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sens1
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.03.30 04:56:50 -
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Is it intended that the dread does not have the armor or turret capacitor bonuses the revelation does? Without these its basically a useless, capless, anemic brick. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3052
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Posted - 2017.03.30 07:47:26 -
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Ncc 1709 wrote:I was hoping for Doomday on the dread :(
The nos bonus on the Fax isnt enough
It needs to be 50% or 100% per level to make it properly useful Better yet, a Blood Raiders faction capital nosferatu.
The titan needs a doomsday that sucks ships capacitor dry and then causes them to deal damage around themselves based on the capacitor they lost.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Justin Cody
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
355
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Posted - 2017.03.30 08:30:07 -
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sens1 wrote:Is it intended that the dread does not have the armor or turret capacitor bonuses the revelation does? Without these its basically a useless, capless, anemic brick.
Use the force...erm Nos I mean use the nos! |
Aleverette
Peoples Liberation Army Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2017.03.30 11:08:51 -
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sens1 wrote:Is it intended that the dread does not have the armor or turret capacitor bonuses the revelation does? Without these its basically a useless, capless, anemic brick.
Because the best use of it is a full buffer fit. Forget about turrents, noses, neuts and the siege module.
The mission of this ship is to drag as much as firepower as possible.
----Trash talk created by CCP's bad game design. |
Tara Read
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
944
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Posted - 2017.03.30 11:22:06 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Ncc 1709 wrote:I was hoping for Doomday on the dread :(
The nos bonus on the Fax isnt enough
It needs to be 50% or 100% per level to make it properly useful Better yet, a Blood Raiders faction capital nosferatu. The titan needs a doomsday that sucks ships capacitor dry and then causes them to deal damage around themselves based on the capacitor they lost.
So an AOE DD mutiplied by the flat capacitor they lose? An interesting concept but not something I think CCP will impliment. It would be an awesome weapon though! |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3052
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Posted - 2017.03.30 16:08:51 -
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Tara Read wrote:So an AOE DD mutiplied by the flat capacitor they lose? An interesting concept but not something I think CCP will impliment. It would be an awesome weapon though! It could have an effect pattern determined by the weapon, and all damage done to a given ship in the DD path would be dealt based on the capacitor lost by the previous ship in its path. So the first ship hit would take no damage, and the last ship hit would deal no damage.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Cade Windstalker
1188
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Posted - 2017.03.30 17:22:24 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:Spc One wrote:Not really, max in eve is 99.9% you can't go past that and even that is impossible to achieve. Same with hardeners, you can't go past 99% resists no matter what you do. Actually, funny thing, you can! The caps are soft, not hard, except in very specific and hard-coded circumstances. If they roll over (generally due to rounding) you end up with, um, 'funny' results. Like the DST that infamously managed to get over 100% resists, got shot, and took infinite damage and exploded! Presumably without a similar hard limit on web speed reductions a Vindi-bonused grappler would result in a ship very briefly going infinity miles per hour, shooting out of web range, and slowing down somewhere around the next star system over... That's a whole new level of "slingshot it into warp".
I'm now imagining a ship aligning, getting webbed, shooting to Plaid, finally slowing down on the *other* side of the warp destination, and having to either stop and turn around to warp or literally warping backwards as it hits the velocity required to enter warp finally and the original warp algorithm kicks in...
CCPls let me test this on Sisi! Please!?!!?!?! |
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1837
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Posted - 2017.03.30 19:37:56 -
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Well on the one side, the Molok needs more capacitor compared to the Avatar (up to 50 % reduction in cap use for energy turrets) and on the other side, for Cap NEUTs, it will need much more capacitor to be effective.
Capacitor pool is close to the Avatar (145 TJ compared with 135 TJ) at the same recharge time = around 7 % higher recharge rate
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Cade Windstalker
1191
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Posted - 2017.03.30 21:04:25 -
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HandelsPharmi wrote:Well on the one side, the Molok needs more capacitor compared to the Avatar (up to 50 % reduction in cap use for energy turrets) and on the other side, for Cap NEUTs, it will need much more capacitor to be effective.
