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Yorick Downe
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Yorick Downe on 15/06/2007 16:26:39
Originally by: Multanemo I strongly urge that everyone look past their personal hatered for Ginger Magician. My G-d, I don't think there is a person in this game who has not been naughty in local with threats and explatives. Do not throw stones at glass houses!
I'll be the first to cast that particular stone, then. There is a line to be drawn, and it's not a particularly fine or subtle line. If an AU member smacktalked using RL insults, directors would come down on him like a (metric) ton of bricks. If an AU member threatened RL bodily harm - or as in that case, if comments are to be believed, death - they'd be out of the corp so fast their heads would spin.
There's a good many players who are able to play EvE without blowing a fuse in Local every time their assortment of pixels gets blown up. I salute those players. Thanks, you make the game fun.
Let's put this in perspective. Threatening harm to a person - not their toon or their isk, mind you, the person - is "Assault", as part of the "Assault and Battery" duo. Yeah, that could be argued in court - part of the "Assault" part is that the threat has to be imminent, and the victim has to believe that the threat could be carried out - but the courts have been very liberal indeed in recent years with interpreting verbal threats as "Assault". So we're looking at a potential felony here. Which carries a statutory sentence of up to 6 months in prison and/or a 5000 pound fine, in the UK.
This is no small matter. CCP did the only thing they could do: Permaban the player. Bringing criminal suit is not something CCP can do, but is an option for the threatened player.
Tackling this another way: EvE is a game. Keep threats in game. The moment it spills out into RL, it gets way too intense, and frankly frightening. That kind of fanaticism is not something that should be treated lightly.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:26:00 -
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CCP, for banning Ginger you are back at square one, from being in the negative. Congratulations. 
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 15/06/2007 16:25:33
Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 16:05:44 Well it seems Crom is banned as well now.Congrats to all the petitioners who have now got all my accounts banned and I am totally unable to play Eve anymore.Maybe Goonfleet were right.
Goodbye.........

do not expect me to be even a bit sad, the thing with " i **** you up you lil german " is still in my mind... or " stfu you ******* dwat "
maybe my lil sister soon tells me there is a crazy man shouting on her on hello kitty ts 
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i am bad you know, pay attention what you do, i could throw flowers at your house when you sleep *devil's grin*
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Psyco Groupie
Union Of Xtreme Military Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 16:05:44 Well it seems Crom is banned as well now.Congrats to all the petitioners who have now got all my accounts banned and I am totally unable to play Eve anymore.Maybe Goonfleet were right.
Goodbye.........

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Your generosity to your corp mates and contribution to the eve community will be remembered forever. Thankyou Ginger Magician.
*sarcasm* 
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Faekurias
Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Edited by: zwerg on 15/06/2007 16:25:33
do not expect me to be even a bit sad, the thing with " i **** you up you lil german " is still in my mind... or " stfu you ******* dwat "
**** ...he called you a german? OMG!
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg
maybe my lil sister soon tells me there is a crazy man shouting on her on hello kitty ts 
  
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 16:36:40
Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 16:05:44 Well it seems Crom is banned as well now.Congrats to all the petitioners who have now got all my accounts banned and I am totally unable to play Eve anymore.Maybe Goonfleet were right.
Goodbye.........

That is abit tough m8 tbh.... I do know you were mad but even so you should of known that if CCP read your local chatter it would come to that.
btw, I dont think anyone petitioned you except for adding roles to a guy who wanted to leave. GM was in local when you typed, end of story.
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Psyco Groupie
Union Of Xtreme Military Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Psyco Groupie on 15/06/2007 16:40:31 has gingers mistress been banned as well ? Who takes over the once thriving Octobersnow corp ?
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General Coochie
Gallente New Justice Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij smacktastic thread.
I agree best read in a long time lol. Nice scam to :)
I do feel getting perma-banned is a bit top notch but rules are rules.
Dionisius man take a chill pill. Your into your arguement as if it was a matter of life and death.
oh and IBTL. Cause this thread is jsut going downhill the last 2 pages.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Maybe Goonfleet were right.
You heard it here first, folks: Miz Cenuij -> SirMolle's alt.
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:40:00 -
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This thread delivers..
Sucks to get hit with the banzor stick no matter who you are though.
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Akhen Aton
Gallente kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Edited by: zwerg on 15/06/2007 16:25:33
Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 16:05:44 Well it seems Crom is banned as well now.Congrats to all the petitioners who have now got all my accounts banned and I am totally unable to play Eve anymore.Maybe Goonfleet were right.
Goodbye.........

