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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5580
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:19:11 -
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For anyone at CCP listening, this event was a colossal fail. The good: GÇó Yay, some new free SKINs...
The bad: GÇó No Angel SKINs (you have to buy these from CCP, so Gallente drops only) GÇó No accelerators or really anything else for that matter (occasional drug doesn't count) GÇó No meta loot drops and salvage is practically worthless (I've done it just to kill time) GÇó These sites were apparently designed specifically for Alphas, yet most Alphas have no chance of clearing these in any kind of reasonable timeframe before an Omega swoops in and clears it. Case 1: A Corax that dragged the first wave of frigates out to 100km+. Case 2: A Gnosis that had little if any chance of hitting the frigate wave. Too many other examples to list, but I never lost a single site to an Alpha or saw an Alpha actually get the prize, for that matter.
I'm sure others have points that I've missed...
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1188
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:27:45 -
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I dunno. I've had some fun and a couple fun conversations with it. I tend to hit them in-route to a mission. I've sniped three and been sniped six times. I Jetted a couple skins becuase I already had them. One guy needed help with a mission and I helped him out after he got the skin.
If your only opinion of this is the end prize, you are missing the point. Say hi in local and see what happens.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58503
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:32:47 -
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Just my opinion but if these sites are set up for Alpha Clones then they should probably fleet up if it's a bit too tough for them to complete solo. Also as an Omega Clone, I don't think the sites should drop anything of great value if they are indeed set up for Alpha Clones.
As with all things in life, you gotta pay if you want the good stuff.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5581
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:34:59 -
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MadMuppet wrote:I dunno. I've had some fun and a couple fun conversations with it. I tend to hit them in-route to a mission. I've sniped three and been sniped six times. I Jetted a couple skins becuase I already had them. One guy needed help with a mission and I helped him out after he got the skin.
If your only opinion of this is the end prize, you are missing the point. Say hi in local and see what happens. If your concept of "fun" is that this kind of event is only great for the first 24 hours, then mission success. The rewards just plain suck. I don't really care about the sniping because I've been doing most of it. And by most of it I mean clearing the majority of the event while the other player circle around aimlessly trying to hit the frigates.
Say "hi" in local? Do you mean in general or in response to all the rude comments that have flooded my way. Never mind the fact that this is a competition, after all... Not a single person has asked for any advice (though I've tried to offer some in return). I've even jet-canned the loot afterwards but no one sticks around to claim it.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:36:03 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:For anyone at CCP listening, this event was a colossal fail. The good: GÇó Yay, some new free SKINs...
The bad: GÇó No Angel SKINs (you have to buy these from CCP, so Gallente drops only) GÇó No accelerators or really anything else for that matter (occasional drug doesn't count) GÇó No meta loot drops and salvage is practically worthless (I've done it just to kill time) GÇó These sites were apparently designed specifically for Alphas, yet most Alphas have no chance of clearing these in any kind of reasonable timeframe before an Omega swoops in and clears it. Case 1: A Corax that dragged the first wave of frigates out to 100km+. Case 2: A Gnosis that had little if any chance of hitting the frigate wave. Too many other examples to list, but I never lost a single site to an Alpha or saw an Alpha actually get the prize, for that matter.
I'm sure others have points that I've missed...
I am alpha (Max Alpha, actually , minus a single lvl in mining upgrades) and doing just fine with a Gnosis. Web is key. I even bagged myself an Orthos kill. I swooped in and won ownership of the BC wreck and then he went suspect then criminal all at once. He made a grave mistake with safety settings and for some odd ball reason only he knows shot the wreck after looting it. I subsequently stole his kill from Concord. I have 19 skins so far and 6 additional duplicates. These sites are all over so even if you get ninjaed by the occasional de-cloaking Astero, that wass sneaky and funny when it happened to me, It is possible to still get a few to yourself in the less populated areas. The event will continue until the 25th I think.
Now Eve news post about the event mentions boosters but they must be extremely rare haven't seen one yet, so there is something there on that complaint but meh I don't use boosters so don't care.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5581
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:40:03 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:I am alpha (Max Alpha, actually , minus a single lvl in mining upgrades) and doing just fine with a Gnosis. Web is key. I even bagged myself an Orthos kill. I swooped in and won ownership of the BC wreck and then he went suspect then criminal all at once. He made a grave mistake with safety settings and for some odd ball reason only he knows shot the wreck after looting it. I subsequently stole his kill from Concord. I have 19 skins so far and 6 additional duplicates. These sites are all over so even if you get ninjaed by the occasional de-cloaking Astero, that wass sneaky and funny when it happened to me, It is possible to still get a few to yourself in the less populated areas. The event will continue until the 25th I think. Now Eve news post about the event mentions boosters but they must be extremely rare haven't seen one yet, so there is something there on that complaint but meh I don't use boosters so don't care. Glad you're enjoying the event! (although based on what I've seen from Alphas, you are probably the exception as opposed to the rule) The "boosters" are apparently an occasional poor drug drop (nothing to get excited about). Yes, the event runs for just under 2 weeks.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:43:37 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:I am alpha (Max Alpha, actually , minus a single lvl in mining upgrades) and doing just fine with a Gnosis. Web is key. I even bagged myself an Orthos kill. I swooped in and won ownership of the BC wreck and then he went suspect then criminal all at once. He made a grave mistake with safety settings and for some odd ball reason only he knows shot the wreck after looting it. I subsequently stole his kill from Concord. I have 19 skins so far and 6 additional duplicates. These sites are all over so even if you get ninjaed by the occasional de-cloaking Astero, that wass sneaky and funny when it happened to me, It is possible to still get a few to yourself in the less populated areas. The event will continue until the 25th I think. Now Eve news post about the event mentions boosters but they must be extremely rare haven't seen one yet, so there is something there on that complaint but meh I don't use boosters so don't care. Glad you're enjoying the event! (although based on what I've seen from Alphas, you are probably the exception as opposed to the rule) The "boosters" are apparently an occasional poor drug drop (nothing to get excited about). Yes, the event runs for just under 2 weeks.
I came across someone in a paladin having a hell of a time killing the frigs, so I webbed them for him and it was still painful to watch, so i wiped them out for him. Once they were gone he 2 volleyed the cruisers. Some of the interactions with other players can be more fun than the loot.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5581
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Posted - 2017.02.16 02:47:08 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:I came across someone in a paladin having a hell of a time killing the frigs, so I webbed them for him and it was still painful to watch, so i wiped them out for him. Once they were gone he 2 volleyed the cruisers. Some of the interactions with other players can be more fun than the loot. I have experienced much the same. Yeah, some of the interactions have been funny. Like watching a half dozen players and even more drones trying vainly to hit something.
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1188
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:03:43 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I dunno. I've had some fun and a couple fun conversations with it. I tend to hit them in-route to a mission. I've sniped three and been sniped six times. I Jetted a couple skins becuase I already had them. One guy needed help with a mission and I helped him out after he got the skin.
If your only opinion of this is the end prize, you are missing the point. Say hi in local and see what happens. If your concept of "fun" is that this kind of event is only great for the first 24 hours, then mission success. The rewards just plain suck. I don't really care about the sniping because I've been doing most of it. And by most of it, I mean clearing the vast majority of the event while the other player circle around aimlessly trying to hit the frigates. The few that I've lost to snipers? Kudos to them! Say "hi" in local? Do you mean in general or in response to all the rude comments that have flooded my way. Never mind the fact that this is a competition, after all... Not a single person has asked for any advice (though I've tried to offer some in return). I've even jet-canned the loot afterwards but no one sticks around to claim it. There have been a few polite players that I've chatted with but most either don't care or couldn't be bothered to waste their time.
One guy that I sniped said something rude to me. In a side convo I told him how I did it and what he should have done.He took my advice and sold a sniped skin for 100 million isk less than an hour later....
... I don't play Eve for isk, prizes, or power. I play because it is an escape. I have, more than once, been reduced to a rookie ship with a single Trit in my hold and I came back.
I dunno... maybe you should get out of The Forge and explore the other areas? Just a thought. Once you get more than six jumps from Jita or 4 jumps from Amarr, you get in to the real game and away from the noise that pollutes gamer souls.
My play sessions are to try to get people involved with the game... seems that yours are not. OK, fair enough. You stop with the event, I am going to keep doing them when I can. This is a fun PVE event ,with some PVP potential, that allows Alphas a chance to do more than just mission and mine.
Now, if you'll excuse me.. I have another Captial Ship skin to sell.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5582
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:21:19 -
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MadMuppet wrote:I dunno... maybe you should get out of The Forge and explore the other areas? Just a thought. Once you get more than six jumps from Jita or 4 jumps from Amarr, you get in to the real game and away from the noise that pollutes gamer souls. Why is this always the first suggestions? Is it too hard to simply acknowledge that "well, yeah - maybe the event kind of sucks".