Capacitor pool is close to the Avatar (145 TJ compared with 135 TJ) at the same recharge time = around 7 % higher recharge rate
Don't forget that the Molok has 4 turrets to power while the Avatar has 6. That's an effective 33% reduction in cap use (or 33% more than the Avatar uses, aren't fractions fun). Also it can run 1 Neut and 1 NOS for the value of (about) two regular Neuts on another ship for less total cap per effective neut, or just run NOS.
And yeah, there's the higher cap pool plus recharge time, plus how both of those interact with skills and stuff.
Just pointing that out. |
Luna Le Fey
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2017.03.30 21:55:05 -
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Off topic but anyone else disapointed that the unique blood raider ship design stopped at the Ashimmu ? |
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Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
188
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Posted - 2017.03.30 22:52:47 -
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It's funny. The replies to this are very telling. Before even reading any of them I thought to myself... "Wow, content for 3 groups. Goons, PL, and NC."
This is just documented proof. Nearly all comments are from those 3, almost like they know as well that they are sanctified by CCP.
Thanks CCP for providing content to 1% of the 1% of the 1% of those who keep your lights on.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will never see one on the field, much less have access to one. But we're ok being abused and harrassed out of the game by bulk-wardeccing bullies who ultimately have zero ambition in the game other than destroy the experience for as many as possible.
Well done yet again CCP, well done. You continue to amaze. |
Querns
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2836
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Posted - 2017.03.31 01:56:52 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:It's funny. The replies to this are very telling. Before even reading any of them I thought to myself... "Wow, content for 3 groups. Goons, PL, and NC."
This is just documented proof. Nearly all comments are from those 3, almost like they know as well that they are sanctified by CCP.
Thanks CCP for providing content to 1% of the 1% of the 1% of those who keep your lights on.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will never see one on the field, much less have access to one. But we're ok being abused and harrassed out of the game by bulk-wardeccing bullies who ultimately have zero ambition in the game other than destroy the experience for as many as possible for giggles.
Well done yet again CCP, well done. You continue to amaze.
I mean, if you want one, just get one. You don't have to be in a specific alliance to own the shiny, as long as you have the ISK to pay for it. You sure as hell don't need to be in a specific alliance to get ISK.
Also, "bulk-wardeccing?" Is this some sort of tangent or something? We don't wardec folks -- suicide ganking is our forte.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Penance Toralen
Compass Fox
38
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Posted - 2017.03.31 03:17:10 -
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Querns wrote:We don't wardec folks -- suicide ganking is our forte. since Star Alliance, eh?
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3052
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Posted - 2017.03.31 08:41:21 -
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I can assure you my alliance is one of the ones getting constantly wardecced.
Probably major capital alliances will be best able to put these ships to use, but anyone who can field capitals can field these capitals. It's just ISK vs risk, and these will probably cost more ISK.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Cade Windstalker
1197
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Posted - 2017.03.31 13:48:00 -
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Luna Le Fey wrote:Off topic but anyone else disapointed that the unique blood raider ship design stopped at the Ashimmu ?
Yes, but if CCP will remodel my bloody Basilisk hull to stop it looking like crushed luggage then I'll forgive them for waiting a few years to rework the Pirate hulls which currently don't look too bad.
Everything we know indicates that CCP's art pipeline is pretty full, so it's not surprising that they're not investing hugely in new models for these ships until they're certain they won't break the game. |
Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
119
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Posted - 2017.04.01 13:12:29 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Any comment on the hangar size debate so we can put it to rest? Sure, we're happy with the existing fleet hanger size. Its the same as the Vanquisher.
Vanquisher doesn't have corpse bay, does it? Reduce the corpse bay a little more and merge it to the fleet hangar/cargo bay so it can carry /swap out that extra module.
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Cade Windstalker
1209
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Posted - 2017.04.01 17:55:19 -
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Panther X wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Any comment on the hangar size debate so we can put it to rest? Sure, we're happy with the existing fleet hanger size. Its the same as the Vanquisher. Vanquisher doesn't have corpse bay, does it? Reduce the corpse bay a little more and merge it to the fleet hangar/cargo bay so it can carry /swap out that extra module.
