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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.06 23:47:00 -
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As a still relatively small Pirate Corp, we are quickly closing in on 18,000 kills. After contemplating this for a while, it occurred to me that people who tend to consistently smack a Corp fall under one of four major categories.
1. Jealousy/Envy
2. Because everyone else is doing it (peer pressure/bandwagon syndrome)
3. Low self-esteem/ego and lack of confidence
4. Lack of understanding/comprehension (i.e., people tend to fear/look down on things they fail to understand resulting in smack)
I decided to post some quotes from the fanbois of October Snow to put things into perspective. All of these quotes fall into one of the above four categories in my opinion.
1. "I just wanted to get in on the Ginger bashing for Once" - Ezekial Crow
2. "You're just the macrominers of pvp" - Waxau
3. "encountered a pirate camp that included 5 drakes, 1 huggin, 1 lachesis and yes 1 carrier wtf, shows how much balls these guys have, that was a pure pirate gank with nothing to achieve but to gank" - Joiske
4. "You gotta admit that carriers at low sec gate camps is lame though" - Qolde
5. "Sooo, instead of fighting til the end, doing as much damage as possible, u give up and just self destruct. Utterly pathetic" - fire 59
6. "Piracy is truly EVE on easy mode. We should shoot more of them." - Mynas Atoch
7. "You guys are basically ore thiefs with a bit more isk." - Montgomery Alabaster
8. "So what is your gate camp with T2 Sniper BS and a Thanatos vs a shuttle or T1 frig, skill?" - Hans Roaming
9. "then again lame is also gatcamping blasting frig and shuttle after frig and shuttle" - Galan Amarias
10. "Snowy's ego is approaching critical BoB levels" - Nicocat
11. "why dont you get it into your feeble brain that camping shuttles and indies with cap ships is a blob and lame ?" - Skuzapo
12. "Lol, remember i heard your corp name somewhere. Ahhh you're the nublets that are losing all the carriers." - kill0rbunny
13. "I think most people dislike you tools for how much you kiss your own collective ass on the forums. What you do is nothing special." - deathforge
14. "Its the way of october snow being asshats as usual." - Major Stormer
15. "Last I heard you guys were dishonoring them (ransoms). Clever business strategy, that one." - Verone
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.06 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slice on 06/04/2007 23:46:38 16. "Theres many better pirates around, they just don't ***** the forums self proclaiming brilliance." - ScreamingLord Sutch
17. "This is Oktober Snow ... do not expect much honor." - Lord BlackSter
18. "Jesus, what little respect Snowy did have, in my view, just went out the window." - Karlemgne
19. "Did you get a botox injection to your ego upon joining snowy?" - kublai
20. "Burn snowy, burn" - Seviere
21. "There are pirates with dignity, and pirates without... Clearly most of Octobersnow are the latter" - Jarjar
22. "snowy has no room to complain over ganking because hell they will admit that they do this all day" - DarkElf
23. "i lolled at the recent "octobersnow lost 3 capships" - Benglada
24. "Yesterday i was poded and pod killed by some internet tough guys from snowy, which i havent any respect for and dont really think anyone does." - FHPhantom
25. "I don't understand. So, you DO think it's ok to run yer mouth, gank people when you have the upper hand, and log off when ya get caught?" - Neisen C'nelen
26. "The only elite thing about them is their forum pvp" - Ryysa
27. "Hurrah for shuttle/frigate/noobship kills at sniping ranges." - Verone
More to come...
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.06 23:50:00 -
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Let the flames begin!
See you guys in 7 pages
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Muhaar Gemeinian
Armee der Finsternis
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Posted - 2007.04.06 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Thread Winner Let the flames begin!
See you guys in 7 pages
I predict you will be back earlier.
Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.06 23:52:00 -
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The only person on that list whose pvp skill I can vouch for is Verone. Maybe they should take a gang to your gang and see what happens? Seriously, why people jump on smack bandwaggons is beyond me, but I'm jealous of your fanclub. Mine's in my bio ---
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:26:00 -
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I'm so jealous infact, i've so far rejected two invitations from tiller and a third from ginger himself.