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2Sonas1Cup
236
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:31:31 -
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CCP is from iceland, you cant expect them to act like a 1st world country in 2017.
Give them cavern man a break. Theyre still amused by facebook to give you an idea how back in the times they are. |
Bertok Francis
Raiju
20
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:37:41 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I dunno... maybe you should get out of The Forge and explore the other areas? Just a thought. Once you get more than six jumps from Jita or 4 jumps from Amarr, you get in to the real game and away from the noise that pollutes gamer souls. Why is this always the first suggestions? Is it too hard to simply acknowledge that "well, yeah - maybe the event kind of sucks". It's not bad if you think of it as an event designed for low SP alpha clones flying badly fit cruisers and destroyers. They should probably have 4 levels. 1) easier then the current one and can be done in an alpha frig with out of the box skills. 2) the current one 3) can be done with great effort by an alpha clone or easily by a group 4) can be done by a single high level site runner in a tengu or battleship or by a small fleet of alphas with logi support. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5582
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:39:51 -
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Bertok Francis wrote:It's not bad if you think of it as an event designed for low SP alpha clones flying badly fit cruisers and destroyers. So more content aimed at the low-hanging fruit...?
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Cade Windstalker
807
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:49:40 -
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So, you mean about the same as the last several minor events that people have gone out and eaten up?
Hey free skins you can sell on the market! |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5582
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Posted - 2017.02.16 03:54:24 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:So, you mean about the same as the last several minor events that people have gone out and eaten up? Hey free skins you can sell on the market! Basically. I keep hearing about the Blood Raider event (one I missed) and how awesome it was.
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
68
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Posted - 2017.02.16 04:02:58 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:GÇó These sites were apparently designed specifically for Alphas, yet most Alphas have no chance of clearing these in any kind of reasonable timeframe before an Omega swoops in and clears it. A blingless stabber was totally enough to solo them after some practice. Faster and more fun with others of course. A careless omega farmer hopping in is a bless - many doesn't even try to outrace the sneaky stabber.
Not to mention the random Rifter or Probe that only hops to sites while traveling for a lucky snatch or two.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Tygg Essex
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
7
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Posted - 2017.02.16 04:09:41 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I dunno... maybe you should get out of The Forge and explore the other areas? Just a thought. Once you get more than six jumps from Jita or 4 jumps from Amarr, you get in to the real game and away from the noise that pollutes gamer souls. Why is this always the first suggestions? Is it too hard to simply acknowledge that "well, yeah - maybe the event kind of sucks".
Because there is a difference between, "I don't like this", and "This sucks". Their both opinions yes, but one is an admission that it is "your" opinion, while the other is a presumption that yours is the prevailing opinion shared by the majority.
TLDR: Your error was presumption. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
691
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Posted - 2017.02.16 04:15:25 -
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what do you expect, it's PvE, it's always gonna be boring...
tried it last night, the most exciting part was when an orthus tried to gank me. argh, we need to improve our baiting-fu though, the catching part specifically...
we completed the site and we got a thanny and an arazu which is nice.
maybe ill try to seriously do it on the weekend and farm for an onieros, then again maybe ill just buy it, i dunno...
Just Add Water
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5587
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Posted - 2017.02.16 05:04:09 -
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Tygg Essex wrote:Because there is a difference between, "I don't like this", and "This sucks". Their both opinions yes, but one is an admission that it is "your" opinion, while the other is a presumption that yours is the prevailing opinion shared by the majority. So you're saying you're enjoying the event? Because if you don't care one way or the other - you're just trolling.
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Wanda Fayne
531
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Posted - 2017.02.16 08:47:56 -
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I dunno, I liked the Hyperion skin I got. Webbed some frigs for some newbs and gave some other person the loot on another. This event isn't about making a bunch of isk or boosters.
I prefer the simple bash and grab events like this as they promote more interaction. Might generate some fights or lols. If it's not your thing or you don't like the skins, then do something else?
+1 from me.
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
-Lan Wang-
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Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
200
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Posted - 2017.02.16 08:54:53 -
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Not terribly excited about the skins since I don't really fly gallente. And the angel skins being purchase only means I will probably only run them if opportunity presents itself.
That being said. At one point I ended up contesting another guy for about 10 sites in a row when I first checked them out. Ended up about 50/50 on them and we had some fun chatting in local. So content is being generated. Even if the rewards are a bit meh |
Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
39
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Posted - 2017.02.16 13:06:22 -
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I've found a Cynabal skin. This post is beneath you, Arthur. Stealing wrecks is part of normal gameplay. So is racing people to clear out sites and finding SKINs, what are you complaining about that isn't a core factor of other PvE? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5598
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Posted - 2017.02.16 13:24:40 -
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Wolfgang Jannesen wrote:I've found a Cynabal skin. Kudos for you. I guess you can find them in-game - they just must be extremely rare.
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Cade Windstalker
811
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Posted - 2017.02.16 14:31:36 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:So, you mean about the same as the last several minor events that people have gone out and eaten up? Hey free skins you can sell on the market! Basically. I keep hearing about the Blood Raider event (one I missed) and how awesome it was.
SKINs plus accelerators is always going to beat out just SKINs, but CCP seem to be rationing out accelerator handouts to around every 3-4 months or so. The last one was the freebies over the winter holiday so the next one should be around Easter, give or take.
Thinking about it I'll bet on something Guristas themed, since we should have the new Caldari ship models out at that point, and releasing new SKINs for them would be a good way to get people out and going pew. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5598
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Posted - 2017.02.16 14:34:40 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:SKINs plus accelerators is always going to beat out just SKINs, but CCP seem to be rationing out accelerator handouts to around every 3-4 months or so. The last one was the freebies over the winter holiday so the next one should be around Easter, give or take.
Thinking about it I'll bet on something Guristas themed, since we should have the new Caldari ship models out at that point, and releasing new SKINs for them would be a good way to get people out and going pew. I'm still hoping for a Gurista Easter Bunny event...
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Hakawai
State War Academy Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2017.02.16 14:49:49 -
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Tygg Essex wrote: Because there is a difference between, "I don't like this", and "This sucks". Their both opinions yes, but one is an admission that it is "your" opinion, while the other is a presumption that yours is the prevailing opinion shared by the majority.
Are you sure you're not making a cultural assumption? Or perhaps trying to impose a hierarchical relationship that's not justified?
Everyone who has the right to post to this forum has the same right to an opinion as the most experienced, ISK-richest, or most spectacularly dishonest EVE player (a few examples of what "highest status" might be in EVE terms). It might not be fair (you'd expect CCP to prioritize the player with the largest number of paid subscriptions), but compared to the game itself it's good enough.
There's certainly no basis for filtering based on poster aggression or rudeness. |
Ayx Shewma
The Scope Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2017.02.16 15:28:07 -
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The frigates are strangely, ridiculously overpowered. And it's not like they have high transversal, they move around fairly slowly. I've tried missiles, blasters, several different drones... Actually, my Wasp IIs kill them the fastest, even faster than Berserker II.
Maybe they just have a hellacious tank... |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3464
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Posted - 2017.02.16 16:36:27 -
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The event is the same as the previous events which is fine, but without a valuable reward ... so this will be the first event I will miss (at least from the PvE part). Just collecting tears by sniping the skin is not enough, and the novelty of skin collections wears of after the Amarr event.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tygg Essex
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
7
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Posted - 2017.02.16 16:46:07 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Tygg Essex wrote:Because there is a difference between, "I don't like this", and "This sucks". Their both opinions yes, but one is an admission that it is "your" opinion, while the other is a presumption that yours is the prevailing opinion shared by the majority. So you're saying you're enjoying the event? Because if you don't care one way or the other - you're just trolling.
Yes I am. Even when I get scooped. It's just another thing to do and brings me into contact with other players an yet another opportunity to compete or collaborate.
I have fun doing lots of different things in EVE, in Hisec, Null, Wormholes. I like pve and pvp. I don't limit myself to what someone else says is cool or important. I also don't judge what other people thin is fun.
If you don't like the event, that is a valid opinion, but that is "Your" opinion. no one is obligated to agree with you. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5603
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Posted - 2017.02.16 21:17:18 -
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I will grant you that the competition aspect is probably the most enjoyable.
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Unit 18
C-H-C
0
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Posted - 2017.02.16 21:26:30 -
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I sniped the skin (Tristan) and the other pilot Kintaris Zulu was not happy. He had choice words and I quote:
Re: ******** From: Kintaris Zulu Sent: 2017.02.16 01:43 To: Unit 18,
you are jjust a pubbie **** piece of ****, your family deserves cancer, tell me where they get buried so i can **** on their graves.