The corpse bay is fun flavor, it's not a balance parameter.... |
Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2017.04.01 23:04:50 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Panther X wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Any comment on the hangar size debate so we can put it to rest? Sure, we're happy with the existing fleet hanger size. Its the same as the Vanquisher. Vanquisher doesn't have corpse bay, does it? Reduce the corpse bay a little more and merge it to the fleet hangar/cargo bay so it can carry /swap out that extra module. The corpse bay is fun flavor, it's not a balance parameter....
Then give fun to the others too? |
Cade Windstalker
1211
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Posted - 2017.04.01 23:13:35 -
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Atomeon wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:The corpse bay is fun flavor, it's not a balance parameter.... Then give fun to the others too?
The non-Bloodraider factions aren't crazed bloodthirsty maniacs. It would be weirdly out of character for anyone else to have a corpse bay (except maybe the Sleepers/Drifters) |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.02 04:04:54 -
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Creecher Virpio wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Ncc 1709 wrote:@mr rive Your math is off. maxed skill the capital nos will get 2000 capacitor per 20 seconds. so its actually 100 cap/s Yes but the Dagon gets a 150% bonus. My math is terrible, but either way, the nos cannot be used to run the remote reps at all reliably, given the cycle time bonus the Dagon gets. 0 cap stability is nothing new to fax machines. You still have mid slots just like the apostle does, and you get the nos bonus Actually, the capital T2 remote rep at max skills will cost the Dagon 487 Gj/s to run, and keep in mind this is with the cycle time reduction. The nos pulling in 100 Gj/s is a very significant chunk of capacitor income and can do a lot toward making the fit cap stable, which is a lot more than can be said for a T1 force auxiliary. So this ship is most definitely more cap stable than a T1 fax. But if the nosferatus are affected by the triage module, it'll pull in 400 Gj/s, making it easily cap stable running 2 reps and 2 nos, and it can have a third rep on standby for when the ship has some extra capacitor.
And you're using the fax as a recon while it's playing logi.
Blueberry cuddlemuffin wrote:What is the temperature inside of the corpse bays? Can't have the corpses go bad It's thirty-five.
Thirty-five Kelvin inside the tubes, but the observation deck passageway is a balmy thirty-five Celsius.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.02 05:27:14 -
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Atomeon wrote:Then give fun to the others too? It's more fun if it's more unique. Great way to ruin a great thing is make it cheap.
Cade Windstalker wrote:The non-Bloodraider factions aren't crazed bloodthirsty maniacs. It would be weirdly out of character for anyone else to have a corpse bay (except maybe the Sleepers/Drifters) What's the difference between an Amarrian and a Blood Raider?
One is a bloodthirsty hypocrite dedicated to nihilism, worshiping a font of eternal youth, killing in the name of a child-killing, slaver devil-god. The other's a Blood Raider.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
156
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Posted - 2017.04.02 14:59:57 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:It's funny. The replies to this are very telling. Before even reading any of them I thought to myself... "Wow, content for 3 groups. Goons, PL, and NC."
This is just documented proof. Nearly all comments are from those 3, almost like they know as well that they are sanctified by CCP.
Thanks CCP for providing content to 1% of the 1% of the 1% of those who keep your lights on.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will never see one on the field, much less have access to one. But we're ok being abused and harrassed out of the game by bulk-wardeccing bullies who ultimately have zero ambition in the game other than destroy the experience for as many as possible for giggles.
Well done yet again CCP, well done. You continue to amaze.
why are you crying at PL and NC and goons about CCP making a ship too expensive?
Literally just said they should reduce the cost of the capital hulls before you started your tirade... |
Draclira Merlonne's Son
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
113
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Posted - 2017.04.03 17:55:18 -
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Mother will be proud. |
Tara Read
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
946
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Posted - 2017.04.04 08:29:23 -
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Draclira Merlonne's Son wrote:Mother will be proud.
