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Mogrin
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Posted - 2007.05.07 15:04:00 -
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A few things that people like to say about Titans that I'd like to bring into question as the main subject of a thread.
Quote: Titans were introduced to break blobs.
Titans were in the item database forever. Nobody conceived the idea of a Titan to break a blob. I think Titans were conceived by a developer that was watching Irresponsible Captain Tylar while beating it and said "Dude we gotta have a huge fleet Mothership with a BOOM UR ALL DED button!!".
Also I don't think it would be CCP's intention to have the Final Fantasy victory music to play once your corp builds a Titan. You cannot siege a corp that has a titan. They will /PUSH-BUTTAN on you.
That brings us to... How to avoid getting DDD'd. I can provide quote after quote on what to do when you encounter a titan, but they are still only how to avoid getting DDD'd.
Apparently there is supposed to be a good bit of time to let players be aware that a DDD is about to be fired, but I've seen conflicting reports. Lag has something to do with it im sure. One corp getting an instant warning from their fleet commander to warp out cause they know exactly when the pilot POOSHED BUTTAN and so they warp out, and the other blob may have to trust what the lag shows them, and get DDD'd instantly.
How to kill a Titan. Theorycrafting aside, piloted Titans can't be killed. Therefore it is my belief that for the infinite history of EvE, no Titan will ever be destroyed by conventional means. Either retarded Titan pilots will LET them be destroyed, (as is the case in every single Titan kill in eve's history, where the hell do people find pilots with so many skillpoints that suck so bad?) or the Titans will be stolen by either account hacking or espionage.
All the theory on how to destroy a titan involved lots of silly theorycrafting that assumes a titan pilot is flying around solo and has no capacitor modules fitted. Clue: A Titan will have the fasted capacitor recharge in the game. Its only point is to activate Jumpgate, DDD, and sit there making a nice passive bonus. A titan will have the most expensive tech 2 capacitor recharging mods/rigs in the game, and thats the only way that i've seen people suggest to kill a titan, to drain its capacitor... With what? After a DDD they'll be back to 100% in like 20 seconds. Thats assuming a Titan pilot even stays at the battlefield, which they have no reason to anyways. Why not just be in a safe point 10au away, just as good if not better.
Maybe this isn't what the Titan was intended for, but this is the reality of it. Titans aren't being used as the mobile docking stations with vat bays and siege rigs. They are just DDD sniping platforms with invincible capacitor recharge. All you can do is avoid them, and you can't even do that reliably. my 2c _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |
Serendipity007
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.07 15:14:00 -
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Correct me if I am wrong, but a Dev Blog way back said "Titans won't be a solopwn mobile, or a big damage ship. Titans will be a mobile starbse. If you want DPS, fly a Dreadnaught". Well, it turns out that Titans are solopwn mobiles, and they put out a ton of alphastrike damage. Titans also suck at being a mobile starbase.
One of two things should happen: - 1. Change the way doomsday weapons work. Change doomsdays from a one-hit damage AOE to an AOE debuff. When activated, a DD would do 10% of the damage they do now, along with a 15-minute after-effect debuff area. Cyno's wouldn't be able to be opened inside this field. (No stacking of effects) ___________________________________________________ "I'm an engineer, not a miracle worker!" - Scotty, Star Trek: TOS
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.05.07 15:17:00 -
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Similar complaints have been brought up before.
I think most people agree a DDD should whallop the Titan's cap a lot harder than it does. Add to that firing a DDD through a cyno should be nerfed. Last is take away their immunity to being scrambled and replace it with some suitably high (20?) built in warp stab strength (ala a blockade runner...just far stronger).
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.07 16:03:00 -
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There are what, 5, maybe 6 titans in game? I don't care if they can nuke Jita from 0.0 space, they are a very small (metaphorically speaking) drop in a larger pond.
The amount of effort it takes for Alliances to actually use them is more than compensation for their invincibility aspect.
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2007.05.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
There are what, 5, maybe 6 titans in game? I don't care if they can nuke Jita from 0.0 space, they are a very small (metaphorically speaking) drop in a larger pond.
The amount of effort it takes for Alliances to actually use them is more than compensation for their invincibility aspect.
No more of an effort than moving a carrier. Stock up on fuel, and jump to a cyno. The process is hardly taxing is it?
/me prepares to exercise the f8 button pressing finger... activating that Cyno is SUCH an effort afterall
Oh wait. I Don't have a titan... ___________
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Aypse
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.07 16:24:00 -
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......because the other 50 threads on this exact thread were clearly not enough.
Your post is so revolutionary that it just plain deserves better than being on an existing thread and MUST be in a thread of its own.
Originally by: Oveur
Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.05.07 16:32:00 -
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Look ma, im in a titan thread!
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Conrad Bland
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Posted - 2007.05.07 16:40:00 -
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You also need to take into account that the main use for a titan now is apparently to bounce enemy ships (piloted or otherwise) out of the hostile POS, that they may be killed or stolen.
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Norris Neophitus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.07 17:06:00 -
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Who here see's the WoW player wanting to change EvE to be just like it with Area Effects and Buffs and junk like that.
Personally if i spend a year training towards a titan, a few hundred billion isk, sourced the materials bpc's and so on, then gone through the process of actually builing the thing in low sec while everyone and his friend try and take out my POS in 0.0.
After all that i feel i deserve a solo pwnmobile
and it would be a year for me to be able to equip it properly and i already have 26m Sp's :( probably even longer to get the kind of resources i need to build a badboy like that. --------------------------------------------------- |Phoon = biggest baddest ship in eve-------| |Oh and somebody kill all those old unused| |secure cans (Personal Crusade)------------|
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2007.05.07 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Norris Neophitus Who here see's the WoW player wanting to change EvE to be just like it with Area Effects and Buffs and junk like that.
Could you possibly be anymore transparent? Who here see's the wannabe titan pilot not wanting people to discuss the current reality of titans? _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |
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Y Ashanti
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Posted - 2007.05.07 19:01:00 -
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The main question regarding this is.... where did the third 'D' in DDD come from?
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MuthaTrucka
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.05.07 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Y Ashanti The main question regarding this is.... where did the third 'D' in DDD come from?
DoomsDay Device = DDD Doomsday Device = DD DOOmsday Device = DOOD
Overemphasis on different letters to make a new acronym.
--------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.05.07 20:51:00 -
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YATWT....
Yet Another Titan Whine Thread....
Use one of the 74598732823 other ones and stop cluttering the forum.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.08 02:50:00 -
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2.0 = wait till you see the solution ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
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