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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.05.10 20:42:00 -
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So was wondering about a really nice thorax setup, i really want to use medium blasters has i just got T2 versions and wanted to know a nice solo or support thorax setup was. Thanks!
Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
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Mogrin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.10 20:48:00 -
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fit it to throw away imo 5x neutrons, mwd, 20k scrambler, 5k scrambler, 3x mag stabs, medium repper, and whatever size plate will fit.
Its a meanie. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |
AegriSomnia
Caldari Aegis Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: AegriSomnia on 10/05/2007 21:10:27 Edited by: AegriSomnia on 10/05/2007 21:09:08
Originally by: Mogrin fit it to throw away imo 5x neutrons, mwd, 20k scrambler, 5k scrambler, 3x mag stabs, medium repper, and whatever size plate will fit.
Its a meanie.
Thats a great one, but why 2 scrams?
This is what I use
5 light ion blasters
MWD 20k scram Cap Injector w/800's
3 passive hardeners 1 Med. Repper 800 mm plate
5 Hammerhead II
I know you wanted Med. blasters, but I had a hard time fitting them with a MWD, a med. repper and A MINIMUM 800mm plate. If you want to go lighter on the plate, thats fine, but you should think about your role in the gang before you do.
If you are going to tank, you really need 800mm Rolled Tungsten AT LEAST. With a MWD and a Med. Repper, this means small balsters. But dont worry, small blasters with T2 drones is DPS enough for small gang warfare.
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Mogrin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:18:00 -
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Actually wtf did i just say, scratch the plate on that and fit a damage control, I edited it. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |
Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:20:00 -
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Because the thorax is limited to 3 midslots there are really 2 main ways to set it up. You've got:
5x Light Neutron Blasters MWD, Cap Booster, Disruptor Small rep, 3x hard, 1600mm plate
Or
5x Heavy Blasters (Whatever fits) MWD, web, Scram Medium Rep, 3 hardeners (passive/active), magstab
The 2nd once can't tank much, and it also stops firing if anybody lays a nos on it. Those Minmatar Ruptures sure look nice!
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Krulla
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:33:00 -
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2x Heavy Neutron II 3x Heavy Ion II
MWD 20km disruptor x5 web
3x MFS Damage control II Inertia Stab II
5x Vespa EC-600
This setup is made of pwnage and win. ------------------------- Sigs are for noobs. |
DiuxDium
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla 2x Heavy Neutron II 3x Heavy Ion II
MWD 20km disruptor x5 web
3x MFS Damage control II Inertia Stab II
5x Vespa EC-600
This setup is made of pwnage and win.
This is no doubt the best setup so far. Also one of my favs. Those Vespa's are your tank. And they do a damn fine job. Especially if you get a pair of rax's fit the same, you've got a good chance of jamming BS's while ripping them apart with your guns. -------------
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 10/05/2007 21:45:48 classic: 5x electron II mwd, web and warp disruptor medium armor rep II, eanm, dc, magstab and a 800mm plate
5 ecm drones, valkyries or hammerheads.
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AegriSomnia
Caldari Aegis Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla 2x Heavy Neutron II 3x Heavy Ion II
MWD 20km disruptor x5 web
3x MFS Damage control II Inertia Stab II
5x Vespa EC-600
This setup is made of pwnage and win.
WOW this is cool. I just wanted to make sure HEAVY blasters and not Med. blasters?
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The Monkeysphere
The Shaw ASGARDIAN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: AegriSomnia WOW this is cool. I just wanted to make sure HEAVY blasters and not Med. blasters?
Heavy = medium Mega = large Light = small.
That's blaster sizes for you in a nutshell.
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St'oto
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: The Monkeysphere
Originally by: AegriSomnia WOW this is cool. I just wanted to make sure HEAVY blasters and not Med. blasters?
Heavy = medium Mega = large Light = small.
That's blaster sizes for you in a nutshell.
QFT damn i missed your post by about 10 seconds damnit!
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Azuse
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:07:00 -
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Golden rule for sniping - use tracking comps
Golden rule for blasting - use a web
Anyone who tires to tell you otherwise is a fool, if you want to use a cap injector on a cruiser use a vexor, it has a far superiour tank, it has a cargo hold larger than most BC and quite happily carrys 15 boosters.
With a rax you either gank (neutrons and stabs, which wont fyi, kill a good vexor ) or take some lessons from the demios and ballance tank and rely on skils for dammage.
