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Nidokai
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:40:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:True mining is an activity that the devs put in the game, but times have changed since beta, and we can't ignore present day realities. Mining is so boring and monotonous that the players have built bots to automate it for them. CCP I think turns a blind eye to illegal botting because if it were to disappear suddenly the economy would probably fall apart, because not enough players can bear the thought of spending their game time mining when they can do practically anything else in the game and get more isk/hour.
It's obvious CCP turns a blind eye to botters, but the solution to the problem isn't to senselessly attack people (who are not impacting your enjoyment of the game in literally any way) for no reason other than that they don't conform to your vision of how the game is "supposed" to be played. The problem is botting, not people who legitimately enjoy playing the game solo, doing random activities as they please.
Not everything in any game, especially in an MMO, is necessarily designed to be a blowing-the-doors-off-the-house experience. Resource collection is a common feature present in almost every single MMO ever. Not only that, but different people like different things. Some people, including myself, enjoy grinding certain things out, be they asteroids or missions or whathaveyou.
Perhaps if botting was actually eliminated, mining and manufacturing from said materials might actually turn a serious enough profit to get people to spend the time in doing so. The reason I don't mine much anymore isn't because it's boring, or that I hate it; it's because it doesn't turn enough of a profit to actually be worth my time, and mining in low/nullsec is a fool's errand.
I just can't stand this attitude that not only says that if people don't play the game in a specific way, they're doing it wrong (since that would be one thing) but also this approach that apparently dictates that, if people don't play the game in the way you think they should, you're going to go out of your way to make the lives of people just trying to de-stress in their evening playing a game, a living hell. Especially this notion that you somehow have the 'enlightened' view of EVE's gameplay and you're 'liberating' people from some sort of self-induced slavery.
Generation Irony has produced a lot of unsavory individuals on the internet, but some EVE players are a very special breed of senselessly sadistic. |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:37:00 -
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You somewhat see the hypocrite nature of the forums here.
Add in a few blatant trolls.
Add in the fact that this thread has been on Page one in the forum, inactive and still on page one.
People will try to justify suicide popping miners by saying it cuts in tot hier profits, then 3 threads later say mining is 6 mill an hr and not worth it, they won't mine. One or the other please.
Trolls rambling on in some Role Players language about tears and sustaining you can ignore but everyone needs to ignore them or it's pointless.
A year ago you would do well to keep a thread on page one for an hr when it was active. Now it's still here a day later and nobody is replying. The game is dead right now. People get bored in game and act up just like they do on the forum and this is also the real problem in EVE right now. There is no demand for minerals. Nobody is losing ships for a hundred reasons. It's why everyone is ISK farming. There isn't much else to do. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
950
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:15:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:You're playing a game that goes to great lengths to have one single un-sharded universe full of thousands of players. If all you do is shoot red crosses or mine rocks with the extent of your interaction with other players being chatting in corp or sperging in local because someone flipped your can or stole your salvage, then yes I think that I have reasonable grounds for accusing you of playing the game wrong. But as I said, it's not your fault, Eve doesn't train the player how to play like other games do. Compare your newbie experience in this game with that of Evian Drinker's newbie experience, a 1 day old player who on his first day helped tackle and kill three Tengus. We have another newbie, Orion Winters who got a warp-in on a Nyx Supercarrier on his second day, first supercapital kill of 2012. On your second day you were mining Scordite in your Bantam or grinding level1 missions. Can you imagine how different your Eve life would have been if you had that kind of start? Please try to understand where we're coming from. We're playing the game as it was intended. We're interacting with each other in a multiplayer game like we're supposed to. We interact with each other all the time, cooperating and helping each other (or not sometimes). we interact with neutrals and reds using the myriad of ships and modules explicitly designed by CCP for combat. We're doing all the things that CCP keeps making (very misleading and misrepresentative) trailers about. CCP don't make trailers about solo mining or mission running publords in high-sec for very good reason.
In the words of the great Bugs Bunny - What an embezzle! What an ultramaroon!
FYI - CCP trailers show multiple players doing Alliance wars in 0.0 space. CCP does not advocate ganking Industrial ships in high sec systems. |

Wacktopia
Noir.
140
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:18:00 -
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I wish CCP would bite the bullet and move VGs to low sec (not null sec). The whole cyno-jam mechanic and lack of bubbles means the chance of a hot drop is zilch. A weather-eye on local and D-Scan would be enough intel. Might bring some more people and activity in to low sec perhaps. . |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
186
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Posted - 2012.01.10 18:03:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:[quote=pussnheels]Please try to understand where we're coming from. We're playing the game as it was intended.
I thought EVE was a sandbox? I didnt realize that there was a proper or improper way to play EVE. |

Borun Tal
Cubicle Warriors from 'merica
29
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Posted - 2012.01.10 18:24:00 -
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What?!?!?!?!  |

Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:42:00 -
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So people are not playing eve correctly? i love bursting bubbles but they are playing it to their style and not to your whim of being scammed. No one has the right to tell anyone how to play they will eventually get to that level and learn more about the game is has huge opportunities of growth.
So you TEST guys need to get that GOON out from your butt |

ariana ailith
Aribar Conglomerate
31
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Posted - 2012.01.12 09:24:00 -
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does it matter why the prices are rising? fact is some are rising... sell your stuff. done. |
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