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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
429
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Posted - 2017.07.18 11:09:45 -
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has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
531
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Posted - 2017.07.18 12:08:37 -
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285 points unlock: 4 PLEX
Hahahahaha Even level 1 missions have higher ISK/h. CCP is trolling us.
Login boosters in EVE ... proofes that devs arent playing the game. |
JaakJaak
hotdropoclock Enterprises NullSechnaya Sholupen
6
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Posted - 2017.07.18 15:07:54 -
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This is pointless rather run complex in 0.0 make way more isk. |
sayyes cyno
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.07.18 15:41:10 -
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you beter run these agency ..and get a cool for skin ....cause running 10/10's in 0.0 gives you a hanging sack |
Kani Tsuguro
IvoryTower
5
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Posted - 2017.07.18 15:49:46 -
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Can it be that some challenges are not working correctly?
Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site. - I did it in a Drake -> success. Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Battlecruiser. - I did that three times in a Drake -> no success Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Tech III Cruiser. - I did it in a Tengu -> no success
Do I something wrong? |
Mandor M Sawall
Whiskey Tango Zulu
4
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Posted - 2017.07.18 16:00:26 -
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I tried doing combat sites in a proteus both scanned and not scanned ones. No success. Have not closed objectives. CCP? |
Gabriel McPliskin
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.07.18 16:16:50 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess.
Worst prizes in a game, I have ever seen. Ever. |
Mandor M Sawall
Whiskey Tango Zulu
4
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Posted - 2017.07.18 17:32:11 -
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Gabriel McPliskin wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. Worst prizes in a game, I have ever seen. Ever.
I agree. n00bs are probably better off doing level 2 missions. LOL |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
432
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Posted - 2017.07.18 18:27:08 -
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for additional "luls" if anyone had not previously checked sisi, the rewards on sisi were actually better. ccp removed some of the rewards, you originally got 5 plex for the final plex reward, not 4.
.......
seriously, 5.
Kani Tsuguro wrote:Can it be that some challenges are not working correctly?
Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site. - I did it in a Drake -> success. Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Battlecruiser. - I did that three times in a Drake -> no success Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Tech III Cruiser. - I did it in a Tengu -> no success
Do I something wrong?
i had that issue on the test server, but my issue was i completed them and they didnt reset correctly the next day. |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
312
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Posted - 2017.07.18 19:14:03 -
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Kani Tsuguro wrote:Can it be that some challenges are not working correctly?
Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site. - I did it in a Drake -> success. Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Battlecruiser. - I did that three times in a Drake -> no success Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Tech III Cruiser. - I did it in a Tengu -> no success
Do I something wrong?
make sure its a combat site that requires probing, i don't think it counts the freebie anoms because they aren't really signatures |
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BUISNESSWOMAN
MMMONSTER ENERGY
3
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Posted - 2017.07.18 19:25:00 -
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I locate and complete 3 sites today on Tengu: Serpentis Watch, Serpentis Lookout, Desolate dont work I locate and complete 4.10 DED on Prophecy : Serpentis PHI-Outpost dont work WTF??? |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
312
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Posted - 2017.07.18 19:30:48 -
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BUISNESSWOMAN wrote:I locate and complete 3 sites today on Tengu: Serpentis Watch, Serpentis Lookout, Desolate dont work I locate and complete 4.10 DED on Prophecy : Serpentis PHI-Outpost dont work WTF???
Probe sites or were they anoms? |
BUISNESSWOMAN
MMMONSTER ENERGY
3
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Posted - 2017.07.18 19:33:25 -
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Probes of course |
Voivod Bathory
First point of Aries
2
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Posted - 2017.07.18 20:06:01 -
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Same here.
Sansha vigil probed and completed in a Tengu, all rats and guns destroyed, all triggers activated.
But I'm not getting my strategic enforcement completed. |
SiRL4wL AloT
Covfefe - Build A Space Wall
0
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Posted - 2017.07.18 21:04:06 -
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Same here, Strat Cruiser quest is bugged. Tried it with Tengu on the ones u have to scan and the others, no success.
