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Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.01.07 06:54:00 -
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In an aim to enforce the law of NRDS in the remaining hostile systems in Providence. CVA lead a hammering assault on H6 system faced by a fleet lead by Cascade Imminent who "failed" in stopping the organized NRDS fleet to acheive its mission in making 0.0 systems a safe space for miners / explorers and traders.
The result was: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12070698
Nice work NRDS .. Law will prevail |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5614
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Posted - 2012.01.07 09:24:00 -
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This is not meant to be a troll response, but I am honestly interested in whether anyone has ever compiled numbers to reflect the relative "safety," measured in affiliated ship deaths over a unit of time, of NBSI versus NRDS engagement philosophy. If so, then that is something I would love to read. Hard numbers would provide solid ammunition (which would of course by ignored by whichever side its conclusion inconvenienced) against the space role players who justify one engagement philosophy over the other due to perceived benefits. For my take, I am under the assumption that NBSI would be more safe for the residents of a region since one never knows in an NRDS area whether the neutral who just joined local is out for blood. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
250
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:51:00 -
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Got to agree with Lyris here, I reckon CFC space is safer than NRDS space for us as it is ruled under the hammer of CFC law and therefore made safe for us loyal CFC citizens.
Just coz it isnt red doesnt mean it isnt out to kill you. Fact. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
250
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:56:00 -
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Actually I forgot, CVA and friends, in the same way the Electus Shitari do set everyone red so they can shoot them, then claim its ok coz they were red, sorry for the misunderstandings there. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.01.07 13:19:00 -
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That was an awesome long battle and a hard punch in the gut against the pirates that roam in Providence.
May the region become more and more safe from NBSI word-twisters and pirates!
Honour and Decency! Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5615
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Posted - 2012.01.07 13:57:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Got to agree with Lyris here, I reckon CFC space is safer than NRDS space for us as it is ruled under the hammer of CFC law and therefore made safe for us loyal CFC citizens.
Just coz it isnt red doesnt mean it isnt out to kill you. Fact.
Actually I forgot, CVA and friends, in the same way the Electus Shitari do set everyone red so they can shoot them, then claim its ok coz they were red, sorry for the misunderstandings there. Even so, the fact that an organisation exists and must engage its bureaucracy in order to set an entity red presents problems.
Let us suppose that there exists an unspecified number of players, and call this Entity X. This could be a single player, twelve players, a hundred players, or any number greater or lesserGÇöfor the point of this thought exercise, it does not matter the size. Now let us imagine the scenarios required for Entity X to infiltrate the space of an NBSI organisation versus those required for Entity X to infiltrate the space of an NRDS organisation. For the purposes of this thought exercise, I define "infiltrate" as a an overt entry into the space of the referenced organisation with the intention of causing harm to the denizens of that space, but without alerting the citizens of those areas that there is something amiss prior to the commission of harmful actions. I presuppose for the sake of argument that the denizens of space regions are always omniscient as to Entity X's movements, via intel channels or what have you, such that arguments such as "lol should have been watching local" have no bearing on this discussion; moreover, I presuppose zero error or loss of attention on the part of those denizens, and in general I wish to preclude discussion of fault or failure on the part of potential victims.
In order to infiltrate an NBSI organisation's space, Entity X must pursue diplomatic contact with the NBSI organisation and achieve blue standings so as to be allowed free movement through the space. At any time after receiving blue standings, Entity X may reveal itself to be clandestine hostiles by engaging members of the NBSI organisation in ambushes, commonly called "awoxes" in null-security space. At this point, after some unspecified period of time, Entity X is removed from a parent entity (if a player or small group of players) or its standings are revoked. At this point, Entity X is openly avoided by non-combatants and targeted by combat fleets dedicated to the task for the foreseeable future.
In order to infiltrate an NRDS organisation's space, Entity X must simply fly into the region without having previously committed violent acts in that region or against those entities in some way linked to it. Upon the commission of harm against one or more of the denizens, red standings are applied to Entity X which may be avoided as easily as making a new corporation with the exact same players. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.01.07 14:12:00 -
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Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS. You go on in lengthy ways explaining how impossible it would be for you to do it. Don't be mistaken though, it works pretty good in Providence, despite what the dragons around here try to make you believe.
Well, that's OK, just leave the hard work to the big boys. In truth all you do is whine like babies to the EVE community about your incompetence to grasp the more advanced levels of culture and human behaviour, of course you do it in sligtly different words, trying to cover up your shortages.
Well, there is a way out of your misery. Just back out and admit your mistakes. Humble yourselves, and stop writing all this anti-NRDS propaganda. It just makes you look like some kind of facists tbh. Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5615
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Posted - 2012.01.07 14:16:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS. You go on in lengthy ways explaining how impossible it would be for you to do it. Don't be mistaken though, it works pretty good in Providence, despite what the dragons around here try to make you believe.
Well, that's OK, just leave the hard work to the big boys. In truth all you do is whine like babies to the EVE community about your incompetence to grasp the more advanced levels of culture and human behaviour, of course you do it in sligtly different words, trying to cover up your shortages.