Hahahahaha nice. |
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
157
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Posted - 2017.04.04 20:54:40 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote: Actually, the capital T2 remote rep at max skills will cost the Dagon 487 Gj/s to run, and keep in mind this is with the cycle time reduction. The nos pulling in 100 Gj/s is a very significant chunk of capacitor income and can do a lot toward making the fit cap stable, which is a lot more than can be said for a T1 force auxiliary. So this ship is most definitely more cap stable than a T1 fax. But if the nosferatus are affected by the triage module, it'll pull in 400 Gj/s, making it easily cap stable running 2 reps and 2 nos, and it can have a third rep on standby for when the ship has some extra capacitor.
Sorry this is just wrong. First off, why on earth would they make triage effect the NOS bonus? No other FAX gets a NOS bonus in triage so unless they change the current bonuses, this just isn't possible.
The dagon also has far less of a capacitor pool to draw on than the apostle, due to the apostle's bonus to cap pool, making regen less.
You will STILL need a significant amount of cap regen in the form of cap boosters or something else. As I have said, you MAY be able to run your local reppers of a 3 NOS 2 RR 1 triage setup. The remote tank is FAR too cap intensive to be anywhere near stable.
As for the assertion that it is more cap stable than t1 fax, well... A ninazu with a single cap booster gets a 133 cap/sec bonus from its hull bonus ALONE, ignoring recharge. Same with the lif. So no, it is not more cap stable than t1 FAX, not by a long shot.
PLS, I look at this a lot, and I would rather CCP saw true information in here that might persuade them to look again at the role bonuses. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3053
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Posted - 2017.04.05 03:19:16 -
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Mr Rive wrote:Sorry this is just wrong. First off, why on earth would they make triage effect the NOS bonus? No other FAX gets a NOS bonus in triage so unless they change the current bonuses, this just isn't possible. Maybe it should get a NOS bonus in triage. After all, the NOS is supposed to be its source of capacitor. If its capacitor problems as-is are as bad as you say, then CCP could give it a little role bonus:
Role Bonus: 150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode (does not increase capacitor removed from target)
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1838
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Posted - 2017.04.05 10:59:49 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Sorry this is just wrong. First off, why on earth would they make triage effect the NOS bonus? No other FAX gets a NOS bonus in triage so unless they change the current bonuses, this just isn't possible. Maybe it should get a NOS bonus in triage. After all, the NOS is supposed to be its source of capacitor. If its capacitor problems as-is are as bad as you say, then CCP could give it a little role bonus: Role Bonus:150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode (does not increase capacitor removed from target)
Would be exploited like this:
Bring 10 of these carriers on grid, and start a "cap chaining".
Your NOS will remove X GJ of cap from me, transfer it with 150 % bonus to you and you will get 2.5X GJ of cap. I will start my NOS on you and will get 1.5X net back ^^ |
Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
120
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Posted - 2017.04.05 14:07:47 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Sorry this is just wrong. First off, why on earth would they make triage effect the NOS bonus? No other FAX gets a NOS bonus in triage so unless they change the current bonuses, this just isn't possible. Maybe it should get a NOS bonus in triage. After all, the NOS is supposed to be its source of capacitor. If its capacitor problems as-is are as bad as you say, then CCP could give it a little role bonus: Role Bonus:150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode (does not increase capacitor removed from target)
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. How do you take Y amount of energy from a target and turn it into Y times 150%? You're creating energy from nothing.
150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode
Fixed
Triage should turn this ship into a super vampire
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3292
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Posted - 2017.04.05 17:11:50 -
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Panther X wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Sorry this is just wrong. First off, why on earth would they make triage effect the NOS bonus? No other FAX gets a NOS bonus in triage so unless they change the current bonuses, this just isn't possible. Maybe it should get a NOS bonus in triage. After all, the NOS is supposed to be its source of capacitor. If its capacitor problems as-is are as bad as you say, then CCP could give it a little role bonus: Role Bonus:150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode (does not increase capacitor removed from target) That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. How do you take Y amount of energy from a target and turn it into Y times 150%? You're creating energy from nothing. 150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode Fixed Triage should turn this ship into a super vampire
If it's not OK to "create energy out of nothing", I guess all cap chaining logi needs to be deleted. |
Maiden Mayaki
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2017.04.05 20:15:02 -
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Molok should have a custom DD that consumes corpses and power of the dd is dependent on corpses consumed
edit: also now your April fools corpse collector makes sense and should be introduced |
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