Well, nice work again @CCP, crap rewards and crap bugged missions. Glad there is a test server for stuff like this, thumbs up! |
Gneeznow
Ship spinners inc
241
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Posted - 2017.07.18 21:31:43 -
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oh man 6 hours work for like, one single nuPlex, back to Darkest Dungeon I go! |
Oradric Cube
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2017.07.18 23:49:52 -
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Twice now today I should have received Battlecruiser Enforcement credit and I have not. This has been a super frustrating experience so far. It's understandable that things go wrong but why has CCP not communicated this failure to us? I really do not appreciate this at all. |
Anna Maria Yolo
Neutron Blaster Solutions
31
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Posted - 2017.07.19 00:03:21 -
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CCP, dont you affraid that giving such insane amount of plexes will damage the market?
I understand that you are looking something to encourage ppl to log in each day. This event will not do this work. One year ago you have made awesome event with 10k free exp for one NPC kill. This was very motivating. This one is crap. |
Tekkaa
QuantumTech Industries League 0f Grumpy 0ld Farts
6
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Posted - 2017.07.19 00:51:27 -
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Are the rewards going to get any better though? Surely the more you do they get better? |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
432
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Posted - 2017.07.19 01:35:50 -
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Tekkaa wrote:Are the rewards going to get any better though? Surely the more you do they get better?
does not appear so, cant slide the rewards bar so i dont believe theres anything above the tengu skin. |
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Jay DeHeega
Zarnfell Yulai Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.07.19 01:37:50 -
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Anna Maria Yolo wrote:CCP, dont you affraid that giving such insane amount of plexes will damage the market? I understand that you are looking something to encourage ppl to log in each day. This event will not do this work. One year ago you have made awesome event with 10k free exp for one NPC kill. That was very motivating. This one is crap.
This ^^ |
Scott Tracy
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.07.19 01:46:24 -
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With 2 of the events bugged the battlecruiser and tech3 cruiser how are we supposed to get top prize of tech3 skin |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
432
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Posted - 2017.07.19 02:08:05 -
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Scott Tracy wrote:With 2 of the events bugged the battlecruiser and tech3 cruiser how are we supposed to get top prize of tech3 skin
if youve viewed the skin its just the regular tengu skin but slightly darker. i doubt it will end up being worth much.
the point of the event is to grind endlessly for embarrassing rewards, youll likely have plenty of time to complete it. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62833
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Posted - 2017.07.19 05:32:13 -
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I'm just wondering, did any of you people bother notifying CCP that the event is bugged ?
After spending multiple hours trying to complete that event, you can easily take a few minutes to submit a Support Ticket and file a Bug Report.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
438
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Posted - 2017.07.19 07:22:21 -
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I haven't had any issues yet that I had a few days ago on sisi.
Only two I have left is t3 cruiser which I can't fly. (So I basically have it stuck there) And the battle cruiser Sig one. I've done SIG's but I have not actually scanned down a signature in the BC itself and complete that same sig. |
Tekkaa
QuantumTech Industries League 0f Grumpy 0ld Farts
7
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Posted - 2017.07.19 07:27:16 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I'm just wondering, did any of you people bother notifying CCP that the event is bugged ?
After spending multiple hours trying to complete that event, you can easily take a few minutes to submit a Support Ticket and file a Bug Report.
DMC
Lol now why would anyone do that, most communiies just complain about the problems instead of help fix them.
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Fabien Gillet
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2017.07.19 08:25:50 -
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I'm having the same issue with "Battlecruiser Enforcement" not completing. I've ran 2 combat sites in a BC after I've scanned the sites with an explo frig. |
Alasdan Helminthauge
HC - Steam Ship Aporkalypse Now
183
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Posted - 2017.07.19 08:43:53 -
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and I did not manage to troll the stratios to shoot my suspect brutix. damn. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
438
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Posted - 2017.07.19 09:33:22 -
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Fabien Gillet wrote:I'm having the same issue with "Battlecruiser Enforcement" not completing. I've ran 2 combat sites in a BC after I've scanned the sites with an explo frig. Try scanning the site down while actually in the BC? |
AgentMaster
Platinum Octopus Infernal Octopus
8
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Posted - 2017.07.19 10:41:26 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Fabien Gillet wrote:I'm having the same issue with "Battlecruiser Enforcement" not completing. I've ran 2 combat sites in a BC after I've scanned the sites with an explo frig. Try scanning the site down while actually in the BC?