****
Re: ******** From: Unit 18 Sent: 2017.02.16 01:43 To: Kintaris Zulu,
All that over a skin? Get a grip.
******** From: Kintaris Zulu Sent: 2017.02.16 01:42 To: Unit 18,
hope you watch your kids get raped, they deserve it.. |
Cygnus Veram
University of Caille
0
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Posted - 2017.02.16 22:00:46 -
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I hadn't bothered with it yet, learned the basics this morning and did some 14 sites in a Magus Most of those had other people in it but I ended up with 9 skins, with an average value of 10 mil each. Not amazing income but easy to do and quite enjoyable, the passive aggressive targeting by others is entertaining. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5604
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Posted - 2017.02.16 22:03:21 -
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I had a similar experience when I sniped a Nyx SKIN, but you know what? I just chalked it up to the guy being frustrated and left the Nyx SKIN for him in a contract for 1000 ISK. He actually emailed me back to apologize - and that he couldn't believe I would do that for him. Turns out he'd had site after site sniped all evening and just lashed it - which I completely understand. He earned my respect by sending that email.
Sometimes the most rewarding experiences in this game have been when you've done what's least expected.
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Chopper Rollins
Far Beyond Triggered
1778
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Posted - 2017.02.16 22:29:15 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:MadMuppet wrote:I dunno... maybe you should get out of The Forge and explore the other areas? Just a thought. Once you get more than six jumps from Jita or 4 jumps from Amarr, you get in to the real game and away from the noise that pollutes gamer souls. Why is this always the first suggestions? Is it too hard to simply acknowledge that "well, yeah - maybe the event kind of sucks".
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5606
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Posted - 2017.02.16 23:23:19 -
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I'm just saying that there have certainly been better variants of these events, and that this one falls on the lower end of the spectrum. This is just my opinion - no one is under any obligation to agree or disagree. And if you're in the group that is enjoying the event, more power to you. o7
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slphy vansyl
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2017.02.17 01:08:14 -
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EPIC fail! https://secure.eveonline.com/guardians-gala/default.aspx?utm_source=Launcher&utm_campaign=Guardians+Gala+offers&utm_medium=banner&utm_term=Guardians+Gala+offers&utm_content=Guardians+Gala+offers
ok, 30 bucks for 235M in game item....(the pack with cynabal/dramiel/machariel)
but WHY? do you think (ccp) that players are dumb enough to buy it? seriously!
if it's not a fail, please explain me! |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1236
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Posted - 2017.02.17 01:22:03 -
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It's still 3 PLEX for $10 off.. the skins are a good deal because they basically come free with that..
@lunettelulu7
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slphy vansyl
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2017.02.17 01:26:12 -
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i dont see plex in the angel skin pack... not the one with the 3 plex, the second one... |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1237
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Posted - 2017.02.17 01:31:18 -
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slphy vansyl wrote:i dont see plex in the angel skin pack... not the one with the 3 plex, the second one...
Oh I see what you mean. Yeah that's awful buy the 3 PLEX pack instead
They always want too much for their NEX or Aurum or whatever.
@lunettelulu7
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Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
202
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Posted - 2017.02.17 02:19:04 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:slphy vansyl wrote:i dont see plex in the angel skin pack... not the one with the 3 plex, the second one... Oh I see what you mean. Yeah that's awful buy the 3 PLEX pack instead They always want too much for their NEX or Aurum or whatever.
yeah, the angels skins where the only ones I really wanted from this event anyways. and getting 10 dollars off the plex was a good enough deal to be worth jumping on.
also means that I have little to no reason to actually run this event anymore except if i'm bored.
all in all not terribly impressed, was kinda fun for a few hours of diversion doing something a little different, but that was about it. if the drop rate of the drugs was increased that might be enough added motivation to get back out there, but after running 20 odd sites and not seeing anything there isn't much incentive left. |
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Cade Windstalker
820
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Posted - 2017.02.17 02:31:10 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm just saying that there have certainly been better variants of these events, and that this one falls on the lower end of the spectrum. This is just my opinion - no one is under any obligation to agree or disagree. And if you're in the group that is enjoying the event, more power to you. o7
Nah, I don't disagree with this. As these events go this one seems to have about the least variety to it, and is very cookie cutter.
That said, I don't think it's a bad event or that they shouldn't have done it unless they could put more into it. Even if they added 3-4 more site setups or spawn configurations that'd get me about 2-3 more hours of interest out of it.
Also I love the idea of a sort of Gurista's easter event just for that pun... xD |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5610
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Posted - 2017.02.17 02:38:08 -
[42] - Quote
Looks like they cut back the frequency of the events with the last patch, too.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58547
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Posted - 2017.02.17 03:02:53 -
[43] - Quote
Actually as others have said, the 3 PLEX with the Angel skins is a pretty good deal. The skins are free and the 3 PLEX cost a little over $16 each.
I bought it to boost my in-game wallet and since I already have those 3 ships bling fitted, I might as well finish their fitting with some special skins.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels
126
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Posted - 2017.02.17 03:44:36 -
[44] - Quote
Yep they're trash. They're pretty easy in a gnosis for alphas though. Plenty of mid slots for tracking computers. I use beam lasers and warp in at 30-50km. With two tracking speed scripts the frigates are pretty easy. They're still the hardest part. Cruiser and bc are easy kills.
But yeah I had a few stolen from me because ships can just show up and one shot the bc and it takes me 5-7 hits with imperial navy multifrequency. If they were made for alphas only alphas should have been able to warp to the beacons so i doubt they were made with alphas in mind because they aren't dropping anything good and are just sort of a time sink. I'd rather go do a den or drone site that will drop 50-100m and buy whatever skin i want from the event. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
465
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Posted - 2017.02.17 05:10:13 -
[45] - Quote
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Yep they're trash. They're pretty easy in a gnosis for alphas though. Plenty of mid slots for tracking computers. I use beam lasers and warp in at 30-50km. With two tracking speed scripts the frigates are pretty easy. They're still the hardest part. Cruiser and bc are easy kills.
But yeah I had a few stolen from me because ships can just show up and one shot the bc and it takes me 5-7 hits with imperial navy multifrequency. If they were made for alphas only alphas should have been able to warp to the beacons so i doubt they were made with alphas in mind because they aren't dropping anything good and are just sort of a time sink. I'd rather go do a den or drone site that will drop 50-100m and buy whatever skin i want from the event.
I think they are only dropping the skins because that is what they are meant for. It would mess up the market for them to drop other stuff. And the bounties are low because if they were better it would contribute to isk inflation. Skins don't really add anything but cosmetics to the game so flooding us with those doesn't hurt anything.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1243
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Posted - 2017.02.17 05:28:33 -
[46] - Quote
I don't agree with calling these sites a fail or trash. They are super easy and the reward matches the effort involved. If you are a good Eve player, you know the real reason for these sites is to get people to actually undock and play, hopefully against each other even in highsec suspect flagging situations...
@lunettelulu7
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Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
46898
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Posted - 2017.02.17 05:34:31 -
[47] - Quote
Normally I dislike pve in EVE. I avoid that sort of play as much as possible because it's boring.
These vents are different. Quick, straight forward and a reasonable reward at the end.
As someone that normally prefers pvp, my view of this event, like the other similar ones, is the opposite of fail. A big success. |
Cygnus Veram
University of Caille
1
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Posted - 2017.02.17 08:28:14 -
[48] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Normally I dislike pve in EVE and avoid that sort of play as much as possible because it's boring.
These events are different. Quick, straight forward and a reasonable reward at the end.
As someone that normally prefers pvp, my view of this event, like the other similar ones, is the opposite of fail. A big success.
This is an important distinction.
PVPers go "hey, easy to digest content that doesn't require standing or anything and you can just do for a bit of variety and the income is a nice bonus"
PVEers go "MUST HAVE MORE CONTENT, WHY DOESN'T IT PAY MORE! ALSO COMPETITIONS SUCKS"
Goes to show that PVErs are used to lots and lots of content updates because that's how other MMO's do it and because of that they will never be satiated and CCP won't ever be able to keep them spoon fed with content they'll appreciate for more than a short period of time. Should be a sign for CCP to perhaps not focus too much on what PVErs have to say. |
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
2
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Posted - 2017.02.17 08:53:54 -
[49] - Quote
Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff;
In high sec - flip canning; In low sec / null sec - I have never seen so many ppl camping systems with small ship or recon ships just to hunt down guys warping to a Gala site for a Skin;
This event AGAIN been made for a PVP reason;
1-st day were great - many sites just spawn around - should find 1-2 after 1-2 jumps; Yesterday and day before yesterday I barelly could find any jumping 5j around;
This Event would be nice if there would be more sites to do but ... like I said it is made only for PvP players so they can gang others or camp systems for ez targets.
regards NN |
Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
46902
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Posted - 2017.02.17 09:03:59 -
[50] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:In low sec / null sec - I have never seen so many ppl camping systems with small ship or recon ships just to hunt down guys warping to a Gala site for a Skin; ...
