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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
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Posted - 2017.02.23 11:41:51 -
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What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself. |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
342
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Posted - 2017.02.23 12:39:07 -
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You're going to need an alt for this. The chance of a PLEX sitting in a wreck on the Jita undock for 15 minutes is pretty much negative. After you gank, you'll have a criminal timer which will cause the destruction of any ship you undock with in hisec. It's also going to be boring, and require a lot of actions (since you have to cargo scan just about everything you think you can gank), so it's probably not the most efficient way you can make ISK. That said, fun/hour > ISK/hour, so if you enjoy it, gank away! Good on you for trying to find a way to part fools and their money.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3469
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Posted - 2017.02.23 12:51:11 -
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Cargo scanning does not trigger Concord but it's tedious. The best option is to fit a battleship with lots of highslots, like the Rokh with smartbombs, switch your safety to red, undock from Jita 4-4, wait 5s, and start the smart bombs. So you will eventually hit someone with PLEX in the cargo.
(I know it's NCQ&A, but sometimes ...)
I'm my own NPC alt.
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pinkajoo
47
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Posted - 2017.02.23 13:05:22 -
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There was a reddit post about this the other day, and it goes like "..go shovel snow from someone's driveway..". Shelling out $$$ really is the quickest way to get PLEX, and helps CCP feed its hamsters.
If you're deadset on ganking ships that carry them, do it with others and enjoy the intel and organization tools that they have. The Goon's miniluv and CODE. comes into mind, try to drop them an evemail.
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
A not-so quick way is to jump into null and join the big blocs to enjoy the content there, which is usually high paying. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
64
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Posted - 2017.02.23 13:20:55 -
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^^^^ Go make some real cash and buy one.
You could sit around in Akita trying to camp people, but I feel like you're going to spend a lot of time sitting and not a lot of time looting plex off of wrecks (people learn quickly not to move me around in their holds,) |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
1965
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Posted - 2017.02.23 14:03:35 -
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If you only get paid 5 $ an hour your real live ticks are at 111 Million ISK per 20min when buying PLEX for 15 $ a piece. If you earn more than that or buying cheaper PLEX your real live ticks increase accordingly. So if you are only looking for a fast way you have to beat those real live ticks first.
You can earn 200+ Million ISK per hour in EVE, so for some players GÇ£get a shovelGÇ¥ is NOT the fastest way to earn a PLEX. Problem is that most of those high income careers in EVE need some skills and investment up front, so as a newbie your options are very limited. Trading, scamming and ganking may be the least skill intensive ways to earn fast PLEX, but you still need some starter capital/brain/knollege to pull it off. Gas huffing and salvaging with a good WH corp may be another relativly fast way for a new player to earn PLEX. |
Otago Dogwalker
The Scope Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2017.02.23 20:47:14 -
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Just buy one.
Keeps the game going by paying wages to CCP folks.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.23 22:30:08 -
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pinkajoo wrote:There was a reddit post about this the other day, and it goes like "..go shovel snow from someone's driveway..". Shelling out $$$ really is the quickest way to get PLEX, and helps CCP feed its hamsters.
If you're deadset on ganking ships that carry them, do it with others and enjoy the intel and organization tools that they have. The Goon's miniluv and CODE. comes into mind, try to drop them an evemail.
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
A not-so quick way is to jump into null and join the big blocs to enjoy the content there, which is usually high paying. I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.
So far, seems like stealing is the best option :P How big even are PLEX'es? I'm thinking if I can fit out a cheap ship for robbing PLEX-laden graves or even making them myself, I'll easily be able to nab one a month - keep it minimal and keep the food unaware. :P |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.23 22:31:18 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Cargo scanning does not trigger Concord but it's tedious. The best option is to fit a battleship with lots of highslots, like the Rokh with smartbombs, switch your safety to red, undock from Jita 4-4, wait 5s, and start the smart bombs. So you will eventually hit someone with PLEX in the cargo. (I know it's NCQ&A, but sometimes ...) ... and alpha's can do that?
There's one BC I think for them, but that's it... |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27758
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Posted - 2017.02.24 00:54:31 -
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pinkajoo wrote:Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc.. Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.
An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.24 01:13:54 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:pinkajoo wrote:Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc.. Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken. An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.24 01:17:02 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:pinkajoo wrote:Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc.. Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken. An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. I can get a Merlin to go a solid 1-2kms... enough to drive-by a wreck and loot it and then be outta there before anyone realizes what happens... so that'a not out of the question even without a MTU. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27759
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Posted - 2017.02.24 02:38:51 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:pinkajoo wrote:Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc.. Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken. An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD Did what with one of your wrecks? And what do you mean by timed out?
