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Psyco Groupie
Union Of Xtreme Military
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:51:00 -
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 Originally by: tiller
lmao, he'd actually break it, but his corp m8s would buy him as many new ones as he wanted.
lol
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Purgatori on 15/06/2007 13:51:34
tbh i think it sucks that someones gaming experience should be ruined in such a way.. its ccp's fault for having stupid game mechanics when it comes to trading of supercaps...
ccp dont even recongnise that its a scam.. and instead seem to encourage it
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Lumy
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:53:00 -
[213] - Quote
Yay!
Now, please, someone somehow make Miz to get himself banned and world will be perfect! 
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Miz Cenuij
As for the few people who arnt Snowy alts saying its too much that he recieved a ban for making a RL threat, let me put it this way..
I coudnt care if he tries to find me in RL, he doesnt scare me in the slightest, however this kind of threat may well intimidate someone who has kids etc, resulting in stress etc etc (should they move homes now or later?).
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Furthermore there were a lot of people in local at the time, some of whom are no doubt in the above situation and do not wish to expose themselves or thier families to a person who so calmly makes RL threats.
It is not the first time he has been warned and the if indeed he has been banned he should consider himself lucky that it was only the Ginger acount and not Crom's account as well.
I would ban you for creating the hole situation and making it lead to the mess it did.
You helped into making those threats as in you taunted ginger after robbing him, worst you knew how he would react so you kept on going.
And BS to your concern about people's families, you didn't show the same concern you are invoking now when you started the situation.
Very true!
I hope he got petitioned because it is a very clear case of harassment. If this isn't harassing then I don't know what else is. Further more it is obviously a gross abuse of the petition system which in itself deserves a ban.
The whole stuff about families, kids etc. is complete nonsense and only a very poor excuse for his own stupid griefing: if someone isn't offended then he shouldn't be allowed to petition! I hope that such obviously psychopathic players will be forced to leave Eve sooner or later. This type of player absolutely NOT improve Eve or make it a more interesting world, in no way.
Also I really hope that senior GMs will look upon this case and in general petitions by this Miz guy. It seems to me that he likes to abuse the petition system for his own purposes.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: DarkElf
Dionisius are you seriously saying that Miz should be banned for taunting someone? aside from your insults in that drivvle of a post is that really what you're saying?
DE
Let me answer this to you in the most clear way possible.
I have absolutely no respect for people that scam others or smack, and even less than nothing for people that act, write or think that they are "more" than others, the last part includes you.
See i don't care much on how cool someone appears, or the direction in wich the mob is runing, and i don't feed my ego like tiller, miz and ginger, even you, based on other peoples ass kissing.
Be that in foruns or in game, i play the way i like it and give my opinions when and wherever i want.
In this case i think that they BOTH deserve a ban, because what you fail to see is that Ginger is just a nutcase that vented off his agression by making an idle threat, the point is that others may not got it?
Baning both would show that the behaviour shown by either part is not tolerated has there is a severe lack of respect for other gamers.
So excuse me if i stand by what i think is right, if i don't kiss your ass like many, or agree with tiller and others just because its funny and gives me a cool apearance in the foruns, and happen to think more than 2 minutes ahead in the future.
Perhaps taunting isn't the right word to describe the situation but you got my point and if you have any problem with my reply then boohoo, i couldn't care less.
Ok i think the first thing you need to do is sit down and have a nice relaxing drink of tea. Put your feet up, maybe see a professional and allocate some time to your feelings, you're in a safe place. There is nothing to worry about, wooooooo saaaaaaaa
You seem to be getting soooooo anxious over this and i have no clue why.
Possibly what you fail to see is that people being respectful to pvp'ers who have been around since the beginning of this game is not ass kissing. Insulting myself and many others now on several occasions is however pretty low.
Now as regards to the issue it really has no relavance what you think of scamming. i personally don't really like or agree with it but it does not break any rules, nothing miz did broke rules. What GM did broke the rules in a big way. It really is that simple.
