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artin
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: artin on 12/07/2007 03:00:24
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TRIBEMASTER
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:54:00 -
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I got the KM for this. this guy failed to mention he was ganking hualers at the gate and Script warped in his crow and saw it and came back in his myrm and baited him and he fell for it. Nothing more it was a text book gank sit in the belt and wait and sure enough there he was. he asked script if he had friends and script said no but then we hate script so there was truth to his story but he flies with us. anyways if you want to flmae anyone flame me i dont care im blinke red and -10 so i really truly could care less. However, We do honour 1v1's if one is made that our corps rules and we have to answer for it if we dont I would like the the accsuer to post said log of the event to back up his story i wasnt in system so i dont know i was sitting at safe waiting for the go call. Post the logs are take your loss and learn from it
Later, Tribes
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Arii Smith
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: TRIBEMASTER I got the KM for this. this guy failed to mention he was ganking hualers at the gate and Script warped in his crow and saw it and came back in his myrm and baited him and he fell for it. Nothing more it was a text book gank sit in the belt and wait and sure enough there he was. he asked script if he had friends and script said no but then we hate script so there was truth to his story but he flies with us. anyways if you want to flmae anyone flame me i dont care im blinke red and -10 so i really truly could care less. However, We do honour 1v1's if one is made that our corps rules and we have to answer for it if we dont I would like the the accsuer to post said log of the event to back up his story i wasnt in system so i dont know i was sitting at safe waiting for the go call. Post the logs are take your loss and learn from it
Later, Tribes
That sounds more like the S******dly I know and distrust!
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.12 03:28:00 -
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I think this was just a misunderstanding and a willingness to believe the guy that said he had no friends so he assumed it was a one v one mistake on his part oh well.
When you assume you get dead Rasta oh and hahaah!
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.12 04:27:00 -
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Chat log? And the reason I don't 1v1 is because 'misunderstandings' like this happen all the time, theres always people trying to find loop holes. :/
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Aviticus
Caldari Deviance Inc Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.12 06:32:00 -
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The Karnal Knowledge Alliance does infact honor 1 vs 1's. But if the topic poster failed to make it official which I doubt he did since 5 others joined in his destruction with no private chat to back up his accusations, that's his loss. When a 1 vs 1 is made, it is made known on Teamspeak and in all chats for everyone not to interfere.
I personally hate people who think just because they fight a guy in an asteroid belt 1 on 1 that no one else is supposed to join in. It was obviously not stated they were not fighting a 1 vs 1, and futhermore a 1 vs 1 would not have happened at an asteroid belt in the first place. The guy got himself ganked, jumped, whatever you want to call it fair and square and should learn from his mistakes.
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Tony Allizzar
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tony Allizzar on 12/07/2007 10:11:05
Originally by: Skulltorchaz
Originally by: Tony Allizzar I find cearbears are the worst for it. they have no honour. and they smack. oooh they smack hard. esspecialy when they warp there 150 man gang in on ur 1v1
They have to take revenge when it hurts you the most, you wouldn't care much if they ganged you while you were trying to gank the person himself, but when your not prepared for it, it hurts the most ;o
It dont hurt really. Loosing ships is the nature of how I play eve. Its ust a shame, cuz often, it could have ben a fun fight
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Rasta Rocketman
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:42:00 -
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I asked the guy if he had friends around and he said no. At that point we both knew it was a 1v1. If he didn't then he should be a lawyer. I later asked him wtf and he gave me a couple pretty weak excuses like 'I didn't know the guys that came in to help me' and 'aww cmon what did you expect'. The guy knows it was a 1v1 even if the the words '1v1' were not actually typed. It was obvious he know because he was dodging the question and squirming for an excuse after the fight was over.
Either way it's done and he's been named and shamed. _______________________________________________
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:57:00 -
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Forgive me Father for I have sinned. It was 1 minute since my last confession. Here are my sinsą
I have never honoured a 1v1
I am now, named and shamed (again).
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MaxSkywalker
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.12 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: MaxSkywalker on 12/07/2007 12:23:58 I totally agree with the OP.