Well, there is a way out of your misery. Just back out and admit your mistakes. Humble yourselves, and stop writing all this anti-NRDS propaganda. It just makes you look like some kind of facists tbh. We here in Goonswarm Federation admit to being both incompetent and fascists, what is your point?
e1: For reals, we once lost our entire space empire because our incompetent space CEO didn't pay the space bill on time. e2: Have you not seen all of our World War II-era Soviet-themed propaganda about Commissar Mittens, Chairman LMAO, etc? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
251
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:25:00 -
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I didn't twist any words, I think NRDS is fine for space tree hugging hippies and the like. Hope it works out for you. Dont forget to set everyone red btw, it makes it look like your the good guys then Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:26:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS. You go on in lengthy ways explaining how impossible it would be for you to do it. Don't be mistaken though, it works pretty good in Providence, despite what the dragons around here try to make you believe.
Well, that's OK, just leave the hard work to the big boys. In truth all you do is whine like babies to the EVE community about your incompetence to grasp the more advanced levels of culture and human behaviour, of course you do it in sligtly different words, trying to cover up your shortages.
Well, there is a way out of your misery. Just back out and admit your mistakes. Humble yourselves, and stop writing all this anti-NRDS propaganda. It just makes you look like some kind of facists tbh.
I like how you completely ignored all the points Lyris made because you have no answer for them. Providence is pretty much a worthless horrible region anyways though, so I can see why you wouldnt care about creating an effective NBSI security appartus for it. |
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Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:52:00 -
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serious postin |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
106
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Posted - 2012.01.07 16:46:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS.
Civil? How is it civil? You have no due process. I was set red to CVA and friends when my alliance invaded Providence (or maybe we were already red). How can you set an entire alliance of 5000 members red just because some of them come and invade your region on the explicit orders of the leadership? Our alliance is a diverse and rich community of elite pvpers, terrible pvpers, bittervets, non-participating ratters, industrialists, scammers, and sweet innocent newbros, yet you set us all red. You know what that is? Racial stereotyping.
Now, granted while I personally may have been invading Providence and may well have shot at CVA and friends (when they bothered to undock), I know that there were a great many non-participating J4Gs in our alliance who did not and have been unfairly tarred by your broadbrush methods. Guilt by association and racial profiling, hardly what I'd call civil
Also while I was invading providence I observed many instances where CVA were not flying Amarrian ships, a great many were flying the ships of the lesser races. I will be reporting this to the Emperess, she and I are good friends (if you know what I mean) |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
929
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Posted - 2012.01.07 20:00:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS. You go on in lengthy ways explaining how impossible it would be for you to do it. Don't be mistaken though, it works pretty good in Providence, despite what the dragons around here try to make you believe.
Well, that's OK, just leave the hard work to the big boys. In truth all you do is whine like babies to the EVE community about your incompetence to grasp the more advanced levels of culture and human behaviour, of course you do it in sligtly different words, trying to cover up your shortages.
Well, there is a way out of your misery. Just back out and admit your mistakes. Humble yourselves, and stop writing all this anti-NRDS propaganda. It just makes you look like some kind of facists tbh.
Wow.. he so mad, he broke character.
And signing your posts makes you look badass, c/d? |
Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
41
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:24:00 -
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"NRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS!" Sincerely, Gloomy Gus, Spaceship Pilot.
This post has been signed and sealed by Gloomy Gus, poster on an internet space ship forum entitled EVE: gate. All Rights Reserved. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5617
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:10:00 -
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:golfclap: Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.01.08 06:41:00 -
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i dont understand how u can compare NRDS and NBSI....and talking about being it serves the same purpose... but to make the picture clear for you... here we go:
A small mining corp decides to take some rare ore form 0.0 space and make small adventure for their corp... can they come to GSF space... You will pop them up and then pod them and send them home back
In our region... they can come, mine, haul and even use a rorqual without being touched by our pilots....(Ofcourse they should watch for NBSI gangs roaming though)
So it seems that you are either trolling or dont get hte whole picture....
We fight hostile ships... we dont blow neutral miners, haulers and deffensless ships like you do ... Although these mainly are the one that get ur kb glow... |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
663
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Posted - 2012.01.08 07:19:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Always nice to see how most NBSI pilots admit to their choise of RoE being because of their incompetency of enforcing the more demanding, but civil, NRDS. You go on in lengthy ways explaining how impossible it would be for you to do it. Don't be mistaken though, it works pretty good in Providence, despite what the dragons around here try to make you believe.
Well, that's OK, just leave the hard work to the big boys. In truth all you do is whine like babies to the EVE community about your incompetence to grasp the more advanced levels of culture and human behaviour, of course you do it in sligtly different words, trying to cover up your shortages.
Well, there is a way out of your misery. Just back out and admit your mistakes. Humble yourselves, and stop writing all this anti-NRDS propaganda. It just makes you look like some kind of facists tbh.
So who is the naive party here again? The 'lets assume everyone is a space friend and wouldn't possibly hurt me' group, or the 'they are obviously not a friend to our organization, fire at will' group.
On a side note- I seriously laughed pretty damn hard at 'advanced levels of culture and human behavior'.. so that's what we call caffeine induced bad-posting now-a-days. I'm sure the creator is thrilled a bunch of us internet spaceship nerds are quite content nit-picking with each other about an internet spaceship 'social' policy, while sitting in our houses, in a single room, for hours... 'communicating' to the imaginary internet spaceship face of other sociopaths about why 'my version of playing is better then yours'.