This Event would be nice if there would be more sites to do but ... like I said it is made only for PvP players so they can gang others or camp systems for ez targets. Move to a different area.
I haven't been lucky enough to have anyone else warp in on me yet. Wouldn't mind it if it happened, but some there are a lot of sites available to run in some areas. |
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5614
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Posted - 2017.02.17 09:38:32 -
[51] - Quote
I like how all of the die-hard PvP players come in at the end to trash everyone and turn this (once again) into a PvE vs. PVP issue. I never said that I loathed any PvP or competition aspects, and in fact - player interaction was one of the only two saving graces for this event. But that's fine - keep driving a wegde. Someday you'll get your wish of having fewer players in this game...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
46903
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Posted - 2017.02.17 09:43:20 -
[52] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:I like how all of the die-hard PvP players come in at the end to trash everyone and turn this (once again) into a PvE vs. PVP issue. I never said that I loathed any PvP or competition aspects, and in fact - player interaction was one of the only two saving graces for this event. But that's fine - keep driving a wegde. Someday you'll get your wish of having fewer players in this game... Excuse me?
Is this the end of the thread and who's trashing anyone? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5614
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Posted - 2017.02.17 09:45:12 -
[53] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Is this the end of the thread and who's trashing anyone? It is for me, anyway.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Scipio Artelius
The Scope Gallente Federation
46903
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Posted - 2017.02.17 09:47:40 -
[54] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Is this the end of the thread and who's trashing anyone? It is for me, anyway. You're trashing people?
Then stop. It's not hard. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels
127
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Posted - 2017.02.17 12:25:45 -
[55] - Quote
Tuttomenui II wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Yep they're trash. They're pretty easy in a gnosis for alphas though. Plenty of mid slots for tracking computers. I use beam lasers and warp in at 30-50km. With two tracking speed scripts the frigates are pretty easy. They're still the hardest part. Cruiser and bc are easy kills.
But yeah I had a few stolen from me because ships can just show up and one shot the bc and it takes me 5-7 hits with imperial navy multifrequency. If they were made for alphas only alphas should have been able to warp to the beacons so i doubt they were made with alphas in mind because they aren't dropping anything good and are just sort of a time sink. I'd rather go do a den or drone site that will drop 50-100m and buy whatever skin i want from the event. I think they are only dropping the skins because that is what they are meant for. It would mess up the market for them to drop other stuff. And the bounties are low because if they were better it would contribute to isk inflation. Skins don't really add anything but cosmetics to the game so flooding us with those doesn't hurt anything. There were plex dropping in the last event from what I've been told in addition to clothes, quads and possibly boosters but im not sure about the boosters. |
Cygnus Veram
University of Caille
3
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Posted - 2017.02.17 16:03:42 -
[56] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff;
They made PVE content in a PVP sandbox.
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Cade Windstalker
825
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Posted - 2017.02.17 16:21:38 -
[57] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Looks like they cut back the frequency of the events with the last patch, too.
I don't think so, I've had about the same success as the previous event in finding sites, which is to say almost none until you get at least a little off the beaten path. |
Foxstar Damaskeenus
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
292
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Posted - 2017.02.17 19:52:48 -
[58] - Quote
Every event there are people complaining like this. I guarantee the original poster blew 5 or 6 guys before making this post.
"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath
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ApexDynamo
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2017.02.17 20:39:50 -
[59] - Quote
I havent seen a single booster drop yet from any of the sites ive run. but at same time too i usually just give the skins away.
least we aint grinding for cans like shadow of the serpentis :) |
Salvos Rhoska
2170
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Posted - 2017.02.17 20:44:40 -
[60] - Quote
Its largely an occasionally competitive or combative SKIN harvest.
It hasn't failed at what it is.
Could be more, but it does what it does.
PvE v PvP
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Satchel Darkmatter
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
50
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Posted - 2017.02.18 09:28:00 -
[61] - Quote
This event sucked balls.
The Serpentis event was a lot better, looked more epic, had more things to shoot and rewarded more/better loot, Ironically with this event the first wave is the most annoying and I suspect gave alpha pilots more hassle than the res of the ships that spawned after it.
What should have happened was this, the High Sec sites should have been visible to Alpha Pilots while the low sec and null sites should have been visible to everyone, another ironic thing was that tons of Null and Low Sec players left null and low sec en masse to complete these sites in Highsec which screwed the alpha's even more.
CCP it's crystal clear this game is a PvP game, but that does not mean you need to **** all over any PvE elements , it can have good PvE and amazing PvP they are not mutually exclusive.
Basically pull your finger out your ass this **** was week as ****. |
Cygnus Veram
University of Caille
5
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Posted - 2017.02.18 09:42:27 -
[62] - Quote
Satchel Darkmatter wrote:CCP it's crystal clear this game is a PvP game, but that does not mean you need to **** all over any PvE elements
Yes, it does and should.
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Kaivarian Coste
Stellar Supply
100
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Posted - 2017.02.18 11:02:06 -
[63] - Quote
I think the event is all right. It doesn't spark my interest, but if I see a site and my system is empty, I'll run it. |
Kaivarian Coste
Stellar Supply
100
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Posted - 2017.02.18 11:05:12 -
[64] - Quote
Matthias Ancaladron wrote: There were plex dropping in the last event from what I've been told in addition to clothes, quads and possibly boosters but im not sure about the boosters.
What? For real??
If PLEX dropped, then this event would totally be worth it. |
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1325
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Posted - 2017.02.18 11:06:52 -
[65] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:For anyone at CCP listening, this event was a colossal fail. The good: GÇó Yay, some new free SKINs... GÇó Competition and interaction is always a good thing
The bad: GÇó Very rare drops for Angel SKINs (you have to basically buy these from CCP) GÇó No accelerators or really anything else for that matter (occasional synth drug doesn't count) GÇó No meta loot drops and salvage is practically worthless (I've done it just to kill time) GÇó These sites were apparently designed specifically for Alphas, yet most Alphas have no chance of clearing these in any kind of reasonable timeframe before an Omega swoops in and clears it. Case 1: A Corax that dragged the first wave of frigates out to 100km+. Case 2: A Gnosis that had little if any chance of hitting the frigate wave. Too many other examples to list, but I never lost a single site to an Alpha or saw an Alpha actually get the prize, for that matter.
I'm sure others have points that I've missed...
the event is cool, you are stupid
Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
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Salvos Rhoska
2186
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Posted - 2017.02.18 11:09:34 -
[66] - Quote
What do you guys expect for destroying 5 frigs, 5 cruisers and a BC, that spawn all over the place?
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Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2017.02.18 12:10:34 -
[67] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm just saying that there have certainly been better variants of these events, and that this one falls on the lower end of the spectrum. This is just my opinion - no one is under any obligation to agree or disagree. And if you're in the group that is enjoying the event, more power to you. o7
I do agree that this is certainly one of their weaker efforts. It is also quite a frustrating experience for alpha skilled players, although ostensibly for them, it takes a while, and they get contested so often, they either become easy kills or frustrated at losing the prize.
I will not judge as to whether it meets CCP's goals, but as an omega, the prizes are not really worth the effort of running more than occasionally, and certainly not enough to log on especially to run these sites.
They may of course be trying to establish just how low the rewards can go, and still get activity, the danger however is players get jaded and don't bother next time.
But free stuff is free stuff, if it is worth the effort of picking up, but it's a close thing this time. |
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2017.02.18 12:38:14 -
[68] - Quote
Cygnus Veram wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff; They made PVE content in a PVP sandbox.
You do realise what sandbox means? It certainly does not mean everyone has to play according to your PERSONAL preconception.
But if that is your view, when you log on, please feel free to imagine that you are playing in your own Personal PVP sandbox, just be aware that most people will be playing in entirely their own way, and messing it up for you, as they are meant to, you know, as in the phrase, "sandbox" |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
703
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Posted - 2017.02.18 13:32:08 -
[69] - Quote
Alderson Point wrote:Cygnus Veram wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff; They made PVE content in a PVP sandbox. You do realise what sandbox means? It certainly does not mean everyone has to play according to your PERSONAL preconception. But if that is your view, when you log on, please feel free to imagine that you are playing in your own Personal PVP sandbox, just be aware that most people will be playing in entirely their own way, and messing it up for you, as they are meant to, you know, as in the phrase, "sandbox"
so you dont agree that EvE is a PvP sandbox game?