Scan and complette hem both on t3 and bc - no sucess - there is a bug!!!
Blessed is the man who has nothing to say and remain silent yet!!
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Wallstreet J0urnal
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2017.07.19 11:47:15 -
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I think this is more geared for new players. |
Oradric Cube
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2017.07.19 12:20:29 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I'm just wondering, did any of you people bother notifying CCP that the event is bugged ?
After spending multiple hours trying to complete that event, you can easily take a few minutes to submit a Support Ticket and file a Bug Report.
DMC
I submitted a support ticket specifically related to the Battlecruiser Enforcement mission and GM Iceberg said "We're aware of this issue, and our DEV Team is actively working on resolving this as soon as possible." It galls me that they'll admit that they know about the problem, but they won't actually make a statement to their player base to notify them of the issue. |
Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
326
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Posted - 2017.07.19 12:40:48 -
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Not even worth loging in.
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Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
154
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Posted - 2017.07.19 13:01:42 -
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Yay!! Free stuff. If you don't like it then just say thanks and move along. Nothing more to say here. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
533
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Posted - 2017.07.19 13:31:13 -
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Gneeznow wrote:oh man 6 hours work for like, one single nuPlex, back to Darkest Dungeon I go! It seems the dev team who made the agency event hasnt heard of the PLEX changes CCP made in May.
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
439
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Posted - 2017.07.19 13:45:59 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Gneeznow wrote:oh man 6 hours work for like, one single nuPlex, back to Darkest Dungeon I go! It seems the dev team who made the agency event hasnt heard of the PLEX changes CCP made in May.
in that case it must be the same team behind rogue swarm. oh look 1 plex drop after running 50 swarm sites, just 499 to go. |
Malphas Vynneve
Apple of Discord Straight Jacket Bears
31
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Posted - 2017.07.19 14:33:35 -
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Anna Maria Yolo wrote:CCP, dont you affraid that giving such insane amount of plexes will damage the market? I understand that you are looking something to encourage ppl to log in each day. This event will not do this work. One year ago you have made awesome event with 10k free exp for one NPC kill. That was very motivating. This one is crap.
I agree with this statement completely. The Thrill Of The Hunt daily opportunity needs to come back. |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
75
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Posted - 2017.07.19 15:05:36 -
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when I logged in last night and read this event crap..
I logged right out again
ccp really in all seriousness.. go screw yourselves.
you've ruined my normal Eve online Summer
this is by the worse summer in eve online ive experienced ever and this event and incredible evidence that you guys have no freaking idea on how to create legitimate fun pve experiences proves even further that the competition coming your way is going to b!tch slap you hard that it'll make your executive producer actually wear a freaking dress to work one day.
yes I said it.. so let it be.. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1223
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Posted - 2017.07.19 17:12:27 -
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Event is so bad that i didn't even attempt to go out and do it,
What is an agency?
Why are rewards so bad?
Why i am drug up on login?
While on drugs...where is the good stuff? give me something that require neurotoxin control and recovery at l5 just to stay alive after using it with dual moderate bonuses for DMG and Projection.Not in this event though its beyond bad.
Give me boosters via redeem option so i can use them when i can have some use of them don't mess with my head when you feel like it.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
77
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Posted - 2017.07.19 17:20:58 -
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this is event is so bad that it makes lv 5 distribution missions look like themepark level content. |
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Baboo Yagu
35
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Posted - 2017.07.19 20:09:49 -
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They're all bugged. I've just done the 'kill 25 pirates' one and it's just sitting there showing 25/25 yet I didn't receive the 10pts and it didn't disappear to show the 'next thing in 22hrs' box.
Bug report sent.
Hello darkness, my old friend.