What can I say, it keeps eating at me. Sig removed. do not comment on moderator actions. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |
Dorion Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dorion Gray on 07/04/2007 00:26:00 I like number 10
EDIT what number does this one fall into ?
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Kailiao
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:39:00 -
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You forgot
28 You have just bought yourself a wardec - Ginger Magician
We are still waiting for you guys mate, it's been 2 months, and not even a scout
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Verone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:39:00 -
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I got two quotes mentioned... I'm speshul.
As for smack, I've never once smacktalked your corporation, and I don't intend to. I choose my words carefully when I post, they're cold hard fact.
The only person I've seen smacking in Veto Corp/Snowy contact has been Ginger calling people nubs in local.
Your corp, and your members don't concern me. In fact, some of them are quite nice chaps to be honest, I simply find there's no skill involved in their playstyle, and to me it remains the equivalent of spawn camping in an FPS.
I guess I can find solace in the fact that my words have such a profound effect on you that you choose to metion me twice though.
Take it easy guys, and have fun.
When we break the game down to basics, that's what it's all about.
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:50:00 -
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I don't want this to be taken out of context as flamebait, but I am curious on how your kills break down by ship type.
/curious
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I got two quotes mentioned... I'm speshul.
As for smack, I've never once smacktalked your corporation, and I don't intend to. I choose my words carefully when I post, they're cold hard fact.
The only person I've seen smacking in Veto Corp/Snowy contact has been Ginger calling people nubs in local.
Your corp, and your members don't concern me. In fact, some of them are quite nice chaps to be honest, I simply find there's no skill involved in their playstyle, and to me it remains the equivalent of spawn camping in an FPS.
I guess I can find solace in the fact that my words have such a profound effect on you that you choose to metion me twice though.
Take it easy guys, and have fun.
When we break the game down to basics, that's what it's all about.
Many people have multiple quotes, as this is only Part 1. Everyone seems to think their smack has an effect on us. I'm simply showing something very obvious, and letting the Eve populace determine for themselves, their own opinions.
You cannot refute your own quotes as not being smack. Regardless, I'm sure you also don't want yourself to be categorized in one of the 4 categories I listed.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shalia Ripper I don't want this to be taken out of context as flamebait, but I am curious on how your kills break down by ship type.
/curious
Battlecruisers: 620 Destroyers; 721 Interdictors: 5 Frigates: 2,520 Shuttles: 1,227 Battleships: 481 Dreadnoughts: 2 Assault Frigates: 342 Industrials: 1,456 Capsules: 7,294 Command Ships: 24 Transport Ships: 76 Mining Barges: 85 Carriers: 1 T2 Mining Barges: 3 Cruisers: 1,585 Heavy Assault Cruisers: 90 Freighters: 2 Rookie Ships: 1,399
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ZuN3
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:54:00 -
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Reason no#2 is the most common by far IMO.
Y'olde bandwagon syndrome.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: kublai I'm so jealous infact, i've so far rejected two invitations from tiller and a third from ginger himself.
What can I say, it keeps eating at me.
Well, if you choose to put yourself into the 1st Category, I won't stop you.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice
Battlecruisers: 620 Destroyers; 721 Interdictors: 5 Frigates: 2,520 Shuttles: 1,227 Battleships: 481 Dreadnoughts: 2 Assault Frigates: 342 Industrials: 1,456 Capsules: 7,294 Command Ships: 24 Transport Ships: 76 Mining Barges: 85 Carriers: 1 T2 Mining Barges: 3 Cruisers: 1,585 Heavy Assault Cruisers: 90 Freighters: 2 Rookie Ships: 1,399
I'm sure this is quite a kick in the nuts to those who seem to think all we kill fall under 2 ship types.
Thanks for the info, my curiosity is now sated.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiao You forgot
28 You have just bought yourself a wardec - Ginger Magician
We are still waiting for you guys mate, it's been 2 months, and not even a scout
We've been busy ganking "nubs". The only time I remember you guys is when you come to the forums to smack us.
