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Mona Me
One MB Again
10
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Posted - 2017.05.12 02:51:02 -
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Personally, I don't care about the plex change. If your buying plex with RL cash for game time vs the 14.99 per month or yearly-ásubscription, then it's your fault your paying to much. "Bitter old Vets" will remember the Asian sweat shops that used to sell ISK for RL cash so Plex was a necessary evil.
I don't care about the sound screw up. I'm so used to them screwing up the game and using the player base to do their beta testing for them, I'm over it. I only turn on any sounds when I'm camping a WH.
I do care what they did with the probe screen. The only thing I don't like about it is it takes longer now to probe someone down. I don't like that I have to use the probe size scale. When probing down a target, every second counts. The old system where I could use the curser to expand or contract the sphere size was a faster way of doing it. |
Andrian Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.12 07:43:26 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Andrian Dallocort wrote:I don't understand why people are so upset about a fairly small (10%? 20%?) change in the game money cost to receive free game play.
Its a bad idea that CCP ever allowed anyone to play without paying a monthly subscription cost in real money. Everyone playing EVE should be paying the same amount to play, per character or per account. It seems like a spoiled brat reaction to be stomping feet and threatening to take your toys and go home (ie quit playing EVE) because of a small percentage change. Would it be so wrong, bad, or outrageous if CCP just said they were not going to give away free play anymore and everyone had to pay $10 per month to play? That's not a lot of money, especially compared to the play value obtained by serious players.
There should be no cross-mixing of game and real money, in either direction. Players should not be able to pay real money to have in-game advantages nor should CCP pay players to play the game by giving them free play at some level of achievement, measured using game money.
Keep it pure. Mixing real money and game money is a recipe for ruining a game. CCP should step away from the edge and keep the game honest. We players should help them by embracing paying our fair share in monthly fees in real money so they can run the business, but discouraging the practice of pay-for-advantage.
The game costs 15$ a month, not 10$. In the USA, 15$ might not be a lot of money, but not every country has the same income level as the USA. In many eastern European countries for example, people earn 3-4 times less than in people in the USA, so 15$ are like 60$. So when you run multiple accounts, like most EVE players do, the game costs 120$ or more per month. PLEX is a great solution for that problem. Pay-for-advantage is bad, i agree, but i dont see a way to sell game time for ISK without a PLEX (real money) to ISK conversion.
Yeah, the subscription fee varies $10.95 -14.95 per month, depending on how long you commit. And I agree that amount is effectively more in some places than others. Maybe CCP should charge different amounts in different countries. But I don't think they have an obligation to give away free play to anyone and I don't think the answer to some players having less money is to have a system to avoid paying. Mostly I think this is an unhealthy distortion of the game. I guess the only almost good justification is if the game would be damaged significantly if it lost some of these heavy players who can't/won't pay any real money. Online games tend to have to start giving away play a lot as they begin to decline to delay the "player shortage collapse".
Consider that if everyone paid a subscription fee then CCP could lower the fee and achieve the same revenue. I wonder how many players are not paying? Those who do pay subscriptions are paying more to subsidize all the free players.
With regard to people choosing to operate multiple accounts, many characters, multiple simultaneous sessions, etc, these practices should be considered an exploit and not EVE standard practice for advanced players. Any method for a single person to train multiple characters in parallel, to effectively bypass the intended training progression rate, or play with multiple ships simultaneously despite playing solo, are counter to major aspects of the game design. Shouldn't even be allowed so I don't have sympathy for the cost impact of running multiple accounts to circumvent the intended design of the game. Even if CCP allows the practice due to be corrupted by wanting the extra revenue.
Anyway, I'm obviously idealistic about this. :)
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AgentMaster
Platinum Octopus Infernal Octopus
7
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Posted - 2017.05.12 17:16:35 -
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What are these stupid gongs on undock? Bam Bam ?! Whu need that?!?
Blessed is the man who has nothing to say and remain silent yet!!
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
181
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Posted - 2017.05.13 11:45:04 -
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AgentMaster wrote:What are these stupid gongs on undock? Bam Bam ?! Whu need that?!?