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Jaime Hareka
Steam Powered Spaceships
0
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Posted - 2017.07.20 02:51:54 -
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I'll give you another one:
"Next challange: 0s"
... and that's it. Nothing happens. |
AgentMaster
Platinum Octopus Infernal Octopus
8
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Posted - 2017.07.20 04:44:38 -
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Why this issue was not reported on test server? How many ppl complete these tasks on test server? Anyway pve content is very importatant to me because PVE is made by EVE! PVP is made by players and look how beautiful look it. But i cant see the same in PVE - its like slow motion - how many new missions was made for last 10 years? Why people who like pv-¦ are forced to do the same 4 level missions for so many years? Therefore, they are thirsty for new content and when this content is presented to them in such a deplorable form they are completely right in their indignation!
Blessed is the man who has nothing to say and remain silent yet!!
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Henri Alabel
Dane Solo Corp Inc
5
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Posted - 2017.07.20 15:26:53 -
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Logged in about 30 minutes ago. Countdown to next booster 22 minutes. I go do some stuff, countdown get to zero, log out and log in again. No booster .... not impressed CCP |
Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6756
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Posted - 2017.07.20 16:08:16 -
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Kani Tsuguro wrote:Can it be that some challenges are not working correctly?
Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site. - I did it in a Drake -> success. Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Battlecruiser. - I did that three times in a Drake -> no success Locate and complete a Combat Signature Site, while flying a Tech III Cruiser. - I did it in a Tengu -> no success
Do I something wrong?
You used a drake.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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hog butter
Romex Inc. Dustm3n
13
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Posted - 2017.07.20 17:22:47 -
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So I'll bite
Why is this for new players tech 3 ships and battle cruisers ftw? So if you don't have the skills for those ships go pound sand. Sweet I guess CCP opted me out of this one?
CCP stop awarding 1 plex it makes you look like morons. No one wants 1/500 of one month of game time as a reward for anything other then logging in. You want to give me 1 plex a day for a login bonus i'm down but if I see 1 plex as loot again i'm trashing it. It makes you look stingy and is a big screw off when players figure out the drop rates of your 1/500 of one month of game time. Just give out something else give me a booster or some valuable skill book stingy Plex is not rewarding.
Lets do the math on that so for everyone involved can see.
1/500 = 0.002% of one month 1 Plex = 1.44 hours of game time on a 30 day month (720 hours). |
Roderick Mellius
Prometheus LTD
0
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Posted - 2017.07.20 17:42:55 -
[47] - Quote
Well I'm after a 2y break, so I'm doing it just to get the hang of things again.
Rewards are crap, tho. |
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
194
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Posted - 2017.07.20 18:02:34 -
[48] - Quote
I'm pretty much just playing like normal with the exception of stopping by a belt to kill 5 rats there.
I get 30 points a day without doing anything different than I normally would. Given that I'm not changing my gameplay much... it's all a bonus I suppose. |
Hello Meow Kitty
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
39
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Posted - 2017.07.20 19:23:17 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess.
Dude it's free things just playing the game. Do I agree the boosters should be maybe packages of 3-5, yes. But just doing normal gameplay (usually) you are rewarded.
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Joy Pad
TIME WARP Corp New Eden Terraform Alliance
0
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Posted - 2017.07.20 21:13:18 -
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I don't get any new challenges, the counter stays at "next challange: 0 seconds" and this since some hours.
Is this normal? |
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Ivan Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
4
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Posted - 2017.07.20 21:34:19 -
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Decided not to get into this "Agency" thing.
So I run a L4 mission, kill some Guristas, and get 10pts anyway. Whoop de do.
This event is over in 11/12 days, so at that rate I'll get 120pts. Is that enough to get a booster than last 1800sec?
In looking at some of the information, I see that if you do something in a battle cruiser you get 4 points. Wow.
If you do earn enough points in this event, you can get a skin for a Strategic cruiser. That leaves out Alphas.
CCP dudes and dudettes, what were you thinking?
And with plenty of other good comments from others, I see no initiative to do any more that what I am doing.