You truly are a credit to our species and a visionary beyond compare. Please continue to enlighten us with your obviously infallible reasoning behind why we are vastly inferior to you. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
663
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Posted - 2012.01.08 07:25:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:We fight hostile ships... we dont blow neutral miners, haulers and deffensless ships like you do ... Although these mainly are the one that get ur kb glow...
I love nothing more, then the simple joy of blowing miners.
There's obviously an unquestionable difference between 'defenseless' and 'stupid' (aside from extreme justified paranoia), the sooner you find it- the better off you will be; There are bad people in New Eden, I can't remember who all of them are, so if they look silly, or post badly on the forums, they're fair game.. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5627
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:27:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Mohamad Transporte wrote:We fight hostile ships... we dont blow neutral miners, haulers and deffensless ships like you do ... Although these mainly are the one that get ur kb glow... I love nothing more, then the simple joy of blowing miners. :heysexy: Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5627
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:34:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote: A small mining corp decides to take some rare ore form 0.0 space and make small adventure for their corp... can they come to GSF space.
If they first pursue diplomatic contact and obtain blue standings, then, yes, they can. If you take a look at the member corporations of Goonswarm Federations and our Clusterfuck Coalition, you will find dozens of relatively small corporations each composed of people we're perfectly happy to know and harbour within our borders. Each of those member corporations has only one imperative from upon highGÇöthat they maintain a presence in our strategic fleets. Five people from a twenty-man corp consistently showing up to listen to DBRB prattle on about how racial minorities are responsible for his failure to receive an "A" grade in one of his classes las semester is all that it takes for that corp to remain in the good auspices of the Powers That Be, and so to enjoy the protection offered by a superpower war machine.
But you're right, if some random chucklefuck decides to come into our space and set up shop without first pursuing diplomatic contact and without contributing anything to the maintenance of that space, then, yes, that entity is probably going to get destroyed unless it's half-way competent at playing EVE OnlineGÇöin which case, it will easily evade pursuit by such intrepid fellows as myself, and rack up dozens if not hundreds of kills in the region while we run around like decapitated chickens. Goons are not so great at applying subtle tactics to situations, so anything that does not buckle beneath the admittedly impressive weight of a few dozen or hundred of us piling into a fleet and charging head-first at it should have little problem in avoiding us; and, if the entity in question were to maintain chill, perhaps even civil, demeanour in communications throughout this exercise we might just go ahead and offer to be best friends forever.
I kid you not, that is exactly how Goonswarm Federation and TEST Alliance Please Ignore formed a space pact. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
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Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:00:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Please continue to enlighten us with your obviously infallible reasoning behind why we are vastly inferior to you. Well, OK, first of all I would like to make it clear that I dont consider yourself inferior to myself, however, your morals and rules of engagement are. However, since you say
Xolve wrote:I love nothing more, then the simple joy of blowing miners. I am starting to think that may be a mistake. Maybe you are simply genetically inferior afterall. Someone that openly admits blowing up miners is his biggest thrill, and doesn't understand that he himself by admitting this makes it obviously clear to all just how sidetracked he is, ... well, it is sad. Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5630
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:02:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Xolve wrote:I love nothing more, then the simple joy of blowing miners. I am starting to think that may be a mistake. Maybe you are simply genetically inferior afterall. Someone that openly admits blowing up miners is his biggest thrill, and doesn't understand that he himself by admitting this makes it obviously clear to all just how sidetracked he is, ... well, it is sad. It was a sex joke, making fun of the fact that Mohamad Transporteu forgot to include the word "up" in a statement that Xolve initialy quoted, and placed in bold text for emphasis.The statement was something about "blowing miners,"GÇöwhich is a reference to fellatioGÇöas opposed to "blowing up miners,"GÇöwhich is a reference to combatGÇöand so he went with it because he thought it would be funny. And then I went along with him going along with it, which ought to have made it abundantly clear for you or any other reader since my posts are the only posts you (or anyone else) should even bother to read in this thread on these forums. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
665
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:11:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:It was a sex joke, making fun of the fact that Mohamad Transporteu forgot to include the word "up" in a statement that Xolve initialy quoted, and placed in bold text for emphasis.The statement was something about blowing miners, as opposed to blowing up miners, and so he went with it because he thought it would be funny. And then I went along with him going along with it, which ought to have made it abundantly clear for you or any other reader since my posts are the only posts you (or anyone else) should even bother to read in this thread on these forums.
I fully endorsed and/or support this message.
Codo Yagari wrote:I am starting to think that may be a mistake. Maybe you are simply genetically inferior afterall. Someone that openly admits blowing up miners is his biggest thrill, and doesn't understand that he himself by admitting this makes it obviously clear to all just how sidetracked he is, ... well, it is sad.
Declaring me 'genetically inferior' because I will openly engage literally ANY ship that doesn't have a little blue box in the lower right hand corner is simply absurd; by the way, this doesn't make me 'inferior' in any capacity, but cautious. This was however the typical rhetoric to be expected by someone with 'Fleet Admiral' as well as 2 other titles in their signature noting their apparent (in)significance, this isn't ******* TradeWars 2002. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5630
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:17:00 -
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It's like this guy is just itching for a hundred or so goons and friends to undock and set sail for Providence.
