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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Oro Sarmasa Easy solution: Pick and choose which alliances to wardec!
Really, if you can "only" wardec ten alliances at a time affordably, I will weep as many tears for you as I do for baseball players who "only" get thirty million dollars to play a game that children play for free.
10 Allainces would cost us a base price of 5.5 Billion per week.. just FYI.
And?
I can imagine you can afford it.
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AproK
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: panman
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: panman
Clearly your right, i remember ganking freelancer carriers with 5 battleships in pure blind, while the rest of the corp sat in stations or posses... Ill take pvp advice from someone else thank you
Just because we have a lot of carebears, doesn't mean all of us are entertained by veldspar. Some of us have a life outside of the alliance, you know
Great, but that dont make any sense..
But as for your roaming aspect...
Take a small gang of 5 to 10 players and go roam in MCs home systems.
Get back to me and tell me how it goes, seeing as MC use Carriers instead of battleships these days, and you will probably get doomsdayed by their friends in bob.
Then come back and whine on the forums and get doomsdays and MC nerfed
Their not goin to be able to get and tell how it works, they will probally die of lag anyways
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tressia I heard the privateers are going to begin whining also, at least more than they did previously.
adapt
QFT.
Don't whine, adapt. ------
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:47:00 -
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.. and yet amarr whine goes unnoticed but if lvl4 raven mission runners whines, CCP is there to rescue and make sure that nothing will happen to their precious ISK farmers.
Niiiiiice .. why do I even bother thinking of coming to FF2007
Proud member of Cult of War and Amarr 4tw Finnish people seeking PvP, contact me ingame!
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Mortuus
Minmatar Oblivion's Gate Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Mortuus on 17/04/2007 20:46:30 Wow, time to kill the fun.
So now my choices are low sec gate camping or back to 0.0 for the always exciting PoS safespot scandown. You know, where the moment someone enters local everyone hits the PoS until they can log on the carrier alt, get 6 people together, and run you out of a system.
0.0 PvP is boring and stupid and caters to the carebear, so does lowsec and now there is no real option.
I suppose we could always move every Privateer into a smaller area of EvE and wardec the most active people there.
And if you didn't know, we basically are non-profit =)
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:49:00 -
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Gonna have to agree with CCP here on this one. I've been at war with privateers for some time now, and I do agree with what they do -- the vast majority of my alliance doesn't. It is an innovative way to make use of game mechanics, and I'm happy to see CCP not calling it an exploit and handing out bans and such, but, while this game is focused primarily on PvP, Empire space is where people are meant to be safe from your average pirate; the police should not be there at all if they're just going to sit there idly while pirates freely kill anyone they please.
Maybe you guys will find another way around it, but know that if it gets out of hand like it is right now you'll just get nerfed again. ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standard Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless |
Bavinok
radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:50:00 -
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Ok well this don't just affect the Privateers. My conspiracy is this. A few corps and alliances hate BOB, and wish to pound them in empire, so they wardec them. Now has the wars had up on BOB the smaller corps can't afford the bill. So this is just another way the Dev's came out to help BOB.
LOL
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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mortuus Edited by: Mortuus on 17/04/2007 20:46:30 Wow, time to kill the fun.
So now my choices are low sec gate camping or back to 0.0 for the always exciting PoS safespot scandown. You know, where the moment someone enters local everyone hits the PoS until they can log on the carrier alt, get 6 people together, and run you out of a system.
0.0 PvP is boring and stupid and caters to the carebear, so does lowsec and now there is no real option.
I suppose we could always move every Privateer into a smaller area of EvE and wardec the most active people there.
And if you didn't know, we basically are non-profit =)
Wait, lowsec piracy is for carebears? Did I hear you correctly?
I guess REAL pirates just sat around in harbor after paying the authorities a few bucks, and shot down everything that lifted anchor, high fiving themselves for their awesomeness.
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Ki An
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:55:00 -
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It's a sad day for EvE.