4 electrons (or ions depending on rigs), med nos (again dependant) MWD, web, disruptor MAR, dcu, 2 EAMN II, 400mm 5 valk IIs
N.B ions and nos are a trade off, if you fit electrons you can just get a tii nos in, if you want to fit ions you need a t I nos and a pg rig
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AegriSomnia
Caldari Aegis Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: The Monkeysphere
Originally by: AegriSomnia WOW this is cool. I just wanted to make sure HEAVY blasters and not Med. blasters?
Heavy = medium Mega = large Light = small.
That's blaster sizes for you in a nutshell.
THANK YOU!!!
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Mogrin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:02:00 -
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I vote for Krulla's, I totally forgot about armor rep drones. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |
Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Castillo on 10/05/2007 23:52:26 For solo work, I'd say got with a 1600mm Platarax, or an 800mm Heavy Electron setup. For gangs, well, a full gank setup would probably work better.
1600mm plate: 5x Light Neutron Blaster II
MWD, Web, Scram (Can try to swap the web for a cap booster, but I've personally never tried it)
Medium Rep II, 3x Armor hardener and the 1600mm Plate of course.
800mm Heavy Electron: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II MwD, web, scram Medium Rep II, Damage Control, EANM, 800mm Plate, and either an explosive hardener or second EANM here, or a magstab.
A few gank setups already got posted :D
EDIT: I should note that I used the Heavy Electron setup for a lot of solo piracy work. Served me well. just choose your targets :P
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Valandril
Caldari Reiketsu. Hitchhiker's Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:50:00 -
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What bout good old platerax ? 4xlight blasters, med nos mwd, web scram namer mar, 2xeanm, dmg control, 1600mm plate.
U can tank sentyrs long enought to pop medium tanked industrials :P ---
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Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.05.11 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Azuse Golden rule for sniping - use tracking comps
Golden rule for blasting - use a web
Anyone who tires to tell you otherwise is a fool, if you want to use a cap injector on a cruiser use a vexor, it has a far superiour tank, it has a cargo hold larger than most BC and quite happily carrys 15 boosters.
I have done fine without a web on a Thorax. Just don't get webbed yourself and use light blasters so transversal ain't too bad. Just pulse the MWD to stay in range, with the MWD bonus this isn't too hard to do when injected.
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DiuxDium
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin I vote for Krulla's, I totally forgot about armor rep drones.
1) Those arn't armor rep drones 2) You can't use armor rep drones on your self.
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Marcus Alkhaar
Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly
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Posted - 2007.05.11 07:25:00 -
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Another I-win setup..
5x Heavy Electron Blaster II
1x 10mn mwd II 1x web 1x 20km scram
1x 1600mm rolled tungsten 1x rcu II 1x EANM II 1x DC II 1x small rep
havent lost a single match with this setup yet... I even took down a T2 fitted Vigilant in it.
------------------ Might Aswell Train Another Race Idiot
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Nixeh
Gallente Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin Edited by: Mogrin on 10/05/2007 21:14:04 fit it to throw away imo 5x neutrons, mwd, 20k scrambler, 5k scrambler, 3x mag stabs, medium repper, and damage control.
Its a meanie.
if you are talking about medium neutrons that will never fit 5 neutrons mwd and med rep :S wtf.
i would go with electrons med rep dmg control dmg mods 5 valks II's.
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Segmentor
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:41:00 -
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This:
Originally by: Krulla 2x Heavy Neutron II 3x Heavy Ion II
MWD 20km disruptor x5 web
3x MFS Damage control II Inertia Stab II
5x Vespa EC-600
This:
Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar
5x Heavy Electron Blaster II
1x 10mn mwd II 1x web 1x 20km scram
1x 1600mm rolled tungsten 1x rcu II
And this:
5x Electron II
1x MWD 1x Web 1x 20k
1x MAR II 1x DCU 1x 800mm RT 2x MFS II
5x Valk IIs
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Ishtar1
Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.05.11 11:30:00 -
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3xION 2xElectron (can fit 4/1 with AWU 5)
Mwd Web Scram
Small T2 rep kin hardener therm hardener EANM 800 RT plate
5xValk II
yes it has a large exp hole but meh it works killed a BS solo in this and lots of BC awsome for solo pirating just dont stick around if there's a few in local
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Azuse
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: Azuse Golden rule for sniping - use tracking comps
Golden rule for blasting - use a web
Anyone who tires to tell you otherwise is a fool, if you want to use a cap injector on a cruiser use a vexor, it has a far superiour tank, it has a cargo hold larger than most BC and quite happily carrys 15 boosters.
