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curedCrow
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:31:00 -
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so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp?...... you have to sit there and SLOWWLLYYYY regen the 5-15% shield you get from bonuses. and don't even dream of getting shield bonuses if you have to move to another system to kill someone. at least make it so my leadership bonus sticks with me in another system for a set amount of time and gets taken away after say 30 secs if my bonus ship doesn't jump in as well. that way i could at least recharge in one system then move out to another while keeping my new ehp. but even that is convoluted and STUPID. people always mention regen in this arguement!!!??? but that takes forever and a day to fill that way!!! wtf this has had poeple pissed for YEARS. why haven't they fixed this? well ccp? to fricking lazy? or just dont give half a **** what we think?
I mean COMMON CCP. this is the stuff eve gamers are pissed about. the way that there are obvious GLARING unfair issues and you don't even ATTEMPT to fix them. this is one of many reason why pvping in shield is so inferior to armor!!! then you go and give armor tankers the slave sets and make it even more unfair??/!!!! oh but what about crystals you ask????!!! tengu cyclone mach and nightmare. those are the only ships they even help all that much. even then you have to pimp fit them AND fly them oddly and keep the number of enemies to a minimal to even use them!!! this is just day one stuff guys. keep your tanking styles balanced!!!!
so basically unless you have logi there to repair you up to full EVERY TIME YOU leave a system you can kiss your shield resist bonuses goodbye. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:41:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp?
Plenty of people |
curedCrow
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:48:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp? Plenty of people
how so? besides the few machs and tengus ..... which you need to spend billion upon billions to get working right.... who is flying active tank? the retards??? |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:49:00 -
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Isn't this fixed on SiSi now? |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.07 04:48:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp? Plenty of people how so? besides the few machs and tengus ..... which you need to spend billion upon billions to get working right.... who is flying active tank? the retards???
Confirming matari exodus are well known retards who fly active shield tempests and everything else. I have never seen Jaster arcturus engage a dozen canes in his tengu. (retards = good pvpers in what ever language you speak, yes?)
In addition, nobody active tanks cyclones or sleipnirs, ever. I have also never seen Willl adama flying around in an active tanked drake. I have never seen a jaguar with a medium shield booster, nor hawks, nor harpies. Garmon did not lose an active shield cynabal today. I didnt have an active tanked maelstrom in my fleet today, nor do I believe they exist. |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.01.07 05:55:00 -
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Confirming no one has ever active tanked a jag, hawk or maelstrom effectively. |
curedCrow
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.07 08:06:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp? Plenty of people how so? besides the few machs and tengus ..... which you need to spend billion upon billions to get working right.... who is flying active tank? the retards??? Confirming matari exodus are well known retards who fly active shield tempests and everything else. I have never seen Jaster arcturus engage a dozen canes in his tengu. (retards = good pvpers in what ever language you speak, yes?) In addition, nobody active tanks cyclones or sleipnirs, ever. I have also never seen Willl adama flying around in an active tanked drake. I have never seen a jaguar with a medium shield booster, nor hawks, nor harpies. Garmon did not lose an active shield cynabal today. I didnt have an active tanked maelstrom in my fleet today, nor do I believe they exist.
matari exodis? why the flying **** nuggets would i care what they fly? there are all of 5-7 ships out of the hundreds in even that can properly pvp active tank. and most of them are not even caldari. you know the main shield faction??!!! im arguing that for some reason armor tankers get instant extra armor but shield tankers have to wait till next month to regen thier shields. i lose a good 30-40 thousand ehp every time i make a jump!!!
