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ARISEION
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: ARISEION on 04/07/2007 11:14:03 Sorry for the noob question guys but is a dread any good for killing carriers?
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Mona X
Caldari C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:17:00 -
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yes
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lofty29
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:18:00 -
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One probably cant kill a single, decent carrier pilot. Two would kill a carrier, or most likely. ---
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ARISEION
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:20:00 -
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What about a Moros with blasters and antimatter? and whats the chance of a carrier killing a dread when in siege?
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Jongo Fett
Caldari Dark Entropy
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:54:00 -
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no chance of a carrier killing a seiged dread. It would take a few mins for a seiged dread to take down a carrier even if the carrier is well fit.
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ARISEION
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Posted - 2007.07.04 12:00:00 -
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Excellent guys thanks for the help so far but one last bit I need to know - anyone ised Triage Mods on a Carrier? and is it worth it? I imagine it would take a fair while long for a dread to kill one while in triage mode?
cheers once again
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Chronus26
Gallente Team Laser Explosion Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.04 12:42:00 -
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My Thanatos (w/ Deadspace hardeners) can tank 2 sieged Naglfars almost indefinatly with a little transversal, and for 15 mins + when stationary. A single Dread cannot break a Carrier's tank, a single Carrier cannot break a Dreads tank and a single Carrier cannot break another Carriers tank. -----
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Lucus Ranger
Gallente Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.04 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26 My Thanatos (w/ Deadspace hardeners) can tank 2 sieged Naglfars almost indefinatly with a little transversal, and for 15 mins + when stationary. A single Dread cannot break a Carrier's tank, a single Carrier cannot break a Dreads tank and a single Carrier cannot break another Carriers tank.
Moral of the story is! Never do cap ship 1v1 /Prince of Darkness at your service..
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OeOeOeOeO
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Posted - 2007.07.04 13:05:00 -
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LIES i want proof damn you PROOF! ---------
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Victor Ivanov
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.04 13:17:00 -
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Yeah, I'm surprised so many people got it wrong. Let me make this very clear for everyone on this forum:
A dread vs Carrier should always end in a stalemate. Neither can break each other's tank.
If the carrier pilot is an IMBECILE who just sits there smiling meekly while the dread goes into siege....Well, maybe. Carrier tanks are still quite potent, but yes, in time the carrier will die.
However, all you need is a speed above 50 m/s to create enough transversal to make the damage of a dread go bye bye.
It's a given fact: Carrier and Dread are two opposite ends of the spectrum. They are evenly matched and will never be able to end each other. ----------------------
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2007.07.04 13:45:00 -
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Dreads have more potential to hurt a carrier though.
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lofty29
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.04 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: X99 Z990 Dreads have more potential to hurt a carrier though.
But in a 30 dread vs 30 carrier fight, the carriers are likely to win. ---
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.04 14:32:00 -
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Lets see, t2 fited thanatos can tank 3k dps permamently, and in ideal hitting with turrets moro w/o dmg mods will go for around 2,6k dps (blasters). Including traversal, no way dread can beat carrier :p ---
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ARISEION
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Posted - 2007.07.04 14:56:00 -
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I take it this is where your support comes in to web a carrier to nothing.
Plus will citadel's not negate the transversal effect or is the damage just too lacking with these?
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.04 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 04/07/2007 15:08:14 explosion velocity bonus -92,5 %
and even webbed carrier can easly permatank dread. ---
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.04 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Ivanov Yeah, I'm surprised so many people got it wrong. Let me make this very clear for everyone on this forum:
A dread vs Carrier should always end in a stalemate. Neither can break each other's tank.
If the carrier pilot is an IMBECILE who just sits there smiling meekly while the dread goes into siege....Well, maybe. Carrier tanks are still quite potent, but yes, in time the carrier will die.
However, all you need is a speed above 50 m/s to create enough transversal to make the damage of a dread go bye bye.
It's a given fact: Carrier and Dread are two opposite ends of the spectrum. They are evenly matched and will never be able to end each other.
Yes, they can't end each other, same thing with dread vs elite frigate: if the elite frig's pilot is not a complete ****** they will never be able to end each other. Whereas an assault cruiser could end the elite frigate and a battelship could end an assault cruiser - so the battelship must be many times stronger than a dread ? err ? and the titan has a weaker tank than a dread in siegemod, means an elite frigate or an assault cruiser or a battelship could end a titan.
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Lars Intarestum
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Posted - 2007.07.04 16:07:00 -
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Dread's role: Blow up slow semi-stationary stuff (POS's, Titans, Moms, other Seiged Dreads, etc.) Carrier's Role: Fleet support and Fighter Spewing
A group of Dreads can kill Carriers. A group of Carriers can kill Dreads. A Carrier can't kill a Dread. A Dread can't kill a Carrier.
All of that is mitigated by the golden rule of EVE: A good player will often kill an idiot.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.04 16:48:00 -
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Just another question, the Moros, is that a Carrier or a Dread ? It is formally called Dread but inside it there is a lot of a Carrier .. maybe a Dread with a built-in Carrier ?
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:06:00 -
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3 dreads can kill a carrier though but 3 carriers cant kill a dread.
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lofty29
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: X99 Z990 3 dreads can kill a carrier though but 3 carriers cant kill a dread.
Actually if each carrier had say, 2 heavy neuts, they probably could. ---
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:20:00 -
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If the carrers in a hypothetical carriers vs. dread fight bring 10 heavy neut drones and 2 heavy neut modules to the fight, it can only go one way. The carriers can simply cap-factory and circle-tank an essentially infinite amount of DPS, and then work their way through the dreads one by one, neuting their cap and then dumping the fighters on them.
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