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Akoudoulos
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:12:00 -
[361]
Yes of course there was no Titan and no loss Thats why you repped the tower and tried to kill the cynos, your original plan was to kill our capital fleet right? i wonder why you didn't want em in the system, since it was your plan to kill em :S
Bad propaganda, only took you a week to think what to say just to look good and still your tale fails to make sense
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bigfatbird
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:13:00 -
[362]
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Originally by: bigfatbird Hmm you need this long to come up with that tale?
Dude you are defenitely getting old.
seems you are trying to hard to believe that your weren't played by bob
Me trying hard? Why?
Just because you dont like the one freaking reply I posted in this retarded thread?
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:15:00 -
[363]
Edited by: Victor Vision on 02/04/2007 21:14:44
Originally by: dirtystockbird
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/04/2007 17:23:47
Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Before fight:
First shipyard - empty. Second shipyard - in build.
After fight:
One shipyard remains - building (BoB perspective) One shipyard remains - building (Coalition perspective)
Builder's screens:
Day after battle - one shipyard left. My jobs - Aeon Blueprint.
I'm told there will be fraps posted shortly for the unbelievers.
Well I'm no photoshop expert but they look genuine to me.
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There are a lot of people that even when you show them undeniable proof...
Screenshots can be used to convince people of something if they chose to fall for it, but they are not valid proof of anything.
Well done photoshops are not proveable as fake.
If a screenshot can not be proven to be fake, it does not mean it has to be true.
Examples of Screenshots that can not be proven as fakes, but one is a fake:
The station in Litom has no jobs running -> Proof 1
vs
The station in Liton has 5 jobs running -> Proof 2
In the end it is up to the audience to choose what they want to believe, but no certain proof of anything has been provided in this thread.
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:15:00 -
[364]
Edited by: Juha85 on 02/04/2007 21:14:45
Originally by: Akoudoulos Yes of course there was no Titan and no loss Thats why you repped the tower and tried to kill the cynos, your original plan was to kill our capital fleet right? i wonder why you didn't want em in the system, since it was your plan to kill em :S
Bad propaganda, only took you a week to think what to say just to look good and still your tale fails to make sense
Umm.. maybe the reason for killing the cynos was to have LESS capital ships in the system at once..
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:19:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Juha85
Originally by: Akoudoulos Yes of course there was no Titan and no loss Thats why you repped the tower and tried to kill the cynos, your original plan was to kill our capital fleet right? i wonder why you didn't want em in the system, since it was your plan to kill em :S
Bad propaganda, only took you a week to think what to say just to look good and still your tale fails to make sense
Umm.. maybe the reason for killing the cynos was to have LESS capital ships in the ship at once..
\o/
...erm, no wait. One more spin, anyone?
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Happster
Polaris Project
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:19:00 -
[366]
If anything, the OP reminds me of the Iraq minister who claimed there were no enemy troops in iraq, and at same time the american tanks were rolling in behind his back...
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:21:00 -
[367]
Edited by: Boliknar on 02/04/2007 21:18:15
Originally by: Juha85 Edited by: Juha85 on 02/04/2007 21:14:45
Originally by: Akoudoulos Yes of course there was no Titan and no loss Thats why you repped the tower and tried to kill the cynos, your original plan was to kill our capital fleet right? i wonder why you didn't want em in the system, since it was your plan to kill em :S
Bad propaganda, only took you a week to think what to say just to look good and still your tale fails to make sense
Umm.. maybe the reason for killing the cynos was to have LESS capital ships in the system at once..
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But i thought the trap was to kill all of the capital ships? If that was truely the goal why wouldnt you want all the caps ships in there?
Oh and Btw I am 362nd. Not that is means anything
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dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Stratos LOL @ the northerners posting here
You fell for a trap, it was the same kind of trap we used on ASCN and they fell for it to.
You need to think before u go flexing your mucles, the POS was not building a thing, and now u lsot 57 dreads which CANNOT be replaced overnight.