Codo Yagari, I see your game, and I'll not be tempted into logging into EVE Online no matter how terrible you are. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
665
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:26:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:It's like this guy is just itching for a hundred or so goons and friends to undock and set sail for Providence.
Codo Yagari, I see your game, and I'll not be tempted into logging into EVE Online no matter how terrible you are.
Pretty much this.
I'm game to listen in on some more CVA "Space Marine/Battle Fleet Gothicka, always in Character" CVA Fleet Commanders bring the 'pain' with bad fits and lolmails. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
330
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:08:00 -
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exterminatus |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5633
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:20:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:exterminatus Negative, strategic value Absolute.
Execute Request Order ADEPTUS ASTARTES ULTRA. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5633
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:23:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:It's like this guy is just itching for a hundred or so goons and friends to undock and set sail for Providence.
Codo Yagari, I see your game, and I'll not be tempted into logging into EVE Online no matter how terrible you are. Pretty much this. I'm game to listen in on some more CVA "Space Marine/Battle Fleet Gothicka, always in Character" CVA Fleet Commanders bring the 'pain' with bad fits and lolmails.
I think this calls for me to make a post on the IGS. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Praerian
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:55:00 -
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As a diplomatic answer and to the point lyris made:
NBSI makes life so much easier for Alliances, you can basically keep your borders closed, providence however will always be more vulnerable to attack as most entities will launch neutral awoxers into provi up front to gather intel.
Provi basically has a two fold effect on EVE, or did before CVA /LFA went emo on AAA, a place for bears to get used to 0.0 before heading off to some of the bigger powerblocks and for people who try to stay out of the same powerblocks to hide away and have a little fun.
What we're now trying to do now is return it to the status quo that existed before, so people can have some pvp fun without the threat of constantly losing space reds can have some fun roaming and have some decent fights. Problem is the moment we win a fight some selectively challenged person posts how ++ber we are etc which just inflames the larger entities to come and put us back in our place.
The brighter people just keep calm and post GF's knowing that the outcome next time could be completely different.
We don't have the isk making facilities of a lot of larger alliances and the fleets are nowhere near as professional but they do have some spirit and can give some of the younger players a bit of a learning experience.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5640
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Posted - 2012.01.09 00:33:00 -
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Praerian wrote: We don't have the isk making facilities of a lot of larger alliances and the fleets are nowhere near as professional but they do have some spirit and can give some of the younger players a bit of a learning experience.
To be fair I always thought it was somewhat impressive that CVA maintained a relatively large sovereignty and numerous stations in spite of the fact that the space was relatively poor and unprofitable, in stark comparison to most nullsec blocs whose total territory size and station quantity is limited by the amount of money garnered from moon mining profits at the alliance level. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
215
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Posted - 2012.01.09 01:53:00 -
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An Example of NRDS policy in CVA -
You go to Providence space.
A "CVA Friend" locks you.
You lock them back.
*Note I didn't say anyone opened fire*
Your alliance gets set red.
I actually discussed this with some sort of diplo....even he had complete stupidity for an reason for why that was offensive.
Conclusion - complete...and utter bull####.
At least the Goons and company keep it real and keep it rational when it comes to policies.
NBSI isn't easier....its common sense.
NRDS for all of its honor and pomp/circumstances is nothing more than diplomatic nightmare from hell with 10 to 100 times more effort involved and political effort and he said she said claims.
I think NRDS is a pipe dream that no one well really ever accomplish because someone is always out to get someone with a little lying and fast talking. |
Xystance
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
197
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Posted - 2012.01.09 02:16:00 -
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Meanwhile...
The 99 Percent valiantly fights the oppression of NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) oppression and encroachment on freedom in The Great Wildlands by True Reign. Don't worry friends, we're doing the lord's work to keep GW free.
Keep rules about engagement out of 0.0 and cordoned off highsec, enforced by neutral, unimpeachable and impassonate CONCORD and Faction Police and away from the corrupting influence of CVA, Yulai, and all those who would tell us how to play "our" game.
First the liberation of Great Wildlands, next... Providence. |
Themick Mccoy
18
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Posted - 2012.01.09 02:29:00 -
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I don't know what everyone is arguing about honestly...I get nervous when people land on grid...in high-sec,
Okay stupid jokes aside I think people throwing insults out on both sides is getting tedious.
Solution:
DSS (Dock and Ship Spin)
I'm a noob! If you catch me ingame, don't bother with a ransom, I ain't paying! I'm still learning the pvpies, plus, I'm a Jew. |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
106
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Posted - 2012.01.09 06:22:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:i dont understand how u can compare NRDS and NBSI....and talking about being it serves the same purpose... but to make the picture clear for you... here we go:
A small mining corp decides to take some rare ore form 0.0 space and make small adventure for their corp... can they come to GSF space... You will pop them up and then pod them and send them home back
In our region... they can come, mine, haul and even use a rorqual without being touched by our pilots....(Ofcourse they should watch for NBSI gangs roaming though)
So it seems that you are either trolling or dont get hte whole picture....
We fight hostile ships... we dont blow neutral miners, haulers and deffensless ships like you do ... Although these mainly are the one that get ur kb glow...
Yes but provi is literally **** and the only reason you keep it is because nobody wants it |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
668
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Posted - 2012.01.09 06:44:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Yes but provi is literally **** and the only reason you keep it is because nobody wants it
Pretty much this.