I myself would never challenge a guy in a 1v1 fight, and then bring in loads of friends!
I had a kinda similar experience the other day in my myrmidon, I scanned down another myrmidon, the player was even older than me but I decided to get a goodfight out of it.. I warp in, deploy drones and engage him.. He started to agress me and several battleships and EW boats popped up on the scanner, and as he went to 75% armor I died myself..
Just shows that solo pvping is not worth it unless you're in a nanoship... - I live of government cheese! NERF THE BOMBS!! |
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Monti Reagan
Gallente Black Wolves
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Posted - 2007.07.12 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rasta Rocketman I asked the guy if he had friends around and he said no. At that point we both knew it was a 1v1. If he didn't then he should be a lawyer. I later asked him wtf and he gave me a couple pretty weak excuses like 'I didn't know the guys that came in to help me' and 'aww cmon what did you expect'. The guy knows it was a 1v1 even if the the words '1v1' were not actually typed. It was obvious he know because he was dodging the question and squirming for an excuse after the fight was over.
Either way it's done and he's been named and shamed.
Asking a guy who is baiting you to your death if he has mates around will possible get you the answer u got mate. However there are no "we both knew it was a 1v1". Unless you both sat there and agrees it was a "1v1" in those words it just simply isnt.
Good trap and again sorry for you ship rasta
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50freefly
Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:44:00 -
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Hmm... TBH it's the newer gen of players that don't honor them.
The whole 'I'm a pirate what do you expect' thing is old and a lame copout tbh.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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EinaruS
Rage Academy oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.12 15:43:00 -
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Sun Tzu said honor and fairness had no place in a battle.
i certainly understand why most people hold this 1v1 as something so sacred but personally i just think it's a load of crap.
although i dont think i have ever dishonored a 1v1 i still wouldn't hesitate if something important was at stakes. -
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Jadiin
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.07.13 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rasta Rocketman I asked the guy if he had friends around and he said no. At that point we both knew it was a 1v1. If he didn't then he should be a lawyer. I later asked him wtf and he gave me a couple pretty weak excuses like 'I didn't know the guys that came in to help me' and 'aww cmon what did you expect'. The guy knows it was a 1v1 even if the the words '1v1' were not actually typed. It was obvious he know because he was dodging the question and squirming for an excuse after the fight was over.
Either way it's done and he's been named and shamed.
Point number 1: 1v1's are for idiots willing to risk their ships to a gank.... There is no such thing as a fair fight and if that's how you want to fight your opponents then you're gonna lose, you wanna kill your opponent and be bloody sure you're better than him.
Point Number 2: To assume is to make an ass outta you and me. You assumed it was a 1v1 and you said it yourself, it was never typed sooohooooo.... Whining about it isn't really worth it now is it?
Maybe you've learnt a lesson?
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Lore Isander
Caldari Paisti
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:20:00 -
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I have done a few 1on1's during my time in EVE, won some, lost some, but NEVER dishonored a single 1on1.
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2007.07.13 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Kunni Is there even honor in EVE??, get over it, only time i've ever accepted a 1vs1, is when I ahve backup in the next system incase anything goes wrong.