I cant wait for this coaltion to fall and for us to be stood on the ash pile cheering
Where coming for you....
um its spelled WE're comming for you................
and lol at threats from xelas http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg |
Permayla Diota
Minmatar Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:24:00 -
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Contrary to what a lot of the coalition pilots in this thread believe, I expect Bob want you to keep thinking there was a titan in there, yep they want you to have absolute confidence in your intel, your command, and your fight to victory.
I imagine it makes all there giggling that much sweeter when down the road your sitting there wondering wtf happened.
No one likes to admit they ever got played, that someone else in a imaginary game world just "might" be better at it than they are or did in fact "pwn" them on a certain day. I know I hate losing when I play. If I didnt then whats the point of playing to begin with ?
The difference is admitting you got pwnerized, laugh it off congratulate the one who did it like a grownup and LEARN FROM IT :) Reading these forums I get the sense a lot of poster would sooner bust a blood vessel and stroke out than treat this as what it is. A GAME.
Whatever happened to GL HF anyway ?
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Baymm
Shadow Gypsies R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: Baymm Edited by: Baymm on 02/04/2007 20:02:25 Stroking Bob?
If D2 or someone in the Coalition could offer any evidence that they killed a titan, I imagine most everyone would say "good job". But they haven't offered any proof at all. Bob has offered evidence to support their claim and the evidence is pretty convincing that other coalition pilots are agreeing.
Instead of maligning people as "stroking Bob", maybe you should call on the Coalition to produce the evidence that there was a titan in that POS. Surely, they had to have some belief it was there, no? Well, what evidence convinced them to make this attack?
Ok lets see here you want the coalition to tell you (an enemy) what evidence the had and how they came to their conclusions, Ok at the same time do you want them to release the passwords to all the POS or maybe just institute you as a Director in all of their corps. Jesus get real man.
Hmmm, the passwords and instituting me as director wouldn't really help solve the lack of evidence that the coalitiion has shown with respect to this issue. I would think they would have some evidence that could be made public. When they learned of the alleged titan, how long they were planning, etc. Come on, you don't want Joe Eve Public to think the coalition jumped an enormous cap fleet to hit a POS where they weren't certain it had a titan, right? Baymm Shadow Gypsies Rise |
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Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Akov Stohs on 02/04/2007 21:27:44
Originally by: darkfuntime Ahhh a april fools joke that was really funny.Two Cap poses in one system.Molle tell a new joke so i can laugh again.
D2 have more then 2 in one system :]
edit: typo
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R'adeh
Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Permayla Diota Contrary to what a lot of the coalition pilots in this thread believe, I expect Bob want you to keep thinking there was a titan in there, yep they want you to have absolute confidence in your intel, your command, and your fight to victory.
I imagine it makes all there giggling that much sweeter when down the road your sitting there wondering wtf happened.
No one likes to admit they ever got played, that someone else in a imaginary game world just "might" be better at it than they are or did in fact "pwn" them on a certain day. I know I hate losing when I play. If I didnt then whats the point of playing to begin with ?
The difference is admitting you got pwnerized, laugh it off congratulate the one who did it like a grownup and LEARN FROM IT :) Reading these forums I get the sense a lot of poster would sooner bust a blood vessel and stroke out than treat this as what it is. A GAME.
Whatever happened to GL HF anyway ?
What you wrote counts for both sides though. So if BoB lost a titan when that POS got destroyed, according to you, they should just admit it and laugh it off...and ofc would do so. Same goes for the coalition, if there wasn't a titan, they should just congratulate BoB and move on. Now, which side showed indisputable proof...right, no side of this conflict did. And unless CCP comes out with a statement (which I doubt they will), we'll never know for sure.
If you accept Molle's post as indisputable proof, well _______________________________________________
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P4ND0l24
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:32:00 -
[373]
Ok here you are two interesting bits from Molle's post:
"The first attempt at a kill on 2.1, was blocked out totally, as the coalition never managed to get a fleet into the system. We closed down the routes properly, and by the time they were anywhere near the POS had been healed."
and
"Our plans this time differed from the last time. We left openings, so that we could plan where they would arrive, and left only one option open - to jump bridge all ships in and to cyno directly in."
So way BoB HC changed thier plan this time? Why thier didn't cloesed down routes as few times before? Why they alowed half of Coalitions capitals to jump in? Interestig questions isn't it ?