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Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2012.01.09 07:05:00 -
[36] - Quote
Did Aralis every return from his whiny temper-tantrum storm off? Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
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Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.01.09 07:37:00 -
[37] - Quote
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Mohamad Transporte wrote:i dont understand how u can compare NRDS and NBSI....and talking about being it serves the same purpose... but to make the picture clear for you... here we go:
A small mining corp decides to take some rare ore form 0.0 space and make small adventure for their corp... can they come to GSF space... You will pop them up and then pod them and send them home back
In our region... they can come, mine, haul and even use a rorqual without being touched by our pilots....(Ofcourse they should watch for NBSI gangs roaming though)
So it seems that you are either trolling or dont get hte whole picture....
We fight hostile ships... we dont blow neutral miners, haulers and deffensless ships like you do ... Although these mainly are the one that get ur kb glow... Yes but provi is literally **** and the only reason you keep it is because nobody wants it
For pets .. its not
for pvp'ers.. its heaven |
Collin Dow
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
9
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Posted - 2012.01.09 09:12:00 -
[38] - Quote
Xystance wrote:Meanwhile...
The 99 Percent valiantly fights the oppression of NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) oppression and encroachment on freedom in The Great Wildlands by True Reign. Don't worry friends, we're doing the lord's work to keep GW free.
Keep rules about engagement out of 0.0 and cordoned off highsec, enforced by neutral, unimpeachable and impassonate CONCORD and Faction Police and away from the corrupting influence of CVA, Yulai, and all those who would tell us how to play "our" game.
First the liberation of Great Wildlands, next... Providence.
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Hammez Coopez
Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.09 14:30:00 -
[39] - Quote
Interesting reading both sides of the coin. I fly around provi and it feels safer than empire. Bumped into a few nbsi corps out in catch area and they quite chatty :-)
Everyday eve gets bigger, anothet bloody mail!
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
444
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Posted - 2012.01.09 15:17:00 -
[40] - Quote
I, for one, enjoy NRDS space such as Provi. Everyone is so friendly and happy-go-lucky, and it gives me a MUCH wider selection of targets to shoot. |
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Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
676
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:29:00 -
[41] - Quote
Mohamad Transporte wrote:for pvp'ers.. its heaven
The only redeeming factor of Provi actually, is it gives us PvP types a place to go on our 'off' time and get some ~gudfites~. I'd dig up the battle report from a year or so ago, but 11 nano ships, completely non-consensual anally injured 80+ CVA guys, but I don't think anyone needs proof that CVA is garbage, and nobody gives a single gram of **** about Yulai whatever (maybe if you added another title to your sig, we may care, maybe).
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
Praerian wrote:Problem is the moment we win a fight some selectively challenged person posts how ++ber we are etc which just inflames the larger entities to come and put us back in our place.
Please name and shame these people, we will only come for them, promise. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5664
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Praerian wrote:Problem is the moment we win a fight some selectively challenged person posts how ++ber we are etc which just inflames the larger entities to come and put us back in our place.
Please name and shame these people, we will only come for them, promise. Confirming what this poster said. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
106
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:58:00 -
[44] - Quote
Praerian wrote:As a diplomatic answer and to the point lyris made:
NBSI makes life so much easier for Alliances, you can basically keep your borders closed, providence however will always be more vulnerable to attack as most entities will launch neutral awoxers into provi up front to gather intel.
Provi basically has a two fold effect on EVE, or did before CVA /LFA went emo on AAA, a place for bears to get used to 0.0 before heading off to some of the bigger powerblocks and for people who try to stay out of the same powerblocks to hide away and have a little fun.
What we're now trying to do now is return it to the status quo that existed before, so people can have some pvp fun without the threat of constantly losing space reds can have some fun roaming and have some decent fights. Problem is the moment we win a fight some selectively challenged person posts how ++ber we are etc which just inflames the larger entities to come and put us back in our place.
The brighter people just keep calm and post GF's knowing that the outcome next time could be completely different.
We don't have the isk making facilities of a lot of larger alliances and the fleets are nowhere near as professional but they do have some spirit and can give some of the younger players a bit of a learning experience.
Of course your version of NRDS is to have most of EVE on your redlist. You even have the only other major alliance that operated NRDS set red
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ineluctable.
2
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Posted - 2012.01.14 05:09:00 -
[45] - Quote
Postin' in a thread with CVA pets in it, been too long since any attempts at "salvation for caod" has been made. \o/ |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
14
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Posted - 2012.01.14 05:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
CVA has pets? |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
684
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Posted - 2012.01.14 09:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
WarFireV wrote:CVA has pets?
The uninformed, are uninformed. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
SirFur
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.01.15 07:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
The aim of NRDS to my understanding was never to make space 'safe'. That is what NBSI is good at doing. Any unknown entity is immediately considered hostile and every attempt is taken to take them down. NRDS considers an unknown entity a friend until proven otherwise.
The concept of NRDS is simply there to promote more influx of players to the region so that there is an increase of trade and higher ecomomy. It also provides a starter position for newbies to null sec without actually being involved in a bigger alliance. Providence used to be in the old days one of the most populated null sec regions. In addition, it also provides small corps and smaller alliances a feel for null sec in a society that will welcome them as long as they abide by the ROE. This is mainly what NRDS is good for.
