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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:07:00 -
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As we move closer to a full release of Dust 514, CCP CmdrWang and the Dust team would like to invite you to register for the opportunity to take part in the Mordu's Private Trials. Click on this link to read the full blog for details on how to register. CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
53
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:13:00 -
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no PC - no play.
that is all. |
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
104
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:21:00 -
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Do I get a free PS3 ? Bankrupted by the holidays FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
Fara'a
BALKAN EXPRESS
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:21:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
signed Hate it or love it, the underdog's on top, And I'm gonna shine until my heart stop. |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
28
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:22:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
I for one welcome our console underlings into the EVE universe.
I'm signed up :) I have a specific comb for my beard. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1278
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:22:00 -
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Awesome!!
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Batolemaeus
Money Liberation Services Corp
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:22:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1160
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:24:00 -
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Finally, my PS3 was collecting dust... I'd rather be playing it |
Charles Javeroux
INTERSTELLAR CREDIT Interstellar Trade Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:25:00 -
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Niiiiice.
So the long years of financial support and consumer dedication to CCP company and their products, is finally starting to pay off |
Nathanael Lemmont
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Important Internet Spaceship League
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:28:00 -
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Signed! I'm excited to try it out. (fingers crossed) |
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Tammarr
Trident RMBK
9
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:31:00 -
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Should I logon all my accounts and apply for the beta to stand a chance vs people that will do that to enter 'several' times into a lottery? =) I think I even have three different emails registered and one thats only plexed. ^^
...Yes... I know, I wont do it, but other will and thus gain an unfair amount of advantage for getting a beta, limiting for the rest of us =( It always makes me q_q alittle but nothing can be done to stop it so...
Everytime you try to get ahead of a line by being metacreative your mom is out buying you yet another shirt you dont realy like. |
Darrien
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:32:00 -
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Hmm .... no email yet .... hope I don't need to be a PS+ subscriber to get in. Checking mail again. |
Leemi Sobo
23
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:32:00 -
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because i don't want to buy a ps3 i will be restricted to nuke dusties from orbit. Is this functionality already included in the beta? ^.^" |
Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company Band of Wanderers
12
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:34:00 -
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Looks like a good game but I'm not buying a kiddiestation just to play it.
Why you insisted it to be PlayStation only is beyound my comprehension. I can only guess its was tied up with the sponsor insisting on it. Not making it a PC game will mean you will miss out on many potential PC subscribers.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
113
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:38:00 -
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If I'm selected I will most get myself a PS3. Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:39:00 -
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Any chance for that beta to link up with sisi the same way it would link up with EVE when it's released so we can 'interact' with the beta participants ?
I also don't own a PS3 and unfortunately right now I can't afford one and most likely won't be able to in the near future (meaning next year) but I am eager to get to experience how it will connect with EVE.
Best regards, and good luck with the beta. |
Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation
16
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:39:00 -
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Great! To get this clear: - signing up here will get me the possibility that I will join the Beta starting within the upcoming three months - joining Fanfest 2012 will guarantee me a Beta invite, for a run possibly later than this program starts (?)
In essence, signing up now doesn't hurt, but I guess I shouldn't overlap with the account I register for Fanfest, right? And: In no point of time a PS3 combo is involved? Hence, I'll watch the prices of these things drop after the holidays. I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route. When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out. |
Macros Sigma
FA-Q2
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:39:00 -
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A shooter on a console...... nvm.... won't sign up for this... |
Trairan
DARk-TEMPLARS-ESP N E X O
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:43:00 -
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Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke? |
Yldrad
The Dandy KillerS
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:43:00 -
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Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
256
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:44:00 -
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CCP but i don't has PS3
PS.Weird that Grideris didn't post here yet. |
Pau Tia
Synergy Mechanic's
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:44:00 -
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PS3 ready and waiting to be abused! Application sent in, now its just a waiting game to see if I get an invite for the Beta.
Hope so as would be a great new year present. |
Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation
16
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:44:00 -
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Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. -- -- I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route. When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out. |
roigon
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:51:00 -
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Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid.
Hey CCP next time just don't let me sign up if I'm not eligible. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
256
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Posted - 2011.12.23 11:59:00 -
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roigon wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. Hey CCP next time just don't let me sign up if I'm not eligible.
But what that exactly means... UK only or what
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roigon
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:05:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:roigon wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. Hey CCP next time just don't let me sign up if I'm not eligible. But what that exactly means... UK only or what
I'd presume UK/ireland. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
214
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:05:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:roigon wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. Hey CCP next time just don't let me sign up if I'm not eligible. But what that exactly means... UK only or what
I'm assuming it means english speakers only, because literally it would mean European Union countries where english is the official language, so pretty much only people from Britain, Ireland and Malta could apply for the beta. |
Mibad
Caldari Provisions
40
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:07:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Everyone knows consoles have a limited life span. EVE is going to be around a long time, why would you pair the eve-dust link with something you know will eventually die? |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
19
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:07:00 -
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Liu Ellens wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. -- --
-- --
Inviting your customers to a private party: sweet. Forget to warn them that there will be a silly entry requirement: funny. End up telling half your customers to tough up for living in the wrong countries: priceless.
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Hayaishi
Aperture Harmonics K162
46
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:10:00 -
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I was really looking forward to this, but now I'm disappointed :(
Edit: Why? Because I'm in Australia. |
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Tammarr
Trident RMBK
9
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:12:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Liu Ellens wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. -- -- -- -- Inviting your customers to a private party: sweet. Forget to warn them that there will be a silly entry requirement: funny. End up telling half your customers to tough up for living in the wrong countries: priceless.
Oh dear. English speaking territories in the EU would be: Ireland, Scotland, England? =( Thats no good at all =(
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Half Cocked Jack
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
36
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:20:00 -
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Our PCs exploded last week, precious. We neeeeeeeds this, CCP. |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
74
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:29:00 -
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OMG YESSSSS.
