ei
Originally by: Manaswa You got suicide ganked by a trial account? What were they flying? Hell....what were YOU flying?
Please keep these kinds of completely irelevant comments out of this thread.
Thank you!
Sorry, but it is also relevant to me - Because--WHAT were YOU flying ?
Gap
i do believe he stated he got suicided by trial accounterS....NOTICE THE S, people. Chances are he got ganked by 10 of 'em or so.
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GPerson
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.07.28 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: GPerson on 28/07/2007 22:11:13
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Quote: victim > you will see killer > no i wont. cause i wont care cause nothing will happen victim > this is my newest character
Again, if that is a quote from your friend, it is clar that he is using the creation of alts and the trial account to circunvent the consequences of high sec ganking.
No, what is clear is that his friend is used to the thousands of "you'll pay" or "my main's corp will wardec you" threats made everyday. Of which, three have been followed up on. Five, at most.
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Outa Rileau
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Posted - 2007.07.28 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Corben Ei And there is no such thing as free lunch!
ibashthinepost
If you can't prove it, get over it... please, this makes me sad, people can take losses in high sec this hard. It can't be THAT much if they managed to kill it with trial accounts.
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Willow Whisp
Sadist Faction
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Posted - 2007.07.28 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Corben Ei Now, I base my allegations on the fact, that the accounts were 4 days old on the day of the killing. No sane person would pay for an account before the end of the 14 day trial period. Especially not suicide gankers.
Oh, so now you can see their account age? The only thing you can tell, is that they were 4 day old characters - for all you know they were just another alt in a legitimate account. So, unless you are able to look at their account details (which you can't) you are just making an assumption there. ...
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Asestorian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.28 23:07:00 -
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Yeah I'm afraid you can't assume that they were brand new accounts (trial or not) by the age of the characters. It is perfectly possible they made an alt on an already existing account and ganked you with that, and then simply left the alt alone because they couldn't be bothered with it any more. I've had an alt on my account for around two years I haven't done anything with.
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Misses Gap
Caldari The Lantern Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.29 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Misses Gap on 29/07/2007 00:11:32
Originally by: Outa Rileau
Originally by: Corben Ei And there is no such thing as free lunch!
ibashthinepost
If you can't prove it, get over it... please, this makes me sad, people can take losses in high sec this hard. It can't be THAT much if they managed to kill it with trial accounts.
Yeah I guess you are right Outa, but he might have tried to hint at Robert Heinleins "TANSTAAFL" missing out on but one "a" and the fact its "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" - but hey, you can always petition and forum fight to get that line changed.
This thread has reached a highly unconstructive level really - can we please close it ?
I can see flames on the horizon.
The grudge seems between the "Ei" and the "GM" so take it to whatever official level is appropriate.
Plus: What. The. Hell. Did. You. Fly. And. Lose ?
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari IntoXication Inc PioneerX Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.29 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker Edited by: Trak Cranker on 28/07/2007 18:20:36Seems to me that there had been no post if the GMs answer was that an investigation was made and did not prove his assumptions.
In regards to his allegations, it is completely irellevant what was used on either side. People requesting that are either eager to taunt the loss or has a lack of logical/debate skills. None of which has a place in this thread.
It seems that the OP is at terms with suicide ganking. But not if done by alts being disposed - and that was his, apperently well researched, assumption.
That assumption might very well be wrong, mind you.
But the GM answer might equally well have done little to assure him that his assumptions had been checked out.
Well, what the OP was flying is relevant to whether he has the right to come here and whine over it or not, it is also quite relevant to satiating my curiosity. ------ --Don't get saucy with me Bernaise!-- |
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.29 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kharadran Sullath
Originally by: Trak Cranker Edited by: Trak Cranker on 28/07/2007 18:20:36Seems to me that there had been no post if the GMs answer was that an investigation was made and did not prove his assumptions.
In regards to his allegations, it is completely irellevant what was used on either side. People requesting that are either eager to taunt the loss or has a lack of logical/debate skills. None of which has a place in this thread.
It seems that the OP is at terms with suicide ganking. But not if done by alts being disposed - and that was his, apperently well researched, assumption.
That assumption might very well be wrong, mind you.
But the GM answer might equally well have done little to assure him that his assumptions had been checked out.
Well, what the OP was flying is relevant to whether he has the right to come here and whine over it or not, it is also quite relevant to satiating my curiosity.
he got pwned by trail accounts, doesn't matter whath e was flying, its funny Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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Lorette
Gallente Grandma's WIth Guns
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:16:00 -
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Your playing a pvp game, your not safe anywhere. And if some 1 day old or even 13 day old players managed to kill you, congrats to them. Suicide gankers help bring the fun of eve to the people hiding in high sec.
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