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Paniq
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:58:00 -
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I was told I should come to this thread to buy motherships?
Can't but admire how it resembles poetry. Very bad poetry, but still.
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Jarrell
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:58:00 -
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"Robbed, Podded, betrayed, and perma banned." CCP needs to show some mercy.
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Faekurias
Caldari
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jarrell
"Robbed, Podded, betrayed, and perma banned." CCP needs to show some mercy.
Just like you would have done it though, isn't it?
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 15/06/2007 14:11:37
Originally by: Dionisius
Let me answer this to you in the most clear way possible.
I have absolutely no respect for people that scam others or smack, and even less than nothing for people that act, write or think that they are "more" than others, the last part includes you.
Being more then Ginger magician ain't that hard.
Besides, thats your personal problem, how does that really concern anyone but you?
Originally by: Dionisius
See i don't care much on how cool someone appears, or the direction in wich the mob is runing, and i don't feed my ego like tiller, miz and ginger, even you, based on other peoples ass kissing.
Be that in foruns or in game, i play the way i like it and give my opinions when and wherever i want.
I thought you said you didn't like people with a "holier then thou" attitude. Ohhh I get it, you hate yourself! You're one of them thar emo people. Tsk tsk tsk..you'll grow out of it one day, you'll see.
Originally by: Dionisius
In this case i think that they BOTH deserve a ban, because what you fail to see is that Ginger is just a nutcase that vented off his agression by making an idle threat, the point is that others may not got it?
Miz didn't break any rules, so why should he be banned?
Ginger Magician broke the rules, AGAIN, and got punished accordingly - What part of that eludes you?
There's no excuse for it, no exception, no circumstantial consideration for someone's personality. If your personality is such that you end up breaking the rules, you get punished accordingly.
Originally by: Dionisius
Baning both would show that the behaviour shown by either part is not tolerated has there is a severe lack of respect for other gamers.
If you want to start punishing people for your definition of "Lack of respect for other gamers", then there'd be a lot of banned people right now. Including yourself for the comments you made against DarkElf - Sound like a good idea? I didn't think so, now please start thinking before posting.
Originally by: Dionisius
So excuse me if i stand by what i think is right, if i don't kiss your ass like many, or agree with tiller and others just because its funny and gives me a cool apearance in the foruns, and happen to think more than 2 minutes ahead in the future.
Excuse us for not being as supreme as you, oh mighty Dionisius - Wait didn't we already talking about the whole "being superior" thing was something you hated with a passion?.
You're making yourself look stupid, and I don't understand why.
EDIT: Oh lol, sorry what was that about thinking ahead more then 2 minutes? I didn't quite catch that 
Originally by: Dionisius
Perhaps taunting isn't the right word to describe the situation but you got my point and if you have any problem with my reply then boohoo, i couldn't care less.
Playing a tough guy now, well that certainly helps your credibility. Oh wait..it doesn't!
No one got your point and no matter how often you repeat yourself, nobody will. Rules are rules are rules.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Gungankllr
Caldari
STK Scientific
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:05:00 -
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There are people that are "different" that add flavor to the game, just by their little quirks they make the game more fun.
Ginger was never one of those people.
By all accounts he was just an immature, bratty attention seeking gump that did everything he could to provoke people into doing something stupid so he could petition them.
Every account I have read on the forums, and seen in local over the last couple of years show me that Eve is better off without him.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:06:00 -
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Yes ban all those who smartbomb pods....
oh wait a sec...  
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Thann Starlinbow
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:06:00 -
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This thread promises to amuse me for at least 2 more hours while I'm at work. Please keep it coming, folks! This is better than COAD (I hate politics.)
