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Noralmex Zentar
Furry Balls Plopped Menacingly On The Table LLC.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:58:37 -
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I think we all have to calm down. I've seen people on reddit telling everyone to unsub from the game because the devs "won't listen otherwise". We all need to take a calm approach to this. If we unsub and run CCP into the ground then they can't make the changes we want. If they have a lot of replies to this thread that say "We don't want [INSERT CHANGE HERE]", they will react accordingly and ask for the community's thoughts. tl;dr Calm down and let the devs look at things. |
Lillith Sakata
Jaded. Riplomacy
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Posted - 2017.06.09 21:13:52 -
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You forgot to include in that post, "!#&%ed with paying customers' queues..." https://i.gyazo.com/3f9df53eff6406e7ab5d61455b0e00a6.png
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Party Barge
I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2017.06.09 21:14:52 -
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Noralmex Zentar wrote:I think we all have to calm down. I've seen people on reddit telling everyone to unsub from the game because the devs "won't listen otherwise". We all need to take a calm approach to this. If we unsub and run CCP into the ground then they can't make the changes we want. If they have a lot of replies to this thread that say "We don't want [INSERT CHANGE HERE]", they will react accordingly and ask for the community's thoughts. tl;dr Calm down and let the devs look at things.
You do realize that this is the beginning of the end. All games, when not making money for the owners go through this stage, they come up with nerfs to increase cash. As hey do this, the player count falls. Once the player count falls enough they try to back peddle but realize there mistakes to late and its end game.............. |
Blackhog
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.06.09 21:37:35 -
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Ok this year has been a **** storm for cap pilots. So you think it's a good idea to destroy isk making for the solo account players by taking away their carrier dps and tank for their fighters, now you want to nerf their damage again and even more you want to make it so the rats can target them more often? Is that correct? WOW! CCP, way to drive more and more players away from end game content. I've been playing since 2007 and this is the 2nd time I feel super betrayed that you guys don't give to ***** how single or duo accounts play. First time being destroying the battle cruisers by making them "faction" and then giving us a nerfed t1.
from me to you CCP, Go **** yourselves with this patch. |
Vix Sparda
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.06.09 22:22:24 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:@Phantom, can you check whether the new boosters' validity can be increased by 3-4 weeks? Just let them expire a couple of days after the event is a bit lame. ... to give traders something to do. I have forwarded your feedback to the dev team, but cannot make any promises if there will be a change in expiry date. There are always a multitude of things to consider when it comes to expiry dates.
how about we not nerf the carriers and in stead nerf the vni and ishtar, and take away covert cyno use from strategic cruisers? you guys already railed mining. stop screwing over the non pvp players. and actually give them something instead. it isnt that hard. its called a nice thing. i hope you guys enjoy your now crashing sub numbers. |
Blackhog
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.06.09 22:53:09 -
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Think I am going to go fit my carriers up with civilian guns and tank and taking it to Mara Piekura gate on patch day. Then extracting all my cap skills. Done.
In protest to this nerf, let all carrier pilots bring your carriers to Mara on patch day to blow them up. |
Parisite Eve
Ranger Industries Jamyl Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:03:03 -
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Just spent the last 2 months and many skill injectors to get into a carrier. What a mistake. If I had known about this nonsense, I never would trained it at all. What a waste.
I have spent a lot of time and money on this game, I'm starting to feel like it's all waste. I have paid for 6 months and year subscriptions on several characters (look it up CCP) . I won't be doing that again. |
Jonathon Rodriguez
SUNDER. Clouds Of War
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:04:23 -
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the fighter nerf is uncalled for, and a horrible "solution" to an easily solvable problem. simply adjust the site spawn rate for those upgraded null systems that are "generating too much isk"
as for the pvp aspect, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could believe carriers are OP in pvp. supers? maybe. but regular carriers? hell no. |
Allbur Chellak
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:05:35 -
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Rorqual nerf and carrier nerf all within a week. Just wonderful. Kill me.
Almost a perfect storm on screwing up ISK generation for me.
For good or for ill, your handling of this really is ham handed CCP.
I could think of almost no worse way have doing this. Hit two of the ways that capital level people generate ISK in game, all within a short time and with no real interest in comments and feedback from the people that fly them. Both ways involve high level ships that take months and months to train into and cost many 10s of billions of ISK to buy. No easy way to change course here. No way to make up lost income in one by doing the other. Just tough luck and good day.