Although I did accept a 1vs1 with some guy while 4 of his corp members were in system, gotta give respect for that as he kept to his side of the deal
Its ppl like you that gives the rest of us a bad name
Ps: welcome back rasta
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Scripture
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Posted - 2007.07.14 05:35:00 -
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Channel ID: 2121427423 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Scripture Session started: 2007.07.11 03:21:05 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2007.07.11 03:21:15 ] Scripture > not doin anythin naughty are u? =P [ 2007.07.11 03:21:34 ] Rasta Rocketman > you look like a bad boy too [ 2007.07.11 03:22:28 ] Rasta Rocketman > these haulers with you? [ 2007.07.11 03:22:30 ] Scripture > so where u playin at then? =P [ 2007.07.11 03:23:07 ] Scripture > just curious if yer gonna try anythin =P [ 2007.07.11 03:23:23 ] Rasta Rocketman > on your? [ 2007.07.11 03:23:25 ] Rasta Rocketman > *you [ 2007.07.11 03:23:54 ] Scripture > command ship eh? [ 2007.07.11 03:24:49 ] Rasta Rocketman > u have friends nearby? [ 2007.07.11 03:24:56 ] Scripture > no [ 2007.07.11 03:25:02 ] Scripture > but ive taken out battleships before in this =) [ 2007.07.11 03:25:06 ] Scripture > so im confident [ 2007.07.11 03:26:07 ] Scripture > im guessin yer not? [ 2007.07.11 03:29:25 ] Scripture > this all yer gonna do? kite me? lol [ 2007.07.11 03:29:54 ] Scripture > if u cant even handle gettin close to a myrm, then i shouldnt of come in the first place... [ 2007.07.11 03:32:21 ] Rasta Rocketman > weak brother, weak (At this point he was obviously dead)
A) The people i was flying with are a-holes, and not my friends
B) I'm in a friggen Myrmidon, and your in a faction fitted/all T2 COMMAND SHIP Sleipner
C) You were gate camping haulers for some time, and with any gate camp, ESPECIALLY SOLO, you will get killed eventually
D) No 1v1 was mentioned at all, and once again, I was in a friggen battlecruiser, you were in a command ship, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER
Seriously, for as long as you've been playing, you should be able to recognize what is bait and what isnt. I knew I had no chance in hell against you, but i figured risking a 30'ish mil ship for a 180'ish mil ship was well worth it. It was plain as day bait, and you fell for it, get over it. If I did say 1v1, and it was broken, I would expect to get booted without a doubt, but this time it comes down to your stupidity sorry to say. Don't try to flame me because you fell for something so basic.
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Terro Deagas
Kapital Punishment Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.14 09:15:00 -
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Damn where was I that night :(
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BANDID
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.14 11:00:00 -
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indeed not a lot honor 1 vs 1 its a pitty really.......
I will allways honor them though and every single normal minded player would allso like our 200 infodians will.
but yes its hard to trust anyone in eve nowadays its sad just sad
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Lord Zoran
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.07.14 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 11/07/2007 07:09:58
as I have said dozens of times before..
1 vs 1s are for fools
i'm not even going to say what i think of that remark...... --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! |
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Locodekanko
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Posted - 2007.07.16 06:05:00 -
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I love how people respond to these with "I always honor 1v1!!!111" when it has been made blatantly clear their was no 1v1 agreed to or even implied. Read the whole thread before you post inane comments.
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weedmasta
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.16 08:46:00 -
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My principle is not to accept 1v1s instead it is to expect a blob next door (and yes i don't give a rats ass who you are or what corp you are in). There is no honor in Eve because there is no honor in real life generally. Eve is really just a mirror of RL, in some cases magnified multiple times over. If I want to 1v1 to see my capabilities i'll go on the test server or do it at a safe with corpies or just go out alone and leave it to chance.
To the op: It is your own fault (that was hard to figure out), you can still accept 1v1s but just be prepared to get out in case it is a trap (in most cases it is). Though i must agree, people lying like this to get a kill is rather annoying and sad.
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Antraxx
Caldari Deviance Inc Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.16 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: weedmasta
To the op: It is your own fault (that was hard to figure out), you can still accept 1v1s but just be prepared to get out in case it is a trap (in most cases it is). Though i must agree, people lying like this to get a kill is rather annoying and sad.
So when you are trying to bait someone...You should warn them beforehand that there's a gank squad waiting for you to agress? There never was any agreement to 1v1....That not been made clear enough? Im sure Veto has never indulged in a little encouragement to get ppl to agress eh? *Grin*
Btw Scrip... Im curious as to just who was there..
Originally by: scripture A) The people i was flying with are a-holes, and not my friends
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Locodekanko I when it has been made blatantly clear their was no 1v1 agreed to or even implied.
Really?