Anyway, you should adapt. Adapt and become EXACTLY what everyone always accused you of being. Start griefing small industrial corps, and camp Jita 4-4 23/7, and just generally make life hell for all the carebear whiners. The uproar on the forums would make it all worth it.
/Ki
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Ragornok
Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:59:00 -
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Adapt? I fully intend to, and my mind is full of other options to continue the spirit of the Privateers regardless of what the name or technicalities may be. The fact that the nerf was pushed through so fast, convinces me that we must have had a real impact on something other than the forums. For those that weren't there for the glorious times we had, you missed a heck of a ride.
But the nerf isn't instituted yet, so we still have time for our swan song. And in the mean time, I think I'll start taking notes of all the freighter pilots I see in small empire corps, as there will be a lot of loot hauling in the future.
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Oro Sarmasa Easy solution: Pick and choose which alliances to wardec!
Really, if you can "only" wardec ten alliances at a time affordably, I will weep as many tears for you as I do for baseball players who "only" get thirty million dollars to play a game that children play for free.
10 Allainces would cost us a base price of 5.5 Billion per week.. just FYI.
And?
I can imagine you can afford it.
Wars are payed for by contracts - your allaince for exmaple my pay us to dec your enemies,
Corporations in our allaince pays for a war each
we are a non profit organistion. the wallet is not going to cover 270B a week to keep things the same lol
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Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Oro Sarmasa Easy solution: Pick and choose which alliances to wardec!
Really, if you can "only" wardec ten alliances at a time affordably, I will weep as many tears for you as I do for baseball players who "only" get thirty million dollars to play a game that children play for free.
10 Allainces would cost us a base price of 5.5 Billion per week.. just FYI.
And?
I can imagine you can afford it.
You're such an idiot. You obviously have no idea how PRVTR works. And you're in IAC.
Both good reasons to stfu.
--- Indigo Fade is now selling jumpclones for superb prices, please see Marquis Dean's bio and/or evemail/convo him ingame.
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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Oro Sarmasa Easy solution: Pick and choose which alliances to wardec!
Really, if you can "only" wardec ten alliances at a time affordably, I will weep as many tears for you as I do for baseball players who "only" get thirty million dollars to play a game that children play for free.
10 Allainces would cost us a base price of 5.5 Billion per week.. just FYI.
And?
I can imagine you can afford it.
Wars are payed for by contracts - your allaince for exmaple my pay us to dec your enemies,
Corporations in our allaince pays for a war each
we are a non profit organistion. the wallet is not going to cover 270B a week to keep things the same lol
I guess you have a point there.
BTW, my opinion in no way represents the alliance I'm under. It's just one tackler-grunt talking from his own experience.
You had a good run, but I think you guys just overfished the wardec thing a little too much. Come on, Joe Noob should actually make himself worth the wardec fee before getting ganked.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:01:00 -
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Just have the corps in the alliance make the war decs....set up a payment plan. Your clients want x number of people shooting the target so they have to pay for x number of your corperations war decs.
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:03:00 -
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We only decced the allainces - its was contracts which added the smaller corps to our lists.. and that was usualy smacktalk based lol (or a small empire griefer corp someone wanted off their back, )
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Nyabinghi
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:03:00 -
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As someone else said Privateers join the ranks of M0o as a group who has had enough of an impact on EVE to force a change, one for the better I feel, and therefor the Privs should pat themselves on the back for that accomplishment. No one should be surprised about this decision, if you didn't see it coming then you need to wake up and smell the synthetic coffee (what happened to Juan Valdez? I miss Earth).
Now if the Privateers maintained a strict policy of only interfering with the operations of Megacorps and colossal overpowered Alliances, like the founder said was his original plan, then there would have been no "carebear whine". However as so many corps saw it as a free ticket to easily pick on those weaker than themselves well...As you have seen the forums have filled with protest. I'm glad the adjustments to the war dec system are going to be made. War should have a meaningful purpose and shouldn't be engaged lightly. If people want to gank each other so bad go to 0.0 or go to low sec.