Just Add Water
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Cygnus Veram
University of Caille
5
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Posted - 2017.02.18 14:41:16 -
[70] - Quote
Alderson Point wrote:Cygnus Veram wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff; They made PVE content in a PVP sandbox. You do realise what sandbox means? It certainly does not mean everyone has to play according to your PERSONAL preconception. But if that is your view, when you log on, please feel free to imagine that you are playing in your own Personal PVP sandbox, just be aware that most people will be playing in entirely their own way, and messing it up for you, as they are meant to, you know, as in the phrase, "sandbox"
You conveniently left out something important.
PVP sandbox. PVP is not optional. |
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
2
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Posted - 2017.02.19 01:42:01 -
[71] - Quote
Cygnus Veram wrote:Alderson Point wrote:Cygnus Veram wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Do you think that CCP made this content for PVE? HAHA Hell not; They made it only for PVP stuff; They made PVE content in a PVP sandbox. You do realise what sandbox means? It certainly does not mean everyone has to play according to your PERSONAL preconception. But if that is your view, when you log on, please feel free to imagine that you are playing in your own Personal PVP sandbox, just be aware that most people will be playing in entirely their own way, and messing it up for you, as they are meant to, you know, as in the phrase, "sandbox" You conveniently left out something important. PVP sandbox. PVP is not optional.
PVP sandbox? PVP is not optional? Say wot? That denies a meaning of "Sandbox"; |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5636
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Posted - 2017.02.19 01:54:25 -
[72] - Quote
It never ceases to amaze me how any constructive criticism of content turns into "EVE isn't PvE", "PvP 'real' players vs. PvE carebears", "EVE is a PvP sandbox" and "HTFU or GTFO n00b".
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Liafcipe9000
ShekelSquad Interhole Revenue Service
37312
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Posted - 2017.02.19 08:41:49 -
[73] - Quote
a thrasher with shield buffer and fusion ammo should be able to complete such a site. but just because these are said to be doable with an alpha doesn't mean alpha pilots will complete them, nor did anyone say they will be easy for everyone. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3856
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Posted - 2017.02.19 09:08:15 -
[74] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:a thrasher with shield buffer and fusion ammo should be able to complete such a site. but just because these are said to be doable with an alpha doesn't mean alpha pilots will complete them, nor did anyone say they will be easy for everyone. Please, stream trying these sites in such a ship and see how well it goes. The frigates are on level with incursion frigates from what I know, meaning they hit hard and fast. Alpha pilots 'can' do the sites, but not casually. Which is fine. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
47080
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Posted - 2017.02.19 09:25:17 -
[75] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:... "EVE is a PvP sandbox" ... It's just a statement of fact. Not a statement that PVE doesn't exist.
CCP's description (which has been linked many times over the last couple of years, because people still refuse to understand the nature of the game):
The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
472
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Posted - 2017.02.19 10:18:10 -
[76] - Quote
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Liafcipe9000 wrote:a thrasher with shield buffer and fusion ammo should be able to complete such a site. but just because these are said to be doable with an alpha doesn't mean alpha pilots will complete them, nor did anyone say they will be easy for everyone. Please, stream trying these sites in such a ship and see how well it goes. The frigates are on level with incursion frigates from what I know, meaning they hit hard and fast. Alpha pilots 'can' do the sites, but not casually. Which is fine.
I am alpha and I do them casually, whatever that means. I can tank those frigates all day in my gnosis, and that is only using 3 low slots for tank. Could probably do it only using 2 slots for tank. Whenever you guys mention Alphas you always refer to them as if they are newbros. Seriously need a new term, Alpha is all encompassing newbros and veteran players. The biggest challenge is winning the bc wreck ownership when you get contested by other players. You just have to know the mechanics to get past that challenge. Although Omegas who also play by the mechanics can not really be beat when it comes to winning the wreck ownership.
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
2
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Posted - 2017.02.19 11:20:53 -
[77] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:... "EVE is a PvP sandbox" ... It's just a statement of fact. Not a statement that PVE doesn't exist. CCP's description (which has been linked many times over the last couple of years, because people still refuse to understand the nature of the game): The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment.
U failed:
Quote:This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core. If the other pilot had no right to attack you then CONCORD will track him down and punish him for his crimes, so long as the attack took place in high security space.
That means any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden. But CCP screw their mechanic just to please only one side of ppl playing - PVPers; That Gankers avoid or break the game mechanic rules to keep them doing that without any punishment at all; |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2017.02.19 18:03:09 -
[78] - Quote
Anyone know about the 3 missing skins? the Talos, Anshar and Itty 5? |
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
614
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Posted - 2017.02.19 18:12:46 -
[79] - Quote
Decaneos wrote:Anyone know about the 3 missing skins? the Talos, Anshar and Itty 5?
I was wondering more about the missing Angel Battlecruiser Hull. Its an inflated cynabal. They coulda skinned a cyclone or hurricane and put the angel ticker on it and it woulda worked at least a little. Lore could even say the angels stole the hull and repurposed it as other pirates have done with other vessels. IMO basing an event around a race that doesn't even have its shipline hashed out is poor business practice and only offers to shine light on CCP's rather spotty development abilities.
Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
47089
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Posted - 2017.02.19 20:44:52 -
[80] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:That means any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden. Strange. You used to be a ganker, so you'd know better than I do that ganking is not forbidden. There are just consequences for it that are different than the consequences of pvp in lowsec or null,duels or wardecs.
Not sure where the idea that ganking having consequences means the game isn't a fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment (CCP's words) comes from though. |
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ISD Buldath
1095
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Posted - 2017.02.19 21:59:04 -
[81] - Quote
For people receiving nasty or harassing EVE-Mails, sharing them on he forums is not how you deal with it.
Putting in a ticket to CCP and letting the GM's Handle it, is how you deal with it.
Now you know. Also removed post regarding above.
~ISD Buldath
Instructor King of the Forums! Knight of the General Discussion
Support, Training and Resources Division
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to EVE-Mails regarding forum moderation.
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
3
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Posted - 2017.02.20 12:33:59 -
[82] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:That means any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden. Strange. You used to be a ganker, so you'd know better than I do that ganking is not forbidden. There are just consequences for it that are different than the consequences of pvp in lowsec or null,duels or wardecs. Not sure where the idea that ganking having consequences means the game isn't a fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment (CCP's words) comes from though.
Show me where i ganged someon in high sec :)
Scipio Artelius wrote: fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment.
Were looking for it but can't find it ;)
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Major Trant
Radchak's Raiders
1602
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Posted - 2017.02.20 13:36:07 -
[83] - Quote
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Yep they're trash. They're pretty easy in a gnosis for alphas though. Plenty of mid slots for tracking computers. I use beam lasers and warp in at 30-50km. With two tracking speed scripts the frigates are pretty easy. They're still the hardest part. Cruiser and bc are easy kills.
But yeah I had a few stolen from me because ships can just show up and one shot the bc and it takes me 5-7 hits with imperial navy multifrequency. If they were made for alphas only alphas should have been able to warp to the beacons so i doubt they were made with alphas in mind because they aren't dropping anything good and are just sort of a time sink. I'd rather go do a den or drone site that will drop 50-100m and buy whatever skin i want from the event. I think they are only dropping the skins because that is what they are meant for. It would mess up the market for them to drop other stuff. And the bounties are low because if they were better it would contribute to isk inflation. Skins don't really add anything but cosmetics to the game so flooding us with those doesn't hurt anything. There were plex dropping in the last event from what I've been told in addition to clothes, quads and possibly boosters but im not sure about the boosters. There were no PLEX dropping in that or any other event. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5673
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Posted - 2017.02.20 13:56:52 -
[84] - Quote
Major Trant wrote:There were no PLEX dropping in that or any other event. There's been at least one event where PLEX was one of the possible rewards that dropped.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1122
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Posted - 2017.02.20 14:25:47 -
[85] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:Decaneos wrote:Anyone know about the 3 missing skins? the Talos, Anshar and Itty 5? I was wondering more about the missing Angel Battlecruiser Hull. Its an inflated cynabal. They coulda skinned a cyclone or hurricane and put the angel ticker on it and it woulda worked at least a little. Lore could even say the angels stole the hull and repurposed it as other pirates have done with other vessels. IMO basing an event around a race that doesn't even have its shipline hashed out is poor business practice and only offers to shine light on CCP's rather spotty development abilities.
