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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Drek Grapper on 21/06/2007 14:03:38 I've had an idea floating around in my head to have CCP implement something along the lines of a 'dueling arena' in systems. All the time i spend scanning the system for a suitable target drives me crazy with boredom. (i am not a pirate, i always choose a fair fight if i can)
It would be nice if you could 'log' into the arena in a particular system stating what ship you are flying etc and be 'matched' up with a pilot in the same type of ship (same ship class). We could be evemailed or just be given a warp in point in which to meet your 'adversary'. Winner gets the loot and maybe we have an initial 'down payment' or bet perhaps which the winner takes as well.
It would be so much easier to find a willing PVPe'r this way than bloody scanning the belts for hours. CCP could use a gate which can restrict certain ship classes from entering thus ensuring a 'fair' contest.
The idea needs work but i would be keen to hear feedback and comments on this.
Drek. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
NoNah
Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 21/06/2007 14:03:44 There are corps setup for duells. There are tournaments that are artificial.
Artificial systems like this would ruin the entire game imho, might aswell setup a pvp and a RP shard.
Oh, and wrong forum.
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Ling Toriyama
Antagonistic Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:05:00 -
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if this is an FFA arena with prices... how do you stop people forming a gang and then enter the arena with t1 fittings, killing off all people with T2 fitted items and then kill your own team mates and score the price + loot?
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:10:00 -
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There is already.
It is called "Testserver"
I pew therefore I am.
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n0thing
omen. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:11:00 -
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PvP is not a constant shooting. In EVE its 2 hours of waiting, 5 minutes of action. And thats why people like it, you have to work for your kills and for your loot.
If game will have 'free for all' zones it will ruin the entire concept of immerse world where stuff happens randomly and where pilots need to actually put both resources and time into their goals. ---
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DarkChackle
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:21:00 -
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dont turn EVE into WoW please
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Alrich
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:27:00 -
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just go to lowsec and use local...
type in what shp and what fitting you have.
state the planet/belt you will be at and wait.
I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight
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El'essar Viocragh
Minmatar FSK23
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:32:00 -
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The system is the duelling arena.
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Emsee
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:37:00 -
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Test server, or use can flagging.
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Terazuk
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alrich just go to lowsec and use local...
type in what shp and what fitting you have.
state the planet/belt you will be at and wait.
I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight
Oh look an interceptor... laaaaag "oh shi...." ~
"*BANG* you're dead!"
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alrich just go to lowsec and use local...
type in what shp and what fitting you have.
state the planet/belt you will be at and wait.
I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight
yeah and then you get ganked. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Philemon Asher
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Alrich just go to lowsec and use local...
type in what shp and what fitting you have.
state the planet/belt you will be at and wait.
I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight
yeah and then you get ganked.
I think that was the point of his statement. He said, "I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight." He didn't say it would be the duel you're looking for.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Philemon Asher
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Alrich just go to lowsec and use local...
type in what shp and what fitting you have.
state the planet/belt you will be at and wait.
I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight
yeah and then you get ganked.
I think that was the point of his statement. He said, "I can almost guarantee that you will get a fight." He didn't say it would be the duel you're looking for.
ya i know what he what he was getting at. I chose to take it at face value for the point in favour of my idea. Although at this stage it's not going down too well as it is. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Yowin
Bikini Bandits
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Yowin on 21/06/2007 15:11:09 Automated daily tournaments and pvp events would be great.
Lazy people like me won't need make 9175625 jumps for kill a logoffsky cloaked npcer or die against a blob. Just log, kill, death, cry and logoff
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Aerin Cloudfayr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:31:00 -
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It doesn't sound like a terrible idea... Relatively, the tournament should be brought to the forefront, most eve players have never really heard of it, and have no idea how they could enter. Myself included - somebody please enlighten me.
Either way, it would be grand to have the Eve Tournament in freeplay mode where players can pit their current gear in simulated fights, with bets on winners etc. Depending on things, fighting in this fashion might earn faction standings, and give people the PvP experience they're so afraid of. Encourage players out of the arena and into low sec.
otherwise, its back to Cans labelled "duel", and unfortunately incurring corp agression =\
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny There is already.
It is called "Testserver"
QFT
If you want to duel, go to the test server. You can always find someone who will fight you (in specified dueling locations even), and replacing ships is free! What more can you ask for? -=^=-
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Caios
Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Caios on 21/06/2007 15:57:01 It'd be nice. I hate spending 15 minutes ganging up for an op and spending another 45 minutes jumping around lowsec looking for people to fight or camping a gate that in all liklihood no one is going to go through.
I don't think the overall concept would risk turning EVE into WoW. I see it as a way to put more targets into one location.
Just throw up a few deadspace complexes here and there that are effectively 0.0 inside. Re-enable MWDs in the rooms, and let people have at it. There can still be camping, ganking and all the nastiness we all love.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/06/2007 16:01:56
Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: kill0rbunny There is already.
It is called "Testserver"
QFT
If you want to duel, go to the test server. You can always find someone who will fight you (in specified dueling locations even), and replacing ships is free! What more can you ask for?
Yep, not only that, the test server also has a different beacons for people to pvp away with, say, small ships only, or a capital gankfest or free for all. Last time I was on test server, I flew a freightor in the capital becon area, got assigned fighters and started attacking dreads who had a hard time hitting me in seige while I orbited them. You can still be a loner and just warp to a beacon and start shooting someone instantly. Then you relise that test server pvp is like playing counter strike, due to no risk --
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Emmerlaine
Gallente Crab and Krawdad Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:06:00 -
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This could be a feature of the walking in stations. There could be a combat simulator where you load up your ship and the two of you shoot it out in a combat environment.