I enjoy this game, and try to cut you all a lot of slack, but this really does frustrate me.
Either way, all I can tell you for sure I will never be buying PLEX to fill in any gap in my income from these nerfs.
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Jed Airtech
Australian Belt Strippers Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:23:04 -
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Ashley Miston wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:george skyshudder wrote:can we get an update as to when we can expect strategic cruisers to get their rebalance? We are happily using a nice process here for the focus group, and it is very transparent. To have a look at the discussions, please check the discussion logs. To have a look at first proposed changes, please have a look at the Google sheets WIP document. Please be aware that all this is work in progress (WIP) and should be treated as this. These are by no means any final numbers or decisions! "Full transparancy with balancing changes" "Feedback and suggestions really appreciated" just lol......4 days notice to nerf someting that take MONTHS of investment and i don't see things like focus group about that
^This |
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1380
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:32:06 -
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CCP Phantom - I actually feel sorry for you having to be the one confirming how quickly Eve is going downhill..
I keep waiting for the day you'll announce new content, fixes for years old bugs and issues, something that is actually a well thought out "balance change".
Instead all you do is announce how many nerfs come with the next patch and confirm with each thread how little Devs understand what it is they are doing.
As for the new Sin model - Really?
-- - -- - -- - -- 7 of 11 accounts Alpha.. I used to pay with my card for my 2 main characters as I wanted to support a game i loved, I used to buy plex every now and then for the same reason. Credit card details removed. ALL accounts "subscription cancelled". IF I can't plex my remaining active accounts in the limited time I have to play without sacrificing time in fleets (the primary reason I play Eve) then they too will turn Alpha.
Will be 10 years in August since I started my first account. I wonder If I will have any reason to log in for the beginning of the next decade.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Miagen
Vapid Vacuums Inc. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2017.06.09 23:44:43 -
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If you're going to nerf the fighters can I atleast have my 14 ly jump range back. Atleast then I can use it for logistics. |
Alpha Renegade
Bandit Coalition Co.
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Posted - 2017.06.10 00:06:40 -
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Have never posted before but thought this one deserved it. THIS **** IS DUMB.. The NPCs shoot at the fighters like 80% of the time now and with the sig increase if they stop moving for just a sec you lose 2 or 3. So agian ill say, THIS **** IS DUMB.. |
War Syndrome
Ministry of Offense Brothers in Arms Alliance
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Posted - 2017.06.10 00:07:00 -
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We are happily using a nice process here for the focus group, and it is very transparent.
"Full transparancy with balancing changes"
"Feedback and suggestions really appreciated"
CCP Phantom you speak like a politician not like game developer...what are you talking about....about which balancing??? Only capitals who need to be balanced are dreds,,,,But u are nerfing carriers and supers... U talking how supers and carriers to much effective in PVP/PVE..Did u guys from CCP ever play EVE???Two or three Naglfar will kill Supercarrier without problems....You will probably be satisfied when 10 caracals do the same thing... 15 bomber will kill carrier in about 2-3 min Talking about Supers and carriers generate to much isk so u nerf it to death....Why u did not forbid multiboxing insteadi of that.... With these changes only active solo players are affected, not afk ratters and multiboxers. I've read about 50 pages of negative comments but CCP don't read that ...and CCP Phantom talking how CCP take care about players opinion....What kind of hypocrite
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Cactus Truly
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 00:21:11 -
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Thanks for the hard work guys. |
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1380
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Posted - 2017.06.10 00:21:31 -
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War Syndrome wrote:We are happily using a nice process here for the focus group, and it is very transparent.
"Full transparancy with balancing changes"
"Feedback and suggestions really appreciated"
CCP Phantom you speak like a politician not like game developer...what are you talking about....about which balancing??? Only capitals who need to be balanced are dreds,,,,But u are nerfing carriers and supers... U talking how supers and carriers to much effective in PVP/PVE..Did u guys from CCP ever play EVE???Two or three Naglfar will kill Supercarrier without problems....You will probably be satisfied when 10 caracals do the same thing... 15 bomber will kill carrier in about 2-3 min Talking about Supers and carriers generate to much isk so u nerf it to death....Why u did not forbid multiboxing insteadi of that.... With these changes only active solo players are affected, not afk ratters and multiboxers. I've read about 50 pages of negative comments but CCP don't read that ...and CCP Phantom talking how CCP take care about players opinion....What kind of hypocrite
In CCP Phantoms defense - He is just the puppet chosen to deliver the news, he doesn't actually have much if anything to do with what he posts, good or bad..
