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Sadian
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:23:00 -
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Has anyone ever bought or used this skill? Not raised it up to level 2 etc. but actually used it market bought for some purpose. I know we are all born with it so I was wondering if there would ever be a reason to actually buy it. Same goes with the mining,learning and gunnery skills. Also has there ever been a reason given for not being able to delete skills?
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Emylissan
Gallente European Science Armada
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:33:00 -
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Not sure but when you become podkilled and than forget to gather a new clone before leave station and die again you may loose enough skillpoint to loose those starting skills...perhaps?
If not than i dont know either.
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:36:00 -
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Why would you even want to delete skills? The reason you CAN'T is because there is no reason to DO it.
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Pellaeon DuGalle
Caldari Deep Black Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:23:00 -
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Can't think of any reason to buy that skill. It was probably seeded on the market for completeness or for RP reasons.
Repeated poddings can decrease skill points to 0, but because it decrease the most highly trained skill first, chances are ALL your other skills will be around 0 by the time Spaceship Command hits 0. Thats a heck of a lot of poddings.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:51:00 -
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The basic clone is 900k, you should never loose your starting skills.
About deleting skills... Think about it, convince yourself to forget your name, where you live, who you know, how to walk. when you success in those, explain us how you did that! -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Flying Vexor and Ishkur, Myrmidon was too slow, got ganked by 3 BC and a Megathron... |
Hideki Kovacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac
About deleting skills... Think about it, convince yourself to forget your name, where you live, who you know, how to walk. when you success in those, explain us how you did that!
Ah, but that's not really a good comparison. What you describe would be creating a new character with the same portrait, not forgetting a skill.
What you're thinking of is like forgetting how to operate a forklift, or how to put that nifty edge on the piece of furniture you just built, or forgetting how to program a computer.
And in real life, while you may not lose the skill entirely, with lack of use (you can actively do that part) and time, you WOULD effectively lose a level or two. There's no way I can handle a forklift as well as I did the last time I drove one 15 years ago, I've forgotten most of what I learned in high school woodshop, and I barely remember anything about computer programming.
But the other point mentioned is still valid, it's not like there is a cap on skillpoints, so why would you want to forget a skill?
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Donathan Slade
Kay Korporation Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hideki Kovacs But the other point mentioned is still valid, it's not like there is a cap on skillpoints, so why would you want to forget a skill?
and spaceship command of ALL skills. You loose that, there goes the point of EVE. Because you wouldn't be able to fly anything besides your pod if you lose spaceship command. :P
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Ki Tarra
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 20/04/2007 19:04:12 Along the same lines, you could ask why Gunnery and Mining are on the market too. Every character has always started with thoose skills.
While you can lose SP due to an out-dated clone, you will only ever lose 50% of your SP on your highest trained skill. Even before the increase the free clone SP, you could never get a rank 1 skill to drop back below level 1 due to podding. With the improved clones, I doubt you could get it to drop below level 2.
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Ghan Tylous
Caldari The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:07:00 -
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RP wise, some skills are just basics for you to have. As mentioned above, without Spaceship Command skill you couldn't control a ship, without basic gunneryskills you can't shoot at people/defend yourself. R+ wise, some skills are mandetory (sp) to learn at the NPC academies. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Donathan Slade
Originally by: Hideki Kovacs But the other point mentioned is still valid, it's not like there is a cap on skillpoints, so why would you want to forget a skill?
and spaceship command of ALL skills. You loose that, there goes the point of EVE. Because you wouldn't be able to fly anything besides your pod if you lose spaceship command. :P
You could still fly any of the four race's shuttles.
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Donathan Slade
Kay Korporation Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:14:00 -
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Fine, be technical about shuttles! :P
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Sadian
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:02:00 -
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Very cool replies thanks. The reason I asked was because when I started to play this awesome game a year or so ago (had to quit for various RL reasons,I did not get too far into the game back then but I did enjoy it) I remembered that when I began back then we started out with about 3k skill points. But when I started to play again recently I had almost a million skill points at character creation. I did not (and do not) think that was very fair to those who came earlier and had to earn those points but no need to get into that. I just thought that perhaps since those basic skills were available on the market there might be a way to lower skill points enough to need them.
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.21 00:20:00 -
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When Revelations came out at the end of last year, character creation was revamped to give new players a better headstart. The old system gave you anywhere from barely any skillpoints at all to about 300k if you picked the right path.
The new system gives every path betweeen 800-810k skillpoints, and the ability to do basic game tasks without having to train for a week first.
Anyone that was under 800k skillpoints at the time of the patch was given a boost into that range. Players with more skills than that already were left alone.
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Why would you want to delete skills? It would only open the door for people to accidentally delete skills, then whine and petition and waste the GM's time getting them back. There is no skill cap, you're not locked into a particular path that excludes any skills from use, so there's no practical reason to be able to delete them, and plenty of reason not to be able to.
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Why it's available for purchase, I don't know. You probably would have a hard time selling it, too. Although, it might be funny to load a ship up with useless skillbooks as bait for a pirate...
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