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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2017.05.19 14:43:39 -
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Skill Injectors are a clever and balanced way to speed up the progression of your character or to quickly bridge some shortage of skill points. The only drawback: they can be a bit expensive and too big.
With May 23, weGÇÖre going to introduce a new type of Skill Injector. This new injector will be one 1/5 of the size of a current injector, bringing Skill Trading into a more reasonable price range on the market for everyone.
Check out the details in this blog Increased Skill Injector Flexibility Coming On May 23rd.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
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Gedalya 'cuck' Rabbinowitz
Adversity. Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 14:53:07 -
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Hey, have you considered making eve an enjoyable game to play? Instead of nickel and diming the players with monetization everywhere? |
Demolishar
United Aggression Corpse Collectors Group
1249
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:01:24 -
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Can we have some QOL improvements though, like being able to extract multiple injectors at once instead of going through the same screens 1000 times? |
Benje en Divalone
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:08:05 -
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Interesting idea. Have you guys really thought this through though?
Peeking at the market I expect these to trade somewhere between 150 and 200M apiece. I know that's pocket change for some number of folks but for new players that's a rather daunting figure.
I don't think it'll meet the stated objective of "bringing Skill Trading into a more reasonable price range on the market for newer players". As somebody that started in mid-February it's only by a happy accident that I could consider these affordable. |
Lothros Andastar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
294
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:18:26 -
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Can we instead have actual features and improvements instead of more Pay2Win things? |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
369
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:25:45 -
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Gedalya 'cuck' Rabbinowitz wrote:Hey, have you considered making eve an enjoyable game to play? Instead of nickel and diming the players with monetization everywhere? They need more money for their VR projects. The Icelandic Krona must flow. |
Knag Simner Arsten
Sparkle Pony Inc
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:26:18 -
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Since you can already "Activate N x Skill Injector" on a stack of them, there's no reason for the continued existence of the "large" skill injector in this model. Just have an extractor turn into 5x smalls when it's used. You'll have to go through another type conversion, turning all the existing "large" ones into smalls, but you've had practice for that; whatever lessons you learned mucking with the definition of "PLEX" should apply. |
BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:27:01 -
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Next up...
You can now enjoy the status of Omega clone for a limited time.. At the cost of only 150 PLEX you can go Omega for a week.. Want to train that few skills quicker? go miniOmega .. Want to try what it's like to fly an Astero? go mini Omega ..
It's obvious that with the potential buyout of CCP and big money on the horizon the first priority is to pump up the company net worth by monetizing anything possible.
The fact that the game needs a lot of serious work, the UI is hopelessly inconsistent and lacking in so many ways and quite a few half baked new features were introduced before they were ready and are now still not fixed obviously is not relevant. The answer will be 'those are with a different team'..
CCPlease.. you are becoming a joke and there are several serious contenders coming up atm..
EVE vegas is going to be fun.. there will be no hiding from your playerbase there.. But you can always choose to keep you key people home and kill off EVE Vegas as well..
Oh, and where is CSM in all this? it was obvious the previous CSM had already rolled over and conveniently a numbe rof them were re-elected..
Exciting times ahead.. |
Buggs LeRoach
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:11:23 -
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better for everybody it would seem , entry level traders and new players , more choice , more options .. esp older players looking to finish a skill , won't have to take 350k sp penalty .. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:11:53 -
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Good change. Fully supported. It makes it easier to round out a character.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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GOB III
Adversity. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:23:47 -
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Give mini skill injectors a chance to drop whenever you kill a tech 3. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3034
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:24:07 -
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Gedalya 'cuck' Rabbinowitz wrote:Hey, have you considered making eve an enjoyable game to play? Instead of nickel and diming the players with monetization everywhere? Good question. Making good and enjoyable gameplay is hard, however, which makes it a low priority for a lot of game developers. And before you ask for examples how EVE's gameplay is not enjoyable: Supers dropping on small gangs everywhere; tidi fests for citadel fights; the crap that citadels in general are with the far and wide flung incoherent and unpredictable availability of services and that you have to fly around all over the place to get stuff done; the constant release of unrefined features like citadels, predictably OP ships just for the lolz, among other things.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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JonnyPew
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:52:03 -
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GOB III wrote:Give mini skill injectors a chance to drop whenever you kill a tech 3. I like this idea.