Does being a Playstation Plus member increase chances of selection?
or
Is Dust exclusively available for Playstation Plus members?? <-- terrible idea. The market for the game is already small enough being ONLY on ONE console, limiting it to some BS subscription service (that is run by Sony ) is an even worse idea. We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
106
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:30:00 -
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Betagate here we come
Its most likely that the first test server will be in London CCP's main server farm. While all english speakers can apply only the ones they can see are close enough to the servers are needed for the first part of the test. While it would be nice to see what the latance from Australia will do to the game play lets start with baby steps |
Aussie ALF
Point of No Return Waterboard
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:39:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
FPS needs PC, I don't own a PS3, own an Xbox though, fookin crazy exclusive Sony crap has me |
Nur AlHuda
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:43:00 -
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Why i would buy ps3 just for single game when i can nuke them from orbit :P
Planetary kills : 1-5 Shooting down full merc barge priceless... |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
26
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:43:00 -
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Cmdr Wang? Really? Can Hydra have their logo now? Or should they submit one with flying penisses instead? |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
356
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:44:00 -
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GOOD LUCK CCP!!! Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.-áPeace out Zulu! Hope you land well! |
Camios
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:45:00 -
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Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories
Dose this mean that Iceland is excluded? LOL
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Zerakix
The White Mantle
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:45:00 -
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Finally a use for my old phat PS3 outside of MAG and GT5... I think PSN Plus as a requirement for the initial closed beta isn't to bad of a requirement but I've been a member of it since it launched so I'm probably biased and wanting a use for it.
In regard to English as a requirement the game is a closed beta and is probably heavy on voice comms and they want max testing of the capabilities since it's likely squad/team based and well if you can't understand the others in your squad it me be limiting on the play testing |
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Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
26
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:49:00 -
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Little Big Planet ftw. |
Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
58
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:53:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Not emptyquoting |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
28
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:59:00 -
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Liu Ellens wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. -- --
1. CCP can we get some light shined on this one?
2. When can we expect invitations if we are the lucky bastards? |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
124
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:01:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:08:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP
They are going to continue ignoring you because it doesn't matter what you think.
It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Thus it would have to be limited to consoles only. And for those who don't know why xbox isn't in on it, it is probably rooted in the fact that microsoft does not allow any connections to servers not strictly controlled by themselves, thus interaction with eve is not a possibility, or other ps3 consoles for that matter. The other reason is it is a Playstation sponsered game now.
But i would really like to know what they mean by English speaking countries? Because there are ALOT of countries where english may not be the native language, but is a mandatory class since 3rd grade. |
Shi'Nithra
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:12:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Don't have anything against "toys" but no PC - I'll pass. |
m3talc0re X
SandStorm. The Babylon Consortium
39
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:15:00 -
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Me, along with probably everyone else, has been dying for an EVE based fps game. I'm not buying a PS3 for it though. Putting it on PS3 only and nothing for PC at all is a kick in the face.. I can understand wanting to branch out and make more isk (iceland's currency...), but not giving it to us PC players is downright insulting. |
Tara'Quoya Rax
Black-Sun Pitch Black Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:21:00 -
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Too bad it's PS3 exclusive. I'm out. |
AtomizerX
Supernova Security Systems
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:29:00 -
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So wait, I've read that it's also supposed to be released for PS VIta, but nobody seems to have any details beyond that. Can CCP reveal anything further about Dust on PSV?I think I'd like to play the game, but I'd rather get the handheld than the console. In fact, if I wasn't already interested in the PSV I might've ended up purchasing it just to play Dust. |
Keiko Kobayashi
Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:32:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:roigon wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. Hey CCP next time just don't let me sign up if I'm not eligible. But what that exactly means... UK only or what
IMO it should also mean the Netherlands because I doubt weGÇÖre getting a localised version and virtually everybody here thatGÇÖs 18+ speaks English fine anyway. The Dutch play EVE Online right in English :). |
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Keiko Kobayashi
Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:34:00 -
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Burseg Sardaukar wrote:Is Dust exclusively available for Playstation Plus members?? <-- terrible idea. The market for the game is already small enough being ONLY on ONE console, limiting it to some BS subscription service (that is run by Sony ) is an even worse idea.
Of course not, that would be without precedent and just plain stupid. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
114
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:34:00 -
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So the account management site just went into maintenance, i guess its to clear up what ever is unclear about those regional restrictions (you better remove them all together!!)
also.
pick me pick me pick me :D |
roigon
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:35:00 -
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It could be that early entry to beta is a "perk" for google plus members, would make sense. |
Keiko Kobayashi
Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:41:00 -
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Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Thus it would have to be limited to consoles only. And for those who don't know why xbox isn't in on it, it is probably rooted in the fact that microsoft does not allow any connections to servers not strictly controlled by themselves, thus interaction with eve is not a possibility, or other ps3 consoles for that matter. The other reason is it is a Playstation sponsered game now.
This, guys. ItGÇÖs simple and logical. Blame Microsoft for having restrictive XBL policies. Blame the world for having a larger console games market than PC games.
If you really want to play it, a PS3 is only like Gé¼200 right now (seen on tweakers.net pricewatch) and has a lot of other nice games on it too, so yGÇÖknow, maybe a reason to get one ;p. If itGÇÖs got games like Dust 514 on it, maybe a worthy game system after all? :) |
Lunce
PWNED Factor The Seventh Day
4
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:44:00 -
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Shi'Nithra wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Don't have anything against "toys" but it's still a console game - I'll pass.
Agreed. When I first heard about this console only concept, I knew two things: the decision was linked to money (needed to continue and finish the project), and that I wouldn't be playing the game (because a shooter not available on a PC is a bad idea.) |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:55:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Liu Ellens wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. -- -- -- -- Inviting your customers to a private party: sweet. Forget to warn them that there will be a silly entry requirement: funny. End up telling half your customers to tough up for living in the wrong countries: priceless. I was trying to think of an appropriate comment, but no need.
Well-said. 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284286 |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:57:00 -
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Signups back up, signed.... if I had had more warning I wouldn't have slept and done this earlier |
HellGate fr
Yarrbear Inc.
11
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:57:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Would be nice to play DUST from time to time between EVE sessions on PC.
