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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:34:00 -
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Witness the bookmarks!
This is the dedication and effort it takes to kill those scumbags before they can run their level 2 missions in their battleships and get away. A three minute window to nab them isn't much.
BUYING ZAINOU 'DEADEYE' ZGL1000 IMPLANTS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:49:00 -
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looks like a spider¦s web.
i wouldnt want to have business there
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Omae Gaw'd
Gallente VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:52:00 -
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That's a pretty view and you surely have that system covered. But out of curiosity, did you use an efficient coding for you to remember which BM to pick when you need it quick (cuz,as you said, this is what it takes to have a decent scanning range fast enough). Or are you just navigating with the 3d solar system map which is what I would guess.
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Carvott Milanis
Rakeriku Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:28:00 -
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Bloody hell, that is a monsterous amount of bookmarks.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:35:00 -
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Once I get a victi.. er, customer narrowed down, I use the system map to warp around. It's just impossible otherwise.
In each system that I hunt in, I have on average about 250 bms, just for mission spots and inbetween bms.
BUYING ZAINOU 'DEADEYE' ZGL1000 IMPLANTS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Romay
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:38:00 -
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Get a life
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.26 09:43:00 -
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It's just so wonderful how the changes to scanprobing works out in practice. So well thought through!
- Recruitment open again-
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's just so wonderful how the changes to scanprobing works out in practice. So well thought through!
Yeah, it's really weak that 90% of the probes are useless for probing out actual targets so that I have to resort to making billions of BMs just to get anything workable at all.
If I didn't have to land within 2-300m km of the target to get a reliable result, then I wouldn't have to deal with that mess.
We should be able to use regular recon probes on mission runners and have a half decent chance of finding the target.
BUYING ZAINOU 'DEADEYE' ZGL1000 IMPLANTS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Atreides Horza
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:29:00 -
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I don't understand what all the commotion is about.
I scan out numerous mission runners on a daily basis using a good 10-20 BM's per system and the full spectrum of probes, depending on the job that needs doing.
But hey... if it works for ya.
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Presidente Gallente
Pirate Hunters Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 26/06/2007 10:49:50 wtf is that kind of fetish?
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:00:00 -
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so you go to all that time and trouble to hunt down lev 2 mission runners ?
that says it all really .
do you hope one day to be able to get a big enough gang flying to try take on a lev 3 mission runner ?
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Romay Get a life
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: murder one on 26/06/2007 11:40:54
Originally by: Celestal so you go to all that time and trouble to hunt down lev 2 mission runners ?
that says it all really .
do you hope one day to be able to get a big enough gang flying to try take on a lev 3 mission runner ?
I kill L4 mission runners all the time. It's the L2s and such that the guys show up for three minutes, turn around and run off that are difficult to catch.
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:10:00 -
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murder one, I'd love to see that firsthand. :)
And in case you didn't realize...I pay ISK to the folks who manage to do it too. You're welcome to bring a frigate, a cruiser, or even a battleship.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Edited by: murder one on 26/06/2007 11:40:54
Originally by: Celestal so you go to all that time and trouble to hunt down lev 2 mission runners ?
that says it all really .
do you hope one day to be able to get a big enough gang flying to try take on a lev 3 mission runner ?
I kill L4 mission runners all the time. It's the L2s and such that the guys show up for three minutes, turn around and run off that are difficult to catch.
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
Gosh we're all really impressed down here i can tell you. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Edited by: murder one on 26/06/2007 11:40:54
Originally by: Celestal so you go to all that time and trouble to hunt down lev 2 mission runners ?
that says it all really .
do you hope one day to be able to get a big enough gang flying to try take on a lev 3 mission runner ?
I kill L4 mission runners all the time. It's the L2s and such that the guys show up for three minutes, turn around and run off that are difficult to catch.
