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FunkyMonk
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Posted - 2007.05.28 11:40:00 -
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Hi
Im just wondering if its still possible to get the Navy raven as a reward for having a high standing with the caldari state.
Also can anyone provide me with the information for the standing needed and the agent location.
Thanks
FunkyMonk
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William Hartas
Caldari OcUK
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Posted - 2007.05.28 11:46:00 -
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Being given a Raven just for having high standing?
That's a story I've heard bandied about a lot but nobody has ever provided proof. I personally don't believe it.
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Slate Fistcrunch
Direct Intent Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.05.28 12:11:00 -
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http://cosmos.awardspace.com/caldari.htm
go down to the faction vessel offers
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 28/05/2007 13:33:24 Agent Zoun Makui at otitoh (friggi gate ),you need 9.9 caldari standing without skill . william all empire factions give navy frig/cruiser and battleship bpcs if you have standings.if you want proof look to this thread.Youll have 2 run NAVY Raven bpc just for having high standing + tags http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=521148
Originally by: FunkyMonk Hi Also can anyone provide me with the information for the standing needed and the agent location.
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William Hartas
Caldari OcUK
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:34:00 -
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lol, I don't see any proof in that thread whatsoever.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.05.28 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: William Hartas Being given a Raven just for having high standing?
That's a story I've heard bandied about a lot but nobody has ever provided proof. I personally don't believe it.
Not just stadnings. You need also approx 30 pirate tags. diamond ones I belive for battleship offer. And it is 2 run BPC.
About proof. I have seen up close navy ravens built from BPC from that source in the hands of my corpmate. If you have good enough stadnings you can go get your proof even below 9.9 without skills by getting yourself hookbill (caldary faction frigate) from similar agent. It needed abit over 8 stadnings i think.
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Paula Roscarai
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Posted - 2007.05.28 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: William Hartas lol, I don't see any proof in that thread whatsoever.
Stop being a ******, thanks.
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William Hartas
Caldari OcUK
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:23:00 -
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I'm not being whatever a ***** is, I'm just stating what I see.
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: William Hartas I'm not being whatever a ***** is, I'm just stating what I see.
Sigh. You can get this for any faction. I'm grinding for the one in 0.0 where I live to get the 2 run faction BS BPC. You get 9.9, you get 2 run BS BPC. _____________ WE ARE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS VOLTAGE OVER CURRENT.
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.29 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Red Rumurder on 29/05/2007 15:40:36 never heard or seen bs bpc for standings ever except for 3 cosmos ones but not sure if its ships or ships/modules. to be honest hope they never do that then it just ruins the value of the CNR and others.
you want a CNR sure send me some isk I got 2 and about to get a 3rd. Got my 2x CNR bpc offer at 1.4 mil LP, it asked for a bunch of crap and 1.2 mil LP. I originally got a 1x CNR offer at 500k and 600k LP. those are the only ways I have heard of getting one.
if there are other ways of getting one cool prove it. show screen shots of the offer. go ahead and block out agent name but i want to see it in writing till then good luck but it seems like they are taking you for a spin
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.29 15:47:00 -
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Those agents in space that give "Navy" BPCs were introduced a bit before the first COSMOS went live, they have been documented to hell and back ... you can believe it, they exist and give 2-runs BPCs.
But that won't deflate the value of a CNR, having 9.9+ in Caldari State standing is really hard to get, that means YEARS of missions ...
AFAIK, the frigates need 8.4+ standing toward the Faction, the cruisers 9.2+, and of course you need the 30 tags the agent asks for ... My Skills |
Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell Those agents in space that give "Navy" BPCs were introduced a bit before the first COSMOS went live, they have been documented to hell and back ... you can believe it, they exist and give 2-runs BPCs.
But that won't deflate the value of a CNR, having 9.9+ in Caldari State standing is really hard to get, that means YEARS of missions ...
AFAIK, the frigates need 8.4+ standing toward the Faction, the cruisers 9.2+, and of course you need the 30 tags the agent asks for ...
Yes this is true. However, you forgot the State Issue Battelship BPC which you get with a faction standing of 10.0 (e.g. Raven State Issue, 1 run BPC ME 20 PE 8).
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Jessamine
Freedom United
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor
Yes this is true. However, you forgot the State Issue Battelship BPC which you get with a faction standing of 10.0 (e.g. Raven State Issue, 1 run BPC ME 20 PE 8).
I hate you so hard.
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Don't call me a griefer just becase you fly a space pinata and I choose to be the one to swing the stick
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor Yes this is true. However, you forgot the State Issue Battelship BPC which you get with a faction standing of 10.0 (e.g. Raven State Issue, 1 run BPC ME 20 PE 8).
Huh ?
I thought that those "state issue" ships were unique (1 Raven and 1 Tempest), and the rewards of the last tournament ?
And I thought that you could not reach a "perfect" 10.0 standing, since the gains when you do an "important" mission are a fraction of what you need to reach the "theorical" 10.0 (this has been confirmed by the Devs, BTW).