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Dzil
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:05:00 -
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The hypocrisy on this thread is hilarious.
I will say that most of the privateers are decent folks who just want more of a chance to blow up player flown ships, and most including the one interviewed by CCP accepted that a game change might alter the way they operate. This won't put the privateers out of business, it'll just give them less targets of opportunity, and force them to be more selective about who they want to attack.
Games evolve, you all had a great run on an innovative idea. Alter gracefully, rather than go out whining about how whining ruins EVE. That's just pathetic.
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Mortuus
Minmatar Oblivion's Gate Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Originally by: Mortuus Edited by: Mortuus on 17/04/2007 20:46:30 Wow, time to kill the fun.
So now my choices are low sec gate camping or back to 0.0 for the always exciting PoS safespot scandown. You know, where the moment someone enters local everyone hits the PoS until they can log on the carrier alt, get 6 people together, and run you out of a system.
0.0 PvP is boring and stupid and caters to the carebear, so does lowsec and now there is no real option.
I suppose we could always move every Privateer into a smaller area of EvE and wardec the most active people there.
And if you didn't know, we basically are non-profit =)
Wait, lowsec piracy is for carebears? Did I hear you correctly?
I guess REAL pirates just sat around in harbor after paying the authorities a few bucks, and shot down everything that lifted anchor, high fiving themselves for their awesomeness.
Lowsec piracy is just gate camping all day with a carrier or two for backup. Its boring, its lame, and there are plenty of corps that do it already.
You think you should be safe in that harbour, thats fine, but when you undock and leave port you shouldn't be. Very few of us actually camp Jita, as opposed to the thousands of 0.0 "PvPrs" that hide in their PoS bubbles until they outnumber and have capital support.
Remove PoS and Cap ships, and the game would be fine.
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:11:00 -
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So where are all these Privateers who were talking smack about "If you swing the nerfbat, piracy will adapt!"
What happened to the bravado? Where's that "Don't whine, ADAPT" crap coming from now?
Did CCP call your bluff, ladies? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Timmeh ([email protected]) |
RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull So where are all these Privateers who were talking smack about "If you swing the nerfbat, piracy will adapt!"
What happened to the bravado? Where's that "Don't whine, ADAPT" crap coming from now?
Did CCP call your bluff, ladies?
Flame much?
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Dzil
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Wait, lowsec piracy is for carebears? Did I hear you correctly?
I guess REAL pirates just sat around in harbor after paying the authorities a few bucks, and shot down everything that lifted anchor, high fiving themselves for their awesomeness.
If I managed to pull that off, damn right I'd high five my buddy for our awesomeness. I mean the mafia? They were pretty cool...
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 17/04/2007 21:09:07
Originally by: Sorted We only decced the allainces - its was contracts which added the smaller corps to our lists.. and that was usualy smacktalk based lol (or a small empire griefer corp someone wanted off their back, )
The problem wasn't in the contracts, but the cost...IIRC you only asked for the war cost (2 mil) so corps could war dec another and never actually have to do the fighting themselves. This in a sense turned hi-sec into low sec for those that wanted to PvE only, and is the basis for the argument for turning empire into 0.0... not that you dec'd alliances, but that people were using you to dec PvE corps explicitly... and while that's fine in a way, griefer corps that do that at least do the fighting themselves for "at cost"
I ♥ merc corps, and merc warfare for profit is awesome, but the system you Privs set up was being abused and you might not have noticed.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: RedFall
Originally by: Janu Hull So where are all these Privateers who were talking smack about "If you swing the nerfbat, piracy will adapt!"
What happened to the bravado? Where's that "Don't whine, ADAPT" crap coming from now?
Did CCP call your bluff, ladies?
Flame much?
