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Garmon
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:24:00 -
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Hey guys, after I finish Garmonation 9 I'm planning on making a few very indepth guides, (they won't be about HG crystals and tengu links - I only do this when I am frapsing for movie) I want the guides to cater to every one, I'm sure there's something every one can learn, the best I can hope with these indepth guides is that they will inspire highsec dwellers into going to 0.0 and kick some ass
Main reason I'm making this thread is that I'd like to have some feedback on what they'd like to learn, and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help? |
DreamTrooperX
Reloaded. The 99 Percent
22
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:32:00 -
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The best thing for the people in highsec is to at least concider dipping their feet into low/null. It can be a bit scary, but the rewards are great. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2724
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:36:00 -
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The reality of numbrs that get thrown when fighting like how long would a certain kind of setup live for under this much 'dps' or if it could survive an alpha.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
365
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:47:00 -
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honestly? where to find targets and what to do when you can fight one... PVP every time i try is roam for hours with nothing to shoot.. or fly into gatecamp, die and w/e its just a small ship. |
Roxwar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:56:00 -
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As a new player trying to get myself into PVP combat, the first few things that spring to mind would be :-
1. How do you support yourself finacially to cover your losses, as from what ive learned upto now, PVP is certainly not a viable income generator.
2. How can i swing the odds in my favour in a 1v1 fight? I'm new and know im going to lose 99.9% of the time while learning due to skill point advantages my opponent has over me. Is that fixed in stone? Is it possible for someone like me to win over somebody who has more SP than i do.
3. Gate agression mechanics, i get them in a roundabout way, but having them in laymans terms would be a big help.
Rox |
Klown Walk
Ore Mongers
39
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:59:00 -
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Some stuff I think people could use some help with: (me aswell)
Finding fights. Making the right decisions in a fight. Making isk to support pvping. Flying ships the right way. |
Avensys
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
82
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:02:00 -
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heat management - both in actual combat and considerations when fitting ships
dog-fighting - manual piloting, slingshotting, ... |
Jaa-Ko Arakal
Dogmatic Citizens NZAU Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:05:00 -
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Gonna have to go with finding fights as a solo player, most of the time I roam around and find nothing/things that way outclass my ship. Also recommended ships for a solo player. Can't wait to read a guide by the infamous garmon! keep up the good work. |
seany1212
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
67
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:12:00 -
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Garmon I think the best thing you could teach me would be cheap effective pvp, I think its why high sec dwellers mostly don't tap into pvp for fear of losing expensive ships as they think its the only way to pvp and actually get some kills, I know its something I'd like to improve myself, flying ruppies against drakes and actually winning (lol), maybe a video exclusively of t1 ships with t1 fits light get more noobies looking into pvp (unless you've done it already in which point me to the door :D) |
Yakumo Smith
The Forsakened Companions
17
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:17:00 -
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The best thing you could do for your guide is to explain what is going through your head.
Kil2 has been doing this on some of his You Tube video's and it's a great way to learn. It's all very easy to get the "book knowledge", but learning the thought process behind the actions people see on video's can take a lot longer.
For example "burning from gate to split the enemy gang", "decided to attack this chap as his mate on the gate alligned in the opposite direction si I figured I had an extra 15 seconds". This detail is often left out of pvp video's and all the watcher sees is the tackled ship with his friend on the gate without the understanding of how this came about and why it's important etc. |
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Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
223
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:24:00 -
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1. How do you fight a 20 man with logi support solo when your entire alliance suddenly decides to stay docked.
2. Whats your extraction plan when you are hotdropped by supers and you are already 4 fighting people
3. How do you get the Goons to fight without it being financially benifical to Mittans the mighty.
And anything else you think is useful Something Awful. A beacon for tearful, lonely neckbeards. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
903
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:26:00 -
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How to avoid getting blobbed to hell and back when soloing without running a whole bunch of neutral scouting alts. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:42:00 -
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Yakumo Smith wrote:The best thing you could do for your guide is to explain what is going through your head.
Kil2 has been doing this on some of his You Tube video's and it's a great way to learn. It's all very easy to get the "book knowledge", but learning the thought process behind the actions people see on video's can take a lot longer.