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Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:33:00 -
[374]
ps: gl hf
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Agmar
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:41:00 -
[375]
fofofofofofo
Grats BoB... was a pleasure to be there!
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:56:00 -
[376]
Evil plans are nice. The Mother of all (so far concieved) Evil plans locking tight?
Unimaginable pleasure^6.
And you know what the best thing about this is? Even IF this wasnt true it would STILL be the greatest plan ever. Think big and you will see it. Its so beutiful it almost makes me misty.
Cheers, Lowa ps. I know where the missing Titan BPO is. In my PANTS! The standard of many modern fallos.
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Boci
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:00:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Nathin Ames You want the proof.....
Wait till BoB's newest AEON kills you...
Would that be proof enough or do we need to tatoo it on your head?
To be fair, the contents of the 'other' POS have absolutely no effect on the contents of the one which was destroyed. I'm not even sure why it is being mentioned. A thought diversion, perhaps.
It does prove the contents of the other POS. Screenshots of before AND after the destruction show only 1 manufacturing job taking place at a POS, anywhere in space, by that corporation. Simple elimination will show you that if a POS died, and the ONLY manufacturing job in existance anywhere in space at any POS that corporation owns is still ticking away after said the Coalition target was destroyed, then the destroyed POS could not be the one that was doing the producing, and was thus...*gasp* Empty.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:08:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: scabbsssjr Hi,
I have not read more than molle's post so let me geuss what the past 15 pages are about.
BOB: Okay this is 04-02-07, its not a joke, it was empty, it was all a big trap.
Coaltion: LIERZZ, it was a titan, see you admitted it on april fools day. We will believe its a titan or MS so we feel jusitifed.
If I am wrong about the past pages, pls inform and I will edit accordingly.
Its about right except that half way through the Coalition switches into "Those screenies are fake and so is the fraps, anyone can fake it! There was a titan afterall!"
Joshua, I can not see anyone saying the fraps is fake.
But the fraps only shows that the remaining POS was producing a mothership, not that the destroyed POS was not producing a Titan.
If the whole action at F-TE1T was realy a trap by BoB, then why did noone fraps the empty capital yards before they were destroyed to prove later they were empty?
Screenshots can be easily faked and it must have been clear to BoB that people would not accept these as proof.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:12:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: scabbsssjr Hi,
I have not read more than molle's post so let me geuss what the past 15 pages are about.
BOB: Okay this is 04-02-07, its not a joke, it was empty, it was all a big trap.
Coaltion: LIERZZ, it was a titan, see you admitted it on april fools day. We will believe its a titan or MS so we feel jusitifed.
If I am wrong about the past pages, pls inform and I will edit accordingly.
Its about right except that half way through the Coalition switches into "Those screenies are fake and so is the fraps, anyone can fake it! There was a titan afterall!"
Joshua, I can not see anyone saying the fraps is fake.
But the fraps only shows that the remaining POS was producing a mothership, not that the destroyed POS was not producing a Titan.
If the whole action at F-TE1T was realy a trap by BoB, then why did noone fraps the empty capital yards before they were destroyed to prove later they were empty?
Screenshots can be easily faked and it must have been clear to BoB that people would not accept these as proof.
Coalition members and higherups have already confirmed both here and on other forums that only one pos in F-T was building. If one spit a mothership out this leaves the destroyed one only to be empty.
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Natia
Happy Hungry Hippos
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:26:00 -
[380]
Edited by: Natia on 02/04/2007 22:25:53 See they needed this long not only to come up with this marvelous piece of propoganda like damage control but also to await the petition response from CCP. The timing fits.
Day 0 - OH crap we lost baby Titan, Petition CCP Lag caused us to lose it Day 1- No reply ....start brainstorming plan Day 2- Crap Our Devs cant get involved and denied Petition onto the test server to take some pics Day 3- Draft propoganda, show a mothership coming out of another POS (which has NO bearing on what the other POS had) take some screenshots of an empty POS and/or photoshop some pics.
Hell if they didnt have to wait for their Devs to affirm they could not reimburse it we would have seen this before the weekend.