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
*trains up probing skills*
--------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:12:00 -
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you have 1000 * more patience than I ever will.... kudos
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:52:00 -
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in the space of about 2 hours collective scanning while bored using 2 20 AUs that covered the holesystem i scanned down and killed/ransomed/
4 ravens + 1 CNR fully gist fitted 3 domis 1 EOS 1 Abaddon 3 Myrmidons 2 vexors (not killed cause i cba to get a ship) 1 archon 1 tempest (not killed but we got his raven friend) god knows how many drakes.
there what i remember
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Stakhanov
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:59:00 -
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That system map wouldn't load on my PC...
I hate the changes to shield power relays cpu use. It's so aggravating to short warp in a helios without them
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Cmd Criton
Caldari Zooner Corp G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
Are you talking about killing npc battleships solo or the mission runner in his battleship. If you are talking about the latter then i would appreciate if you could prove it with some fraps, seeing im very intrested in how long it takes you to drop a rattlesnake or a nightmare or a decent fitted command ship...
Im not saying your lying about that uber statement but its kinda hard to believe. So how do the folks usually put it "proof or stfu" ******************************
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Lance Fighter
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Posted - 2007.06.26 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax murder one, I'd love to see that firsthand. :)
And in case you didn't realize...I pay ISK to the folks who manage to do it too. You're welcome to bring a frigate, a cruiser, or even a battleship.
You misunderstand. Murder One can kill a level 4 mission runner in a frig/ cruiser, as all he really has to do is make sure the target cant go anywhere, and his tank wont hold. I would love to know the setup he uses for that
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Atreides Horza
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.26 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: Curzon Dax murder one, I'd love to see that firsthand. :)
And in case you didn't realize...I pay ISK to the folks who manage to do it too. You're welcome to bring a frigate, a cruiser, or even a battleship.
You misunderstand. Murder One can kill a level 4 mission runner in a frig/ cruiser, as all he really has to do is make sure the target cant go anywhere, and his tank wont hold. I would love to know the setup he uses for that
Nonsense.
Lots of mission runners fit their ships well - especially command ships - and you'll need to play it smart if you want those juicy ransoms.
It's not all about holding people down and let the rats do the rest. As a matter of fact, you need to make sure the rats don't kill your target, or you won't make money on the ransom.
Don't simplify things, guys. Real life has enought of that as it is.
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.26 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Holt on 26/06/2007 17:30:44 what it takes is only 4 BMs http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0706/What_it_takes_mk_II.JPG Ask anyone of my customers
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Pharrow
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: murder one and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
Just don't try it in a blasterthron without a high-grade slave implant set.
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Carl tabot
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Posted - 2007.06.26 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Holt Edited by: Steve Holt on 26/06/2007 17:30:44 what it takes is only 4 BMs http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0706/What_it_takes_mk_II.JPG Ask anyone of my customers
do you use recon probe launcher or scan probe launcher?
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Criton
Originally by: murder one
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
Are you talking about killing npc battleships solo or the mission runner in his battleship. If you are talking about the latter then i would appreciate if you could prove it with some fraps, seeing im very intrested in how long it takes you to drop a rattlesnake or a nightmare or a decent fitted command ship...
Im not saying your lying about that uber statement but its kinda hard to believe. So how do the folks usually put it "proof or stfu"
You should just go ahead and call him a liar, after all, thats what he is. You signature was removed. For questions or comments please mail [email protected] -Scyd ([email protected])
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.06.26 20:52:00 -
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Quote: in the space of about 2 hours collective scanning while bored using 2 20 AUs that covered the holesystem i scanned down and killed/ransomed/
4 ravens + 1 CNR fully gist fitted 3 domis 1 EOS 1 Abaddon 3 Myrmidons 2 vexors (not killed cause i cba to get a ship) 1 archon 1 tempest (not killed but we got his raven friend) god knows how many drakes.
there what i remember
Is this a joke? You're using 2 spooks and you found all that in 2 hours? I've used snoops and I'd be lucky to find half of that in 2 hours. The sensor strength isn't big enough to get lucky as much as you do. The only way you would find them is if they were out of the mission, not in the mission. You obviously don't know what you're doing otherwise you would be using snoops or quest probes because anything else isn't worth trying.
Murder one, what ship do you use to kill the mission runners with? Or are you probing so you can get your gang to warp in? How did you get the bookmarks that are off the plane?