Angel BC's USED to be modeled after the Cyclone. Some time ago, all Angel BC's were given the Cynabal model, likely a stopgap measure implemented due to issues with getting SKINs to play nice with certain hull designs.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1284
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Posted - 2017.02.21 03:18:42 -
[86] - Quote
Major Trant wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Yep they're trash. They're pretty easy in a gnosis for alphas though. Plenty of mid slots for tracking computers. I use beam lasers and warp in at 30-50km. With two tracking speed scripts the frigates are pretty easy. They're still the hardest part. Cruiser and bc are easy kills.
But yeah I had a few stolen from me because ships can just show up and one shot the bc and it takes me 5-7 hits with imperial navy multifrequency. If they were made for alphas only alphas should have been able to warp to the beacons so i doubt they were made with alphas in mind because they aren't dropping anything good and are just sort of a time sink. I'd rather go do a den or drone site that will drop 50-100m and buy whatever skin i want from the event. I think they are only dropping the skins because that is what they are meant for. It would mess up the market for them to drop other stuff. And the bounties are low because if they were better it would contribute to isk inflation. Skins don't really add anything but cosmetics to the game so flooding us with those doesn't hurt anything. There were plex dropping in the last event from what I've been told in addition to clothes, quads and possibly boosters but im not sure about the boosters. There were no PLEX dropping in that or any other event. Sorry Trant you are incorrect. PLEX and MCTs both dropped from one of the events last year. I got several myself and had thought it bogus until one did drop for me. Trying to remember if it was the BR or the Serp one that did it.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47106
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Posted - 2017.02.21 05:45:01 -
[87] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Show me where i ganged someon in high sec :) This Bestower in Kaunokka: https://zkillboard.com/kill/5023328/ You were killed immediately afterwards, in the same minute, by the Caldari Sentry Guns: https://zkillboard.com/kill/5023330/
This is pre-CREST verified killmails, so your fit is not included, but the Bestower kill shows you firing Scourge Fury Heavy Missiles.
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment.
Were looking for it but can't find it ;) https://puu.sh/ucJ7n/3865d1799d.png
there's also this bit:
https://puu.sh/ucJ8S/5ec61bf960.png |
Otago Dogwalker
The Scope Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2017.02.21 06:24:17 -
[88] - Quote
The event is only dropping skins as it is, to all intents and purposes, a business function. One of those mind numbing do's where they sit you by the bins unless your "team" has sold the most paper this year.
At least the Angels aren't dropping looted hotel towels and mini soaps...
BTW these sites are easy in an Algos, 5 drones and 3 Rails. No probs...
Otago
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Jamie Munba
Tradex Inc
2
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Posted - 2017.02.21 13:26:26 -
[89] - Quote
I decided to run a Cpl of these as there were like 20 stacked up in null over 10 systems, I did 3 and got bored, and ended up with 30m for the three.
I can see them being good for the alphas, there were 10 in between 2 systems, good isk for an alpha but not enough to keep me interested.
I trade for isk, risk ships for isk, it's all about the space pennies baby! Billionaire living, Trillionaire dreaming!!
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
4
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Posted - 2017.02.22 15:07:13 -
[90] - Quote
Now it start respawning like hell...
Anyway to everyone who says "EVE IS PVP CORE GAME";
I have a realy simple question; How u get ISK u little PVPer for all of your ships? or How u get a ships for your PVP stuff? (including modules, ammo etc) and don't try to lie to me because at the very begining u had to do and probably still u have to do PVE stuff to earn ISK for ships/modules/ammo;
All that hardcore SOV Null sec Alliances - why they hold theirs a little piece of space? FOR ANOMALIES , ISK - RATTING, simple as that. |
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Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
18
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Posted - 2017.02.22 15:20:52 -
[91] - Quote
Otago Dogwalker wrote:The event is only dropping skins as it is, to all intents and purposes, a business function. One of those mind numbing do's where they sit you by the bins unless your "team" has sold the most paper this year. At least the Angels aren't dropping looted hotel towels and mini soaps... BTW these sites are easy in an Algos, 5 drones and 3 Rails. No probs... Otago
I was running them in a tristan with no guns (fitted for FW pvp).
Not time efficient, but a way to kill time while waiting on a fleet to form up. |
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
18
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Posted - 2017.02.22 15:23:31 -
[92] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Now it start respawning like hell...
Anyway to everyone who says "EVE IS PVP CORE GAME";
I have a realy simple question; How u get ISK u little PVPer for all of your ships? or How u get a ships for your PVP stuff? (including modules, ammo etc) and don't try to lie to me because at the very begining u had to do and probably still u have to do PVE stuff to earn ISK for ships/modules/ammo;
All that hardcore SOV Null sec Alliances - why they hold theirs a little piece of space? FOR ANOMALIES , ISK - RATTING, simple as that.
Many view the market as PvP. You're not interacting with NPC's very often when you buy or sell products.
I'm by no means a market/manufacturing warrior... but I do station trade and I know others do the same to cover PvP losses. And if you view the market as a PvP arena then you are making isk through pvp to cover pvp losses. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5700
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Posted - 2017.02.22 16:12:25 -
[93] - Quote
Market bots aren't real people, either.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
19
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Posted - 2017.02.22 16:16:42 -
[94] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Market bots aren't real people, either.
It's still an account. Just like killing a bot miner is still recorded as PvP... competing against a bot in the market is still "market PvP". |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5703
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Posted - 2017.02.22 16:25:20 -
[95] - Quote
Scialt wrote:It's still an account. Just like killing a bot miner is still recorded as PvP... competing against a bot in the market is still "market PvP". These scenarios aren't PvP - they're PvE. There's no difference between server-side AI actions and client-side AI actions. If fact, the "bot" could be sitting on a server in a data center halfway around the world from where the "player" is. Even competing against "real" players in the marketplace is stretching the definition of PvP.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Trevize Demerzel
68
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Posted - 2017.02.22 16:32:35 -
[96] - Quote
I run the sites in null...
I've an over supply of Corvette skins.. Cause ya know everybody in null flies Corvettes....
:-)
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Nivek Rensir
The Devils Syndicate INTERNET SPACESHIP.
0
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Posted - 2017.02.22 16:53:59 -
[97] - Quote
Hi everyone, so far I am enjoying the Gala event. I have done over 40 of the sites now and enjoy getting all the FREE skins. While I have yet to get a drug drop, the fact that i am getting free skins for just heading out and spending a few minutes of my time completely compensates for that. I'm not sure why so many people are complaining here. CCP doesn't have to do this. They are free skins for extremely minimal time allotment. You don't have to do the event. If you don't like the skins then move on, there's plenty more content for you out there. They are creating content that is quick and easy to accomplish in any part of Eve. Seems like a bunch of carebears crying that they don't get leet gear for nothing. Its extra content that has been put out there so people, both alpha and omega, can get more skins for their ships. I for one am thankful for this. I just wish I had paid attention when the last events happened. Keep up the good work CCP. |
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
21
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Posted - 2017.02.22 17:27:19 -
[98] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Scialt wrote:It's still an account. Just like killing a bot miner is still recorded as PvP... competing against a bot in the market is still "market PvP". These scenarios aren't PvP - they're PvE. There's no difference between server-side AI actions and client-side AI actions. If fact, the "bot" could be sitting on a server in a data center halfway around the world from where the "player" is. Even competing against "real" players in the marketplace is stretching the definition of PvP.
I've heard of guys admitting to losing billions when another player screwed with the market of items they were heavily invested in. Not sure why that's any different then blowing up a ship and pod worth billions. It's just slower (and not my cup of tea either). I can't deny that players are competing against each other and some win while others lose.
And while I'm sure bots exist, I don't think they're anywhere near as prevalent as people think. And there's no way to tell if it's just me checking orders and updating prices in a .01 isk manner while watching netflix or a bot... the markets are full of "bot aspirant" behavior (to use a CODEism). |
Scialt
Universal Sanitation Corporation
21
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Posted - 2017.02.22 17:29:37 -
[99] - Quote
As for the skins... I'm pretty happy with them. I did enough sites to get the skins for the ships I commonly fly... and as I fly Gallente it's worked out pretty good for me (finally got the Ishtar and Dominix last night).
I really like the way the Tristan skin looks. |
Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
942
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Posted - 2017.02.22 17:40:36 -
[100] - Quote
You do realize this is a Valentines Day event right? It doesn't have the same oomph that other events might have.
Also, the SKINS are awesome, and a good reward for doing a site. Skill Boosters just make people more ravenous to complete these sites, which means there's less demand for them. In turn that means more chances for anyone who actually wants to run them to get a shot at it. |
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Otago Dogwalker
The Scope Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2017.02.23 05:11:30 -
[101] - Quote
It makes me laugh to see people moaning that this event is boring, epic fail and the rest.