Ivan K. |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
81
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Posted - 2017.07.20 22:45:13 -
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Hello Meow Kitty wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. Dude it's free things just playing the game. Do I agree the boosters should be maybe packages of 3-5, yes. But just doing normal gameplay (usually) you are rewarded.
I hate it when someone tries to say "dude its for free why complain"
I complain about this crap due to fact its something I never asked for nor demanded from ccp.. ccp instead used labor hours to fawk up..again.. and put forth the absolute most worthless "event" of all time for some stupid ship skin.
its wasted time..point blank simple.
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Skyslider
Omerta Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2017.07.21 02:57:26 -
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Four of the challenges are stuck on "Next challenge: 0s"
Re-logging hasn't helped. It's been several hours at this point.
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
449
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Posted - 2017.07.21 04:14:24 -
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Hello Meow Kitty wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. Dude it's free things just playing the game. Do I agree the boosters should be maybe packages of 3-5, yes. But just doing normal gameplay (usually) you are rewarded. If NPCs had Plex in the drop table maybe. CCP is desperately trying to lower Plex prices only they haven't done a single meaningful thing to achieve that. 1 Plex for 2-3 days of this event is embarassing even by their standards. Throw a 100 Plex drop into faction spawns loot tables as an ultra rare drop. Problem solved. Why waste time trying to get people to follow these timers for two weeks and accomplish nothing. Faction spawns are dud drops 9/10 times already. It's time to buff them. |
Anna Maria Yolo
Neutron Blaster Solutions
36
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Posted - 2017.07.21 04:14:59 -
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hog butter wrote:
This creates two problems CCP selling PLEX for dollars so this reserve currency cannot crash otherwise this will cause CCP loose profits. You cannot exercise control over the market like a central bank because your profits are tied to the dilution of the PLEX. Players are hording them being the safest asset to hold because of Plex Vault changes. This causes the price to climb without much of an end in sight except the occasional crash i'm sure. The other problem is when PLEX climbs now anyone that buys plex has much more leverage over the commodities economy. You would normally re-balance this would by "printing" currency however every PLEX you give is viewed by CCP as a Plex not sold ouch.
CCP you created a reserve currency that you don't want to manipulate without hurting your short-term potential profits. This will cost players potentially and CCP by extension. The problem becomes exacerbated when you don't want to dilute the market because your cannibalizing your profits (IE giving out 1 PLEX as loot) and this means your have no measure to stop the inflation of PLEX and deflation of commodities that is sure to come.
So in short ISK is not money anymore PLEX is and if your wallet is filled with ISK, materials, or any under preforming assets you will be losing money by holding them versus PLEX.
This just in a new position created at CCP an economist to help them not ruin their game.
Exactly. You have mistaken in one point, but it is rather mistype than mistake. We will be observing devaluation of ISK (not PLEXes) and assets as well, and appreciacion of PLEX, what will cause further inflation of ISK. The exchange rate of a real world currency is set at 500 plexes / month / 15 USD. ISK is not connected this way, so it is much safer to keep the wallet in PLEXes rather than ISKs. Increasing demand will cause a speculation opportunity and sooner or later we will see a giant speculation on the PLEXes. I think that this fall the price of PLEX will reach 4m or more.
This will seriously damage the New Eden market (many activities will not be profitable and maintaining many accounts will be much more challenging) but finally we will see the bright side - visiting EVE we will be like on the trip in Zimbabwe where we could exchange 1 USD for billions of Zimbodollars. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
449
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Posted - 2017.07.21 04:25:36 -
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hog butter wrote:So I'll bite
Why is this for new players tech 3 ships and battle cruisers ftw? So if you don't have the skills for those ships go pound sand. Sweet I guess CCP opted me out of this one?
CCP stop awarding 1 PLEX it makes you look like morons. No one wants 1/500 of one month of game time as a reward for anything other then logging in. You want to give me 1 PLEX a day for a login bonus i'm down but if I see 1 PLEX as loot again i'm trashing it. It makes you look stingy and is a big screw off when players figure out the drop rates of your 1/500 of one month of game time. Just give out something else give me a booster or some valuable skill book stingy PLEX is not rewarding.