******* PS3 sucks. EVE players don't give a single **** about consoles |
hired goon
Legio Prima Victrix Imperius Legio Victrix
39
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:02:00 -
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I bought a brand new Core i7 and Nvidia GTX 590 just for this game! I am so pumped, can't wait!!!! |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
114
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:02:00 -
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The restriction has been changed and is now "The DUST 514 private trials will be available only to residents of North America or the European Union / EEA, and all trials will be conducted in English. "
thank you CCP :) |
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Sydious
The Drunken Empire Important Internet Spaceship League
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:11:00 -
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Any word on when the invites will start going out? |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:22:00 -
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Nur AlHuda wrote:Why i would buy ps3 just for single game when i can nuke them from orbit :P
Planetary kills : 1-5 Shooting down full merc barge priceless...
When can we buy skill books for Orbital Bombardment? |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
12
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:25:00 -
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Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:When can we buy skill books for Orbital Bombardment? don't give them ideas! surely something as basic as orbital bombardment doesn't need extra skill training if you look at what even the most basic capsuleers are able to do.
i mean how could you possibly miss.
glad to hear dust is entering this phase, i hope it won't be :nda:-d to death and everyone will get some new info from this. The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
B'Edari
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:29:00 -
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Applied! Hope I get picked, I have a PS3 and would def like to check this out. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:34:00 -
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Dear Santa,
All I want for xmas is to be in the Dust 514 closed beta.
Regards Winters x x x.
=========
I hope I get picked.
CCP if you pick me I promise to devote huge amounts of my free time to playing Dust 514 and ensuring I give you the best in constructive feedback as well as logging and reporting all bugs clearly and dutifully!
*puppy dog eyes*
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Nye Jaran
The Bad Touch Gryphon League
7
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:38:00 -
[66] - Quote
Silly question: Is it required that you be a PSN+ subscriber? I'm not and as much as I'd like to play Dust and help find / kill bugs, I don't want to pay a subscription to fee to Sony. |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
135
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:59:00 -
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if you give us the console i'm willing to help.
you should make a contest with ps3 as prizes |
Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:10:00 -
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Wait... didn't someone in CCP say that D514 wasn't aimed at the existing playerbase?
I understand offering Beta access, am dissapointed it's a PS3 Exclusive so means I won't get to experience it. I'm not buying a console I don't really like for one game, sorry.
Good luck.
Also, anyone that gets in: break the hell out if it and make sure you report how! |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
114
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:14:00 -
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Tyke Orlieveit wrote:Wait... didn't someone in CCP say that D514 wasn't aimed at the existing playerbase?
I understand offering Beta access, am dissapointed it's a PS3 Exclusive so means I won't get to experience it. I'm not buying a console I don't really like for one game, sorry.
Good luck.
Also, anyone that gets in: break the hell out if it and make sure you report how! maybe they dont dare to drop whatever bugs DUST beta has to a player base that is inexperienced to CCP :P
Or maybe its just a thank you, we will never know |
Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:18:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:Tyke Orlieveit wrote:Wait... didn't someone in CCP say that D514 wasn't aimed at the existing playerbase?
I understand offering Beta access, am dissapointed it's a PS3 Exclusive so means I won't get to experience it. I'm not buying a console I don't really like for one game, sorry.
Good luck.
Also, anyone that gets in: break the hell out if it and make sure you report how! maybe they dont dare to drop whatever bugs DUST beta has to a player base that is inexperienced to CCP :P Or maybe its just a thank you, we will never know
That's certainly true, no-one knows CCP like us.. and not many people like to break things like EVE players do.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
379
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:18:00 -
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hmm. there must be a way how to suicide gank dusties from space. a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:25:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ottersmacker wrote:Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:When can we buy skill books for Orbital Bombardment? don't give them ideas! surely something as basic as orbital bombardment doesn't need extra skill training if you look at what even the most basic capsuleers are able to do. i mean how could you possibly miss. glad to hear dust is entering this phase, i hope it won't be :nda:-d to death and everyone will get some new info from this.
we are talking about hitting an object, the size of lets say battleship on a target that is few 1000 kms and rotating away from you at the speed of lets say 2000 km/s (earth spin speed) where your dread is probably in siege mode and have a tracking as close to zero as possible.
Yeah, you dont need a skill for that, how could You miss? |
J Kunjeh
113
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:28:00 -
[73] - Quote
Oh look, it's all the tired old "it's not on PC youz suck CCP!" whiners, infecting every Dust thread they can find. Get a life, morons.
That said, this is wonderful news! I'm signing up ASAP!
That said, I'm hugely disappointed that it won't guarantee me a spot in the beta...like, why not CCP? "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
72
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:28:00 -
[74] - Quote
Bought PS3 at awesome price yesterday - Beta signup opens today.
Perfect timing. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:29:00 -
[75] - Quote
Grideris wrote:Bought PS3 at awesome price yesterday - Beta signup opens today.
Perfect timing.
Awesome.
I've got the excited feeling.
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Jon Hellguard
X-COM
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:29:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
/signed
-> i'm afraid that awesome extension is going to backfire. eventually the eve players pay the price (or already did) financially. |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:33:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jon Hellguard wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. /signed -> i'm afraid that awesome extension is going to backfire. eventually the eve players pay the price (or already did) financially. You know there is a huge buzz in PS3 FPS fanbase about this game?
Few big clans from MW and BF said they are coming to dust.
Soooo, all I'm saying is: dont be so pesimistic about it. |
Klam
Church of Boom
8
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:35:00 -
[78] - Quote
I'm one of those that's hooked enough on Eve that I'd pickup a PS3 for Dust. Originally, I wasn't going to, but hell many of us buy video cards that cost more then PS3s.
Plan is to just hook it to a monitor on my desk and I'll be trying one of those PS3 mouse controllers for Dust. There is enough downtime in eve, waiting for fleets to form-up, waiting on something to jump to a beacon, hauling **** around the galaxy.... Maybe some instant Pew Pew action from a console game can fill the voids nicely.