and when some one says never ...... try to pull your head out your ass and learn what a generalization is. retards i swear. try to debate my thought not just choose a fact and blurt some trollish comments asshats. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.07 08:19:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp? Plenty of people how so? besides the few machs and tengus ..... which you need to spend billion upon billions to get working right.... who is flying active tank? the retards??? Confirming matari exodus are well known retards who fly active shield tempests and everything else. I have never seen Jaster arcturus engage a dozen canes in his tengu. (retards = good pvpers in what ever language you speak, yes?) In addition, nobody active tanks cyclones or sleipnirs, ever. I have also never seen Willl adama flying around in an active tanked drake. I have never seen a jaguar with a medium shield booster, nor hawks, nor harpies. Garmon did not lose an active shield cynabal today. I didnt have an active tanked maelstrom in my fleet today, nor do I believe they exist. matari exodis? why the flying **** nuggets would i care what they fly? there are all of 5-7 ships out of the hundreds in even that can properly pvp active tank. and most of them are not even caldari. you know the main shield faction??!!! im arguing that for some reason armor tankers get instant extra armor but shield tankers have to wait till next month to regen thier shields. i lose a good 30-40 thousand ehp every time i make a jump!!! and when some one says never ...... try to pull your head out your ass and learn what a generalization is. retards i swear. try to debate my thought not just choose a fact and blurt some trollish comments asshats.
Show me your 400,000 shield ehp fit that is flying around without logi.
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curedCrow
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.07 09:35:00 -
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Show me your 400,000 shield ehp fit that is flying around without logi. [/quote] you have looked at the stats of a faction fit tengu with a booster tengu have you not? or are you just to stupid to piece it together?
EDIT
sooo i guess ccp does think this is an issue.... seeing as they plan on including the very change im asking for with the next patch!!!! its already implemented on sisi!!!!! hahahahaha thanks ccp. and sorry for being a ****. |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2012.01.07 10:31:00 -
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OP sounds like a Drake pilot pissed off he can't tank Oracles and Tornados longer. |
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Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.07 14:57:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:Show me your 400,000 shield ehp fit that is flying around without logi.
you have looked at the stats of a faction fit tengu with a booster tengu have you not? or are you just to stupid to piece it together?
EDIT
sooo i guess ccp does think this is an issue.... seeing as they plan on including the very change im asking for with the next patch!!!! its already implemented on sisi!!!!! hahahahaha thanks ccp. and sorry for being a ****.[/quote]
Yeah, i have. But #1, thats not 400k shield ehp unless you are putting lolestamels on it, and #2, you already said in the OP you arent talking about many billion isk tengus. |
curedCrow
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.07 20:56:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:Show me your 400,000 shield ehp fit that is flying around without logi.
you have looked at the stats of a faction fit tengu with a booster tengu have you not? or are you just to stupid to piece it together? EDIT sooo i guess ccp does think this is an issue.... seeing as they plan on including the very change im asking for with the next patch!!!! its already implemented on sisi!!!!! hahahahaha thanks ccp. and sorry for being a ****.
Yeah, i have. But #1, thats not 400k shield ehp unless you are putting lolestamels on it, and #2, you already said in the OP you arent talking about many billion isk tengus.[/quote]
first of all you dont need 400000 ehp to have 20-30 thousand ehp loss when leadership bonuses are applied. seeing as you gain a little over 13 percent shield amount when leadership is applied. so lets look at it this way. 13% of 300000 is what? a little over .... hmmmm 30 thousand?? yeah look at that!!! math is fun!!!!!!!!!
and who said i was flying without logi? i never said i wasn't. just that unless you willing to re rep yourself every time you leave a system and give away your alts name and make your alt shoot-able...... that your phucked. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:11:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:and who said i was flying without logi? i never said i wasn't. just that unless you willing to re rep yourself every time you leave a system and give away your alts name and make your alt shoot-able...... that your phucked.
my alt might be shot! the horror! the HOR-ROR! |
Obsidiana
White-Noise
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Posted - 2012.01.07 22:31:00 -
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So wait, this is a complaint about passive shields being under powered? ItGÇÖs very balanced with other types of tanking if you understand it.
Buffer Tanking Shield: Be thankful they regen sans cap modules. Buffer armor tanks do not enjoy this luxury, but they do get instant gang boosts. That said, if you dock, you get free regens; buffer armor tankers have to pay for that kind of trick.
