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STALKER187
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Posted - 2007.05.08 13:54:00 -
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Have been playing eve for about two weeks, and have a ratio of about 80% mining and 20% pve. Which means my economy is growing steady but im very eager for pvp (after all thats the main reason i started with eve). At the moment im rolling a rocket fitted kestrel for pve, but it seems like i will be way too week for solo pvp with it.
Are planning to jump in to 0.0 space since i dont want to lose sec status (yet  )
Any ideas?
Ps, have a few mil to spend, but could wait some weeks and save some more if someone have a realy good idea :)
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galactic Stalker
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Posted - 2007.05.08 13:57:00 -
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Sorry, realized i should have put this topic in "Ships and Modules"
Obviously.. 
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stormer on 08/05/2007 14:11:32
rocket fitted kessie can be OK, just expect to lose a lot...
One problem with caladri ships for solo is that lack of tank/tackle. I moved to minmatar when I started solo pirating for the rifter, it allows the tank gear as well as some mid slot warp disruptors and webber and speed boost.
In the kessie your only tank will be SPEED SPEED SPEED at all costs. With improved fitting skills you can manage to get a set of standard launchers on the kessie, which I used for a while. allows you to fire outside of web range, and inside warp disruptor range, while orbiting at a fast afterburner pace.
Well thats what I did :)
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: STALKER187
Have been playing eve for about two weeks, and have a ratio of about 80% mining and 20% pve. Which means my economy is growing steady but im very eager for pvp (after all thats the main reason i started with eve). At the moment im rolling a rocket fitted kestrel for pve, but it seems like i will be way too week for solo pvp with it.
Are planning to jump in to 0.0 space since i dont want to lose sec status (yet )
Any ideas?
Ps, have a few mil to spend, but could wait some weeks and save some more if someone have a realy good idea :)
Cheers in advance!
When i first started i really loved the rax/vexor.
Kessies are good starting frigs rockets and all.
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TheJacko
Gallente
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: jimmyjam
Originally by: STALKER187
Have been playing eve for about two weeks, and have a ratio of about 80% mining and 20% pve. Which means my economy is growing steady but im very eager for pvp (after all thats the main reason i started with eve). At the moment im rolling a rocket fitted kestrel for pve, but it seems like i will be way too week for solo pvp with it.
Are planning to jump in to 0.0 space since i dont want to lose sec status (yet )
Any ideas?
Ps, have a few mil to spend, but could wait some weeks and save some more if someone have a realy good idea :)
Cheers in advance!
When i first started i really loved the rax/vexor.
Kessies are good starting frigs rockets and all.
dont forget tristan 
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Cherab
Minmatar
Swedish Academy
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Posted - 2007.05.08 16:20:00 -
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Well later on the crow (t2 frig) is quite good for some inty vs. inty pvp soloing.
btw go whoa!
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Regarding nerfs & boosts:
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Corwain
Gallente
Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.05.08 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 08/05/2007 19:19:49
Right now Gallente/Minmatar are *arguably the best PvP races. Minmatar are great cause the uber nos will not stop their damage. I fly Gallente on both my chars, but I now wish that I had made my alt fly Minmatar.
Rifter->Rupture->Hurricane/Tempest
A Vagabond is on that skill path as well.
DO IIIIIIT!
Alternatively:
Incursis/Enyo->Thorax->Brutix(Underrated, can lay on the pain)->Megathron
With Astarte on the skill path (Deimos is crap...I digress)
Or if you're into drones:
Ishkur/Vexor->Myrmidon->Dominix
Ishtar is on the path as well but really isn't worth the price over the Myrm that can fit more nos-power, is more mobile being able to fit a MWD, Injector, Dual Rep tank AND nos while using 5x T2 heavy drones like a Ishtar.
Amarr/Caldari aren't that great right now but they both have ships that shine. I have had great success flying an Arbitrator, and Curse/Pilgrim are great fun as well.
Your gang will love to have an uber tanked drake along that they can use as bait. Train your DPS skills a lot too as you won't have much to begin with...
And there are so many crappy Caldari pilot that when you actually have a good setup in a Caldari ship you'll surprise the crap out of others. My friend took out a non-nos non-nano typhoon with a speed/ecm tanked Caracal. Killed the drones, speed-tanked the cruise/turrets. Slowly killed it.
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Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:51:00 -
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Seems you went caldari. Caldari aren't best for solo PVP because they tend to favor long range/EW instead of up close within warp scramble range.
Click above for my killboard stats. |
Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.09 05:58:00 -
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i love my arbitrator. kinda skill intensive (need all the basics to level 5 imho); and "good" drone skills (up to 1.2 mill drones, need more  ); however, once you get good skills to pilot it, it can be a very good ship to solo in.