If they went suspect they probably looted the wreck, they wouldn't have been able to activate a tractor beam on a wreck that wasn't A: theirs or B: abandoned, the game simply won't allow it.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1902
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:57:23 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote: I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.
Spending most of your time in game trying to EARN isk just because you want to be cheap is a good way to turn a game into a job. $15 for a month's worth of entertainment is not much money at all. You will spend more than that on cable TV or a night out.
IMHO you really need to think about what it is you are trying to do. When you are at work in your real life job you are trying to make money. Do you really want to come home at night and do the same thing in your gaming life?
To me Eve is a game and as such fun should be the priority. You should not be asking yourself "how can I earn a PLEX as fast as possible" you should be asking yourself "how can I enjoy my time in game as much as possible".
That's just my two cents. In the end it's your game time and you can turn it into a job if you want to. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.24 11:29:22 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:pinkajoo wrote:Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc.. Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken. An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD Did what with one of your wrecks? And what do you mean by timed out? If they went suspect they probably looted the wreck, they wouldn't have been able to activate a tractor beam on a wreck that wasn't A: theirs or B: abandoned, the game simply won't allow it. Wrecks go abandoned after awhile. I was gonna salvage the accidental kill I got I'm my Venture... but he snapped it up somehow. Along with one of our secure containers... |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27760
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Posted - 2017.02.24 11:54:16 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:Wrecks go abandoned after awhile. I was gonna salvage the accidental kill I got I'm my Venture... but he snapped it up somehow. Unless CCP have changed it recently you're mistaken, the ownership flag of wrecks only changes if the owner abandons them via the right click menu; they do despawn after a while (approx 2hrs)
Quote:Along with one of our secure containers... Secure containers are only secure if they are both anchored and password protected.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions Hole Control
378
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Posted - 2017.02.24 12:20:04 -
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The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game.
Wormholer for life.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
30
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Posted - 2017.02.24 12:27:22 -
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Wander Prian wrote:The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game. Unless you get lucky with a MWD Merlin snatching gank wrecks in Jita... |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
1979
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Posted - 2017.02.24 12:37:37 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote: I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.
You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. |
Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions Hole Control
378
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Posted - 2017.02.24 14:04:34 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:Wander Prian wrote:The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game. Unless you get lucky with a MWD Merlin snatching gank wrecks in Jita...
That requires the same amount of luck as winning the lottery, or getting hit by lightning. If your only goal is to get omega and not pay real money, you will grind all the fun out of the game and quit.
Start as an alpha and learn the game. Once you feel confident, pay for a few months to get you started. Once you have some basic ways to make money ready, then you can start thinking about PLEX.
Being omega is not the goal of the game. Neither is playing for free.
Wormholer for life.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
1184
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Posted - 2017.02.24 14:41:19 -
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Quickest way to a plex is here Official CCP Plex Store Can't afford to buy them or do not want to spend the real money my suggestion is to try trading or industrial activities. Both of them will be a more reliable route to plex than trying to steal them especially if you only have a single account. Low sec and worm holes offer the best option here, if I want to put forth the effort I can easily plex 2 accounts a month with PI and other low sec related industrial activities that are as close to risk free as low sec can possibly be.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. This is incorrect, tractor beams follow your safety setting in the client. Set your safety to something other than green and your tractors should work fine on any wreck you come across. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27765
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Posted - 2017.02.24 15:46:56 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. This is incorrect, tractor beams follow your safety setting in the client. Set your safety to something other than green and your tractors should work fine on any wreck you come across. The Eve Uni wiki, and my own experience says otherwise. I suggest that you check in game.
AFAIK, and there's been a fairly recent thread on it, a tractor beam WILL NOT activate on a wreck that isn't A: legally yours or B: abandoned.
There's a reason looters scoot about instead of using tractors on other peoples wrecks even if the site of the wrecks is otherwise empty, they don't use them because they don't work on yellow wrecks.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Keno Skir
1312
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Posted - 2017.02.24 15:56:18 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:I can get a Merlin to go a solid 1-2kms...
Yeah you're gonna need a ship that goes fast tho...
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
31
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Posted - 2017.02.24 20:02:15 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:I can get a Merlin to go a solid 1-2kms... Yeah you're gonna need a ship that goes fast tho... ... how is that not fast |
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse Deux
307
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Posted - 2017.02.24 20:10:36 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself.
Since you dont know and by the looks of your plan, it sounds like you are the "poor idiot". Just putting it in focus for you sport. Join a big corp and let them do the thinking for you.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
31
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Posted - 2017.02.24 20:19:44 -
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Jax Bederen wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself. Since you dont know and by the looks of your plan, it sounds like you are the "poor idiot". Just putting it in focus for you sport. Join a big corp and let them do the thinking for you. I've been tossing theoretical ideas around. Never tried them, likely never will. Sure, I could do it in a Gnosis, but those are relatively expensive and slow... only thing it seems good at is mission running. Omegas would just use Battleships instead of the battle cruisers.