Lets do the math on that so for everyone involved can see.
1/500 = 0.002% of one month 1 PLEX = 1.44 hours of game time on a 30 day month (720 hours).
Weak Sauce.
Not to mention the commodities markets are getting beat because their is a flight to safety in the new PLEX denomination and vault changes. This has caused a defacto reserve currency outside of ISK (PLEX) and thus tethering your game currency to your reserve currency (PLEX).
This creates two problems CCP selling PLEX for dollars so this reserve currency cannot crash otherwise this will cause CCP loose profits. You cannot exercise control over the market like a central bank because your profits are tied to the dilution of the PLEX. Players are hording them being the safest asset to hold because of Plex Vault changes. This causes the price to climb without much of an end in sight except the occasional crash i'm sure. The other problem is when PLEX climbs now anyone that buys plex has much more leverage over the commodities economy. You would normally re-balance this would by "printing" currency however every PLEX you give is viewed by CCP as a Plex not sold ouch.
CCP you created a reserve currency that you don't want to manipulate without hurting your short-term potential profits. This will cost players potentially and CCP by extension. The problem becomes exacerbated when you don't want to dilute the market because your cannibalizing your profits (IE giving out 1 PLEX as loot) and this means your have no measure to stop the inflation of PLEX and deflation of commodities that is sure to come.
So in short ISK is not money anymore PLEX is and if your wallet is filled with ISK, materials, or any under preforming assets you will be losing money by holding them versus PLEX.
This just in a new position created at CCP an economist to help them not ruin their game.
See this guy gets it too. It was the same during the rogue swarm event, Oh look at that, I ran 200-230+ swarm sites. Give or take ten. Got 4 Plex to show for it. Plex drops during the swarm event were so worthless you were actually losing money over any other skin drop/booster drop.
The 1 hour of game time you get after 2 or 3 days of doing these tasks assuming they don't glitch and you can actually complete them is completely offset by the time required to do the actual tasks so in the end you're actually losing game time and the Plex reward itself isn't actually a reward. The net gain is less than 0 to anyone participating unless you happen to fly a tengu and really want a gray ship to have a gray skin that's slightly "grayer" |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
449
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Posted - 2017.07.21 04:41:11 -
[57] - Quote
The real tell here in all of this is not a single dev response, CCP radio silent in full damage control mode as usual after a glaring blunder.
Had a Corp mate log in excited for this event excited to go out and get 90 Plex as the first reward after he had finished the first 6 tasks the day before, we all sat silently for a few seconds before I whispered "uh you know if you hover over it you see you only get 1 Plex for accumulating the 90 points right?"
Room went dead silent with a befuddled "what?" Several seconds of more silence pass followed by copious amounts of cursing out CCP which was met by laughter from all.
He is no longer actively trying to complete tasks. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
449
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Posted - 2017.07.21 05:01:55 -
[58] - Quote
Hello Meow Kitty wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. Dude it's free things just playing the game. Do I agree the boosters should be maybe packages of 3-5, yes. But just doing normal gameplay (usually) you are rewarded. So why bother with the event. Why even waste the time adding it into the game, it's safe to say everyone in this thread is aware they can make more money doing literally every other task in the game. So what incentive is there to participate in the event.
Back in the runescsoe days you had a whimsical holiday themed quest, a unique holiday themed area, mini games and the quest itself gave out a non tradable item only available during the event. Collectors items inherently worthless but at the same time priceless. Not just a recolored version of an asset we already have in the game (looking at you project discovery) try making a new tattoo or facial augmentation or a unique outfit that isn't a palette swap. You want to make a grindy event here? Create a story arc available during the event duration. 10 missions, incrementally more difficult but reasonable for all to complete alone or in groups. Voice acted like the new tutorial, have some cutscenes and actual story for once. Everyone gets the item from the levels they complete right into their redeem box. Promotes group play right there, add a few bonus rounds that don't contribute to over all progress that diverge from the main quest and focus on pvp and back stabbing for some extra fun stuff. Cosmetic items, not junk skins, actual amounts of Plex, limited 1 bpc for an event ship that will never be given out again. Maybe have a competitive event after that an (In regard to the last event this would be an "infested cruiser, BC, battleship" hull with a unique skin and some quirky bonus that isn't broken balance wise.