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Wardog 1 on 07/04/2007 01:07:24 I'm sure it would be just as easy for someone to make a similar post using only Tiller quotes.
I like Slice (think i spoke with you once in a public channel or smtn, but still), I'm sure theres plenty of good people in SNOWY, yet i can't help but think that while most of these quotes while unnecessary, are more than likely provoked by some of your corp members attitudes.
Self proclaimed no.1 pirate corp in eve best gate campers fair enough, and thats what most of these refer to, but perhaps people would have a kinder outlook to you guys should some people not try rub it in so much.
Yeah yeah, you don't want people to be kind.. YARRR and all that, then again you are right about the smacktalk towards pirates and the reasons for it. Nice post from a pirates point of view.
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Neon Genesis
Gallente The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 07/04/2007 01:12:41 It's all an act in the end, i'm sure you get a big laugh on ts over everyone who humours your threads.
Personally, I don't give a dry turd about one small pirate corp. It's a drop in the ocean. If you're getting lots of kills, good on you.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Wardog 1 Edited by: Wardog 1 on 07/04/2007 01:07:24 I'm sure it would be just as easy for someone to make a similar post using only Tiller quotes.
I like Slice (think i spoke with you once in a public channel or smtn, but still), I'm sure theres plenty of good people in SNOWY, yet i can't help but think that while most of these quotes while unnecessary, are more than likely provoked by some of your corp members attitudes.
Self proclaimed no.1 pirate corp in eve best gate campers fair enough, and thats what most of these refer to, but perhaps people would have a kinder outlook to you guys should some people not try rub it in so much.
Yeah yeah, you don't want people to be kind.. YARRR and all that, then again you are right about the smacktalk towards pirates and the reasons for it. Nice post from a pirates point of view.
I hear ya Wardog
I'll put it this way: If someone claimed to be something, and I disagreed with that claim, should I become angry and go on the defensive?
Or should I simply say "I don't agree" and leave it at that? Others would not say anything in reply to the claim. But those that get angry and emotional about it, definitely have issues.
Are they trying to hide something? A shortcoming in their own character and personality perhaps?
If you told me you were the best at something Wardog, and it pertained to a VIDEO GAME, I would probably say something like "Ok mate". I'm secure in my own knowledge and confidence, to not take offense to your claim, and start flaming the ****e out of you in response.
I hope things are becoming clearer now, and of why I posted this thread in the first place.
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Zell
Caldari The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 06/04/2007 18:38:59 There was no official announcement made about Miz's .............. Contrary to popular belief, we don't generate posts on every single detail that happens. That is generally done by others (see original poster for example). Yet we still get called 'Forum Warriors' and 'Instigators'
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 06/04/2007 19:13:32
Originally by: Waxau Edited by: Waxau on 06/04/2007 18:08:45 Lol
'waaaaaa waaaaaa' here comes the anti-snowy brigade
As soon as a thread appears metioning us (notice we didn't even start it) out come the usual haters.
etc,,,,,,,,,etc.......etc
see the pattern developing Scully?
A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.. |
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 01:29:35 Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 01:27:32
Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 06/04/2007 18:38:59 There was no official announcement made about Miz's .............. Contrary to popular belief, we don't generate posts on every single detail that happens. That is generally done by others (see original poster for example). Yet we still get called 'Forum Warriors' and 'Instigators'
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 06/04/2007 19:13:32
Originally by: Waxau Edited by: Waxau on 06/04/2007 18:08:45 Lol
'waaaaaa waaaaaa' here comes the anti-snowy brigade
As soon as a thread appears metioning us (notice we didn't even start it) out come the usual haters.
etc,,,,,,,,,etc.......etc
see the pattern developing Scully?
You're way off the mark, Zell. I made this thread about something that is going on out-of-game. It has nothing to do with an announcement, a celebration, or an ingame detail.
And if you check, when was the last time I made a thread, hmmm? Its been many weeks.