Turned off Eve Sounds years ago, not going to play the bing bong game with CCP Devs that have not one clue about how players actually as it stands are forced in the most part to play the game at all, last thing they needed was all the crud currently piled on in the sound department,
Don't care about plex, never spent a single Arrum while they were about, will never use CQ or the Nex store and only ever used the wretched log in facility when I was forced to do so, I pay cash for the game and object strongly to CCP trying to sell me crud I would never even consider buying.
What I do care about is being able to play the game simply and easily, Probe screen is a PITA, simple as that, badly designed over engineered and simply useless from what most players want to use it for, the the guy that thought it up needs to consider a different career, maybe Cartoon artist...That CCP forced this abomination on the players with no options only goes to highlight how little they actually listen to them at all, My guess is that 3D map will be there next gift,,,Odd when you actually think about it though, a 3D map in a 2D game.
Have we all not seen this before though, Box ticking Dev's rushing unfinished features into the game because the timetable says they should, not only if they actually work correctly, but no matter, they continue to load up the game with badly written code or because some detached focus group agrees it's a good idea all reducing player satisfaction in pursuit of some as yet to be revealed goal.
CCP may not care about player game satisfaction but the players certainly do, the list of vacant names long moved on due to CCP's attitude towards the paying customer should have been a lesson to be learned in regards what not to do, seems it fell on deaf ears.
Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
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nurasd
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.13 18:25:13 -
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Please bring back the account's remaining Omega time back ingame to the character sheet in the pilot's services tab. You used to show it and are showing additional training queue times, no reason not to show this. |
ugh zug
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:12:47 -
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the new blood raider content and future pirate factions.... bpc's dropped are bound to be stripped away from the linemen and given to the leadership of whoever runs them ultimately resulting in much effort with little reward for the majority of players running these complexes. At least give decent lp and bounty payout for the groups completing the objective, or a bid system for the pilots in the winning fleet to bid/roll on the rewards to be redeemed on the account. rewarding the players participating is something incursions at least did well. the advanced AI is cool and everything but if the said npcs are going to be causing tidi then is it really worth it? consider how many factions are going to get this system in the future... can your servers handle it?
tldr new blood raider system needs more iteration and should support everyone that completes the content. npc ai thinking complexity should be reduced.
plex changes, if i can't use it remotely much like i do with extractors/injectors/old plex then it's a pita and should burn in a fire. the fact that you are pushing so hard for micro transactions in a subscription game is somewhat infuriating but i can see why a company would milk it's customers for all their worth.
suns/skins, more filler content.
Want me to shut up?
Remove content from my post,1B.
Remove my content from a thread I have started 2B.
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Espejo Roto
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 10:04:43 -
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I don't intend to just add to the _very predictable feedback_ on what CCP are doing, but -
Having the perspective of having played/paid this game for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where they will look at what we do and less of what we say.
Walls of text get skipped, and arguing will just entrench golden geese into their current position on the matter.
Simultaneously granularizing and revaluating PLEX only serves one long term agenda. The immediate effect is to desensitize.
Either jump out of the pot until the water cools down, or get used to the smell of boiling frog. |
Paula Myok
Prime Forces The Methodical Alliance
12
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Posted - 2017.05.14 11:00:12 -
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RankOutsider wrote:What happened to donating game time to other characters? I used to use a jita Alt to buy old-time PLEX and then donate that to alts on my other accounts, I don't see how to do that am I missing something?
Yes this ^^^^^
Give me back the advanced sound controls !!!! Now !!!! Not everyone in EVE is as dumb as you think !!!
Your programmers should not take the easy way out. Do your work and give us even MORE sound control not less !!! |
Nantis
Caldari Scientific Research
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 16:02:39 -
[219] - Quote
nurasd wrote:Please bring back the account's remaining Omega time back ingame to the character sheet in the pilot's services tab.
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Ninaa Ohmiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.14 21:56:12 -
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The new scanning window has some strange/unusual "UI language" when adding/using extra probe formations.