Log in and complete menial task #___ for junk is pretty lazy. They should have spent the time they used for this event to fix something else.
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Anna Maria Yolo
Neutron Blaster Solutions
36
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Posted - 2017.07.21 06:09:14 -
[59] - Quote
Hello Meow Kitty wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:has anyone else checked this out on the test server and agree the rewards are all completely worthless?
>useless booster >useless amount of plex >slightly darker version of the generic tengu skin
dont see much of an incentive to actually try and go out of my way to do the ... erm tasks i guess. Dude it's free things just playing the game. Do I agree the boosters should be maybe packages of 3-5, yes. But just doing normal gameplay (usually) you are rewarded.
Dude it is not about the crap prizes. This is about the fact that rewards and bugs show us that devs completely lost contact with the community and even don't play their own game, or at least dont test them on their own. Eve Online desperately needs something like "hittig the stars in WOT". To encourage ppl to log in and play each day.
The prizes could be less costly (giving 5 plexes to everyone active player is a real cost) but much more attractive - for example a new set of "Agency Skins", or a golden tooth, or a cybernetic nose or a new hairstyle, or something else which is not seeded on market in thousands with the price below 3m. Giving one PLEX is just pointless because no player will find it as a great prize, no one player cannot afford it, and no one player will actually use it without buying much more. It is like giving people a screw as a prize while they expect a car. It caused this event became crappy in the eyes of community. This shows how far devs are from us. |
Gestoon
The Ceveros Cyndicate Primary.
0
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Posted - 2017.07.21 23:02:03 -
[60] - Quote
So all my challenges say "next challenge: 0s" Am I supposed to do something to get the next one or is this normal? |
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
460
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Posted - 2017.07.22 18:04:00 -
[61] - Quote
Gestoon wrote:So all my challenges say "next challenge: 0s" Am I supposed to do something to get the next one or is this normal?
if youre frustrated and dissapointed everthing is normal. |
Jaime Hareka
Steam Powered Spaceships
1
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Posted - 2017.07.22 21:36:02 -
[62] - Quote
1st plex obtained:
http://dl.wavetrex.eu/2017/1plex.jpg
Hurray ! 499 left to go...
/sarcasm |
Pestilen Ratte
Fat Kitty Inc.
91
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Posted - 2017.07.30 12:10:56 -
[63] - Quote
The thing about this event is that multiple folks were in the room when they decided to make the "prizes".
Think about that. It was not one person, maybe waking up after a bad night out. No, this was a group of folks. One of them must have suggested the number of four plex as a major prize, second from top prize, which is a skin that only fits one race. And then, after somebody suggested that number, somebody else agreed. Somebody heard that and said "Yes, I think that is also a great way to please players. Let's give them 4 flex as the second best prize. it is four times a great as the first prize they received. they will be amazed and full of wow for our amazing talents at CCP. We will probably get bonuses and awards for game design."
A whole group of folks told each other that they thought this was a way to incentivise customers and build the reputation of the game amongst the public.
Blows my mind. i feel like that guy who got stabbed by the toaster he designed to cheat on the nerd he employed. In that movie.
Even better, this group has a future in Eve. They are planning even greater things for the coming months.
I can't wait. |
Pestilen Ratte
Fat Kitty Inc.
92
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Posted - 2017.07.31 08:46:44 -
[64] - Quote
So the grand prize in this event is a skin for a tech 3 ship that very few folks can fly, relative to EVERY OTHER SHIP CLASS.
Furthermore, it is grey. It is a grey skin, with grey tones to offset the grey.
Guess what colour the stock standard skin is?
Yep, grey.
So, to be clear, the folks who organised this event decided to offer, as the GRAND PRIZE, a skin that looks exactly like the stock standard skin. For a ship not everybody can fly.