The region of providence has always been great for PvP on both sides for the fact that it has a high target-rich concentration quite often with little PvP experience...and much potential for producing tears....which attracts many PvPers looking for kills and of course many (experienced) PvPers in providence await such incursions though often lack the means or ability to overcome them, quite often because the invading forces are usually much better equipped.
It was and still is a good place for newbies to learn about null sec with minimal commitment but the definitive null sec experience for sure is with an NBSI alliance operating with larger numbers, a feature that NRDS is not able to regularly muster as NBSI is far more preferred ROE for the security and simplicity it involves. Providence has a good number of friendly players and does have a good family feel in most alliances and between allies...many of whom have been in the area for over two years struggling through many difficulties, which has made them closer, and I wish them all the best, but I have moved on now. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
215
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Posted - 2012.01.15 07:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
itt goons and provi residents fight over which alliance better embodies the true spirit of eve |
SirFur
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.01.15 10:55:00 -
[50] - Quote
Drake Draconis wrote:
I think NRDS is a pipe dream that no one well really ever accomplish because someone is always out to get someone with a little lying and fast talking.
BTW NRDS worked very well before the tripled A war era. lots of political BS maybe but the system was very much in place and worked extremely well. They have been around ad long as they have because they are good at what they do.
Even though I have left providence behind I can still appreciate what CVA has done though does not necessarily mean I agree with everything. Life in FA is very different and tbh I prefer it much better yes. |
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Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
We're leaving out an important alternative doctring. SBED or Shoot Blues ErryDay. This is TEST's official stance. |
NearNihil
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:48:00 -
[52] - Quote
Hrald wrote:We're leaving out an important alternative doctring. SBED or Shoot Blues ErryDay. This is TEST's official stance. ISSI - In Space, Shoot It. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5967
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
Hrald wrote:We're leaving out an important alternative doctring. SBED or Shoot Blues ErryDay. This is TEST's official stance. This is a minor mutation of Theta Squad's custom, "Not Blue Don't Shoot It" policy introduced by thecrate. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5967
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Xolve wrote:Mohamad Transporte wrote:for pvp'ers.. its heaven The only redeeming factor of Provi actually, is it gives us PvP types a place to go on our 'off' time and get some ~gudfites~. I'd dig up the battle report from a year or so ago, but 11 nano ships, completely non-consensual anally injured 80+ CVA guys, but I don't think anyone needs proof that CVA is garbage, and nobody gives a single gram of **** about Yulai whatever (maybe if you added another title to your sig, we may care, maybe). The only thing keeping Providence from being routinely ransacked on a scale similar to IRC's space is the fact that IRC's space is so much closer to Mittanigrad than is Providence, the same being in the ass-end of nowhere on the other side of the space map. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5967
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:31:00 -
[55] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:itt goons and provi residents fight over which alliance better embodies the true spirit of eve Now we just need Elitist Ops to show up and argue with us about who are the true goons. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5967
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:35:00 -
[56] - Quote
SirFur wrote:The aim of NRDS to my understanding was never to make space 'safe'. That is what NBSI is good at doing. Any unknown entity is immediately considered hostile and every attempt is taken to take them down. NRDS considers an unknown entity a friend until proven otherwise.
The concept of NRDS is simply there to promote more influx of players to the region so that there is an increase of trade and higher ecomomy. It also provides a starter position for newbies to null sec without actually being involved in a bigger alliance. Providence used to be in the old days one of the most populated null sec regions. In addition, it also provides small corps and smaller alliances a feel for null sec in a society that will welcome them as long as they abide by the ROE. This is mainly what NRDS is good for, as well as of course the opportunity to make new friends and allies to expand the Holders Coalition.
The region of providence has always been great for PvP on both sides for the fact that it has a high target-rich concentration quite often with little PvP experience...and much potential for producing tears....which attracts many PvPers looking for kills and of course many (experienced) PvPers in providence await such incursions though often lack the means or ability to overcome them, quite often because the invading forces are usually much better equipped.
It was and still is a good place for newbies to learn about null sec with minimal commitment but the definitive null sec experience for sure is with an NBSI alliance operating with larger numbers, a feature that NRDS is not able to regularly muster as NBSI is far more preferred ROE for the security and simplicity it involves. Providence has a good number of friendly players and does have a good family feel in most alliances and between allies...many of whom have been in the area for over two years struggling through many difficulties, which has made them closer, and I wish them all the best, but I have moved on now. I mucked around down in CVA space for a bit prior to joining Goonswarm, and I never felt safe because I could never relax. Any of the people in local could have been bad guys, all the time, and I was just a random nobody so it's not like I could really form up a gang to fly with other people and have safety in numbers. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
SirFur
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I mucked around down in CVA space for a bit prior to joining Goonswarm, and I never felt safe because I could never relax. Any of the people in local could have been bad guys, all the time, and I was just a random nobody so it's not like I could really form up a gang to fly with other people and have safety in numbers.
That is one of the problems I'm afraid of NRDS, but at least it meant you could muck around safe or not. As I said NRDS isn't to make space safe. Just more accessible to randoms who just wanna feel for it. As a corp or small alliance it works well, especially if you decide to habitate a particular area of another alliance who holds space. (CVA tends to be least welcoming of neutral players sometimes...)