Regen Passive Tanking Shields: What you really care about is the 30% mark. That is the maximum regen and the life or death point. The regen that takes forever to gain melts away in an instant; it's nearly useless. The gang bonus really helps you regen rather than EHP.
Oh ya, you can even rep while cloaked in either case. No armor tanker can do that at all.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 00:19:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Isn't this fixed on SiSi now? Yes. OP is complaining about something that is already fixed. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.01.08 03:03:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSoFCC26KGw
most of the stuff I've seen garmon fly is active tank...
no problems here :) |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.08 03:20:00 -
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The difference being that active armor tanks are actually functional in PvP solo; where shield tanks are generally not.
Even I can Solo PvP in a Active tanked Myrmi; something I've never been able to do in a shield fit. Still lost the Myrmi, but being solo against 5 and damn near taking down their Rapier; I didn't feel all that bad about it.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12791948
Really, that was the best fight I've had, and it probably lasted around 5 minutes.
P.S. Not my character anymore; was sold shortly after. Wasn't originally either for that matter. |
Jaigar
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:58:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:The difference being that active armor tanks are actually functional in PvP solo; where shield tanks are generally not. Even I can Solo PvP in a Active tanked Myrmi; something I've never been able to do in a shield fit. Still lost the Myrmi, but being solo against 5 and damn near taking down their Rapier; I didn't feel all that bad about it. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12791948Really, that was the best fight I've had, and it probably lasted around 5 minutes. P.S. Not my character anymore; was sold shortly after. Wasn't originally either for that matter.
WTF is a sleipnir? |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:05:00 -
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I'm going to tell everyone I know that I saw someone from POD whining on the forums about game balance next time I am in nourv. |
M'nu
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:25:00 -
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I used to work with autistic children, and what you wrote was the hardest thing I have ever tried to read. |
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Angel Violette
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:51:00 -
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UGH.. Who gave the keyboard back to Crow ? |
clantinkler
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:55:00 -
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Don't worry too much guys Crow is just as annoying on teamspeak too :) |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:20:00 -
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Jaigar wrote:Mars Theran wrote:The difference being that active armor tanks are actually functional in PvP solo; where shield tanks are generally not. Even I can Solo PvP in a Active tanked Myrmi; something I've never been able to do in a shield fit. Still lost the Myrmi, but being solo against 5 and damn near taking down their Rapier; I didn't feel all that bad about it. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12791948Really, that was the best fight I've had, and it probably lasted around 5 minutes. P.S. Not my character anymore; was sold shortly after. Wasn't originally either for that matter. WTF is a sleipnir?
expensive? |
Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:42:00 -
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BUMP!!11oneone!111111one |
Laurence Pinkitin
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.09 06:10:00 -
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curedCrow wrote:Michael Harari wrote:curedCrow wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp? Plenty of people how so? besides the few machs and tengus ..... which you need to spend billion upon billions to get working right.... who is flying active tank? the retards???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=975r0RRE4B4&feature=fvsr
watch. |
H3ndrix
Commonwealth Mercenaries Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:49:00 -
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bumpedybump |
Angel Violette
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:53:00 -
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Nothing to see here ladies and gents CCP has taken care of this on the next patch, And dont be too hard on Crow He is .. Ummm ..Special |
clantinkler
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2012.01.10 01:00:00 -
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so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp?...... you have to sit there and SLOWWLLYYYY regen the 5-15% shield you get from bonuses. and don't even dream of getting shield bonuses if you have to move to another system to kill someone. at least make it so my leadership bonus sticks with me in another system for a set amount of time and gets taken away after say 30 secs if my bonus ship doesn't jump in as well. that way i could at least recharge in one system then move out to another while keeping my new ehp. but even that is convoluted and STUPID. people always mention regen in this arguement!!!??? but that takes forever and a day to fill that way!!! wtf this has had poeple pissed for YEARS. why haven't they fixed this? well ccp? to fricking lazy? or just dont give half a **** what we think?