I have done fine without a web on a Thorax. Just don't get webbed yourself and use light blasters so transversal ain't too bad. Just pulse the MWD to stay in range, with the MWD bonus this isn't too hard to do when injected.
How do you hit with light balsters while avoiding being webbed, plz enlighten us all, how do you make your 1600m optimal balsters hit past 10km, or do you just fly in hoping the mark has no web (very smart when your solo)?
The only close range turrets which do not need a web are pulse lasers, nottice that they have superior range to blasters and that their tracking is 6 times faster to compensate.
Coincidently, i ran into a rax with light balsters and injector supported by a celectis a few weeks ago Rax Celectis
Know also, combining ions and neutrons just to "use all my grid" mixes your optimals and tracking, there are far better uses of resources.
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Mephistophilis
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.11 13:22:00 -
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I use: 2 med NOS, 3 heavy electrons mwd, web, scram Med rep II, and mix of passive and non passive tank 5 t2 exp drones
Still a cheap setup! I don't use them as much as i used to tbh. So many people use the new BC's (who can blame them) and the once uber Thorax has a tough time getting through them.
Used to love the 8 heavy drones launched from the rax them were the days
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:09:00 -
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Quote: How do you hit with light balsters while avoiding being webbed, plz enlighten us all, how do you make your 1600m optimal balsters hit past 10km, or do you just fly in hoping the mark has no web (very smart when your solo)?
The only close range turrets which do not need a web are pulse lasers, nottice that they have superior range to blasters and that their tracking is 6 times faster to compensate.
Coincidently, i ran into a rax with light balsters and injector supported by a celectis a few weeks ago Rax Celectis
Know also, combining ions and neutrons just to "use all my grid" mixes your optimals and tracking, there are far better uses of resources.
Actually, blasters have 1/3 better tracking over pulse lasers.
I fit a cab booster in place of a web myself. With the abundance of NOS its almost mandatory, especially when your guns can kill your cap by themselves.
Perfect example just happened this morning. Me and a friend in a Caracal took on an Eos. I kited the the Eos and tanked what DPS he did untill anouther friend showed in a Cane to help. Then, when the Eos called in a Nyx, I still had cap to MWD out of faction scram range and warp out. There is no way I could have had the cap for a MWD, Med rep, and 20k without a booster.
Seems like the majority of fights I've been in with my rax the last few months would have ended with me dead if I'd not had the cap booster.
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Multimedia Carl
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Posted - 2007.05.12 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla 2x Heavy Neutron II 3x Heavy Ion II
MWD 20km disruptor x5 web
3x MFS Damage control II Inertia Stab II
5x Vespa EC-600
This setup is made of pwnage and win.
Do you really need the Inertia Stab ?, is there not room to fit a SAR II ? or just a named ?
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Sexorella hotz
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.12 19:38:00 -
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Just my two cents, I've 1v1'd a t2 heavy blaster thorax in a platerax and won very handily(80% armor and I wasn't repping). The hitpoint buffer that 1600mm plate gives imo is far better than the extra damage of the heavy blasters. Not posting a setup, plenty of platerax's posted above.
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Ronin Reborn
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.12 19:50:00 -
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Gank
5x Heavy Nuetrons w/void
1x 10mn Mwd 1x Web 1x 20k Scram
1x Small Rep 3x Mag Stab II 1x RCU II
5x Valks/Hammers or Ecm-600
Tank
5x Heavy Electron
1x 10mn mwd 1x 20k 1x web
1x Small rep 2x Eanm II 1x 1600mm Tungstun 1x RCU II
5x Valks/Hammers
Btw, that setup with the Nuetrons and Med rep someone posted wont wit without a rig.
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Pjongjang
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Posted - 2007.05.13 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Pjongjang on 13/05/2007 11:19:07
Originally by: Sexorella hotz Just my two cents, I've 1v1'd a t2 heavy blaster thorax in a platerax and won very handily(80% armor and I wasn't repping). The hitpoint buffer that 1600mm plate gives imo is far better than the extra damage of the heavy blasters. Not posting a setup, plenty of platerax's posted above.
If you won with 80% Armor, you weren't even using your 1600mm
(I do not disagree with your general assessment. Just in that case, you probably won because of higher skills rather than the fitting)
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