Edit:
Btw Zell, I have some smack quotes from you in the past as well. Welcome to my thread, Fan Boi Which category do you fall into?
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Devian 666
Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:49:00 -
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Basically pirates pirate for profit. It upsets people that you're making isk doing your chosen profession. Big deal. All the whiners and smackers need to get over their loses/small epeens and move on.
If you really want to get a reaction that will instantly get 20 pages worth out of it make a "legitimate" post to the stations & outposts forum. Ask them a question about about how much loot can be fitted in an industrial so that when you pirate one at a gate camp you can calculate your maximum profits. I'm sure you could collect some great quotes. "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground" |
Lucky Lynn
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:50:00 -
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Here's a quote.
In Re:
"STOP IT! Just F'N STOP IT!"
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Skuzapo
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 00:54:31
Originally by: Shalia Ripper I don't want this to be taken out of context as flamebait, but I am curious on how your kills break down by ship type.
/curious
Destroyers; 721 Frigates: 2,520 Shuttles: 1,227 Industrials: 1,456 Capsules: 7,294 Mining Barges: 85 Rookie Ships: 1,399
I'm sure this is quite a kick in the nuts to those who seem to think all we kill fall under 2 ship types.
theres abut 14 700 kills that honestly took zero skill and are of no use in e-peen waving ( unless you rp a clown )
so that leaves about 3 300 kills woth mentioning
lets see you have lost 14 ? carriers since december .
Seriously you guys should not be here waving your e-peens about ( those stats are distinctly sub-average )
I still think you guys should all go on an agony unleashed course to boost your stats .
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 01:53:17
Originally by: Skuzapo
Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 00:54:31
Originally by: Shalia Ripper I don't want this to be taken out of context as flamebait, but I am curious on how your kills break down by ship type.
/curious
Destroyers; 721 Frigates: 2,520 Shuttles: 1,227 Industrials: 1,456 Capsules: 7,294 Mining Barges: 85 Rookie Ships: 1,399
I'm sure this is quite a kick in the nuts to those who seem to think all we kill fall under 2 ship types.
theres abut 14 700 kills that honestly took zero skill and are of no use in e-peen waving ( unless you rp a clown )
so that leaves about 3 300 kills woth mentioning
lets see you have lost 14 ? carriers since december .
Seriously you guys should not be here waving your e-peens about ( those stats are distinctly sub-average )
I still think you guys should all go on an agony unleashed course to boost your stats .
Someone asked a question so I provided an honest answer. You are one of the ones that said we only gank noob ships and shuttles. Clearly you're wrong. How many kills do you have?
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B1G DAVE
Mining and Research Industrial Organisation Hell Hounds
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:59:00 -
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Makes me laugh...
You come here whining about people smack talking your corp, when only last week tiller was on here saying how he always smack talks if he thinks he cant win a fight...
Hypocrisy at its best \o/
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Lucky Lynn
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Posted - 2007.04.07 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice How many kills do you have?
Are you asking about solo kills or group kills?
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.07 02:02:00 -
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Fair enough slice i hear ya... well i think i do, its 3 in the morning and for some reason iv not eaten since breakfast yesterday... wtb waffle of some kind.
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.07 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slice on 07/04/2007 02:00:19
Originally by: B1G DAVE Makes me laugh...
You come here whining about people smack talking your corp, when only last week tiller was on here saying how he always smack talks if he thinks he cant win a fight...
Hypocrisy at its best \o/
I don't have a problem with people smacking with the intention of having some light-hearted fun.
But there are many people (whom I now call Fan Bois) that take it to a whole new level.
They smack consistently, and they are not doing it for fun. They actually hate us with real life anger lol.
I have smacked in the past also, and in local but they were simply fun exchanges between another player and myself.
But when you start stalking and harassing a Corp ingame, and hiding and smacking on the forums non-stop with alts, then you have crossed the line, and have fallen into one of the four categories I've outlined above.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.07 02:07:00 -
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Grats, this thread gets a 10 for pointless. Yarr etc. |
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