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BobMoo22
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:09:00 -
[223] - Quote
The perma-ban must have really hurt ginger's ego. He won't even refer to himself in first-person anymore
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:13:00 -
[224] - Quote
miz you should work for a newspaper mate.. you seem to be able to make up quite believable bs on the spot mate
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Thann Starlinbow
This thread promises to amuse me for at least 2 more hours while I'm at work. Please keep it coming, folks! This is better than COAD (I hate politics.)
I'm in til 8pm. hoping it will entertain until then
DE
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Rawrior
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Thann Starlinbow
This thread promises to amuse me for at least 2 more hours while I'm at work. Please keep it coming, folks! This is better than COAD (I hate politics.)
indeed very entertaining ^^ /me goes back to getting station camped
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: BobMoo22
The perma-ban must have really hurt ginger's ego. He won't even refer to himself in first-person anymore
where the thing with miz, the gun and his feet is coming up again....
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i am bad you know, pay attention what you do, i could throw flowers at your house when you sleep *devil's grin*
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Thann Starlinbow
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
I'm in til 8pm. hoping it will entertain until then
DE
I think that might be stretching it, DE. Even Ginger threads.. although this one is better than most.. have their amusement factor limit. 
But if you get bored, we can play a rousing game of EVE: Forum Warriors, like the guys over in COAD!
Pew pew, my Sleipnir strikes your e-peen for OMGWTFBBQ damage!
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Flashh Gorden
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Flashh Gorden on 15/06/2007 14:32:24
Like him or loath him. Ginger was a charachter. The game needs charachters, even if its only to whine about or flame on the boards. When I first started playing EvE years ago there were threads about him and 3 years later its the same.
I think its a sad way to lose a charchter like this.
Over the years I have played many online games involving pvp, I have lost count of the times I have been threatened by angry people you have just killed online or caused severe time loss too.
While I have found it amusing at times to have people ranting and raving at me,I also remember the amount of times that I myself have been boiling over inside.
Never in a million years has it crossed my mind to try and get somone who lets face it is in a state most of us have all been in once or twice banned.
Smack talk threats and verbal abuse ect are present in most online games while I dont indulge or condone it some smack I have seen in local channels is quite amusing.
Bottom line is, what happens in game happens you scamed him, he threatened you big deal. Dont go crying to f**king GMs about it.
Your like some pathetic school kid grassing people up.
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden
Edited by: Flashh Gorden on 15/06/2007 14:32:24
Like him or loath him. Ginger was a charachter. The game needs charachters, even if its only to whine about or flame on the boards. When I first started playing EvE years ago there were threads about him and 3 years later its the same.
I think its a sad way to lose a charchter like this.
Over the years I have played many online games involving pvp, I have lost count of the times I have been threatened by angry people you have just killed online or caused severe time loss too.
While I have found it amusing at times to have people ranting and raving at me,I also remember the amount of times that I myself have been boiling over inside.
Never in a million years has it crossed my mind to try and get somone who lets face it is in a state most of us have all been in once or twice banned.
Smack talk threats and verbal abuse ect are present in most online games while I dont indulge or condone it some smack I have seen in local channels is quite amusing.
Bottom line is, what happens in game happens you scamed him, he threatened you big deal. Dont go crying to f**king GMs about it.
Your like some pathetic school kid grassing people up.
Amen
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i am bad you know, pay attention what you do, i could throw flowers at your house when you sleep *devil's grin*
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Faekurias
Caldari
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden
Your like some pathetic school kid grassing people up.
We already knew this was the name of their game ^^
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Dionisius
Gallente
Fallen Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Edited by: Cadela Fria on 15/06/2007 14:11:37
Originally by: Dionisius
Let me answer this to you in the most clear way possible.
I have absolutely no respect for people that scam others or smack, and even less than nothing for people that act, write or think that they are "more" than others, the last part includes you.
Being more then Ginger magician ain't that hard.
Besides, thats your personal problem, how does that really concern anyone but you?
Originally by: Dionisius
See i don't care much on how cool someone appears, or the direction in wich the mob is runing, and i don't feed my ego like tiller, miz and ginger, even you, based on other peoples ass kissing.