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hinch
Gallente Furious Angels
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Natia Edited by: Natia on 02/04/2007 22:25:53 See they needed this long not only to come up with this marvelous piece of propoganda like damage control but also to await the petition response from CCP. The timing fits.
Day 0 - OH crap we lost baby Titan, Petition CCP Lag caused us to lose it Day 1- No reply ....start brainstorming plan Day 2- Crap Our Devs cant get involved and denied Petition onto the test server to take some pics Day 3- Draft propoganda, show a mothership coming out of another POS (which has NO bearing on what the other POS had) take some screenshots of an empty POS and/or photoshop some pics.
Hell if they didnt have to wait for their Devs to affirm they could not reimburse it we would have seen this before the weekend.
retard
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Sun Ra
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:33:00 -
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KEEP TELLING YOURSELF IT WAS WORTH IT
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Happster If anything, the OP reminds me of the Iraq minister who claimed there were no enemy troops in iraq, and at same time the american tanks were rolling in behind his back...
thats a pretty horrible analogy.. unless all the tanks died in the process of rolling in, in which case it would be extremely accurate ______________
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snerdly
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:39:00 -
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My feeling on this is:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/j/baghdadbob_denial.jpg
Never believe anything Molle says. Molle really didn't offer any proof there wasnt a titan there.
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Hast
Refused.
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: snerdly My feeling on this is:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/j/baghdadbob_denial.jpg
Never believe anything Molle says. Molle really didn't offer any proof there wasnt a titan there.
Nevermind the fact that there was only one job in the system and that continued after the POS blew up.
Stop making uninformed assumptions.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:44:00 -
[386]
Edited by: Victor Vision on 02/04/2007 22:41:03
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: scabbsssjr Hi,
I have not read more than molle's post so let me geuss what the past 15 pages are about.
BOB: Okay this is 04-02-07, its not a joke, it was empty, it was all a big trap.
Coaltion: LIERZZ, it was a titan, see you admitted it on april fools day. We will believe its a titan or MS so we feel jusitifed...
Its about right except that half way through the Coalition switches into "Those screenies are fake and so is the fraps, anyone can fake it! There was a titan afterall!"
Joshua, I can not see anyone saying the fraps is fake.
But the fraps only shows that the remaining POS was producing a mothership, not that the destroyed POS was not producing a Titan.
If the whole action at F-TE1T was realy a trap by BoB, then why did noone fraps the empty capital yards before they were destroyed to prove later they were empty?
Screenshots can be easily faked and it must have been clear to BoB that people would not accept these as proof.
Coalition members and higherups have already confirmed both here and on other forums that only one pos in F-T was building. If one spit a mothership out this leaves the destroyed one only to be empty.
Where? Where have coalition members or higherups confirmed that only one of the two yards was producing anything?
Link would be nice.
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Baymm
Shadow Gypsies R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: snerdly My feeling on this is:
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/j/baghdadbob_denial.jpg
Never believe anything Molle says. Molle really didn't offer any proof there wasnt a titan there.
Yet, we are suppose to believe everything from someone named "Snerdly"?
I have no idea what was there, but Molle has offered more evidence than everyone else. /shrug Baymm Shadow Gypsies Rise |
Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Where? Where have coalition members or higherups confirmed that only one of the two yards was producing anything?
EvilThug confirmed it in one of the threads on Coad. Hippoking confirmed it on SHC-Forums and also the Aeon launch. Goons confirmed it on their own Forums (for those of us who can read there)
So far weve not seen a single high profile Coalition leader to actually put his weight behind the claims of a killed titan or anything else, neither have we seen proof. Not even pics or anything which makes Molles story abit more believeable. Also various "bob forces" posters stated they were informed of the pos beeing a setup beforehand which indicates that this story is not just born after the pos went to pieces.
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra KEEP TELLING YOURSELF IT WAS WORTH IT
Dude, that picture doesn't belong on forums where minors have access to. And that's not even considering that it's related to religion, something which doesn't belong on these boards either. (And no, I'm not religious, so it's not me taking offense...but I know some will) _______________
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Kane Jacobs
North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.04.02 22:58:00 -
[390]
Imagine Nelson from the Simpsons going...
HA-HA
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