For the longest time, I assumed that the pop-up text on the third icon/button at the bottom was a helpful hint popup. It looks similar enough to the ones next to it, "Launch Pinpoint Formation" and "Launch Spread Formation", so I assumed that "+ Save Current Formation" was a tooltip as well, and wondered why nothing happened when I clicked the icon button.
INSTEAD, it turns out that that third popup is not a helpful hint, but an action menu. Styled to look like a hint.
Would it be an idea to make the function and format more clear? Perhaps add a triangle next to it to indicate it's more than an action button. The UI right now had me trying to figure it out for a couple of days (and it's one of those things that once you've discovered it, it's pretty clear ... but it's very unclear how to initially discover it) |
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2017.05.16 12:36:57 -
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I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33530
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Posted - 2017.05.16 12:52:04 -
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Chan'aar wrote:I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing. Maybe this is what CCP considers fixed?
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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
114
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Posted - 2017.05.16 18:51:47 -
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Plex should be an item in inventory, not some "vault" that shows up in every inventory window as it would be something more important than drones or ship equipment. Are we shooting "plex ammo" or spend it to warp faster or something? (heavy sarcasm, those are not ideas!).
I understand some players could be confused about perma-loss and dying with plex in cargo, but the game features include "estimated cargo value", "DPS" and "effective hitpoints" so people with IQ above 70 that can divide and add 2+2 presumably came to the conclusion that undocking with 10 billion estimated cargo and 3.000 EHP is a bad idea. As for the rest, they won't be able to put plex in the vault anyway, that requires at least 3 brain cells to do. You guys try to dumb down the game so even amebas can play it?
I dig the rest of the update, including merging plex with AUR and the structure billboards (troll potential). |
Sadira Higgs
Crab
0
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:37:47 -
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Chan'aar wrote:I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.
This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing.
This is such a dumb change i cant even comprehend the logic behind it.... |
Andrian Dallocort
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.16 21:46:43 -
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I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1362
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Posted - 2017.05.16 23:15:05 -
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Andrian Dallocort wrote:I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums.
Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong.
I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever.
Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Deus Reliquit
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2017.05.17 01:27:39 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Andrian Dallocort wrote:I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.
CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.
There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums. Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong. I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever. Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..
I have a feeling there must be some kind of Icelandic holiday? Been quite since last week. Really wish they would stop saying "Successfully Launched" after every update and just say "Launched like a turd sandwich" ! |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
315
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Posted - 2017.05.17 06:57:43 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6926596#post6926596
Relinking from 119.3 thread.
EBR was closed again, asking for info and no time to respond.
I'm still having my overview pushed down from the upper right corner on every new login in a citadel and the fact the tickets keep getting closed is getting to be a bit much.
I've reset the window position of the character impacted in game, still happening.
Thankfully I've been able to get some info the dev team, but if I hadn't I'd have to leave another EBR with the bug hunters to close yet again.
I gave you video, still images as proof of the issue along with the relevant log info.
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2177
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Posted - 2017.05.17 13:04:47 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting.. Well... Maybe on FanFest communication is Ok? You know: the only group of "players"(*) CCP cares enough?
Note: writing "players" this way i indicate that i personally have suspicion that most of those attendees are not even EvE players anymore. They were at some point but left the game long ago and only attend FanFest to meet friends. I could be wrong for sure.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33580
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Posted - 2017.05.17 14:29:35 -
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I would say you have to be there to get the feels of it. Now when they are not around to sell you their version of reality, the live game bites back and you feel empty inside. Like a deflated love doll abandoned in a trash can.
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Rin Aiko
CVT IND
0
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Posted - 2017.05.17 23:15:40 -
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So how do I activate plex now? Its in my vault but no option. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
33608
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Posted - 2017.05.18 09:14:16 -
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If you dropped the PLEX into the Vault, then you can visit New Eden Store and buy those fancy clothes or SKINs or Omega time.