Be that in foruns or in game, i play the way i like it and give my opinions when and wherever i want.
I thought you said you didn't like people with a "holier then thou" attitude. Ohhh I get it, you hate yourself! You're one of them thar emo people. Tsk tsk tsk..you'll grow out of it one day, you'll see.
Originally by: Dionisius
In this case i think that they BOTH deserve a ban, because what you fail to see is that Ginger is just a nutcase that vented off his agression by making an idle threat, the point is that others may not got it?
Miz didn't break any rules, so why should he be banned?
Ginger Magician broke the rules, AGAIN, and got punished accordingly - What part of that eludes you?
There's no excuse for it, no exception, no circumstantial consideration for someone's personality. If your personality is such that you end up breaking the rules, you get punished accordingly.
Originally by: Dionisius
Baning both would show that the behaviour shown by either part is not tolerated has there is a severe lack of respect for other gamers.
If you want to start punishing people for your definition of "Lack of respect for other gamers", then there'd be a lot of banned people right now. Including yourself for the comments you made against DarkElf - Sound like a good idea? I didn't think so, now please start thinking before posting.
Originally by: Dionisius
So excuse me if i stand by what i think is right, if i don't kiss your ass like many, or agree with tiller and others just because its funny and gives me a cool apearance in the foruns, and happen to think more than 2 minutes ahead in the future.
Excuse us for not being as supreme as you, oh mighty Dionisius - Wait didn't we already talking about the whole "being superior" thing was something you hated with a passion?.
You're making yourself look stupid, and I don't understand why.
EDIT: Oh lol, sorry what was that about thinking ahead more then 2 minutes? I didn't quite catch that
Originally by: Dionisius
Perhaps taunting isn't the right word to describe the situation but you got my point and if you have any problem with my reply then boohoo, i couldn't care less.
Playing a tough guy now, well that certainly helps your credibility. Oh wait..it doesn't!
No one got your point and no matter how often you repeat yourself, nobody will. Rules are rules are rules.
Antiguity doesn't give you the right to scorn other players and feed your own ego, DarkElf does this every now and then, i was just making clear that i don't care what he thinks on that matter, i don't feed egos, not his, certainly not yours and i don't take lessons from someone that also robbed its own corp and came to the foruns posting some sorry excuse.
Strangely enough you feel offended by something that doesn't concern you, again you fail to think more than 2 minutes ahead, you just couldn't keep this pile of rubbish to yourself and had to post your support towards your little friend to look cool.
Again if DE feels offended, F12, if you feel offended F12 again and don't make me waste my time with reading useless replys.
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What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden
Never in a million years has it crossed my mind to try and get somone who lets face it is in a state most of us have all been in once or twice banned.
Smack talk threats and verbal abuse ect are present in most online games while I dont indulge or condone it some smack I have seen in local channels is quite amusing.
Bottom line is, what happens in game happens you scamed him, he threatened you big deal. Dont go crying to f**king GMs about it.
Your like some pathetic school kid grassing people up.
Speak for yourself. I've played EVE for 3 years and haven't been banned ever.
The rules are the rules are the rule. No excuse for that - If you can't adhere to the rules, you deserve to be punished.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Velsharoon
Gallente
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:39:00 -
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Someone petition cromar to be banned to. It would amuse me but im to lazy to do it myself.
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hUssmann
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:42:00 -
[235] - Quote
So what's happening to your stuff?
Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat. |
Kehmor
Caldari
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:45:00 -
[236] - Quote
I haven't read the 8 pages, but im suprised that in the first few no tin foil hats came out. Weren't there rumours about Miz being a GM?
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Paniq
I was told I should come to this thread to buy motherships?
Can't but admire how it resembles poetry. Very bad poetry, but still.