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:25:37 -
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Alpha Renegade wrote:Have never posted before but thought this one deserved it. THIS **** IS DUMB.. The NPCs shoot at the fighters like 80% of the time now and with the sig increase if they stop moving for just a sec you lose 2 or 3. So agian ill say, THIS **** IS DUMB.. Exactly. It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if they didn't just slam on the brakes. |
Darvo Thellere
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:44:39 -
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well on the one hand i kinda regret spending so much time in skilling fighters V and minmatar+gallente carrier. but on the other hand i think that making ratting harder and less effective in carriers is great.
increase the prices for pirate stuff, reduce income. make money more valuable and make people use cheaper ships again instead.
and to all those carebears who are crying like little girls about how they are not able to do their freakin 60 mil / tick (i do it myself so dont play it down): you lost any idea about the worth of isk. "end content" is not to just undock and generate an infinite amount of money, it is not to be able to field marauders in pvp just for the lols because you can easily replace it with two hours of ratting. just deal with it. on a longterm, it's a good thing.
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Darvo Thellere
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:46:46 -
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Alpha Renegade wrote:Have never posted before but thought this one deserved it. THIS **** IS DUMB.. The NPCs shoot at the fighters like 80% of the time now and with the sig increase if they stop moving for just a sec you lose 2 or 3. So agian ill say, THIS **** IS DUMB..
ratting for month in nullsec with thanatos and/or nidhoggur. never lost one single fighter to npcs. neither drones nor angels (lived in both spaces). sounds like you either suck in handling carriers or are multiboxing so you dont notice when your fighters are not moving. become faster and priorize the correct targets and you'll never have your fighters shield get lower than 90%.
sometimes you carebears annoy me. |
Darvo Thellere
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 01:47:35 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: Exactly. It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if they didn't just slam on the brakes.
noob, please learn how to use carriers. ^ see comment above. |
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Always Watching II
C.I.A Circus Animals
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Posted - 2017.06.10 02:06:50 -
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"shakes head at CCP"
Had 10 accounts now over 12yrs down to my last one which runs out July and I bid all at Eve farewell sick of the bull s h i t not doing it anymore.
CCP seem more interested in new customers who come and go, rather then supporting a very loyal client base who spend a lot of money on eve. maybe Microsoft did buy eve after all?
(_(_)===D ccp can suck that |
ShadowPewl
Angry Dragons The-Culture
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Posted - 2017.06.10 05:32:13 -
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As a ten year player of the game I can say with confidence, CCP you are stupid.
Once again instead of refining a great environment with a surgeons knife you dismember it with a jackhammer. When will you ever learn?
A 30% reduction in super damage? Nerfing rorquals yet again? Have you ever played this game?
It is just so easy to balance this game....Reduce the damage application by supers i.e. make them hit rats and not instapop cruisers duuuuuuuuuuuuh, keep their ratting dominance, and keep rorquals as the drivers of industry... I just don't get how you can make the same stupid screw ups over, and over, and over, and over.
Lets summarize...Decrease ratting yield $$$$$, decrease mining yield $$$$$, decrease deadspace drops $$$$$, just admit you need money. Sad. Sad. Sad. Maybe we can just all play WoW. |
Kalioria
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2017.06.10 06:34:59 -
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Always Watching II wrote: CCP seem more interested in new customers who come and go, rather then supporting a very loyal client base who spend a lot of money on eve. maybe Microsoft did buy eve after all?
It's because with skill injectors CCP added a fast way to make money, money from new players. Only very limited amount of old players is needed. Just how it worked a year ago
- Hey, there are so many shiny ships here, - a newbie says. - Yep, I farm on Thanatos and make 180 mil per hour, - older player said. - And I have a rorqual, after latest boost it mines so cool! - some miner said.
So many new players set their goals to get some carrier or rorqual, they spend money to speed it up, enjoy their new toy for several weeks. CCP income drops and they need to nerf what is cool so people would need to buy injectors to learn smth else.