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: illusha
Quote: in the space of about 2 hours collective scanning while bored using 2 20 AUs that covered the holesystem i scanned down and killed/ransomed/
4 ravens + 1 CNR fully gist fitted 3 domis 1 EOS 1 Abaddon 3 Myrmidons 2 vexors (not killed cause i cba to get a ship) 1 archon 1 tempest (not killed but we got his raven friend) god knows how many drakes.
there what i remember
Is this a joke? You're using 2 spooks and you found all that in 2 hours? I've used snoops and I'd be lucky to find half of that in 2 hours. The sensor strength isn't big enough to get lucky as much as you do. The only way you would find them is if they were out of the mission, not in the mission. You obviously don't know what you're doing otherwise you would be using snoops or quest probes because anything else isn't worth trying.
Murder one, what ship do you use to kill the mission runners with? Or are you probing so you can get your gang to warp in? How did you get the bookmarks that are off the plane?
Finally someone who gets it. That being said, this post is one of the few that are really worth replying to.
I gradually built up the various locations by snagging a BM here or there from various mission runners, BMing those, and then leapfrogging out. In other systems (not the one pictured) I have either run missions myself (L1, L2) to get some 'starter' BMs, or used 20/40 AU probes and looked for any abandoned drones to generate som quick 'starter BMs'.
I usually look for drones first, as this is quick and easy. If not, I resort to grinding some standing to get some missions from the agents in the system.
Yes, it's a lot of work, but when a carebear dies, it's all worth it for me.
As for ships- I'm going to make a (crappy) vid, probably seperated into sections by what ship I used to kill mission runners of various types. I don't have enough footage yet for my frig vs. BC and BS yet, but I'll make one once I get enough kills.
The only issue I have with making vids of killing mission runners is that they're boring. It's me swooping in, completely locking down a target and watching it die slowly. No muss, no fuss. I'm not in the business of losing ships.
Not directed at you illusha:
Every time I attack, I make sure that my setup is as optimised as possible against that specific target, at that specific time. From the ECM to the ammo choice to the drones I carry. Everything is tailored to that target as much as possible. I stack the deck in my favor as much as I can, because I have no illusions about what it takes to bring down battleships or whatnot.
Could I kill a fully PVP fit BS with a frig, outside of deadspace, whos pilot was prepared for a fight? I seriously hope not. Have I ever made a clame that I could? No. The environments in which I engage are very specific and the circumstances very narrow. Obviously what I do against mission runners won't work against anything else, anywhere else.
Frankly I assumed that the majority of players would be bright enough to figure that out for themselves. Appearantly I was expecting waaaayyy too much from a group of obtuse simpletons.
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: illusha
Is this a joke? You're using 2 spooks and you found all that in 2 hours? I've used snoops and I'd be lucky to find half of that in 2 hours. The sensor strength isn't big enough to get lucky as much as you do. The only way you would find them is if they were out of the mission, not in the mission. You obviously don't know what you're doing otherwise you would be using snoops or quest probes because anything else isn't worth trying.
Murder one, what ship do you use to kill the mission runners with? Or are you probing so you can get your gang to warp in? How did you get the bookmarks that are off the plane?
Nope ask any of the guys in turby how much stuff i found on my first day.
Archon Domi Domi CNR and there only a few non payers. many more foudn but htere smart enough to pay us :)
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Shiela
Caldari Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shiela on 26/06/2007 22:21:28 Edited by: Shiela on 26/06/2007 22:21:03 Edited by: Shiela on 26/06/2007 22:20:51 As a fellow mission prober, what he just said is the ultimate gospel. With the right knowledge of your target, and how to tip the odds in your favor, taking down mission runners is easy once you get the hang of it.
Finding them isn't easy, and yes it's very time consuming, but extremely rewarding.
Also I would like to second that BS flag that was thrown up on the guy who probed all that out using Spooks in that amount of time. --------------------------------------------- Need cheap and safe rearch done? Feel free to contact Steve TheWraith in game, or visit: http://warriornation.net/Forum/showthread.php?t=290332 |
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