That said, I did manage to fit a 50mn MWD on a destroyer... couldn't fit guns tho. Went 3700 m/s. Either way, from the expensive cost of a PLEX, it seems it's more of a 'top 1%' type item than the 'average joe with a bit of elbow grease' type one. Can't seem to make more than 1-2mil ISK/hr, so I've kind of been just training things until I get maxed so it's worth buying Omega with real money.
Because wormholes are a death sentence and exploration takes forever.
Oh and because I can't afford a Gnosis for mission running. I have a fit for it (it's more fit to chase down things but whatev's) but no ship to fit. |
Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions Hole Control
378
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Posted - 2017.02.24 22:58:34 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:Jax Bederen wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself. Since you dont know and by the looks of your plan, it sounds like you are the "poor idiot". Just putting it in focus for you sport. Join a big corp and let them do the thinking for you. I've been tossing theoretical ideas around. Never tried them, likely never will. Sure, I could do it in a Gnosis, but those are relatively expensive and slow... only thing it seems good at is mission running. Omegas would just use Battleships instead of the battle cruisers. That said, I did manage to fit a 50mn MWD on a destroyer... couldn't fit guns tho. Went 3700 m/s. Either way, from the expensive cost of a PLEX, it seems it's more of a 'top 1%' type item than the 'average joe with a bit of elbow grease' type one. Can't seem to make more than 1-2mil ISK/hr, so I've kind of been just training things until I get maxed so it's worth buying Omega with real money. Because wormholes are a death sentence and exploration takes forever. Oh and because I can't afford a Gnosis for mission running. I have a fit for it (it's more fit to chase down things but whatev's) but no ship to fit.
The biggest reason for your now ISK/hr is the fact that you are new and you haven't learned enough of the game. Eve takes patience and willingness to learn. Trying to get rich quick usually results in either a total burnout of the game or getting scammed out of your ISK. Dying in a badly fit, over-expensive ship that you cannot afford to replace is also a likely candidate.
Wormholer for life.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
31
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Posted - 2017.02.25 01:25:02 -
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Wander Prian wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:Jax Bederen wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself. Since you dont know and by the looks of your plan, it sounds like you are the "poor idiot". Just putting it in focus for you sport. Join a big corp and let them do the thinking for you. I've been tossing theoretical ideas around. Never tried them, likely never will. Sure, I could do it in a Gnosis, but those are relatively expensive and slow... only thing it seems good at is mission running. Omegas would just use Battleships instead of the battle cruisers. That said, I did manage to fit a 50mn MWD on a destroyer... couldn't fit guns tho. Went 3700 m/s. Either way, from the expensive cost of a PLEX, it seems it's more of a 'top 1%' type item than the 'average joe with a bit of elbow grease' type one. Can't seem to make more than 1-2mil ISK/hr, so I've kind of been just training things until I get maxed so it's worth buying Omega with real money. Because wormholes are a death sentence and exploration takes forever. Oh and because I can't afford a Gnosis for mission running. I have a fit for it (it's more fit to chase down things but whatev's) but no ship to fit. The biggest reason for your now ISK/hr is the fact that you are new and you haven't learned enough of the game. Eve takes patience and willingness to learn. Trying to get rich quick usually results in either a total burnout of the game or getting scammed out of your ISK. Dying in a badly fit, over-expensive ship that you cannot afford to replace is also a likely candidate. The ISK/hr is net - I afk mine in 1.9mil a pop T2 mining and T1 explo Ventures. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
31
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Posted - 2017.02.25 02:00:39 -
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Wander Prian wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:Jax Bederen wrote:Ajem Hinken wrote:What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)
Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself. Since you dont know and by the looks of your plan, it sounds like you are the "poor idiot". Just putting it in focus for you sport. Join a big corp and let them do the thinking for you. I've been tossing theoretical ideas around. Never tried them, likely never will. Sure, I could do it in a Gnosis, but those are relatively expensive and slow... only thing it seems good at is mission running. Omegas would just use Battleships instead of the battle cruisers. That said, I did manage to fit a 50mn MWD on a destroyer... couldn't fit guns tho. Went 3700 m/s. Either way, from the expensive cost of a PLEX, it seems it's more of a 'top 1%' type item than the 'average joe with a bit of elbow grease' type one. Can't seem to make more than 1-2mil ISK/hr, so I've kind of been just training things until I get maxed so it's worth buying Omega with real money. Because wormholes are a death sentence and exploration takes forever. Oh and because I can't afford a Gnosis for mission running. I have a fit for it (it's more fit to chase down things but whatev's) but no ship to fit. The biggest reason for your now ISK/hr is the fact that you are new and you haven't learned enough of the game. Eve takes patience and willingness to learn. Trying to get rich quick usually results in either a total burnout of the game or getting scammed out of your ISK. Dying in a badly fit, over-expensive ship that you cannot afford to replace is also a likely candidate. I'm also not too new - two months of active play and counting. I fit ships for cost :P |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
1184
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Posted - 2017.02.26 15:12:45 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Donnachadh wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks. This is incorrect, tractor beams follow your safety setting in the client. Set your safety to something other than green and your tractors should work fine on any wreck you come across. The Eve Uni wiki, and my own experience says otherwise. I suggest that you check in game, I shall do the same when I get home and edit my posts if needed. AFAIK, and there's been a fairly recent thread on it, a tractor beam WILL NOT activate on a wreck that isn't A: legally yours or B: abandoned. There's a reason looters scoot about instead of using tractors on other peoples wrecks even if the site of the wrecks is otherwise empty, they don't use them because they don't work on yellow wrecks. Like you I will have to check this, thank you for the thoughts on it, if you are correct then it was my bad to mention it. |
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1010
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Posted - 2017.03.01 22:51:59 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time.
Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 00:46:02 -
[32] - Quote
Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. I'm not that kind of guy - I just want PLEX to train the basic Omega skills I want for free. Then I'll pay.
That said, it'd be nice to sustain my acc with a PLEX. |
Takh Meir'noen
Viziam Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2017.03.02 01:20:32 -
[33] - Quote
Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much.
Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 02:15:09 -
[34] - Quote
Takh Meir'noen wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. Yeah, I've read tons of those kinds of stories - so sustainability is a long-term preference, not a immediate goal. I first want to get my hands on some stuff like an Astero and a mining barge. And naturally, I'd want to toy with it, fly it around, push it to the limit, and then sit stunned for five seconds after realizing I pushed a little too hard. |
Takh Meir'noen
Viziam Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2017.03.02 04:11:01 -
[35] - Quote
Ajem Hinken wrote:Takh Meir'noen wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. Yeah, I've read tons of those kinds of stories - so sustainability is a long-term preference, not a immediate goal. I first want to get my hands on some stuff like an Astero and a mining barge. And naturally, I'd want to toy with it, fly it around, push it to the limit, and then sit stunned for five seconds after realizing I pushed a little too hard.
To make something clear--I've been playing EVE long enough that I make up to 2B ISK a month pretty consistently (between PI, L4s, exploration, and station trading). The problem though has always been that I had to.
I'll probably only clear 1B isk this month; but I put 2B in ships in my PVP hangar last month, and I haven't even lost 1/4 of them yet. I'm so much happier knowing that every single ISK I make can be thrown at PVP ships. |
erg cz
Broz With Froz Dot Dot Dot
552
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Posted - 2017.03.02 08:56:04 -
[36] - Quote
Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location. So you dream about getting PLEX from someones cargo is pretty much utopia, IMHO.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 11:13:10 -
[37] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location. So you dream about getting PLEX from someones cargo is pretty much utopia, IMHO. There are many incompetent pilots out there. |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
2023
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Posted - 2017.03.02 14:48:58 -
[38] - Quote
Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much.
Or because online games are not worth spending real money on but totaly worth wasting ones time with. I am fine with spending some bucks on entertainment and don't make a difference if it is music, art, plays or games. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1011
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Posted - 2017.03.02 17:51:20 -
[39] - Quote
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:Or because online games are not worth spending real money on but totaly worth wasting ones time with. I am fine with spending some bucks on entertainment and don't make a difference if it is music, art, plays or games.
Mindless grinding for ISK isn't entertainment, it's a job. |
Elena Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
1784
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Posted - 2017.03.02 17:59:31 -
[40] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location.
That doesn't work. Once redeemed, the plex cannot be redeemed to a different location. https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203599221-Reverse-Redeeming |
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Lucian Skord
Aetherium.
20
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Posted - 2017.03.03 14:08:34 -
[41] - Quote
Look for ships fighting each other when one dies loot the wreck and immediately warp off. Sell the goods. Profit. You just might get very lucky...
You can be shot at once you loot the wreck. So warp off asap. Use the cheapest thing u can. And putt nanofibers in the lows. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
37
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Posted - 2017.03.03 23:08:18 -
[42] - Quote
Lucian Skord wrote:Look for ships fighting each other when one dies loot the wreck and immediately warp off. Sell the goods. Profit. You just might get very lucky...
You can be shot at once you loot the wreck. So warp off asap. Use the cheapest thing u can. And putt nanofibers in the lows. Yep, I know that. I'm talking waiting for the killer to get CONCORD'ed, then scoop the loot before their looter alt/themselves can get it |
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