EVE Online video content creator
http://www.youtube.com/JonnyPew
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Lian Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:52:54 -
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I liked the " the market now stable" part |
StainGuy
EvE Elite Shitposters Club
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:12:34 -
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I'm quite sorry for the EvE Devs. Someone is ruining all the amazing work you put into making this wonderful game. |
FearlessLittleToaster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
197
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:36:50 -
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GOB III wrote:Give mini skill injectors a chance to drop whenever you kill a tech 3.
Ok, I know it's outside the scope of the team working on this, but this is actually a cool idea. Maybe add a "skill core" or something that can be used to fill a skill injector.
It would make hunting T3s a whole hell of a lot more interesting, and it would give the jaded vets who fly them a great reason to not get killed. I've been playing for eight years, and I give zero ***** about losing a couple days SP when I get killed in a T3. On the other hand, I would HATE HATE HATE to give those SP to the mob of dickheads that killed me. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3033
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:40:52 -
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Quote:changes to PLEX now deployed and the market now stable
lol okay
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
3
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:40:53 -
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FearlessLittleToaster wrote:GOB III wrote:Give mini skill injectors a chance to drop whenever you kill a tech 3. Ok, I know it's outside the scope of the team working on this, but this is actually a cool idea. Maybe add a "skill core" or something that can be used to fill a skill injector. It would make hunting T3s a whole hell of a lot more interesting, and it would give the jaded vets who fly them a great reason to not get killed. I've been playing for eight years, and I give zero ***** about losing a couple days SP when I get killed in a T3. On the other hand, I would HATE HATE HATE to give those SP to the mob of dickheads that killed me.
Best concept in this entire topic indeed. Plus it actually makes sense. Fun stories once again. |
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1365
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:50:50 -
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Buggs LeRoach wrote:better for everybody it would seem , entry level traders and new players , more choice , more options .. esp older players looking to finish a skill , won't have to take 350k sp penalty .. Hmmm, Older players "finishing" a skill - PLEASE with 140 mil SP show me a skill I can "finish" with the 30K SP I'd get from a "mini injector". My current skill is going to 5 has 22 days and 1.5 mil SP to go.
Reality is I'm still getting a 70% penalty on injectors, the 30K I'd get from a mini injector would just about cover the last 12 hours of training time. No real benefit.
I've already extracted the 100 mil SP I could from this character = It is now a pure forum alt in Alpha and will stay that way. I have 10 more characters with SP varying from 120 mil to 180 mil SP, the only decision now is which one to scrap first.
As for Team Size Matters - You published this AFTER the price of Injectors had gone over 700 mil (4 days ago), do you not check the information you are publishing or is publishing false information part of the team ethos.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1365
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:04:16 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Good change. Fully supported. It makes it easier to round out a character.
It actually changes nothing except the cost to use injectors - 100K injectors will cost more per SP therefore making it harder for newer characters to buy them.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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BESTER bm
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
3
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:05:41 -
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It actually explains the price hike of injectors.. as with PLEX when the new PLEX was announced. There is obvious insider trading going on in game
And yes, the comment about the market being stable after the introduction of the new PLEX is just layghable or is a huge tell on what CCP intends to achieve here.. |
Zachri
The Darwin Foundation
3
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:08:28 -
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BESTER bm wrote: It actually explains the price hike of injectors.. as with PLEX when the new PLEX was announced. There is obvious insider trading going on in game
And yes, the comment about the market being stable after the introduction of the new PLEX is just layghable or is a huge tell on what CCP intends to achieve here..