Don't trust this man to get you a cape hes a scammer
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Antiguity doesn't give you the right to scorn other players and feed your own ego, DarkElf does this every now and then, i was just making clear that i don't care what he thinks on that matter, i don't feed egos, not his, certainly not yours and i don't take lessons from someone that also robbed its own corp and came to the foruns posting some sorry excuse.
Strangely enough you feel offended by something that doesn't concern you, again you fail to think more than 2 minutes ahead, you just couldn't keep this pile of rubbish to yourself and had to post your support towards your little friend to look cool.
Again if DE feels offended, F12, if you feel offended F12 again and don't make me waste my time with reading useless replys.
I didn't make an excuse for my actions - Not then, and not now, so maybe you should do yourself a favor of actually take lessons from someone like me
Offended? The only thing you have offended is common sense. No, I'm afraid the only thing you have managed to do to me, is make me laugh.
As for "not being able to keep this pile of rubbish to myself and supporting my little friend DE". Heres a little newsflash for you - I barely even know DE, much less care about what he says or does, thats entirely up to him.
I post on behalf of myself and nobody else. I post because I want to and because I have an opinion based on an observation of your hypocrisy combined with the factual knowledge that make up the EVE rules.
Now what was it again about you talking about thinking "2 minutes ahead" ? 
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Purgatori
miz you should work for a newspaper mate.. you seem to be able to make up quite believable bs on the spot mate
GMs don't act on what you tell them, they act on facts. In this case, they will have read all the chat logs in the case and ruled based on that, NOT based on what Miz said. So essentially, your point is irrelevant unless the GMs aren't doing their job properly. I do know that some GMs DON'T do their job properly and we could indeed see Ginger Magician back in game having evaded a second permanant ban.
I personally hope that he stays banned because the game is a lot better off without him but let's not kid ourselves that a ban of one of his accounts will get rid of him. He'll stick around with his alt Crom'ar and will probably buy a new capital character anyway. The issue I have is whether or not a ban issued against someone for harassment and abuse in breach of the EULA should be levied against the account that the person was on when they committed the act or against the person themselves, thus extending to his alt accounts and forbiding him from starting new ones.
Essentially, I'm wondering if being banned for repeated verbal abuse in-game means that he personally isn't allowed to play eve any more. I've filed a petition to ask GMs what the answer is but don't expect a timely response.
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Dionisius
Gallente
Fallen Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Dionisius
Antiguity doesn't give you the right to scorn other players and feed your own ego, DarkElf does this every now and then, i was just making clear that i don't care what he thinks on that matter, i don't feed egos, not his, certainly not yours and i don't take lessons from someone that also robbed its own corp and came to the foruns posting some sorry excuse.
Strangely enough you feel offended by something that doesn't concern you, again you fail to think more than 2 minutes ahead, you just couldn't keep this pile of rubbish to yourself and had to post your support towards your little friend to look cool.
Again if DE feels offended, F12, if you feel offended F12 again and don't make me waste my time with reading useless replys.
I didn't make an excuse for my actions - Not then, and not now, so maybe you should do yourself a favor of actually take lessons from someone like me
Offended? The only thing you have offended is common sense. No, I'm afraid the only thing you have managed to do to me, is make me laugh.
As for "not being able to keep this pile of rubbish to myself and supporting my little friend DE". Heres a little newsflash for you - I barely even know DE, much less care about what he says or does, thats entirely up to him.
I post on behalf of myself and nobody else. I post because I want to and because I have an opinion based on an observation of your hypocrisy combined with the factual knowledge that make up the EVE rules.
Now what was it again about you talking about thinking "2 minutes ahead" ?
Strange thing to come in defense of someone you don't know and yet you acuse me off breaking the rules and offending someone.
I am no hipocrit nor do i throw bs at other peoples faces excusing one wrong doing with another.
And certainly i didn't get into this thread waving the
victim or authority flag.
Makes me sick the fact that some people enter here and actually excuse the actions of one player in detriment of another just because most people hold a biased opinion him.
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