Anyway, if that's true, that would take a couple of years, gaining faction standing above 9.0 is a royal pain ... even more so for the people like me who try to raise all four faction standings equally (they even out at about 5.0, with the losses when you do an "important" mission for an "enemy empire"). My Skills |
Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: Castra Noor Yes this is true. However, you forgot the State Issue Battelship BPC which you get with a faction standing of 10.0 (e.g. Raven State Issue, 1 run BPC ME 20 PE 8).
Huh ?
I thought that those "state issue" ships were unique (1 Raven and 1 Tempest), and the rewards of the last tournament ?
And I thought that you could not reach a "perfect" 10.0 standing, since the gains when you do an "important" mission are a fraction of what you need to reach the "theorical" 10.0 (this has been confirmed by the Devs, BTW).
Anyway, if that's true, that would take a couple of years, gaining faction standing above 9.0 is a royal pain ... even more so for the people like me who try to raise all four faction standings equally (they even out at about 5.0, with the losses when you do an "important" mission for an "enemy empire").
Yes that was the case when the state ships were first introduced. I can speak only for the raven state issue, but i think the other races will have similar offers. The "Corvus" (which had in it's discription that it's only available from trounaments btw) was changed into Raven State Issue (and the discription text was adjusted) and with that update it became available, simimlar to that cnr offers in otitoh, but it's only 1 run and you need 10 instead of 9.9.
It is also true that according to the standing formula 10.0 is theoretically not possible, but when you have enough 9s after the dot it turns to 10, and the system regards it as 10 then, and not 9.999xxx. Same for the corporation standings ... if they are at 10 it is counted as 10 and those corps that are at 10 are sorted alphabetically and you don't see that a 9.999999 is above a 9.999998 in the list of standings if both show as 10 and the latter is first in alphabetical order. So all you need to see is that 10.0 ... look for the Character "Siri Blue" (my best friend btw), she has a faction standing of 10.0
But you are right, it's insane to get there, that's why we don't see many State Ravens for sale. Only very few already have it but they are not interested in admitting this, because they then would not be able to sell their State Ravens for 60 bil, as this prices are only possible if everyone thinks there are only 6 of them on tq (or how much bob ever got from the last tournament). I try to bring the truth to the forums but the owners of that ravens state issue constantly flame me with their various alts, as they want to keep that secret, thats why you see and will see a lot of hate posted towards me.
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Egil Kolsto
Caldari Collwood Collective
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor So all you need to see is that 10.0 ... look for the Character "Siri Blue" (my best friend btw), she has a faction standing of 10.0 I try to bring the truth to the forums but the owners of that ravens state issue constantly flame me with their various alts, as they want to keep that secret, thats why you see and will see a lot of hate posted towards me.
Very Funny, you have been posting this for a while now, never had a sliver of evidence and now you have convieniently added from the arguments against your "idea" to support your still-only-stories. So with your supposed friend, if she posted here that she had in fact one of these "state" ships you would have half an ounce of "evidence." As it is, until you or a reputable mission runner come and post a real proof, your fairy-tales will stay just that. Wish-full thinking. Was slightly humorous the first time you posted it, now it is getting borderline stupid.
Real proof please!
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the blender
the Gentleman Loser
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:15:00 -
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I'm just gonna suggest people read this topic.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=521148
Castra has badly adjusted his story and couldnt even be bothered to get the persons name right (some friend you are). If after that you still wanna grind a 10 standing. Somthing that Castra dosnt have by the way then by all means grind away. You'll get a CNR. In fact by the time you've finished you should have several.
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Ralara
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 30/05/2007 06:24:32
Originally by: Castra Noor
Originally by: Kery Nysell Those agents in space that give "Navy" BPCs were introduced a bit before the first COSMOS went live, they have been documented to hell and back ... you can believe it, they exist and give 2-runs BPCs.
But that won't deflate the value of a CNR, having 9.9+ in Caldari State standing is really hard to get, that means YEARS of missions ...
AFAIK, the frigates need 8.4+ standing toward the Faction, the cruisers 9.2+, and of course you need the 30 tags the agent asks for ...
Yes this is true. However, you forgot the State Issue Battelship BPC which you get with a faction standing of 10.0 (e.g. Raven State Issue, 1 run BPC ME 20 PE 8).
No you don't.
Why do you keep telling people this?
The State Issue was a PRIZE for a TOURNAMENT. They are not possible to get any other way at the moment.
Sira didn't get a Federation issue megathron when he got 10.0 standings, i talk to him (or her!) pretty regularly since he/she required the 400 drone AI units for an offer - I tried to assist him and we've been on eachother's contacts list since then.
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.05.30 09:16:00 -
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I remember hearing that there was a gallente COSMOS bug which gave out a federation issue insted of a navy issue. This got fixed I hear.
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2007.05.30 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: bloomich I remember hearing that there was a gallente COSMOS bug which gave out a federation issue insted of a navy issue. This got fixed I hear.
I know that for a while the bpc's being given out where 1 run. My navy Vexor was 1 run but fortunatley by the time I got standings for the 'thron (regular Navy, not Federate sadly) it was back up to a 2 run bpc
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