I'm not being unkind here. Look for yourself. I guarantee you, nobody could possibly tell the difference between these skins by looking at any footage of in game combat. We can even test this, if anyone is interested. We can have two tongues flying around with the different skins, and run an A B test to see who can guess which was which, at the end of watching a fight.
CCP are trolling their customers.
It is a disgrace.
So many folks at this company have downed tools and are actively seeking to harm the IP.
The Agency Event is easily the worst effort at promotion I have ever witnessed. This is a direct FU from the staff to the owners. this is telling the owners what the staff think of them, by insulting and degrading the customers.
Time for wholesale changes at CCP. in fact, long past time.
Put me in charge for a day, I will give you all at CCP grey tengu skins.
Starting with the directors, who have completely lost control of the company. |
Sol epoch
Aliastra Gallente Federation
465
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Posted - 2017.07.31 20:45:56 -
[65] - Quote
Pestilen Ratte wrote:So the grand prize in this event is a skin for a tech 3 ship that very few folks can fly, relative to EVERY OTHER SHIP CLASS.
Furthermore, it is grey. It is a grey skin, with grey tones to offset the grey.
Guess what colour the stock standard skin is?
Yep, grey.
So, to be clear, the folks who organised this event decided to offer, as the GRAND PRIZE, a skin that looks exactly like the stock standard skin. For a ship not everybody can fly.
I'm not being unkind here. Look for yourself. I guarantee you, nobody could possibly tell the difference between these skins by looking at any footage of in game combat. We can even test this, if anyone is interested. We can have two tongues flying around with the different skins, and run an A B test to see who can guess which was which, at the end of watching a fight.
CCP are trolling their customers.
It is a disgrace.
So many folks at this company have downed tools and are actively seeking to harm the IP.
The Agency Event is easily the worst effort at promotion I have ever witnessed. This is a direct FU from the staff to the owners. this is telling the owners what the staff think of them, by insulting and degrading the customers.
Time for wholesale changes at CCP. in fact, long past time.
Put me in charge for a day, I will give you all at CCP grey tengu skins.
Starting with the directors, who have completely lost control of the company.
Whilst I agree the event is very poor, I also have to disagree with your huge assumption on what the staff are saying to the owners and how the company is run!
As for the Directors losing control of the company, The only thing I did when I read your quote was ROFL!
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ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
138
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Posted - 2017.08.01 07:45:34 -
[66] - Quote
It is meant for new players really but some things are just a but silly like so a complex in a t3. Why would anyone risk taking t3 into a complex for literally no benefit. I have to say the content creators at cap have literally no imagination or anything. It's the most dull thing to be created and yes the rewards are painfully bad.
They started doing good with the interaction that the new player experience gave and now they haven't continued that way. Don't get it |
Flick Isimazu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.08.01 11:44:59 -
[67] - Quote
What's wrong with this event? Before downtime the timer showed it was supposed to end today, 01.08. After downtime, it has 6 more days? |
Gaius Mileghere
Malleus Clusores Brothers of Tangra
1
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Posted - 2017.08.01 13:34:36 -
[68] - Quote
Flick Isimazu wrote:What's wrong with this event? Before downtime the timer showed it was supposed to end today, 01.08. After downtime, it has 6 more days?
Yeah, what gives, CCP? I'm at 428 points (without even trying) and wondering when the next prize threshold is... do I get a tengu to go with the skin? |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
483
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Posted - 2017.08.02 07:01:13 -
[69] - Quote
Flick Isimazu wrote:What's wrong with this event? Before downtime the timer showed it was supposed to end today, 01.08. After downtime, it has 6 more days?
since the devs have abandoned the old forum to answer yoour question ccp admitted it was a buggy mess and they screwed up bad and dont know how to fix some of the bugs with it atm so they extended the event. |
Boldly Gone
Winfield Star-Tech Affirmative.
12
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Posted - 2017.08.02 18:11:44 -
[70] - Quote
Probably the new expiration timer is just another bug... |
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Spank mehard
Deadspace Depot Evictus.
6
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Posted - 2017.08.03 14:05:42 -
[71] - Quote
just got my 1 plex
I would say this was successful |
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