My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:) |
Mitchell Green
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Posted - 2007.05.09 10:37:00 -
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Ok, so obviously for solo pvp. Your gonna need a close range ship to dish out some dps and take em out be4 there mates can help. Good ship to use which is easy to fit and use.
Thorax
Highs - 5 Heavy Ion Blasters
Meds - 10mn mwd, disruptor, web
Lows - med rep, damage control , exp hardner, 2 mag field stabs
Drones and ammo - 5 Valkyries - antimatter M.
For Amarr solo pvp, Arbitrator is mint, you have the drone skills to fit some mean drones
Arbitrator
Highs - 2 med nos 1 launcher 1 drone link aug
Meds - 10mn mwd web scram and tracking disruptor (bonys from ship)
Lows - med rep damage control exp hardner Energized adaptive nano.
Drones - 5 Valks
Minmatar solo pvp,Obviously stabber, seeing how most of the other miny cruisers are pretty patheticly underpowered. Stabber is gonna be all speed at 15km range. Dont bother trying to tank with minmatar cruisers.
Stabber
Highs - 4 220mm vulcan autocannons 2 standard launchers.
Meds - 10mn mwd, scram, web
Lows - Tracking Enhancer, 2 Gyrostabilisers
Caldari solo pvp, Good one to go with is your basic Caracal, Can fit a good tank and dishes out some ok damage with its heavies
Caracal
Highs - 4 Heavy missile launchers
Meds - 'anointed' em ward, ballistic deflection field 2 invuln fields med shield booster.
Lows - Power diagnostic system, Ballistic Control System
I hope these basic cruiser setups help somehow. Its what i use. I seem to get other cruiser kills np with em. Contact me ingame if u need more help. |
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.05.09 11:44:00 -
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Erm wtf ? None of those setups are any good for a newbie pirate. Plus they're all paper thin and will pop in seconds , soloing with an unplated rax without endgame skills and experience is foolish. Caracal with a "good tank" ?! 1 small nos can break it...
For solo piracy , just fly a rifter. Missile skills should give extra damage to the rocket launcher , it always helps.
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.05.09 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Erm wtf ? None of those setups are any good for a newbie pirate. Plus they're all paper thin and will pop in seconds , soloing with an unplated rax without endgame skills and experience is foolish. Caracal with a "good tank" ?! 1 small nos can break it...
For solo piracy , just fly a rifter. Missile skills should give extra damage to the rocket launcher , it always helps.
Best advice thus far
And by the way, I rule you.
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STALKER187
Caldari
GOLDEN BOYZ
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:21:00 -
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Thanks for all the answers, will calculate it abit and make a move :>
Nice to for once see a mature and helpful mmo community. If this where wow, galaxies, etc half of the post would have been flame and the other half crap hehe.
Cheers!
The rifter idea sounds fun and cheap (saw your movie deathforge), but what big diference is it between the rifter and my kestrel? I mean 4 rocket launchers do some serious dmg with my caldari missile bonus aswell, and its pretty fast too.
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Kermis
Caldari
Cryo Crypt inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:46:00 -
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Actually, kessy isn't all that bad as people make it sound like.
It's somewhat less unpredictable, and a bit slower than a rifter, but still isn't that bad.
With 4 rockets, it can dish out quite alot of damage, and there's still a few decent setups possible. Since it's quite heavy and slow to begin with, I wouldn't bother to speed it up with an afterburner or MWD. Instead but on a bigger tank.
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Cephias Caine
Steel Battalion
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Posted - 2007.05.10 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kermis
Actually, kessy isn't all that bad as people make it sound like.
It's somewhat less unpredictable, and a bit slower than a rifter, but still isn't that bad.
With 4 rockets, it can dish out quite alot of damage, and there's still a few decent setups possible. Since it's quite heavy and slow to begin with, I wouldn't bother to speed it up with an afterburner or MWD. Instead but on a bigger tank.
Tank? Kestrel? ermmmm.... I wouldn't listen to gomer here..... you can't tank a Kestrel. Period. Speed is definitely your friend, and if you want to pvp with any chance of success then you will need scrambler and a web, and if you throw in a MWD, then you have no more mids. So where do you put the tank? seriously slap in rockets, classic pvp mids(as above), and inertial stab, and a bcu(for added range damage) or nano fiber(for reduced momentum = greater manouverability = tighter orbit & higher transversal) PLEASE DO NOT TRY AND TANK A KESTREL... please...
Kind Regards
CC
Commissar Captain R4
IF YOU NEVER TEST YOUR FAITH HOW CAN YOU BE SURE IT IS THERE? STICK YOUR HAND INTO THE FIRE EVERY NOW AND THEN TO REMIND YOURSELF.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.05.10 15:06:00 -
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When im looking for cheap thrills its all about the rifter.