Maybe if some of us help test DUST with those PS3 mouse controllers early, then PC gamers will have an easier transition. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
256
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Jack bubu wrote:The restriction has been changed and is now "The DUST 514 private trials will be available only to residents of North America or the European Union / EEA, and all trials will be conducted in English. "
thank you CCP :)
Thats beter CCP , but i still don't have my PS3 to take part in the beta |
DavidJayder
modro ROMANIAN-LEGION
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:37:00 -
[80] - Quote
I really do wish CCP the best with Dust. If Dust does well I'm sure EVE will do well. The non-pc thing is a big problem though and with Planetside 2 coming out that whats probably gonna fill the MMO shooter spot for me. I did sign up for beta so I may dust off my PS3 for it. |
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Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:39:00 -
[81] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:Jon Hellguard wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. /signed -> i'm afraid that awesome extension is going to backfire. eventually the eve players pay the price (or already did) financially. You know there is a huge buzz in PS3 FPS fanbase about this game? Few big clans from MW and BF said they are coming to dust. Soooo, all I'm saying is: dont be so pesimistic about it. I really hope that's the case. I don't want this to fail, despite my inability to play it.
It's a big thing, and a bold project. I don't know how D514's community or other ones feel as when it was announced exclusively to PS3 I simply dropped interest, and have hardly paid it any mind until now. |
MacAodh
T.R.I.A.D
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:40:00 -
[82] - Quote
Will capsuleers be able to interact with players in the Dust beta? Maybe on Sisi? Manu Forti |
Alex Tremayne
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
18
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
Registered and looking forward to getting involved in this. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
22
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:42:00 -
[84] - Quote
Jack bubu wrote:The restriction has been changed and is now "The DUST 514 private trials will be available only to residents of North America or the European Union / EEA, and all trials will be conducted in English. "
thank you CCP :)
Sense in CCP is like a bus in Brazil... it comes late, but it comes. |
riverini
Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.
6
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:45:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:As we move closer to a full release of Dust 514, CCP CmdrWang and the Dust team would like to invite you to register for the opportunity to take part in the Mordu's Private Trials. Click on this link to read the full blog for details on how to register.
I signed yet i don't have playstation plus, is this a mandatory requirement?
R |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
30
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
riverini wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:As we move closer to a full release of Dust 514, CCP CmdrWang and the Dust team would like to invite you to register for the opportunity to take part in the Mordu's Private Trials. Click on this link to read the full blog for details on how to register. I signed yet i don't have playstation plus, is this a mandatory requirement? R
good question. I ask myself this too :) |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:52:00 -
[87] - Quote
Tyke Orlieveit wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:[quote=Jon Hellguard][quote=Ifly Uwalk]no PC - no play.
that is all. I really hope that's the case. I don't want this to fail, despite my inability to play it.
It won't. Dust is Eve for consoles gamers and everything that entails. Interpret that how you like and remember.
Eve. Is. Hard.
And console gamers are getting sick of being force fed clone titles. |
Captain Dreadshadow
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:55:00 -
[88] - Quote
Got a ps3 in anticipation for the game. all ive got is assassins creed atm so geting into the beta would be SWEET :D |
David Magnus
89
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:10:00 -
[89] - Quote
I signed up for the beta. Definitely bought a PS3 earlier this year in anticipation of DUST514 so I hope I get into the beta.
Will we need a PS+ subscription for the beta? I'll get one, but wondering if it will be required. http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/winterupdate http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/supercaps http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/pandemiclegion |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
13
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:11:00 -
[90] - Quote
Signed.
Time to brush up my kb+m skills and see how they can be applied to a console controller (yikes). Doom - Counter-strike - Half-Life - Left 4 Dead, and next Dust514? Can't wait.
This made me wonder though:
Registration form wrote: Are you a Playstation-«Plus subscriber? YesNo
Because I don't want to spend extra on fluff my chances to get in the trial is smaller? Hope not.
Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
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Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:13:00 -
[91] - Quote
will have a ps3 tomorrow for christmas, i asked without game... (and will be)
if i receive beta invite then will sub on playstation plus with pleasure :)
But does this wave of beta will come early next year or we will have to wait Fanfest ? |
Garr Earthbender
Quantum Cats Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:15:00 -
[92] - Quote
That's a decent early Christmas present! Now for the Beta to go love on the 25th! |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
636
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:29:00 -
[93] - Quote
Can we please get some clarification from developers on whether the PSN Network subscription stuff is required for eligibility for the Dust 514 Beta??
There are lots of us who have PS3's on our christmas lists and don't have accounts yet, but are loyal longterm eve players who don't want to be penalized in our chance at the Beta because we haven't set up a Playstation network account yet.
if we want to have the best chance at receiving a Beta invite, should we wait till we have accounts??
Please CCP, give us a fair chance at the Beta - the community needs clarification on whether this impacts our chances of selection.
Thanks!
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
636
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:43:00 -
[94] - Quote
Winters Chill wrote: It won't. Dust is Eve for consoles gamers and everything that entails. Interpret that how you like and remember.
Eve. Is. Hard.
And console gamers are getting sick of being force fed clone titles.
QFT. Dust 514 will quickly gain a reputation amongst l337 gamers as being one of the most hardcore shooters around - adult FPS fans who are tired of the arcade feel of 5-minute matches and unlimited respawns will embrace something as challenging and deep as Dust 514.
Most of us are sick and tired of Halo #11 and Call of Duty #17 and desperate for something more.
To all those saying EvE players don't give a **** about consoles - speak for yourself. Those kind of us vs. them stereotyping is stupid and just smacks of an inflated sense of "nerd superiority" i.e. "my geeky hobby is way cooler than your geeky hobby"
Grow up. There are a lot of great games on consoles, and most of us who play eve play consoles too. Also, stop whining about the money - a PS3 costs less than most of you spent on your video cards alone. Those that want it bad enough can find it in their budgets. Stop buying video cards at outrageous prices the month they hit the market and you'll save those $200 in the normal price drop technology goes through as time passes. |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:49:00 -
[95] - Quote
Also maybe some clarification on WHEN the first round goes out. That way I can stop checking my email every five minutes, |
David Laurentson
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
7
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:03:00 -
[96] - Quote
Do I gain anything if I apply from all my accounts? |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
22
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:06:00 -
[97] - Quote
Noroswen wrote:Also maybe some clarification on WHEN the first round goes out. That way I can stop checking my email every five minutes,
The answer is pretty obvious:
Soon (TM) |
Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
27
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:09:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
True story bro. |
VR Highfive
Raptor Industries Art of War Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:26:00 -
[99] - Quote
I will be looking forward too the YouTube uploads to see the gameplay (I don't own a PS3, if I did I would sign up) |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
42
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:35:00 -
[100] - Quote
Don,t see Eve is about spaceships statements here , strange
Dust is about Eve but it not for PC ,even stranger
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Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
33
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
ya i wanna shoot people in the face.
send that email |
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2011.12.23 18:29:00 -
[102] - Quote
Hecatonis wrote:ya i wanna shoot people in the face.
send that email
not empty quoting.