Welcome to the human species. It's a really weird species. As EVE is pretty much a pressure vat, it's no surprise that things happen. |
Sylvia Kildare
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:09:37 -
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GOB III wrote:Give mini skill injectors a chance to drop whenever you kill a tech 3.
That is such an epic, simple, and fitting idea. |
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
366
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:33:36 -
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ok, there is no sense for these things at all.
It will not make it easier for new players to acquire them. And as much as I abhor doing so, I will relate to Star Wars, the online game.....there were several servers where a certain item meant for newer players was placed by idiots at prices on the auction house beyond the pricing capability of those unsubbed accounts to purchase. I mean this was several years ago of course, but i remember those package items could only be used by the people buying them so older peeps could not even get them for new recruits without swiping a credit card.
Same kind of thing is happening here. Now, though i for the most part believe the market should be hands off to CCP and under player control mostly (pricing etc). PLEX how ever and Extractors require REAL money to even get into game....so those and Injectors I am beginning to feel need to start having artificial caps placed on them by the company.
Everyone complains about P2W, well guess what....EvE is quickly going that route so those that do not think an artificial cap should be placed on these items is thinking about how they can P2W over someone that is unable to, or does not care those type of players are taking over our game, or are involved with RMT/Botting.
The monetization needs to halt CCP, and it needs to halt fast before your loyal fan base that is left starts pulling up stakes. |
Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2017.05.19 18:42:12 -
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Is this something we should care about?
I am currently a tad preoccupied auspiciously illuding myself that I'm playing a good game...
I shall not be partaking in this tomfoolery, but hey-ho whatever floats yer boat. May it bring you many monies to keep up your fine works. |
marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
182
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Posted - 2017.05.19 19:33:36 -
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They were a bad idea on day one and this only compounds that.
Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3034
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Posted - 2017.05.19 21:00:09 -
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BESTER bm wrote: It actually explains the price hike of injectors.. as with PLEX when the new PLEX was announced. There is obvious insider trading going on in game
And yes, the comment about the market being stable after the introduction of the new PLEX is just layghable or is a huge tell on what CCP intends to achieve here..
plex price going up clearly has nothing to do with that, which directly increase extractor costs, and sp farmers are clearly in it to lose money so they will sell their sp for the same price even after all their costs go up
selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141
@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
568
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Posted - 2017.05.19 22:31:08 -
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LMAO... im laughing so hard now about some players who were in denial the change would ever come again..
ccp you might as well begin selling SP for cash..
Former EA games dude strikes again..
how bout dis..
100mil SP for 19.99 and a free injector-much t-shirt with a pod skin for free :) |
Enarka Yaken
Homegrown Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 22:38:44 -
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After 12 years of this game...
CCP = Greedy bastards!
**** you CCP! |
Vladimir Stolichnaya
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.05.20 05:03:27 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:[quote]changes to PLEX now deployed and the market now stable
If this quote wasn't so sad it'd be laughable....
Break up PLEX, don't worry folks, the market will adjust.
If by "adjust" CCP meant an additional 15% price increase, over the 20% increase once the changes were leaked. then Ya great job CCP. Quick history lesson folks: And these prices are est for examples. PLEX prices "were" stable at about 1,050,000,000 for months Mini PLEX idea gets released = PLEX prices jump up 20% to 1.250,000,000 Mini plex comes out, prices jump again 15% and are currently close to 1,400,000,000
NOW, CCP is breaking up skill Injectors to 5 mini ones. Current price 710,000,000 or 142,000,000 each new mini injector. Ha. If you really think mini injector prices will not go up in price and be worth more each then a whole injector, Then I have a few PLEX for only 800mil each in Jita. lol
Thanks CCP
PS: You might as well finish the job at this point CCP and release 1 and 2 week "mini" Omega subs. Seeing how much someone in marketing just loves the word "mini" |
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