For example "burning from gate to split the enemy gang", "decided to attack this chap as his mate on the gate alligned in the opposite direction si I figured I had an extra 15 seconds". This detail is often left out of pvp video's and all the watcher sees is the tackled ship with his friend on the gate without the understanding of how this came about and why it's important etc.
Yeah, this.
I actually had my own post which I forgot to save before the forums ate it. ::ccp:: too lazy to type it again. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
203
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:46:00 -
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I don't PVP as I'm a confirmed carebear
But things I think would be usefull to know as an outsider.
-The diffenent styles for group or solo PVP
-The diffence between low, null and wormhole space and how to operate effectively in each. Also perhaps how PVP relates to life in high sec (war decs and suicide ganking etc.)
-How a PVP build would differ from a PVE build
-Movement jamming and how it all works
-Capital ships there roles, strengths and weakneses
-Situaional tactical assesments
ie.
What to do if gatecamped
How to gatecamp
Combat at stations
Roaming and target assesment
What the smeg a 'hotdrop' is how to use or avoid them
POS's attack and defence of
Thats what I can think of of the top of my head, also if you need someone with no real knowledge of PvP to read drafts and give feedback for you I'd be happy to help.
Good luck and nice one, nice to see someone giving something back to EVE.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
302
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:20:00 -
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Garmon wrote: and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help?
Can never seem to find another 7 people to gang up on someone with. |
Mutnin
Mutineers
41
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:28:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:How to avoid getting blobbed to hell and back when soloing without running a whole bunch of neutral scouting alts.
I think he enjoys getting blobbed to hell and back, at least that's what I think when I watch his vids.
As for what to teach people whom are new to PVP, I'd suggest basic & advanced game mechanics. Also maybe how to control the fights so it stays on your own terms.
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Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
19
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:31:00 -
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Best thing for me to learn is to take cheap but effective fits and where I can find 1v1. Though I think I am just gonna go to Frigfry Fridays for that.
Cheap effective fits would be useful though |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
903
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:50:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:How to avoid getting blobbed to hell and back when soloing without running a whole bunch of neutral scouting alts. I think he enjoys getting blobbed to hell and back, at least that's what I think when I watch his vids. As for what to teach people whom are new to PVP, I'd suggest basic & advanced game mechanics. Also maybe how to control the fights so it stays on your own terms.
Heh - I remember you from being in the Minmatar militia about 3 years (?) back, as I had an alt in the area until about then.
You constantly complained about gangs not sending all their members home except one when encountering you back then (no offense intended).
But considering there are thousands of newb pvp guides outthere, I think Garmon should write some advanced stuff not everyone with a basic clue could cover.
I remember encountering him a couple of times in Metropolis/Bleak Lands/Devoid back then, yet he never engaged, regardless of our gangs not being any bigger than what he occasionally takes on in Garmonation.
I FCd small gangs occasionally, and I think I have a pretty good assessment of what my gang can take on and what it can't, yet I find it hard to determine what I can take solo. Sounds weird, I know, as at first glance, there seem to be less elements factoring in when soloing, but then again, i know my gangs capabilities and get an assessment of what the other gang has thanks to scouts, so I consider making the decision whether to engage or not a lot easier when being FC of a small gang than when being on my own.
So yeah - what I'd ask for is a guide on encounter assessment when soloing (and I mean real soloing). morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
69
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:59:00 -
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Garmon wrote:Hey guys, after I finish Garmonation 9 I'm planning on making a few very indepth guides, (they won't be about HG crystals and tengu links - I only do this when I am frapsing for movie) I want the guides to cater to every one, I'm sure there's something every one can learn, the best I can hope with these indepth guides is that they will inspire highsec dwellers into going to 0.0 and kick some ass
Main reason I'm making this thread is that I'd like to have some feedback on what they'd like to learn, and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help?
How to avoid fights you don't want to be in.
Using the starmap to find areas that are camped to ****.
Directional scanner.
checking local.
Instas
Etc.
The first step in PVPing is not getting blobbed to death instantly. |
Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
45
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Posted - 2012.01.08 00:03:00 -
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Garmon wrote:Hey guys, after I finish Garmonation 9 I'm planning on making a few very indepth guides, (they won't be about HG crystals and tengu links - I only do this when I am frapsing for movie) I want the guides to cater to every one, I'm sure there's something every one can learn, the best I can hope with these indepth guides is that they will inspire highsec dwellers into going to 0.0 and kick some ass
Main reason I'm making this thread is that I'd like to have some feedback on what they'd like to learn, and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help?
