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Yanjul Slagenhoffen
NovaeDyne Industries Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:13:00 -
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I really want to be able to..through invention and engineering maybe, to change ships layouts, even remove hp/shield/armor and add it to another, remove a turret or missile for more drone bay.
If it could be done, it would be a great addition to EvE..why?
Extreme customisation to the ships practical uses, I mean, I would normally engage a Scorpian in a Mega, but what if this scorp is unique? 6 guns, 7 mediums and 5 lows. It pwns me through an uber tank and fairy good damage.
Just the aspect of being able to create say, an 'Alliance name's Modified Armageddon.
You wouldnt know what to expect, and add a new level of risk to eve.
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Marcus Alkhaar
Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:22:00 -
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Great Idea tbh.
but it would make EVE way more complex, and you have to think about all the new players, they wont be able to it.
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Plave Okice
Gallente Combat Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:45:00 -
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It would remove the point of different ships and classes to a degree.
Or it would create absurd setups.
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DarkXenon
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Posted - 2007.06.08 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice It would remove the point of different ships and classes to a degree.
Or it would create absurd setups.
Imagine a bait hyperion with an 8 slot tank, hmmm 8 slots
/drewls
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Dimitri Forgroth
Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: DarkXenon
Originally by: Plave Okice It would remove the point of different ships and classes to a degree.
Or it would create absurd setups.
Imagine a bait hyperion with an 8 slot tank, hmmm 8 slots
/drewls
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:14:00 -
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Maybe combo slots ?
A slot that can fit both low and med modules ? ___
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lofty29
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:14:00 -
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7/5/5 = 17
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Fenren
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Fenren on 08/06/2007 14:32:41 I want my 3/8/8 nbertanked maelstrom
oh... and make it have only 1k armour and move all the rest to shield... 14500 shields unskilled FTW
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Jaedar Metron
I G N O T U S
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Posted - 2007.06.08 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 08/06/2007 14:56:50 Man would EvE keep me happy if this ever became possible
Modules would need a serious line of balance though, so a particular layout wouldnt always pwn everything else... And perhaps ships would need to be even more specialized so that no ship could be all other ships...
Ofcourse it would never happen, but man... The possibilites for such a system! Wonder if we'll get a bored dev in here that agrees on that a eve like this in some distant future would be extrememly fun?
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Stems
Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2007.06.08 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 7/5/5 = 17
4/5/8 eos
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.06.08 15:40:00 -
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I'd actually like to see an "adapter" mod that allows you to sacrifice a higher slot for two lower slots.
Highslot adapter: Fits in one high slot, creating two Med slots.
Medslot adapter: Fits in one mid slot, creating two Low slots.
Obviously, there would be no Lowslot adapter, and adapters couldn't be "stacked". IE, using one highslot adapter and two medslot adapters to create 4 new lowslots would be prohibited, and only ONE adapter could be fitted at any time.
So, for example, you could take a Celestis, which has mad amounts of midslots for a Gallente Cruiser, sacrifice one of them and add two lowslots to improve it's armor tank. This has all sorts of potential uses, but because it's limited to just one adapter at a time, it would prevent insane abuses like unpoppable armor tanked bait-battleships.
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Dimitri Forgroth
Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.08 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen I'd actually like to see an "adapter" mod that allows you to sacrifice a higher slot for two lower slots.
Highslot adapter: Fits in one high slot, creating two Med slots.
Medslot adapter: Fits in one mid slot, creating two Low slots.
Obviously, there would be no Lowslot adapter, and adapters couldn't be "stacked". IE, using one highslot adapter and two medslot adapters to create 4 new lowslots would be prohibited, and only ONE adapter could be fitted at any time.
So, for example, you could take a Celestis, which has mad amounts of midslots for a Gallente Cruiser, sacrifice one of them and add two lowslots to improve it's armor tank. This has all sorts of potential uses, but because it's limited to just one adapter at a time, it would prevent insane abuses like unpoppable armor tanked bait-battleships.
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Hectaire Glade
Forum Jockey
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Hectaire Glade on 08/06/2007 16:04:15 would be possible if it was 2 for 1 maybe, give up 2 high slots for one additional medium, that may be doable without creating too many extreme pwnmobiles.
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:12:00 -
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Really bad idea. Really.
Fun in theory but impossible to balance and it defeats the point of having different ships.
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Yanjul Slagenhoffen
NovaeDyne Industries Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Really bad idea. Really.
Fun in theory but impossible to balance and it defeats the point of having different ships.
Maybe only being able to change TECH 1 ships into your own 'mashup'?
And tbh, I didnt mention anything about being able to change the ships bonus.
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Alan Bell
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.08 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Alan Bell on 08/06/2007 19:17:23
Originally by: Bish Ounen I'd actually like to see an "adapter" mod that allows you to sacrifice a higher slot for two lower slots.