Items will get into your redeem system and the Omega clone activation will add 30 days of Omega clone on account. Omega time left on your account will be only visible in your account management site on web unfortunately. They removed the Omega timers from game as for now.
How CCP is programming things.
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Lara Agnon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:08:57 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:They removed the Omega timers from game as for now. And I refused to add Omega time as for now. At least until I can see what I have purchased ingame.
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Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2017.05.23 10:41:00 -
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Patch Notes for today are out....
- And there are NO fixes for all the PLEX issues?
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Janeway84
Insane's Asylum Evil Monkies Incorporated
185
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Posted - 2017.05.30 08:11:56 -
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Besides the t3 c changes Will you guys release some devblogs on what modules and stuff you will be balancing , releasing this summer that you mentioned at fanfest? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2054
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Posted - 2017.05.31 18:13:58 -
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So, i gifted 1000 plex each to two alt accounts.
Their sub was about to expire along with the extra training queue.
There is no plex in these accounts vaults.
The only way i can seem to see the account status of these accounts is the account management page.
30 days has been added to each account (so the system assumed these gifted plex was for game time). But the other 500 plex per account seems unaccounted for. Where did they go? |
Dominous Nolen
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
320
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:45:36 -
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Why am I now forced to buy stuff through the Steam store if i'm launching the game from there to track time in game spent on my steam profile rather then be able to buy stuff directly from your store? It's another point of potential transaction delay.
@dominousnolen
"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
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Mollie Mormon
Interstellar Consciousness
31
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Posted - 2017.06.01 19:28:38 -
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Andrian Dallocort wrote:Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback. That about sums it up.
+1
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
3049
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Posted - 2017.06.03 19:14:57 -
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Patch Notes wrote:To improve the performance of the war history tab of alliance/corporation show info windows when more than 100 finished wars exist, they will be divided into years and loaded separately when expanded. I just noticed this and it's amazing. No worries any longer that opening the Wars tab of Marmite or VMG kills your client.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Haseo Antares
Production N Destruction INC.
81
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Posted - 2017.06.04 13:07:12 -
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I started playing EVE every day back in 2010. Back then there were about 50,000 people logged into EVE at any given time. I started playing primary because I love space games. I have been playing on and off for nearly 7 years now. With the exception of the Incursion fiasco and $1000 space pants, I always enjoyed playing EVE. Late last year, before I took a break from online gaming - EVE was my go to game.
Fast forward to the present. A couple days ago, I logged in for the first time in about 9 months and did enjoy the experience. My first gripe is that Aura's voice was replaced with...whatever is there now. Aura's voice was soothing and gave the game a futuristic feel. This new person sounds extremely mechanical and as if she was reading from a script. At first this seemed minor but, after a short while it became grating. The simple act of warping is much less enjoyable then it was 9 months ago.
After a bit of research, I discovered that this unfortunate change was permanent. It would appear that the Devs are not keen on reverting this change. Perhaps for whatever reason the old voice actor is no longer available and for continuity purposes the Devs decided to do a complete overhaul. Or perhaps they Devs think this new voice is a good replacement. In either event one thing is clear - feedback on this change is being ignored.
This one seemingly minor change shouldn't have a major impact on the game - but it does. Why? This is just my opinion, but I believe that there are two primary reasons: (1) It negatively impacts player experience; (2) More importantly, it shows that the Devs are ignoring player feedback. When the Incursion fiasco occurred, players were passionate enough to stage protests (i.e. burn Jita). It is clear that that passion is not nearly as strong as it once was. Rather then protesting - people are simply leaving.
I understand that CCP has to modernize its product, however, it should not do so at the expense of game experience. Players like myself may come off as whiny or entitled when we "complain" about a course of action CCP takes but there is a reason for it. The reason is we care about the game and want it to succeed. The new voice is a small change which has a big impact - at least for me.
I have 3 accounts which I used to sub nearly every month for 6 years or so. CCP will not get anymore of my money if they continue to degrade the experience. On a positive note, I must say I like my alpha clones.
We currently have the world's greatest linguists and scientists trying to decode whatn++ you just said.
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