Send that mail! The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't. |
Hienz Doofenshmirtz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.12.23 18:31:00 -
[103] - Quote
woohoo |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 18:38:00 -
[104] - Quote
Can't. Stop. Checking. Mail. |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1162
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Posted - 2011.12.23 18:47:00 -
[105] - Quote
I seriously doubt you'll get any reply until next year.
Although a confirmation email of registering would be nice, I think I just registered twice with the same account... |
Ogogov
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 18:55:00 -
[106] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:09:00 -
[107] - Quote
Ogogov wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. emptyquoting because-
they are going to hold their breath until they get what they want? |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
250
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:15:00 -
[108] - Quote
YES
YES YES YES
ffffffffffffff , It's really happening, I saw it at fanfest like 4 years ago : ( I can't believe this is real.
finally a reason to dust off my PS3!
*get it? har har har* |
Toyota County
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:16:00 -
[109] - Quote
NO ONE..
should be shocked at any restrictions for one SIMPLE reason... SONY.
Having grown up on PC games and MMO like Everquest, nothing surprises me with SONY Online anymore. They absolutely ruined EQ many years ago, and totally destroyed the aggressive game Vanguard before it was ever released. EQ has a few new ideas that are dragging out the inevitable end to EQ until Sony can release Everquest NEXT (3rd generation EQ). SONY Online is now also the king of FTP games, just look at their games list for FREE GAMES.
I was very excited about DUST and the idea behind it, even more so how EVE players could use DUST and vice versa, but as soon as CCP partnered with SONY I knew it was over and am still very disappointed. The only thing SONY may add is they have a game DC Universe which ties both PC and console players into one universe, but the lag on the PC side has almost destroyed that game, it is now FREE also. Maybe SONY mistakes in that project can help CCP in some way?
Perhaps with a new "leader" at CCP things may change with SONY after DUST official release? I am sure SONY will have the current contract, but maybe CCP will realize that many players, PC EVE and other consoles, would love the chance to try such a new concept of gaming and broaden out in the future. Although I would never want "instant battlegrounds" in EVE, the ability to log into DUST from my PC for some fast ground pew pew could be fun. Currently I use World of Tanks for those quick 20 minute PvP urges when time is tight.
Nice to hear DUST is heading to BETA tho, very exited to see how it changes EVE in the near future. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
250
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:19:00 -
[110] - Quote
Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke?
no, they are just being a good company and letting the few rare people that play eve and own a PS3, the 1st shot at getting into the beta test. I think that's pretty nice of them. Some of us play eve and other PC games... and.. gasp! we also play console games! MADNESS!/
but seriously ccp, thank you for letting us eve players get 1st shot at beta sign ups!
edit: any word on when we will be seeing beta start? |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
27
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:43:00 -
[111] - Quote
Tyke Orlieveit wrote:Wait... didn't someone in CCP say that D514 wasn't aimed at the existing playerbase?
I thought they said the exact opposite of that.
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Don,t see Eve is about spaceships statements here , strange
Dust is about Eve but it not for PC ,even stranger
I was always under the impression that Eve was about a sci-fi universe and as far as I'm concerned walking in station and doing things on planets are part of a sci-fi universe
I guess the only question left is to buy a ps3 or not? |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
30
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:55:00 -
[112] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke? no, they are just being a good company and letting the few rare people that play eve and own a PS3, the 1st shot at getting into the beta test. I think that's pretty nice of them. Some of us play eve and other PC games... and.. gasp! we also play console games! MADNESS!/ but seriously ccp, thank you for letting us eve players get 1st shot at beta sign ups! edit: any word on when we will be seeing beta start?
More, there are even people out there that DONT PLAY EVE, but will be interested in playing DUST. I know, it preposterous :P |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
250
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:59:00 -
[113] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke? no, they are just being a good company and letting the few rare people that play eve and own a PS3, the 1st shot at getting into the beta test. I think that's pretty nice of them. Some of us play eve and other PC games... and.. gasp! we also play console games! MADNESS!/ but seriously ccp, thank you for letting us eve players get 1st shot at beta sign ups! edit: any word on when we will be seeing beta start? More, there are even people out there that DONT PLAY EVE, but will be interested in playing DUST. I know, it preposterous :P
but this is a closed beta. with like tops, 100 testers. |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:02:00 -
[114] - Quote
Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid.
The terms say that it's only an English client, not only available in English speaking territories. Where did you find this snippet? I don't see it anywhere. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
115
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:03:00 -
[115] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke? no, they are just being a good company and letting the few rare people that play eve and own a PS3, the 1st shot at getting into the beta test. I think that's pretty nice of them. Some of us play eve and other PC games... and.. gasp! we also play console games! MADNESS!/ but seriously ccp, thank you for letting us eve players get 1st shot at beta sign ups! edit: any word on when we will be seeing beta start? More, there are even people out there that DONT PLAY EVE, but will be interested in playing DUST. I know, it preposterous :P but this is a closed beta. with like tops, 100 testers. Make that atleast 1000..
only that way you can make sure that enough players will be online the same time to fill atleast some matches. |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
30
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:05:00 -
[116] - Quote
Reiisha wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. The terms say that it's only an English client, not only available in English speaking territories. Where did you find this snippet? I don't see it anywhere.
it was changed. before it was like what he linked |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
215
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:09:00 -
[117] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:Reiisha wrote:Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid. The terms say that it's only an English client, not only available in English speaking territories. Where did you find this snippet? I don't see it anywhere. it was changed. before it was like what he linked
This. What Yldrad quoted was a direct quote from the account page earlier today.
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L'amour Sauvage
Underworld Group
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:10:00 -
[118] - Quote
Signed up. A Question was if we owned a PS3. While I do not own one, does that automatically disqualify???
I would buy one if chosen, just not had possible reason 'til now.