The times i've seen a Gila or a Rattler clearing a Guardian Gala site, done in two seconds. The exact sort of people who are like "oh, this event is rubbish", "PvE is dying" and all the other cobblers.
Try challenging yourselves and have fun with the site. CCP provides the framework, we, the content. Run these with an unusual fit, frigate or Algos, not just warp round a region blitzing every site.
Just how I see it...
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5717
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Posted - 2017.02.23 05:55:21 -
[102] - Quote
The event is boring and the vast majority of SKINs are worthless. And truth be told, the SKINs really aren't that great, either. Even Alphas won't run the sites now - which is why you'll usually find 2-3 of the beacons in any system at any given time. But hey, if you're enjoying the event - knock yourself out. Some of us just remember the other events that were a lot more exciting.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1533
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Posted - 2017.02.23 06:33:59 -
[103] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Scialt wrote:It's still an account. Just like killing a bot miner is still recorded as PvP... competing against a bot in the market is still "market PvP". These scenarios aren't PvP - they're PvE. I agree. Miners aren't really players.
Killing a miner should be refered to as PvE, becuase they are just part of the environment. They have no real intelligence and aren't engaged in the play at all.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
4
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Posted - 2017.02.23 07:43:03 -
[104] - Quote
Really? u are showing me a kill from 2008?
About the link what u mentioned
https://puu.sh/ucJXb/44438a1116.png -> there are few more abilities than just reading - it's called also an UNDERSTANDING; CCP did not said "EVE IS A PVP SANDBOX GAME" they said "Eve is a pvp game IN SANDBOX WORLD" (well guess what . WoW is also a pvp game in sandbox world - well hell ALL THE MMO are that! hello to the world!)
And i already placed u another statment which is more correct that your funstories.
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
4
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Posted - 2017.02.23 07:43:49 -
[105] - Quote
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Scialt wrote:It's still an account. Just like killing a bot miner is still recorded as PvP... competing against a bot in the market is still "market PvP". These scenarios aren't PvP - they're PvE. I agree. Miners aren't really players. Killing a miner should be refered to as PvE, becuase they are just part of the environment. They have no real intelligence and aren't engaged in the play at all.
Hope so you are trolling cause without a miner u won't even get an a rifter; |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5729
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Posted - 2017.02.23 10:50:06 -
[106] - Quote
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:I agree. Miners aren't really players.
Killing a miner should be refered to as PvE, becuase they are just part of the environment. They have no real intelligence and aren't engaged in the play at all. I can't tell if you're serious or just being facetious... But yes, mining is one of those borderline styles of PvE play which also extend to trading and planetary interaction. I wouldn't cllassify these as unintelligent but rather, "less immersive".
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47116
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Posted - 2017.02.23 11:00:58 -
[107] - Quote
Naye Nathaniel wrote:Really? u are showing me a kill from 2008? About the link what u mentioned https://puu.sh/ucJXb/44438a1116.png -> there are few more abilities than just reading - it's called also an UNDERSTANDING; CCP did not said "EVE IS A PVP SANDBOX GAME" they said "Eve is a pvp game IN SANDBOX WORLD" (well guess what . WoW is also a pvp game in sandbox world - well hell ALL THE MMO are that! hello to the world!) And i already placed u another statment which is more correct that your funstories. You asked for proof that you had ganked someone in highsec. You got proof. You were a ganker at one point.
As to what CCP have said, they didn't say either of what you've written there. They said as quoted earlier:
"The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is a fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish"
That is in stark contract to your claim earlier that "any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden."
Ganking is not forbidden. It's perfectly allowed within the rules of the game. You've been a ganker, so should know this already. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5729
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Posted - 2017.02.23 11:08:05 -
[108] - Quote
Not entirely sure how a thread about the Guardian's Gala event turned into another ganking discussion, but carry-on...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
6
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Posted - 2017.02.23 11:30:01 -
[109] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Really? u are showing me a kill from 2008? About the link what u mentioned https://puu.sh/ucJXb/44438a1116.png -> there are few more abilities than just reading - it's called also an UNDERSTANDING; CCP did not said "EVE IS A PVP SANDBOX GAME" they said "Eve is a pvp game IN SANDBOX WORLD" (well guess what . WoW is also a pvp game in sandbox world - well hell ALL THE MMO are that! hello to the world!) And i already placed u another statment which is more correct that your funstories. You asked for proof that you had ganked someone in highsec. You got proof. You were a ganker at one point. As to what CCP have said, they didn't say either of what you've written there (and neither did I). They said as quoted earlier: "The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is a fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish"That is in stark contract to your claim earlier that " any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden." Ganking is not forbidden. It's perfectly allowed within the rules of the game. You've been a ganker, so should know this already.
Let's make it clear; Since when saying "Eve is a PVP game"; Means: Ganking others in high sec is alowed as if im not wrong I already give you a proof its not?
And yeah... this is not a topic about ganking others... Im just bitching the gala sites stops spawning but it like to spawn again since 2 days ago; Can;t get it;
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59467
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Posted - 2017.02.23 12:42:41 -
[110] - Quote
Sorry for going off topic but I gotta respond to this.
Scipio Artelius wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Really? u are showing me a kill from 2008? About the link what u mentioned https://puu.sh/ucJXb/44438a1116.png -> there are few more abilities than just reading - it's called also an UNDERSTANDING; CCP did not said "EVE IS A PVP SANDBOX GAME" they said "Eve is a pvp game IN SANDBOX WORLD" (well guess what . WoW is also a pvp game in sandbox world - well hell ALL THE MMO are that! hello to the world!) And i already placed u another statment which is more correct that your funstories. You asked for proof that you had ganked someone in highsec. You got proof. You were a ganker at one point. As to what CCP have said, they didn't say either of what you've written there (and neither did I). They said as quoted earlier: "The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is a fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish"That is in stark contract to your claim earlier that " any behavior of ganking others in High sec space is forbidden." Ganking is not forbidden. It's perfectly allowed within the rules of the game. You've been a ganker, so should know this already. Dude, you're stretching it quite thin now. He said forbidden, not prohibited.
If it was prohibited in Empire space, players wouldn't be able to do it. If it was allowed in Empire space, there wouldn't be any consequences for that action. Plain and simple, it's forbidden by Empire law which means players can still do it but they'll suffer consequences for that action.
In high sec, Concord will dispense swift retribution and destroy the attacking ship. The attacker's security status is lowered and they're flagged as a criminal for 15 minutes allowing everyone to freely attack them.
In low sec, Gate / Station guns within range will fire on the attacker. The attacker's security status is lowered and they're flagged as a criminal for 15 minutes allowing everyone to freely attack them.
Bottom line, in Empire space all unjustified attacks on capsuleers is forbidden, not prohibited or allowed. Now if you're in null sec or w-space then it's allowed with no consequences whatsoever.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
64
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Posted - 2017.02.23 13:12:51 -
[111] - Quote
Ganking is not a gameplay issue. /thread |
pinkajoo
47
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Posted - 2017.02.23 13:28:24 -
[112] - Quote
@why ganking Haha, I was in an Alpha Gnosis the other day and I was doing these sites for a while. Then this Ishtar suddenly pops up @75km while I was on the last cruiser - just in time for the BC - what effing lucky timing. So as expected, he sniped the BC and the wreck was yellow to me.
But he was @65km. (Did he just assume im a carebear?!11!)
I turned off my safety, aligned and looted the yellow wreck and jumped out laughing! In hindsight, I should've typed GF in local.. He followed me for a bit, did the old keep-gate-cloak switcharoo as he assumed I warped off into another Gala site on one system and burned back to gate to backtrack to the past systems we jumped thru.
As I was logging off in a station, I saw his name pop up in local. Big smile.
There was a lot of times I could've been tackled at gates since I was a suspect, this particular sniper could've had a tackling alt nearby while we were back at that site, etc etc.. the event does generate opportunities for conflict and the means to 'settle' them. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47117
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Posted - 2017.02.23 16:14:57 -
[113] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Dude, you're stretching it quite thin now. He said forbidden, not prohibited.