I mean COMMON CCP. this is the stuff eve gamers are pissed about. the way that there are obvious GLARING unfair issues and you don't even ATTEMPT to fix them. this is one of many reason why pvping in shield is so inferior to armor!!! then you go and give armor tankers the slave sets and make it even more unfair??/!!!! oh but what about crystals you ask????!!! tengu cyclone mach and nightmare. those are the only ships they even help all that much. even then you have to pimp fit them AND fly them oddly and keep the number of enemies to a minimal to even use them!!! this is just day one stuff guys. keep your tanking styles balanced!!!!
so basically unless you have logi there to repair you up to full EVERY TIME YOU leave a system you can kiss your shield resist bonuses goodbye.
This is the original post from curedcrow, i`ve posted this so you can all see what a dumbass we have to put up with.... |
Angel Violette
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
5
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Posted - 2012.01.10 01:04:00 -
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clantinkler wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp?...... you have to sit there and SLOWWLLYYYY regen the 5-15% shield you get from bonuses. and don't even dream of getting shield bonuses if you have to move to another system to kill someone. at least make it so my leadership bonus sticks with me in another system for a set amount of time and gets taken away after say 30 secs if my bonus ship doesn't jump in as well. that way i could at least recharge in one system then move out to another while keeping my new ehp. but even that is convoluted and STUPID. people always mention regen in this arguement!!!??? but that takes forever and a day to fill that way!!! wtf this has had poeple pissed for YEARS. why haven't they fixed this? well ccp? to fricking lazy? or just dont give half a **** what we think?
I mean COMMON CCP. this is the stuff eve gamers are pissed about. the way that there are obvious GLARING unfair issues and you don't even ATTEMPT to fix them. this is one of many reason why pvping in shield is so inferior to armor!!! then you go and give armor tankers the slave sets and make it even more unfair??/!!!! oh but what about crystals you ask????!!! tengu cyclone mach and nightmare. those are the only ships they even help all that much. even then you have to pimp fit them AND fly them oddly and keep the number of enemies to a minimal to even use them!!! this is just day one stuff guys. keep your tanking styles balanced!!!!
so basically unless you have logi there to repair you up to full EVERY TIME YOU leave a system you can kiss your shield resist bonuses goodbye.
This is the original post from curedcrow, i`ve posted this so you can all see what a dumbass we have to put up with....
WOW .....WTF IS THAT? |
McOboe
Xujar
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Posted - 2012.01.10 01:34:00 -
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Angel Violette wrote:clantinkler wrote:so unless you have an active tank.... who does for pvp?...... you have to sit there and SLOWWLLYYYY regen the 5-15% shield you get from bonuses. and don't even dream of getting shield bonuses if you have to move to another system to kill someone. at least make it so my leadership bonus sticks with me in another system for a set amount of time and gets taken away after say 30 secs if my bonus ship doesn't jump in as well. that way i could at least recharge in one system then move out to another while keeping my new ehp. but even that is convoluted and STUPID. people always mention regen in this arguement!!!??? but that takes forever and a day to fill that way!!! wtf this has had poeple pissed for YEARS. why haven't they fixed this? well ccp? to fricking lazy? or just dont give half a **** what we think?
I mean COMMON CCP. this is the stuff eve gamers are pissed about. the way that there are obvious GLARING unfair issues and you don't even ATTEMPT to fix them. this is one of many reason why pvping in shield is so inferior to armor!!! then you go and give armor tankers the slave sets and make it even more unfair??/!!!! oh but what about crystals you ask????!!! tengu cyclone mach and nightmare. those are the only ships they even help all that much. even then you have to pimp fit them AND fly them oddly and keep the number of enemies to a minimal to even use them!!! this is just day one stuff guys. keep your tanking styles balanced!!!!
so basically unless you have logi there to repair you up to full EVERY TIME YOU leave a system you can kiss your shield resist bonuses goodbye.
This is the original post from curedcrow, i`ve posted this so you can all see what a dumbass we have to put up with.... WOW .....WTF IS THAT?
Hmmm....nerd-rage comes to mind. |
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