First of all, the pipes to null are camped. So I would like some advice on how to get past a Lach, Huginn, Rapier, Curse gatecamp. Thanks. Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil HatGäó |
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
203
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:31:00 -
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Teach how to stop training gallente ships and start training minmitar, also teach me how to make pvp threads stop appearing in general discussion. Threads like this generally result in anything positive.
Locked. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1427
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:45:00 -
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Teach me how to give billions of isk to Mintchip and receive nothing in return. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
129
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:47:00 -
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Finding fights. After an hour or two of roaming around and finding nothing you can't help but wonder if you're doing something drastically wrong.
And finding a mega-blob after 2 minutes gives the same feeling. But that's just obviously bad luck. I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4298
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:49:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Teach me how to give billions of isk to Mintchip and receive nothing in return. 1. In any chat window, type in Tippia, highlight and auto-link it to a character (select the topmost in the list). 2. Right-click the link and choose GÇ£give moneyGÇ¥ GÇö enter a number in the billions (after making sure you have it available in your wallet) 3. If you don't hear from Mintchip, you will know it has worked. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
250
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Teach me how to give billions of isk to Mintchip and receive nothing in return. 1. In any chat window, type in Tippia, highlight and auto-link it to a character (select the topmost in the list). 2. Right-click the link and choose GÇ£give moneyGÇ¥ GÇö enter a number in the billions (after making sure you have it available in your wallet) 3. If you don't hear from Mintchip, you will know it has worked.
Confirming this works.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |
Pyrosomniac
9 Dimensions WUT ALLIANCE
1
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:00:00 -
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Advice I'd like?
I guess I'd want 4 key topics, very important ones too.
1 ) Controlling your nerves. Seriously, I get the shakes from adrenaline pretty badly. My caffeine addiction doesn't help. A guide to keeping calm would be nice.
2 ) Good pvp practices, such as engagement protocols that will help tip things in your favour, even if only psychologically (tying back to number 1).
3 ) A leaders point of view. I'm considering training into Leadership, as fleet maneuvers, fleet management, and efficiency have started to interest me. I also wouldn't mind covering, again, the psychological aspects of leadership, from a fleets perspective. After all, nobody wants to die, even if it's inevitable, so making that transition from ship to pod to station instantly should never feel bad if the commander can smooth things out right?
4 ) Recovery of assets. Of course, don't fly what you can't afford to lose, but lose one too many ships and suddenly things can look very bad. A guide for making small sums of ISK rapidly (enough to dare going into null, to make more), to replace failed attempts and mend broken ego's and wallets because that EFT fit totally shouldn't have died that fast.
I'd guess that's it.
TL;DR: Write Sun Tzu's "The Art of War". |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
849
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:02:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Teach me how to give billions of isk to Mintchip and receive nothing in return. Don't stop believing. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:11:00 -
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Garmon wrote:I'd like to have some feedback on what they'd like to learn, and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help?
How do you combat blobs (fleet of lets say 7 guys but about 20-30 ships) of multiboxing several year vets? Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |
okst666
Not Solitude Again Chained Reactions
124
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:21:00 -
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Ok I have a question.
Lets pretend you have a highsec war. There are a few wartargets caved in a station. Lets say 2.
Yourself have a fleet up of maybe 5 people and camp that said station.
Every once in a while, one of the WTs undocks and we start shooting and the coward docks up again. how to prevent this?
Second hypothetical question....lets say that above fleet does not exist and you are on your own or maybe just with a friend...and a wt undocks, because it feels supeior...and then the unbelievable happens...it shoots back und you fight it for the sake of actually playing the game....and just when the Wartarget goes into armor, NINE neutral Battleships turn red in overview and start to remoterep. How do you fight this? [X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
497
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:25:00 -
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One thing I would like to "learn" is how to decide, on the fly, whether to try to out track the target close up or try to kite. Because I've found doing the wrong one = almost assured death.
I use pulse, so either can be done... |
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