do not expect me to be even a bit sad, the thing with " i **** you up you lil german " is still in my mind... or " stfu you ******* dwat "
maybe my lil sister soon tells me there is a crazy man shouting on her on hello kitty ts 
Still trying to find the higher font size to type that LOL! :))) Ginger aka Crom I am proudly announcing you that the "romanian gipsy" is now convinced by the fact that you will not play eve with GM or Crom at least for a while. :) Have a nice day... well I think you just had a great day, so enjoy it till the end. You got a couple of hours ahead, and by the way... I can take my machariel from Miro now, I wanted to keep it there and pwn some SNOWY acolytes =) Fly safe(try not to smoke first) Your truly friend, probably the only one! Akhen LOL
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:43:00 -
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so he got kicked while undocking so did he loses teh dread while banned?
as for banning him for smacking in local hello he just got scammed think it should have been let slide but no ******** ass monkey gms ohh ohh banstick
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Mando Riathia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mando Riathia on 15/06/2007 16:50:07 Edited by: Mando Riathia on 15/06/2007 16:46:38 Ginger scammed and banned,well that made me grin for a minute at least!
Guys a noob killing griefer in my personal opinion, glad hes gone.
(based on personal observations thanks for the correspondence)
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Lt Angus
Caldari OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:49:00 -
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Dread is safe and sound in the land of the damned
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.15 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 15/06/2007 16:51:32 LOL! EVE's collective IQ just went up a few points!   
EDIT: Incidentally, this thread is packed full of Win. --------

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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 17:06:07
ok im gonna post this to shed some light.... maybe it will help him who knows. In some ways I hope it does as ginger does add character to eve.
[ 2007.06.14 18:51:39 ] Banned > curl up and die scum [ 2007.06.14 18:51:44 ] Banned > ill find u in rl
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:02:00 -
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Jarrell mabe ginger is a complete tos**r, but to some people i bet hes a good friend, ie his corp mates.
  
you are kidding right?
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Jebe Noyon
LDK Ultima Rati0
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 17:01:00
ok im gonna post this to shed some light.... maybe it will help him who knows. In some ways I hope it does...
[ 2007.06.14 18:51:39 ] Banned > curl up and die scum [ 2007.06.14 18:51:44 ] Banned > ill find u in rl
whoa not the most pleasant chatlog imho. 
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Thann Starlinbow
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:08:00 -
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This thread is so chock full of absolute Win that it's spilling over to the rest of the C&P forum. I think I'm gonna visit more often now.
Sucks that you got banned, Gingy. I know I wouldn't like it if it happened to me, but it's just a game. But you shouldn't have been threatening RL bodily harm over some pretty pixels in a game that moved from one fake wallet to another, or some other pixels that turned into different ones when your pod exploded. Maybe now you'll get out and socialize some. :x
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 17:06:07
ok im gonna post this to shed some light.... maybe it will help him who knows. In some ways I hope it does as ginger does add character to eve.
[ 2007.06.14 18:51:39 ] Banned > curl up and die scum [ 2007.06.14 18:51:44 ] Banned > ill find u in rl
tbh i have heard from so many ex snowy members in convo about how bad GM treated his corpmates and others and everyone has been witness to his annoying ego on eve-o but if that's all he said then i think a perma ban is a bit harsh. temp ban for sure but that's a little extreme. however examples have to be made and this will shine as a very good one.
i don't feel much sorry for him on account of how he treats others but a temp ban of a month or 2 might well have sufficed. unless it got worse than that.
DE
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:16:00 -
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Did Ginger keep all OctoberSnow's isk and gear on his characters?
If so how will it affect OctoberSnow Corp if they lose access to their main source of isk and gear?
Interesting situation. |

stopdropandlol
Gallente kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:20:00 -
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man the internet is SERIOUS BIDNESS.  |

Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: DUFFMANX Wow....just fck'in wow, ive been busy at work all week and comeback to read this. Could'nt have happened to a nicer guy hahaha it sucks to be Ginger. Fist olGinge is banned, then Crom.......
but w8t he has more character he can play with that ppl prolly dont know bout
Ginger Wizard Mr Resser
.......just for example. Was nice knowing u nubbins ut shame i dont get chance to try blow u up in ur selfenflated egotrip mom(if u even got it). 
P.S. i really h8t scammers and Miz shouldnt have done that.....well usually id agree wit that statement but he got u Ginger and that makes me laugh also knowing hes a longtime scammer 
I was about to post and ask ppl do name his other alts. :P ---
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Psyco Groupie
Union Of Xtreme Military Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver
Did Ginger keep all OctoberSnow's isk and gear on his characters?
If so how will it affect OctoberSnow Corp if they lose access to their main source of isk and gear?
Interesting situation.
Is that a joke ? ovcourse- he kept it all to himself, hence why everyone (well almost) left and went to KLEPTO. And so octobersnow members didnt really have a source of isk or gear but now im sure if snowy lives on loot will be spilt between members and not put towards the famous "nyx fund". FREEDOM! 
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver
Did Ginger keep all OctoberSnow's isk and gear on his characters?
If so how will it affect OctoberSnow Corp if they lose access to their main source of isk and gear?
Interesting situation.
well .. do you actually now how many people within snowy have been his alts? tbfh i don't. Maybe 3-6 more active members... so i dont think it is that bad.
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Volga 743
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:25:00 -
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The Ban of ginger will be a great lost for eve comunity. People hate ginger coz he choose to camp gate in carrier. Miz is just an poor scammer, who will never be as great as Ginger, just a few player me claim themselves as great as ginger. I hope CCP wanna un-ban Ginger, Eve is a really strange game where scammer and other thief are protected and pvp-er and funny player are ban. For my mind, if i wanna be scammed around 8.5bil, i wouldn't stay calm and smacktaclk would be unavoidable ... plz unban Ginger, he is one of the greatest pilot. (not an ginger alt :p and i was killed by ginger so I know him ^^ =) )
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 15/06/2007 17:32:49
Originally by: Volga 743 The Ban of ginger will be a great lost for eve comunity. People hate ginger coz he choose to camp gate in carrier. Miz is just an poor scammer, who will never be as great as Ginger, just a few player me claim themselves as great as ginger. I hope CCP wanna un-ban Ginger, Eve is a really strange game where scammer and other thief are protected and pvp-er and funny player are ban. For my mind, if i wanna be scammed around 8.5bil, i wouldn't stay calm and smacktaclk would be unavoidable ... plz unban Ginger, he is one of the greatest pilot. (not an ginger alt :p and i was killed by ginger so I know him ^^ =) )
ooooo ccp another alt to ban 
DE
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 15/06/2007 17:33:59
Originally by: Volga 743 The Ban of ginger will be a great lost for eve comunity. People hate ginger coz he choose to camp gate in carrier. Miz is just an poor scammer, who will never be as great as Ginger, just a few player me claim themselves as great as ginger. I hope CCP wanna un-ban Ginger, Eve is a really strange game where scammer and other thief are protected and pvp-er and funny player are ban. For my mind, if i wanna be scammed around 8.5bil, i wouldn't stay calm and smacktaclk would be unavoidable ... plz unban Ginger, he is one of the greatest pilot. (not an ginger alt :p and i was killed by ginger so I know him ^^ =) )
Ginger, if you post with an alt, then at least don't post like yourself ( points at wall of text and the great grammar.
poor guy, is it boosting your ego? ye?

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ObiAliKonobi
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 17:38:00 -
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I joined October Snow approximately ten days ago. I knew the corp policy of all loot going to corp wallet. As far as I know, whenever I or anyone else lost a ship, Ginger immediately replaced it; that is the main reason why I joined SNOWY. Yes, Ginger does have an ego, but practically every ceo of a major corp does. In addition, I got to know Ginger on Vent, and I must say that I enjoyed talking with him. He is not an awful person who deserves ridicule and condemnation. Furthermore, I think this is a sad day for all of Eve. This is not a day to rejoice, but to mourn. One of the oldest and most infamous pirate corps in EvE has been seriously hurt. In the end, all I know is that I enjoyed camping and killing carebears with Ginger and the other members of October Snow. I even enjoyed camping with Miz while he was a loyal member. I just hate to see characters and corps be put down like an animal. I wish all the pirate corps in eve the best of luck, even the folks at KLEPTO. Remember, Eve is about fun and community - and sometimes a community must forgive those who may lose their cool at times.
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