Accepting isk donations for ammo.
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Capqu
Half Empty skill urself
1321
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Posted - 2017.06.10 08:06:21 -
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Calisi Targaris wrote:@CCP Phantom. Why not take the same process with rorquals and carriers as you are with T3C's instead of flipping everyone on their heads who have spent months training to reach goals and to enjoy the fruits of their dedication! Instead your making hasty and rash adjustments that cause Havoc on the economy of which you claim is the reason for such chamges in the first place...
they have a capitals focus group (of which i am a part)
they didn't even inform us of the changes, we found out at the same time as you guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg
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Bungler
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.10 09:16:32 -
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Cephei Kells wrote:Next weeks headlines:
Player count halved CCP still know best
Profits still going up
Care to tell me why you say this? I am relatively new and wonder why there are so many people hating on the game so much. I am enjoying it thus far. Don't mean to be rude, just genuinely curious.
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Battle Hardened
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 10:02:40 -
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No tears or whining from this Goon. CCP let us build incredible wealth and power over the last year or so with over-powered mining and ratting game mechanics. Imperium pilots taking advantage of these mechanics have become beyond rich. We have huge stockpiles of minerals , Super and Titan hulls are now in stacks in our hangars. We have 1000's of faction battleship BPC's in stock.
Now for the majority of the rest of the player base HAHA!!! Good luck now trying to match or counter what the Imperium can field now!!
CCP has made it very easy for us now to do as we please , and very difficult for those that have not reached that level.
The "nerfs" of late have basically given us the "Green light" to roll over and destroy our targets , with absolutely no risk to us.
This is a classic case of "too little too late" Imperium economic reports prove this.
I say good luck to the rest of the player base countering our next "we are not out to ruin the game , just your game. " endeavors.
Keep up the good work CCP!
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
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Posted - 2017.06.10 10:11:24 -
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Bungler wrote:Cephei Kells wrote:Next weeks headlines:
Player count halved CCP still know best
Profits still going up Care to tell me why you say this? I am relatively new and wonder why there are so many people hating on the game so much. I am enjoying it thus far. Don't mean to be rude, just genuinely curious.
Welcome to Eve, Constructive questions can never be considered rude.
What's going on here is the culmination of over six years of CCP screwing over the Eve Community. I took a look at some of the Alliance Chat logs I have from way back then, you could hardly fit a word in they were so busy, Scroll forwards two years and CCP's change to Jump bridges had really taken hold, Alliance chat, well you could have written a novel in there and few would have noticed, the community has still not recovered from that one issue to this day.
Another year on and the Nerf fest had really infected the game, hundreds of accounts un-subbed down to a EULA issue, then Cap nerf's, Fatigue, Fozzie sov, you name it they lashed out at it, the final insults, Pay to win skill injectors and Alpha clones and they are still not satisfied as there still at it, more mining nerf's, more cap nerf's, more rightfully angry players.
By your own hand be it that the market is on the verge of runaway inflation, you sowed the seeds years ago and are now reaping the results, You had a thriving game full of interesting and vibrant players, no wonder they left the game.
I run a Corporation about to celebrate 15 years in game, our leadership was looking for a meaningful way to share this achievement, seems from the comments I am now getting it will probably be a wake.
Way to go CCP.
Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
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lise moon
Hard-line Syndicate Serrice Council.
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Posted - 2017.06.10 11:04:15 -
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Just want to add to the furious numbers in distaste of the carrier changes, What about the pilots that don't sit there all day ratting, and have minimal time, time enough to not bother un-docking if isk vs time vs risk is against them. it was good to know it wasn't going to take half a day to replace a mediocre ship loss, a few of ticks in my carrier could suffice without me having to sacrifice RL completely. Having big ship losses now will probably result in more demoralisation and bad feeling than it already did knowing that replacing said ship will be twice the work/ time invested it already was (unless u get your RL wallet out)....Rage quit and go play something that does not require 24:7 active attention with minimal reward I think ^^ |
brosha
The Dysfunctionals Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.10 11:25:07 -
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This change will only cause problems with people in low sec and null sec area's. This doesn't fix problem's it cause's them, how about fixing issue's other than causing them. |
Wide Smiles
The Dysfunctionals Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.10 11:35:12 -
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CCP can you maybe not? Please? |
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