Highslot adapter: Fits in one high slot, creating two Med slots.
Medslot adapter: Fits in one mid slot, creating two Low slots.
Obviously, there would be no Lowslot adapter, and adapters couldn't be "stacked". IE, using one highslot adapter and two medslot adapters to create 4 new lowslots would be prohibited, and only ONE adapter could be fitted at any time.
So, for example, you could take a Celestis, which has mad amounts of midslots for a Gallente Cruiser, sacrifice one of them and add two lowslots to improve it's armor tank. This has all sorts of potential uses, but because it's limited to just one adapter at a time, it would prevent insane abuses like unpoppable armor tanked bait-battleships.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.06.08 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Highslot adapter: Fits in one high slot, creating two Med slots.
Yeah, there's no way a 5/7/7 Dominix could be overpowered.
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Elitus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen I'd actually like to see an "adapter" mod that allows you to sacrifice a higher slot for two lower slots.
Highslot adapter: Fits in one high slot, creating two Med slots.
Medslot adapter: Fits in one mid slot, creating two Low slots.
Obviously, there would be no Lowslot adapter, and adapters couldn't be "stacked". IE, using one highslot adapter and two medslot adapters to create 4 new lowslots would be prohibited, and only ONE adapter could be fitted at any time.
So, for example, you could take a Celestis, which has mad amounts of midslots for a Gallente Cruiser, sacrifice one of them and add two lowslots to improve it's armor tank. This has all sorts of potential uses, but because it's limited to just one adapter at a time, it would prevent insane abuses like unpoppable armor tanked bait-battleships.
This would be great but to make it fair the would have to be a cpu & power grid usage + a 10% - 20% reduction to the mod u plug into the adapta otherwise ships will become 1337 and it should be limited too two adpta slots!!
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n0thing
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 19:34:00 -
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8/3/7 Astarte + 8 turret hardpoints.
It will create a standart set of ships alterings and will rather create a greatly overpowers ships like the 8 lows Myrmidon. ---
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Weyoun 1
Gallente Soviet Star Federation Celestial Frontier
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Posted - 2007.06.08 20:39:00 -
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8/1/8 Hulk |
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LordInvisible
Gallente adeptus gattacus Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.08 21:37:00 -
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I would never engage scorp in mega :S
What the point of engaging ship which can jam u with one multispec forever..
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Haizum
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:21:00 -
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Personally I don't think this idea would take off, but however perhaps a more workable way to do it would be new rigs -
Ship Fitting Rigs --High Power Reconstruction-- -Adds one extra high power slot to your ship at the expense of -10% max powergrid, up to a maximum of 8 slots. -150 Calibration
[I don't know all that much about what bonuses/drawbacks should be but decreasing powergrid might help stop more highs = pure firepower]
--Medium Power Reconstruction-- -Adds one extra medium power slot to your ship at the expense of -10% max CPU/shield hp/shield recharge, up to a maximum of 8 slots. -150 Calibration
[Shield drawback to stop it being used purely as an insane shield tanker, and CPU to prevent EW insanity (not looking at modules at the moment so this might be off)]
--Low Power Reconstruction-- -Adds one extra low power slot to your ship at the expense of -10% max capacitor/armour hp/armour repairer effectiveness, up to a maximum of 8 slots. -150 Calibration
[This by now should be fairly self-explanatory, lows for armour tanking so drawback to help balance]
(Each of these rigs could be added - Takes away one *insert high/med/low* slot - and that drawback decreases with skill Ship Fitting Rigging or something)
Now I'm not saying this should be implemented, personally I don't mind keeping the slot setups as they are as it will, yes, be a nightmare to balance things. However I think rigs with suitable drawbacks (mine probably aren't suitable at all I'm fairly tired) will help balance, and having it at 150 calibration instead of 100 will prevent multiple extra slots so the ship stays in a rough semblance of it's former shape.
Interesting idea overall having ships this customisable, I think things you touched on in the OP could be fairly interesting, like increased drone bay (rig that increases drone bay at expense of cargo bay?) or altering a missile slot for a turret slot, or making that last 7/8 slots turrets into a turret or missile slot.
I'll be watching the thread with interest to see what people's feelings are on the matter, however I think keeping the slots as they are would be perfectly fine :D
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Yanjul Slagenhoffen
NovaeDyne Industries Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.06.09 09:45:00 -
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Well to be honest, your all talking about rigs/quick switches, I didnt elaborate the fact that I meant customising your ship through changing BPCs/BPOs.
Having to research around, if you want an extra medium on your geddon your gunna need to research Caldari or Minmatar factions.
I agree though, would create some overpowered sort of ship layouts, but if the balance between recalibrating a high for a medium meant a reduction in CPU or something similar, I cant see it creating layouts other than the ones people would actually really want.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 10:30:00 -
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I want a 8/7/4 missile boat :/
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