Plus ppl would hear my tears of rage of sub-par FPS skills and DSL connection. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:15:00 -
[119] - Quote
Signed up, ready and waiting. |
Cloora
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
46
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:29:00 -
[120] - Quote
I bought a PS3 specifically for DUST. Hell, I spent $400 US for a Radeon 6970 just for EVE.
Sorry for you poor people. :-( CEO and Major ShareholderAPEX ConglomerateMaker of Starsi softdrinks and Torped-Os! Cereal http://www.altaholics.blogspot.com
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Cal Gin
The Necromonger
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:40:00 -
[121] - Quote
All i need is my Check in January and i will buy my PS3 the buggers better not count me out cause i'm not on PSN yet... |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:47:00 -
[122] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke? no, they are just being a good company and letting the few rare people that play eve and own a PS3, the 1st shot at getting into the beta test. I think that's pretty nice of them. Some of us play eve and other PC games... and.. gasp! we also play console games! MADNESS!/ but seriously ccp, thank you for letting us eve players get 1st shot at beta sign ups!
QFT
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Leovarian Lavitz
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 21:21:00 -
[123] - Quote
I greatly appreciate the opportunity you give us by allowing us to help you vet out your Dust 514 features while hunting down bugs to make a better game for everyone. |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 21:31:00 -
[124] - Quote
Leovarian Lavitz wrote:I greatly appreciate the opportunity you give us by allowing us to help you vet out your Dust 514 features while hunting down bugs to make a better game for everyone.
Same, now send out the damn emails. |
Kasidis
Noble Company
2
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Posted - 2011.12.23 21:32:00 -
[125] - Quote
Confirming that Aurum is already on the playstation store before the actual game is. I just thought all you might find that funny. Anyway, CCP you better accept me into these trials. Happy Holidays!!! |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe Band of Abos
46
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Posted - 2011.12.23 22:41:00 -
[126] - Quote
CCP... you doomed the games potential when you made it PS3 only... how hard was it to be on PC also? (I know Microsoft are some assholes, but the PC wouldn't have been limited like Xbox 360 was)
I would love to play Dust, but I will never get the chance, because i'm never going to buy a PS3 unless someone gave me one for free |
Leovarian Lavitz
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
3
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Posted - 2011.12.23 22:52:00 -
[127] - Quote
Bubanni wrote:CCP... you doomed the games potential when you made it PS3 only... how hard was it to be on PC also? (I know Microsoft are some assholes, but the PC wouldn't have been limited like Xbox 360 was)
I would love to play Dust, but I will never get the chance, because i'm never going to buy a PS3 unless someone gave me one for free
Microsoft was not as open as Sony to the concept of a MMOFPS on their console connected to other platforms. They already said this.
I feel that Sony is also providing invaluable resources and experience to turn Dust 514 from an interesting game into a Genre altering game, and in return CCP agreed to an exclusive for whatever duration they discussed.
I personally feel that you should be gratefully thanking Sony and CCP for partnering, CCP did not have console development experience beforehand and now have garnered a much greater game development experience aboard the PS3. They are also singularly focusing their efforts on a single hardware platform with very few variations. This greatly enables them to focus on rapid game development while reducing QA costs.
It benefits us all for them to go this route for now. They may bring it to other platforms in the future (4 years or more), when they do those platforms will all benefit from the laser focused development pace currently kept by CCP Shanghai and the dust team. |
Elite-ASH11
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:45:00 -
[128] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Signed, Begin mass orbital bombardments in protest. |
Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan
106
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Posted - 2011.12.24 01:41:00 -
[129] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
ditto. I'd love to try it out, but .... hmmm is there a PS3 emulator out there for the PC
Elite-ASH11 wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Signed, Begin mass orbital bombardments in protest.
yes yes, I would be glad to help with orbital bombardment tests :) |
Selinate
178
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Posted - 2011.12.24 03:18:00 -
[130] - Quote
Why does playstation plus matter? just curious... |
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Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
34
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Posted - 2011.12.24 03:20:00 -
[131] - Quote
i will make sure the skyfire batteries are ready for ya'll |
Aethan Epple
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 05:31:00 -
[132] - Quote
PlayStation Plus subscribers are generally invited into Betas as a "perk" of membership. Probably the same applies here.
If we've already submitted our private trials application, then subscribe to Plus, can we update our application? |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
115
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Posted - 2011.12.24 08:49:00 -
[133] - Quote
Aethan Epple wrote:PlayStation Plus subscribers are generally invited into Betas as a "perk" of membership. Probably the same applies here.
If we've already submitted our private trials application, then subscribe to Plus, can we update our application? you could have just klicked yes on that question anyway, it doesnt ask for you account afterwards or anything. |
Venkul Mul
Vikramaditya
5
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Posted - 2011.12.24 10:12:00 -
[134] - Quote
From the 2 weapon descriptions in the Dust site:
Gallente (light) assault rifle max effective range 55 m Caldari (heavy) forge gun max effective range 1.200 m
Ikes, infantry blasters.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
3326
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Posted - 2011.12.24 10:32:00 -
[135] - Quote
We bought out daughter a PS3 for Xmas, therefore I would like access to this beta please.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2011.12.24 10:34:00 -
[136] - Quote
I have a PSX emulator, how can I help? |
Hienz Doofenshmirtz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.12.24 12:04:00 -
[137] - Quote
DUST 514: MorduGÇÖs Private Trials
so does this mean that Mordu of Mordu's legion running the trials? |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
137
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Posted - 2011.12.24 12:14:00 -
[138] - Quote
CCP
HOW DARE YOU TRY TO CASH IN ON CONSOLE GAMERS BY MAKING A CONSOLE GAME
OBVIOUSLY A PC GAME IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE USED
ALSO I HAPPEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A PS3
- YOURS
A TYPICALLY ******** SINGLE-PLATFORM-OWNING CHILD [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.12.24 13:31:00 -
[139] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:CCP
HOW DARE YOU TRY TO CASH IN ON CONSOLE GAMERS BY MAKING A CONSOLE GAME
OBVIOUSLY A PC GAME IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE USED
ALSO I HAPPEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A PS3
- YOURS
A TYPICALLY ******** SINGLE-PLATFORM-OWNING CHILD
Srsly, why the hate?