However, living there for a while kinda gives you the ability, to some extents, to be able to sniff out a bad situation, usually through misfortune and/or losses, but the 'expereience' does give you some insight. I lived there for around 2 years or so. I did find that 6 months or so of living in the area you knew exactly what would happen when certain folks would be in the area or neutrals flying particular ships, in essence, sensing danger before it hit you. Didn't necessarily mean you got more kills - just meant you knew when to avoid a fight.
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Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.01.16 11:42:00 -
[58] - Quote
NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else.
I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization. Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
329
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else.
I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization.
NRDS is about players trying to be CONCORD, but without all the silly superpowers. Its not safe for anyone, because you never know if that guy is hostile, and so must assume everyone is. But hey, at least CVA will be there in 30 seconds to save you... Whats that you say? CVA are just normal players, and so have a response time measured, most likely, in hours?
Well, wtf. Thats not safe at all. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
259
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else.
I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization.
NRDS isnt about making space safe its about people like CVA, or Electus Matari, Yulai Fed or any of teh other so called peacekeepers acting like the space police, setting people red arbitrarily just so you can shoot tehm and still say you are the good guys.
No one is safer in NRDS space, it just means you can go in under a neutral badge and gank peopel until teh sapce police set you red, then work around that and end up neutral so you can do teh same thing again. NRDS is simply another way to enforce some power, making you feel good about yourself.
In NBSI space you have as much safety as you can get in nullsec, safe for your allies. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
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Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
687
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:09:00 -
[61] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else.
I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization.
Since you have failed to add yet another title to your signature.
Your argument is invalid.
That is all. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Rommell Drako
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
6
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Xolve wrote:
Since you have failed to add yet another title to your signature.
Your argument is invalid.
That is all.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6083
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:38:00 -
[63] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization. Please provide a citation or proof for this "fact". Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6083
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:39:00 -
[64] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else. Please cease your ad hominem attacks against your detractors and address the arguments presented you. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Susie Chow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:43:00 -
[65] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Codo Yagari wrote:NRDS is about making space safe for everyone. It was always about idealism of simply being nice and friendly.
NBSI is about making space safe for yourself. Chosen by those who deep inside dont trust themselves and thus are unable to trust anyone else. Please cease your ad hominem attacks against your detractors and address the arguments presented you.
Yes, here in CAOD we only tolerate level-headed, logical posts adhering to proper grammar and the principles of Lincoln-Douglas debate. |
Specctor
Sicarius. Sicarius..
0
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Posted - 2012.01.17 13:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
Cliff Richard operates on a strictly NRDS policy and he's an evil man who has a secret santuary of animal abuse rumoured to be situated in providence...... How do you explain this????
Also I'm very important and never wear the same pair of socks for more than 2 hours......
Barry Manalow once date raped a chicken nugget in delv.....
Speedos are linked to testicular cancer....
I hope I've made clear the differences between NRDS and NBSI politics with this uncalled for post they both are fuelled on bull **** isotopes :) have a nice day.. |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
688
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Posted - 2012.01.17 14:55:00 -
[67] - Quote
Codo Yagari wrote:I know you'll keep going on about how NBSI is the supreme RoE, how good it makes you feel when you practise it bla bla bla, and how riduculous and faulty NRDS is, and is only for nerds etc etc, but the fact remains that NBSI is the RoE of the pirate, and NRDS is the RoE of the guardians of civilization.
You're a self-deluded idiot, thought you should know.
I have attained the ultimate in carebear notoriety with a Security Status of 5.05, but belong to a NRDS Coalition; by your logic, I am not a pirate, and again your argument is proven invalid. Funny that you continue to link NRDS policies with real life mental deficiencies (this doesn't help your argument, just saying).
Edit- I still love blowing miners. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.01.17 15:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
Sorry Rico, however, u still dont get the picture....
Let me simplify...
NBSI is not about being safer.. its about shooting everything that moves ... even a lone miner trying to mine some free 0.0 ore with laser turrets....
We however, dont shoot those....
get it people.. this is not an argue where is safer because we know the fact.... we live it... its about respecting neutrals....
I hope its clear now... |
Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:22:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mohamad Transporte wrote:Sorry Rico, however, u still dont get the picture....
Let me simplify...
NBSI is not about being safer.. its about shooting everything that moves ... even a lone miner trying to mine some free 0.0 ore with laser turrets....
We however, dont shoot those....
get it people.. this is not an argue where is safer because we know the fact.... we live it... its about respecting neutrals....
I hope its clear now...
Should a Tiger respect a Lamb? The Official Non-Official Goonswarm Federation |
Prince Kobol
158
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:34:00 -
[70] - Quote
Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Mohamad Transporte wrote:Sorry Rico, however, u still dont get the picture....
Let me simplify...
NBSI is not about being safer.. its about shooting everything that moves ... even a lone miner trying to mine some free 0.0 ore with laser turrets....
We however, dont shoot those....
get it people.. this is not an argue where is safer because we know the fact.... we live it... its about respecting neutrals....
I hope its clear now... Should a Tiger respect a Lamb?
If its hold a f**king big gun... yep
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.01.17 19:24:00 -
[71] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Mohamad Transporte wrote:Sorry Rico, however, u still dont get the picture....