[ 2007.07.11 03:23:54 ] Scripture > command ship eh? [ 2007.07.11 03:24:49 ] Rasta Rocketman > u have friends nearby? [ 2007.07.11 03:24:56 ] Scripture > no [ 2007.07.11 03:25:02 ] Scripture > but ive taken out battleships before in this =) [ 2007.07.11 03:25:06 ] Scripture > so im confident
Not implied? Hmmmmm...
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:10:00 -
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Yeap thats about standard these days.
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: KardonHarman
Quote: No one in any corp has honoured 1v1's
I know for a fact that if anyone in Snigg deliberatly dishonoured a 1v1 then Shamis and the rest of the corp would take great delight in constantly podding them repeatedly.
We may be dastardly Pirates but Shamis does impose a very strict code of conduct.
beets has similar policy, hell my mates attack me while i'm fighting other people 1v1. ____________ Beets, You're among friends.
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Guru
Kapital Punishment Karnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.18 01:59:00 -
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You want honor? Go help an old lady carry in her bags.. lol There is no honor in games and any honor even supposedly felt is all roleplayed, whether you realize your roleplaying or not. Now that I got my personal opinion out of the way which really has nothing to do with this.. as honor has nothing to do with this...
As a few others have said we do uphold 1 vs. 1's. I personally dont usually 1 vs. 1, and everytime it is offered I usually decline as it is usually a trap or bs. The one and only time I did accept a 1 vs. 1 I kept my word, although I was still weary.(thanks for the good fight Neff.. :P)
This was obviously NOT even close to a 1 vs. 1 being implied... no matter what or how you want to view it. Him saying he has no friends is nothing more then being smart... and if he did otherwise I would call him foolish. I would like to repeat what others have said and then ask some questions for those who think this was wrong..
Would you tell your enemy you had friends on the other side of the gate? If so why?
Do you think it would have been an act of honor for him to let an enemy know we were sitting on the other side of the gate?
Define honor!
Define stupidity!
Define enemy!
Answer these questions and look up these definitions and then maybe you can see the skewed point of view some who are posting here are taking.
Rasta - I know it sucks to lose a ship because you did something foolish.. I have done it plenty of times! Dont sweat it.. get back into game and have some fun! No hard feelings..
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Miniturret
Amarr Rum Runners Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.18 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Miniturret on 18/07/2007 02:13:48 since it wasn't an offical 1v1 then why the heck is there all the whining? so you lost a ship big freaking deal... you were gate camping it had to happen eventually.
Define honor! - that which I believe to be true and just. What I believe to be honorable the next poster might not.
Define stupidity! - believing the recruiter when he told me of immortal fame, women, and booze.
Define enemy! - the rest of the universe.
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gokil on 18/07/2007 13:22:58
Originally by: Guru You want honor?
As a few others have said we do uphold 1 vs. 1's.
This was obviously NOT even close to a 1 vs. 1 being implied... no matter what or how you want to view it.[/quote]
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zkillz kun Edited by: Zkillz kun on 17/07/2007 18:36:48
Originally by: KardonHarman
Quote: No one in any corp has honoured 1v1's
I know for a fact that if anyone in Snigg deliberatly dishonoured a 1v1 then Shamis and the rest of the corp would take great delight in constantly podding them repeatedly.
We may be dastardly Pirates but Shamis does impose a very strict code of conduct.
beets has similar policy, hell my mates attack me while i'm fighting other people 1v1.
Originally by: weedmasta My principle is not to accept 1v1s instead it is to expect a blob next door (and yes i don't give a rats ass who you are or what corp you are in). There is no honor in Eve because there is no honor in real life generally. Eve is really just a mirror of RL, in some cases magnified multiple times over. If I want to 1v1 to see my capabilities i'll go on the test server or do it at a safe with corpies or just go out alone and leave it to chance.
eve isn't anything like RL cause tis a game. wtf are you talking about. also you can have honor in a game just like you ca RP. if someone wants to RP a pirate that honors 1v1's don't flame him and don't say what he's doining is ignorant cause its just the same as RP'ing some anarchist caldari or whatever.
Yeah honour and all that. Does that include self destructing a carrier to deny an enemy the kilmaill? Just want clarification on this honour thing you're talking about, that's all.
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