When the circumstances call for it. It seems ironic how quickly they folded, though. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Timmeh ([email protected]) |
Rainhailer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:16:00 -
[114]
This thread makes me
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Ragornok
Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:17:00 -
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Realistically, I see this having a fundamental change in how we operate, but it will only be a negative change if we allow it to be.
Real difference, we will have less declared wars. Ok. So, will I crawl away defeated? No, never.
There will be less targets, true, but that will also be liberating to a degree. It opens up the ability to really start to target our efforts and have a greater impact in each individual war we have. No longer will we randomly pop whatever we see, but we will be proactively pursuing our enemies. We may no longer accept every contract that is requested of us, but we will have the ability to pick and choose the most lucrative and entertaining ones.
We won't be patrolling with a wide net, catching whatever the tide may bring. I hope to see us grow in effectiveness, stay true to our ideals, and continue being a scourge upon those we choose.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ragornok Realistically, I see this having a fundamental change in how we operate, but it will only be a negative change if we allow it to be.
Real difference, we will have less declared wars. Ok. So, will I crawl away defeated? No, never.
There will be less targets, true, but that will also be liberating to a degree. It opens up the ability to really start to target our efforts and have a greater impact in each individual war we have. No longer will we randomly pop whatever we see, but we will be proactively pursuing our enemies. We may no longer accept every contract that is requested of us, but we will have the ability to pick and choose the most lucrative and entertaining ones.
We won't be patrolling with a wide net, catching whatever the tide may bring. I hope to see us grow in effectiveness, stay true to our ideals, and continue being a scourge upon those we choose.
Now THIS is the kind of response I had hoped to see. Well said. Very few people have a problem with the Privateers per se, it's just how wide a net they were able to cast and how little it took to keep that net spread.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ragornok Realistically, I see this having a fundamental change in how we operate, but it will only be a negative change if we allow it to be.
Real difference, we will have less declared wars. Ok. So, will I crawl away defeated? No, never.
There will be less targets, true, but that will also be liberating to a degree. It opens up the ability to really start to target our efforts and have a greater impact in each individual war we have. No longer will we randomly pop whatever we see, but we will be proactively pursuing our enemies. We may no longer accept every contract that is requested of us, but we will have the ability to pick and choose the most lucrative and entertaining ones.
We won't be patrolling with a wide net, catching whatever the tide may bring. I hope to see us grow in effectiveness, stay true to our ideals, and continue being a scourge upon those we choose.
See ya 'round the Empire. That's what I was looking to see. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Timmeh ([email protected]) |
Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:21:00 -
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<< is blonde << is slow, can i ask what the change is that is so bad for prv?
Originally by: inSpirAcy Don't worry, it's the bullying culture EVE attracts.
You don't actually have to make a point if you get enough people to laugh with you.
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Portios Smith
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted I have heard WOW has more of an edge to it than this game - I might give it a try....
QFT!!! when the nerf hits I'm closing my accounts and headed there too. I dont like the direction this game is headed any more.
EVE "can I have your stuff" ME "NO!"
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 17/04/2007 21:22:27
Originally by: Ragornok Realistically, I see this having a fundamental change in how we operate, but it will only be a negative change if we allow it to be.
Real difference, we will have less declared wars. Ok. So, will I crawl away defeated? No, never.
There will be less targets, true, but that will also be liberating to a degree. It opens up the ability to really start to target our efforts and have a greater impact in each individual war we have. No longer will we randomly pop whatever we see, but we will be proactively pursuing our enemies. We may no longer accept every contract that is requested of us, but we will have the ability to pick and choose the most lucrative and entertaining ones.
We won't be patrolling with a wide net, catching whatever the tide may bring. I hope to see us grow in effectiveness, stay true to our ideals, and continue being a scourge upon those we choose.
Precisely.
Good luck gentlemen, and good hunting. I have to admit, the change needed to be made (twas a bit TOO easy for you) but I have a feeling you'll do just fine.
Edit: And hopefully it will weed the occasional twit out, like the one that posted above me.
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