Let me simplify...
NBSI is not about being safer.. its about shooting everything that moves ... even a lone miner trying to mine some free 0.0 ore with laser turrets....
We however, dont shoot those....
get it people.. this is not an argue where is safer because we know the fact.... we live it... its about respecting neutrals....
I hope its clear now... Should a Tiger respect a Lamb? If its hold a f**king big gun... yep
They seem to be holding big mining guns every time I see them. The Official Non-Official Goonswarm Federation |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
335
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Posted - 2012.01.17 19:26:00 -
[72] - Quote
Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Leeroy McJenkins wrote: Should a Tiger respect a Lamb?
If its hold a f**king big gun... yep They seem to be holding big mining guns every time I see them. Have you never wondered why mining lasers don't gouge huge holes in your ship? I still think you should be able to mine ships... Take down a titan with a hulk swarm! o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
688
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Posted - 2012.01.18 02:08:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mohamad Transporte wrote:
NBSI is not about being safer.. its about shooting everything that moves ... even a lone miner trying to mine some free 0.0 ore with laser turrets....
We however, dont shoot those.... .
Yes you do, you just arbitrarily set them red first.
You can try and save face and start by answering the intellectual debate that started on page 1, or you can continue to shitpost and be ridiculed; the choice is yours. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6203
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:02:00 -
[74] - Quote
On that note, I am still waiting for arguments to be addressed. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Spikeflach
The Drake Project The Dominion Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.18 22:42:00 -
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CVA is, in fact, NBSI. They just set the good bar at neutral and bad bar at red, while other alliances and corps set them at blue and neutral respectively.
With a lion and lamb anology, if the lion is supposed to restrain themselves from eating a lamb, then it would mean that even if a corporation was on the red list, as long as the pilot is in a "defenseless" ship, then you do not shoot it.
Cause not every person in a corp or alliance may actually be "pirates". I mean, usually people avoid causing civilian casualties right? |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
690
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:16:00 -
[76] - Quote
Spikeflach wrote:Cause not every person in a corp or alliance may actually be "pirates". I mean, usually people avoid causing civilian casualties right?
'Defenseless' is a relative word...
..ever seen a bait-tanked Bustard light a cyne? I have, the results were a pretty favorable counter to your 'defenseless' ship theory. This is EvE, shoot first- let the diplo's sort it out. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
mrmooo
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:05:00 -
[77] - Quote
Spikeflach wrote:CVA is, in fact, NBSI. They just set the good bar at neutral and bad bar at red, while other alliances and corps set them at blue and neutral respectively.
but that would be "not blue or neutral shoot it" NBNSI or in other words "not red don't shoot "NRDS |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:18:00 -
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Spikeflach wrote:CVA is, in fact, NBSI. They just set the good bar at neutral and bad bar at red, while other alliances and corps set them at blue and neutral respectively.
An NRDS organization, by setting the good bar at neutral, treat neutrals and unknowns as possible friends. Newcomers and the average citizens of EVE are treated friendly, per default.
The "other" alliances system (NBSI), considers neutrals to be hostile entites (or at least targets that are fun to shoot at), cause them to treat the average citizen of EVE as enemies, thus in effect they have declared war against civilization itself.
That is why NRDS is friendly, and NBSI is unfriendly, to make it short and simple.
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Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
690
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:03:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Spikeflach wrote:CVA is, in fact, NBSI. They just set the good bar at neutral and bad bar at red, while other alliances and corps set them at blue and neutral respectively. An NRDS organization, by setting the good bar at neutral, treat neutrals and unknowns as possible friends. Newcomers and the average citizens of EVE are treated friendly, per default. The "other" alliances system (NBSI), considers neutrals to be hostile entites (or at least targets that are fun to shoot at), cause them to treat the average citizen of EVE as enemies, thus in effect they have declared war against civilization itself. That is why NRDS is friendly, and NBSI is unfriendly, to make it short and simple.
Shouldn't you be focused on more pressing matters then shitposting? I heard you were about to get raped by Outbreak. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
249
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:30:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:Spikeflach wrote:CVA is, in fact, NBSI. They just set the good bar at neutral and bad bar at red, while other alliances and corps set them at blue and neutral respectively. An NRDS organization, by setting the good bar at neutral, treat neutrals and unknowns as possible friends. Newcomers and the average citizens of EVE are treated friendly, per default. The "other" alliances system (NBSI), considers neutrals to be hostile entites (or at least targets that are fun to shoot at), cause them to treat the average citizen of EVE as enemies, thus in effect they have declared war against civilization itself. That is why NRDS is friendly, and NBSI is unfriendly, to make it short and simple.
*sneezesbull####sneezes*
Seriously? Where do you come up with this crap?
A Neutral can be anything and anyone...a spai....a scout....thats what makes NRDS so bloody exploitable.
And for those who are actually enjoy such things...if you lock me up for whatever reason...and I lock you back..I get set red.
Sorry....but you people are just flat full of it. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6356
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:49:00 -
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I rather like NRDS space. I just wish there was some located closer to Deklein. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
693
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:17:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:I rather like NRDS space. I just wish there was some located closer to Deklein.
I see what you did there. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
20
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Posted - 2012.01.24 12:22:00 -
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BLUE IS JUST ANOTHER TARGET |
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