If your interested send me an eve-mail. I have a fairly large database of low SP frigate setups =)
Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
No kreul you nerfed me!
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Oupla
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Posted - 2007.05.10 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Oupla on 10/05/2007 15:29:11
Your rocket Kestrel will be perfect to get your first kills.
Stay in high secure, find a miner in belt and go swapping his can. He will engage fight against you.
Try to target retriever only at first, covetor/cruisers are longer to kill and you may have bad surprise with T2 drones. 
Ps: I agree with Cephias Caine. Don't tank, increase your DPS and kill your target as fast as you can.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.10 16:08:00 -
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tanking a kestrel would be about as much use as powdered water tbh.
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Plaetean
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.10 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Plaetean on 10/05/2007 16:57:08
I spent my first few months pirating in a rax. Awesome ship...
although if you're going solo 0.0 a rifter would probably be best.
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captain kikaz
Pitch Black Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.10 17:41:00 -
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the kessy is a great little ship but i would again have to agree that the rifter is the king of the t1 frigs if you decide to go the minmater route stabbers are also great for hooning around in.
once you get afew more skills i would go for eitherthe thorax or the stabber.
depends what skill route you want to go down
my advice start a new character
spec him in either minmater or gallente transfer cash go yarring.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:44:00 -
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my .2 isk.... kestrel with standard missiles are one of my favs for tiny gangs, i've had noo luck with the rocket kessy, though others have obviously, one thing that'll be a huge help to you, go to your overview settings click on the middle tab in settings, then set it so you can see your transversal velocity, it's a must in frigates.
I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones. |
Valeria Malis
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:22:00 -
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Hello all! First of all, i'm loving this game (still learning and enjoying my last trial days till i change to full account)
This piracy path is very interesting. I've been reading some guides to have at least a little of "know how" on the subject. I got atm a Kestrel and a Merlin but so far i don't have yet any "pirate skills". I want to do some missions, earn some cash and so before adventuring to 0.4 with full pirate skills.
Anyway, some ppl say that Minmatar's Rifter is the king of Frigates for this purpose and this makes me a little sad cos i was really enjoying my Kestrel. So i want some opinion on this matter. Should i start a Minmatar toon? If so, How do i transfer my money and items to him?
Or should i stick with the Kestrel? If so, is there a basic or optimal setup for it?
Thanks all in advance.
Val
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Skybar
Minmatar
Zephyr Manufacturing Group
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Valeria Malis
Hello all! First of all, i'm loving this game (still learning and enjoying my last trial days till i change to full account)
This piracy path is very interesting. I've been reading some guides to have at least a little of "know how" on the subject. I got atm a Kestrel and a Merlin but so far i don't have yet any "pirate skills". I want to do some missions, earn some cash and so before adventuring to 0.4 with full pirate skills.
Anyway, some ppl say that Minmatar's Rifter is the king of Frigates for this purpose and this makes me a little sad cos i was really enjoying my Kestrel. So i want some opinion on this matter. Should i start a Minmatar toon? If so, How do i transfer my money and items to him?
Or should i stick with the Kestrel? If so, is there a basic or optimal setup for it?
Thanks all in advance.
Val
If you're enjoying the Kestrel, then stick to it. Personally, I prefer the rifter, but that's mainly because I don't like missile launchers very much.
If you later might want to get into rifters, it's easy to start training the projectile and gunnery skills. If you go for Caldari and with launchers, you will have benefit of those skills as minmatar ships most often have one or two launcher slots, so it's not wasted.
Also remember, no Ship is "the best", it's up to the pilot who fly it. And the best way to fly, is to fly fun - remember that.
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Militis Kolosok
Caldari
Praetorian BlackGuard
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 10/05/2007 23:30:19
Kestrel is slow as hell... I constantly duel with a 2-months old character flying a Tristan and sometimes get my butt handed to me. B the time I get in range (8km) to fire my rockets I'm already in armor. Maybe my setup is crap, but I gave up on the ship.
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Nuagni
Aranas de Guerra
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.11 13:18:00 -
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Your ship is only part of the equation. You can pirate with any ship that has weapons loaded. You don't attack anything you come across. The trick is becoming good at looking at what you are flying and analyzing whether you can take what you scan down. What the previous posters are really giving you are ships that have the widest options in what they can take on. The Griffin is a perfect example. Is it a great all around pvp ship...no. Can you pop a Rifter in one...you bet. However, the Rifter is still a better all around pvp ship.
As for the comment about going to 0.0. You are not likely to find many targets you can take at your sp level.
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