They've chosen console to get different audience. To propagate idea of EVE to broader range of people.
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Avensys
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
1
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:23:00 -
[140] - Quote
Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair.
Supposedly this is due to the keyboard/mouse combo being more accurate, faster, ... than console controllers?
So what about pitting PS3 users with keyboard/mouse against PS3 users with weird controllers vs PS3 users with vanilla controllers?
cause that doesn't seem to be a problem for CCP
Quote:WILL CCP BE MAKING SURE THE SHARPSHOOTER/MOVE WILL BE FULLY COMPETITIVE WITH DS3 USERS?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on. http://dust514.org/home/item/everything-we-wanted-to-know-about-dust-514-and-weren-t-afraid-to-ask?category_id=1 |
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Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:30:00 -
[141] - Quote
Avensys wrote:Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Supposedly this is due to the keyboard/mouse combo being more accurate, faster, ... than console controllers? So what about pitting PS3 users with keyboard/mouse against PS3 users with weird controllers vs PS3 users with vanilla controllers? cause that doesn't seem to be a problem for CCP Quote:WILL CCP BE MAKING SURE THE SHARPSHOOTER/MOVE WILL BE FULLY COMPETITIVE WITH DS3 USERS?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on. http://dust514.org/home/item/everything-we-wanted-to-know-about-dust-514-and-weren-t-afraid-to-ask?category_id=1The PC-only decision is probably due to benefits from the partnership with Sony and due to CCP not wanting to cannibalize the EVE userbase for DUST (would you just play DUST when you would have played other shooters or would DUST make you cut back on your EVE time?).
The thing everybody doesn't seem to get is that there is no official keyboard/mouse for ps3 and those 3rd party mouses are hacks that alter the signal to avoid the deadzone for example. It's not something you can prevent people from doing but it's still not a sanctioned action. |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
74
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:34:00 -
[142] - Quote
Keatro wrote:Avensys wrote:Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Supposedly this is due to the keyboard/mouse combo being more accurate, faster, ... than console controllers? So what about pitting PS3 users with keyboard/mouse against PS3 users with weird controllers vs PS3 users with vanilla controllers? cause that doesn't seem to be a problem for CCP Quote:WILL CCP BE MAKING SURE THE SHARPSHOOTER/MOVE WILL BE FULLY COMPETITIVE WITH DS3 USERS?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on. http://dust514.org/home/item/everything-we-wanted-to-know-about-dust-514-and-weren-t-afraid-to-ask?category_id=1The PC-only decision is probably due to benefits from the partnership with Sony and due to CCP not wanting to cannibalize the EVE userbase for DUST (would you just play DUST when you would have played other shooters or would DUST make you cut back on your EVE time?). The thing everybody doesn't seem to get is that there is no official keyboard/mouse for ps3 and those 3rd party mouses are hacks that alter the signal to avoid the deadzone for example. It's not something you can prevent people from doing but it's still not a sanctioned action.
You realise it's called a USB keyboard and mouse? It's that same thing you (most likely unless you use PS/2 or [shudder] Serial) use with your computer. It's up to the developer whether they allow them or not. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:58:00 -
[143] - Quote
Grideris wrote:Keatro wrote:Avensys wrote:Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Supposedly this is due to the keyboard/mouse combo being more accurate, faster, ... than console controllers? So what about pitting PS3 users with keyboard/mouse against PS3 users with weird controllers vs PS3 users with vanilla controllers? cause that doesn't seem to be a problem for CCP Quote:WILL CCP BE MAKING SURE THE SHARPSHOOTER/MOVE WILL BE FULLY COMPETITIVE WITH DS3 USERS?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on. http://dust514.org/home/item/everything-we-wanted-to-know-about-dust-514-and-weren-t-afraid-to-ask?category_id=1The PC-only decision is probably due to benefits from the partnership with Sony and due to CCP not wanting to cannibalize the EVE userbase for DUST (would you just play DUST when you would have played other shooters or would DUST make you cut back on your EVE time?). The thing everybody doesn't seem to get is that there is no official keyboard/mouse for ps3 and those 3rd party mouses are hacks that alter the signal to avoid the deadzone for example. It's not something you can prevent people from doing but it's still not a sanctioned action. You realise it's called a USB keyboard and mouse? It's that same thing you (most likely unless you use PS/2 or [shudder] Serial) use with your computer. It's up to the developer whether they allow them or not.
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OOooole
nina k Corp
14
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Posted - 2011.12.24 17:48:00 -
[144] - Quote
hahah closed beta for ps3 Nice joke CCCP
no Black ops boost ? then bye bye ccp and welcom gw2 |
Silens Venator
WH United
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 17:50:00 -
[145] - Quote
I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The second my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also. |
J Kunjeh
122
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Posted - 2011.12.24 18:32:00 -
[146] - Quote
Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The second my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also.
All I could read was "whaaaaa!!" "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.24 18:53:00 -
[147] - Quote
J Kunjeh wrote:Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The second my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also. All I could read was "whaaaaa!!"
Also me, i think there's something wrong with him. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
239
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Posted - 2011.12.24 19:04:00 -
[148] - Quote
Keatro wrote:J Kunjeh wrote:Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The second my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also. All I could read was "whaaaaa!!" Also me, i think there's something wrong with him.
not empty quotin'
Lookin' forward to this. One of my buddies at work came across the trailer the other day and we started chatting about it ... he might just give up on CoD for this one... or at least long enough to check it out. |
Talia Nachtigall
Insanely Twisted
8
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Posted - 2011.12.24 19:31:00 -
[149] - Quote
No PC variant. No X360 variant. Sorry CCP but I'm out. I won't be buying a Playstation3 for a single game.
I will however make it my mission in Eve Online to make the console kiddies as miserable as possible. We can haz orbital bombardment? Don't pray for my soul. ;) |
Silens Venator
WH United
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 19:43:00 -
[150] - Quote
Troll away, doesn't matter to me. I pay for EVE to play EVE not to play with or against another game. With all the screaming about P2W in EVE do you not think there is going to be Unicorn Ammo in DUST as is standard with most all console games?