If it was prohibited in Empire space, players wouldn't be able to do it. Hombre,
There may be some cultural difference in the understanding of forbidden. I'm not normally one to go to definitions, since that borders on pedantry. In this case, it explains well why I don't agree that pvp in highsec is forbidden: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/forbidden
DeMichael Crimson wrote:In low sec, Gate / Station guns within range will fire on the attacker. The attacker's security status is lowered and they're flagged as a criminal for 15 minutes allowing everyone to freely attack them. Incorrect. If you are going to quote mechanics, at least get them correct. If you activate a module against a pod in lowsec, you will be flagged criminal. if you just shoot a ship, you'll be flagged suspect. |
Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
953
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Posted - 2017.02.23 16:55:12 -
[114] - Quote
Shae Tadaruwa wrote: I agree. Miners aren't really players.
Killing a miner should be refered to as PvE, becuase they are just part of the environment. They have no real intelligence and aren't engaged in the play at all.
Your CODE. narrative is showing. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59505
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Posted - 2017.02.24 09:53:30 -
[115] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:In low sec, Gate / Station guns within range will fire on the attacker. The attacker's security status is lowered and they're flagged as a criminal for 15 minutes allowing everyone to freely attack them. Incorrect. If you are going to quote mechanics, at least get them correct. If you activate a module against a pod in lowsec, you will be flagged criminal. if you just shoot a ship, you'll be flagged suspect. OK, you're right on the flagging issue.
However you're still giving the wrong impression when you say doing an unprovoked attack on another Capsuleer in Empire space is allowed.
In-game there's Legal and Illegal Aggression
Aggression is legal if the target is in your corporation (friendly fire enabled), at war with your corporation, alliance or militia, has a security status of -5 or lower, has a suspect timer, has a criminal timer, or has a limited engagement timer with you. These targets can be engaged in any security level of space without any consequences. Any target that doesn't meet this criteria is an illegal target and will gain the following consequences depending on the security level of the space they're in.
In high security space (1.0 to 0.5): Security status loss Gain a criminal timer CONCORD destroys ship Sentry guns attack if within 150km range
In low security space (0.4 to 0.1): Security status loss Gain a suspect timer for attacking a ship Gain a criminal timer for attacking a capsule, Sentry guns attack if within 150km range
In null security space or wormholes: No consequences
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47121
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Posted - 2017.02.24 23:34:14 -
[116] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:However you're still giving the wrong impression when you say doing an unprovoked attack on another Capsuleer in Empire space is allowed.
In-game there's Legal and Illegal Aggression That's just a different use of words. I'm not saying there are no consequences. There are, but players are still allowed to shoot other players in highsec.
The guy claiming ganking is forbidden is now claiming its against the EULA. It clearly isn't. It's an allowed mechanic. There are consequences for doing it, but in CCP's own words (which is also quoted above - so not sure where the wrong impression would come from):
"...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish" |
Penance Toralen
Compass Fox
32
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Posted - 2017.02.25 00:43:48 -
[117] - Quote
It is something of a pity that a mechanic/event oriented towards Alphas did not have rewards equally orientated to their ship lineup. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
485
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Posted - 2017.02.25 00:46:42 -
[118] - Quote
Penance Toralen wrote:It is something of a pity that a mechanic/event oriented towards Alphas did not have rewards equally orientated to their ship lineup.
It wasn't oriented towards Alphas, it was oriented towards everyone. It was a delivery vehicle to give us the skins. That is all it was. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59519
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Posted - 2017.02.25 01:23:42 -
[119] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:However you're still giving the wrong impression when you say doing an unprovoked attack on another Capsuleer in Empire space is allowed.
In-game there's Legal and Illegal Aggression That's just a different use of words. I'm not saying there are no consequences. There are, but players are still allowed to shoot other players in highsec. The guy claiming ganking is forbidden is now claiming it's against the EULA. It clearly isn't. It's an allowed mechanic. There are consequences for doing it, but in CCP's own words (which is also quoted above - so not sure where the wrong impression would come from): "...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish" The wrong impression is when you say it's allowed which basically implies no consequences for that action.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47125
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Posted - 2017.02.25 09:47:11 -
[120] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: "...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish"
The wrong impression is when you say it's allowed which basically implies no consequences for that action. It could be expressed better, such as 'Players may shoot other players in high sec but will face consequences for unprovoked attacks.' Can't be written any clearer than the quote included, for the third time now.
But -»\_(pâä)_/-», how you interpret words doesn't mean that was my intent and from past experience, if I'd written something different, someone else would have interpreted it in the way that allows them to object, just like here.
It's why I generally go for quotes directly from CCP. If you want to argue with their words, go address them.
As for me, I'm happy to write that it is allowed to shoot anyone, anytime, anywhere, for whatever reason. Shooting other people is not forbidden anywhere in EVE (and certainly not against the EULA). There are consequences, but it's not forbidden. |
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Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
71
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Posted - 2017.02.25 14:56:56 -
[121] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:However you're still giving the wrong impression when you say doing an unprovoked attack on another Capsuleer in Empire space is allowed.
In-game there's Legal and Illegal Aggression That's just a different use of words. I'm not saying there are no consequences. There are, but players are still allowed to shoot other players in highsec. The guy claiming ganking is forbidden is now claiming it's against the EULA. It clearly isn't. It's an allowed mechanic. There are consequences for doing it, but in CCP's own words (which is also quoted above - so not sure where the wrong impression would come from): "...In highsec there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish" The wrong impression is when you say it's allowed which basically implies no consequences for that action. It could be expressed better, such as 'Players may shoot other players in high sec but will face consequences for unprovoked attacks.' DMC
CONCORD is a punishment if you attacked a target that wasn't worth a heck of a lot. There have been a lot of posts trying to deal with highsec aggression this past week, but they're all totally nuts, If you're undocked, you're unsafe, regardless of a CONCORD presence, |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5771
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Posted - 2017.02.25 15:04:36 -
[122] - Quote
I'm perfectly safe when I undock in high-sec. At least for 30 seconds anyway...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
487
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Posted - 2017.02.25 15:09:35 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm perfectly safe when I undock in high-sec. At least for 30 seconds anyway... longer at a citadel, until the owner revokes you that is. =)
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5775
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Posted - 2017.02.25 17:32:57 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:longer at a citadel, until the owner revokes you that is. =) I hear revoking access rights is the new meta...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1128
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Posted - 2017.02.25 18:03:00 -
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i think they are built around alpha clones in mind and that they would be better if CCP don't do that ever again.
Even in this state things could be done for them to look less spawny
ie all ships warp in don't materialize out from thin air...seriously 2000 was like 17 years ago and some randomness in NPC,s less frigs more cruisers in one battleship instead of battlecruiser as last one in other and so on.
Spawn sites at celestial s or objects for viewing experience
Skins are mostly fine but i wish there were navy skins my navy domy / phoon mega and tempest need some more skins.
My supply of geckos and genos is running thin...think about me will you...
"You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear"n++
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5775
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Posted - 2017.02.25 18:54:29 -
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I hear Alphas in local all the time complainng about getting sniped or simply not being able to complete these events. So yeah - I'm not sure why they this event was custom-tailored for them when they're obviously struggling with it. Look, I blitz these in around a minute with a polarized fit. I'm usually tractoring the wreck in by the time a handful of Alphas finish coming out of warp - so they have little to no chance of competing in these against a determined Omega player (nevermind the Omega snipers). Heck, I've seen Alphas struggling with these sites for over 10 minutes and I finally warped to the event to help them clear it...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
488
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Posted - 2017.02.26 00:13:20 -
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THEY ARE NOT TAILORED FOR ALPHAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides I am alpha (Maxed) and did just fine sniping them from omegas who didn't think about their fits with a blaster gnosis. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5778
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Posted - 2017.02.26 01:10:35 -
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Yes they were. Look, you can almost tank these events with a shuttle...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Lexx Devi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2017.03.06 14:45:20 -
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CCP, Love the Gala SKINs.
Why did you not add the Ninasu YC119 Guardian's Gala 'Spirit' SKIN?
It bugs me way to much its the odd skin out. "Bugs me" Everyday.
P.S. Your To Slow on the Faction Capitals I need to do some Rooks and Kings With the Blood Raider Nos'ing FAX. Waiting for more info, Don't worry about it We love to break so give everyone in eve 1 Gold chest of FAX So they can finally Equalize PL & their pet NC. |
Draeman Hookah
salty inc. Roadhouse Regulars
17
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Posted - 2017.03.06 17:54:51 -
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I thoroughly enjoyed the event. I'm an Omega as well and I stand to make well over 1 Bil in ISK. I didn't take much time out of my day either.
From a competition standpoint, I would leave a site that I saw was started by someone else and "steal" the loot if necessary from a site that was started by me and the BC destroyed by someone else. That was my mantra and it worked just fine. Easy enough to snag loot from someone who enters your site and steals your kill. And I was flying a Gnosis as well.
Sure it was definitely geared to be accessible to everyone but it definitely has some value for the work you put in. |
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