Minimal new coding as it's all the old ships and mechanics, just instanced PVP like exploration gives instanced PVE. Players could agree on a "purse" before hand for the winner and no equipment gets destroyed because it's a simulation.
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Vorketh Mordanil
Amarr Brotherhood of Acquisitions
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:13:00 -
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Consensual and riskless PVP will ruin EVE... Glad the devs know this and will never implement it.
Go play WoW :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: kill0rbunny There is already.
It is called "Testserver"
QFT
If you want to duel, go to the test server. You can always find someone who will fight you (in specified dueling locations even), and replacing ships is free! What more can you ask for?
I get that you can use Test server but it's just not the same if there is nothing to loose! The whole point of this idea is that prospective solo PVP'ers (new palyers/PVP'ers) could find a fight without all the hassle of getting ganked or hanging around an ss for 3 hours.
I have just started my PVP activity and short of being in a PVP corp or ganking anyone i see in a belt, there are currently not alot of options for solo pvp. I have bumped into a few people in local who will meet for duels and thats cool..but all the waiting around is bloody dull. This idea kind of formalises a fight between two consenting parties. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vorketh Mordanil Consensual and riskless PVP will ruin EVE... Glad the devs know this and will never implement it.
Go play WoW :)
Read my first post. It's not 'risk free'. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: n0thing PvP is not a constant shooting. In EVE its 2 hours of waiting, 5 minutes of action. And thats why people like it, you have to work for your kills and for your loot.
If game will have 'free for all' zones it will ruin the entire concept of immerse world where stuff happens randomly and where pilots need to actually put both resources and time into their goals.
this ---
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n0thing
omen. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Vorketh Mordanil Consensual and riskless PVP will ruin EVE... Glad the devs know this and will never implement it.
Go play WoW :)
Read my first post. It's not 'risk free'.
It needs no effort and it doesnt make you venture into dangerous areas where you have no idea what can be around next gate. That is called riskless ---
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Caios
Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.21 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Caios on 21/06/2007 17:21:34
Originally by: n0thing
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Vorketh Mordanil Consensual and riskless PVP will ruin EVE... Glad the devs know this and will never implement it.
Go play WoW :)
Read my first post. It's not 'risk free'.
It needs no effort and it doesnt make you venture into dangerous areas where you have no idea what can be around next gate. That is called riskless
Unfortunatley, most of the time what's around the next gate is...nothing.
When I was a noob, I shared the popular conception that lowsec and 0.0 were anarchic battlegrounds where it's much easier to find action than avoid it. Turns out that 0.0 is safer than Empire as long as you aren't AFK, and all that's missing from lowsec are a few tumbleweeds.
A lot of people would enjoy PvP, but lack the time committment to spend hours on end simply looking for a fight. So I think it'd be nice to have a place where everyone who wants to gank each other can do so.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: n0thing
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Vorketh Mordanil Consensual and riskless PVP will ruin EVE... Glad the devs know this and will never implement it.
Go play WoW :)
Read my first post. It's not 'risk free'.
It needs no effort and it doesnt make you venture into dangerous areas where you have no idea what can be around next gate. That is called riskless
Yes but this will be a perfect place for a noob or new PVP'er to test his mettle and skills againsed a similar ship in a fair fight.
This would help progress the players skills in combat and help the player to learn how different fittings affect ship performance and so on.
Hence a new pilot will come out of the experience a much wiser and competent pilot and hence be ready to go out into the wide universe and play the game (or another facet of the game) with alot more confidence. Hell it might even positively enhance the lack of 1v1 PVP that alot of players feel are missing from the game these days. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.06.21 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Drek Grapper
Yes but this will be a perfect place for a noob or new PVP'er to test his mettle and skills againsed a similar ship in a fair fight.
Repeat. For "testing" there is a "test server".
Nuff said.
I pew therefore I am.
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BuffB
Amarr Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 17:36:00 -
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Dont normally post on forums but am getting fed up of hearing people ask for pvp arenas. There is a pvp arena, its huge its called Eve. If you want no risk resubscribe to WoW or actually join a player corp and have a fight with a corp member to half armor or maybe even go on a trip in a nice gang and see what pvp is all about. If you stage PvP in eve it ceases to become Eve, half the thrill is the hunt, then the adrenaline rush and then 20 seconds of pew pew.
The game doesnt need changing one bit.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Drek Grapper on 21/06/2007 17:42:29
Originally by: BuffB Dont normally post on forums but am getting fed up of hearing people ask for pvp arenas. There is a pvp arena, its huge its called Eve. If you want no risk resubscribe to WoW or actually join a player corp and have a fight with a corp member to half armor or maybe even go on a trip in a nice gang and see what pvp is all about. If you stage PvP in eve it ceases to become Eve, half the thrill is the hunt, then the adrenaline rush and then 20 seconds of pew pew.
The game doesnt need changing one bit.
Read the flippin post...it's NOT RISK FREE. Only thing you won't be carrying is loads of expensive stuff in your cargo...but then again, what PVP'er would??
Edit: and maybe in this said arena they could make it that more loot survives than normal so the winner gets something and the looser looses it all (as in a normal pvp situation). - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
Lance Hawke
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:09:00 -
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end yourself
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