P2W by proxy=P2W period. |
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TeraDmc
TeraCorp Elite Sardaukar Guard
11
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Posted - 2011.12.24 20:28:00 -
[151] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
...Sigh :( |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
251
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Posted - 2011.12.24 20:30:00 -
[152] - Quote
I'd love to hear some numbers on like, how many beta testers you'll be taking, and stuff like how many eve players have signed up.
how many months until beta starts
how many players per battle in dust match
How big the download will be, so i can clear some space
you know, stuff like that : ) |
TeraDmc
TeraCorp Elite Sardaukar Guard
11
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Posted - 2011.12.24 20:30:00 -
[153] - Quote
Want... now.
I'm a 3 yr eve'r and a long time PS3 FPS'r with a PSN Plus account.
I'm perfect... gimme |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2011.12.24 20:34:00 -
[154] - Quote
Silens Venator wrote:Troll away, doesn't matter to me. I pay for EVE to play EVE not to play with or against another game. With all the screaming about P2W in EVE do you not think there is going to be Unicorn Ammo in DUST as is standard with most all console games?
P2W by proxy=P2W period.
I think your reaction is pretty sad (as in unhappy). I don't think you've really thought about this; we don't really know how dust will impact on eve. And to be frank, puffing your cheeks out and stomping your feet just makes you look childish.
Why don't you wait and see what happens before abandoning your hobby for a worse case scenario that exists purely in your head.
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Silens Venator
WH United
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 20:46:00 -
[155] - Quote
Winters Chill wrote:I think your reaction is pretty sad (as in unhappy). I don't think you've really thought about this; we don't really know how dust will impact on eve. And to be frank, puffing your cheeks out and stomping your feet just makes you look childish. Why don't you wait and see what happens before abandoning your hobby for a worse case scenario that exists purely in your head.
Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The SECOND my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
217
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Posted - 2011.12.24 21:19:00 -
[156] - Quote
Winters Chill wrote:Silens Venator wrote:Troll away, doesn't matter to me. I pay for EVE to play EVE not to play with or against another game. With all the screaming about P2W in EVE do you not think there is going to be Unicorn Ammo in DUST as is standard with most all console games?
P2W by proxy=P2W period. I think your reaction is pretty sad (as in unhappy). I don't think you've really thought about this; we don't really know how dust will impact on eve. And to be frank, puffing your cheeks out and stomping your feet just makes you look childish. Why don't you wait and see what happens before abandoning your hobby for a worse case scenario that exists purely in your head.
Don't waste your time trying to convince him of anything. He didn't post because he is interested in discussing things. When people get in his state of mind, they stop being reasonable and will stubbornly cling to their perception of things no matter how silly it actually is. He's here to publicly stamp his foot down and that's it. The only thing left is to do is to see whether he actually leaves or not when DUST finally arrives. |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.24 23:14:00 -
[157] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:Winters Chill wrote:Silens Venator wrote:Troll away, doesn't matter to me. I pay for EVE to play EVE not to play with or against another game. With all the screaming about P2W in EVE do you not think there is going to be Unicorn Ammo in DUST as is standard with most all console games?
P2W by proxy=P2W period. I think your reaction is pretty sad (as in unhappy). I don't think you've really thought about this; we don't really know how dust will impact on eve. And to be frank, puffing your cheeks out and stomping your feet just makes you look childish. Why don't you wait and see what happens before abandoning your hobby for a worse case scenario that exists purely in your head. Don't waste your time trying to convince him of anything. He didn't post because he is interested in discussing things. When people get in his state of mind, they stop being reasonable and will stubbornly cling to their perception of things no matter how silly it actually is. He's here to publicly stamp his foot down and that's it. The only thing left is to do is to see whether he actually leaves or not when DUST finally arrives.
He won't. It's like the people that were bitching when Modern Warfare 2 came out, almost all in the steam group were playing the game.
People whine because they think it changes things, but i think incarna proved that if you actually do what you threathening with it can actually have an effect. The effect in this case is of course that i'm happy to have one less of his kind in the game. |
Athelas Loraiel
StarFleet Enterprises RED.Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 23:43:00 -
[158] - Quote
Need anyone say more?
GIVE us prescious....
Of course Im buying PS. and teaching all my three kids to use it -. they apsorbed slave mining ages ago, hehehe...
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
638
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Posted - 2011.12.25 01:25:00 -
[159] - Quote
Athelas Loraiel wrote:Need anyone say more?
GIVE us prescious....
Of course Im buying PS. and teaching all my three kids to use it -. they apsorbed slave mining ages ago, hehehe...
What exactly are CONCORD's laws on child labor anyways?? This brings up an interesting question... |
Noumena
the Organ Grinder and Company Higginbotham and Bailey's Circus
0
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Posted - 2011.12.25 01:41:00 -
[160] - Quote
I for one came back to eve because of Dust. What you are doing is revolutionary. Please send out the mails before Winter Break ends. |
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Davelantor
The Resistance Movement The Unforgiven Alliance
31
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Posted - 2011.12.25 08:50:00 -
[161] - Quote
I love the Dust concept and how its related with EVE, would be delighted to play it on PC.
But i give it at least 6 months before attention of the general population shifts to something new. CCP better have a way of bringing this feature to its loyal PC user base or it will be dead horse in the race. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2011.12.25 09:03:00 -
[162] - Quote
Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The SECOND my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also.
So basically, even though I failed my reading comprehension check, I was right, your still being premature. Still think its a tragedy you and so many other are negative right off the bat.
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jizzlez
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:15:00 -
[163] - Quote
Makes me sad in the pants that i dont have a PS3.Prolly couldnt play anyway due to my EvE addiction. |
jizzlez
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:22:00 -
[164] - Quote
Silens Venator wrote:I've already unsubbed 4 accts because EVE is going to crap. The second my in-game EVE play is affected by someone playing a separate game on a box the remaining 3 are history also.
We need more like you to quit.Please dont contract your stuff or give it to anyone.It has your meeba's all over it.Anyone who needs 7 accounts in a MMO should stick to singleplayer.As if you could show any proof of you having 7 accounts to begin with.The unsubbing excuse is gettin old.But i consider you using it a blessing.Give us all a merry x-mas and click the unsub button 3 mo' times.Be like NIKE...Jus DOIT!
Also.Do you not play a game on a box yourself?Considering a PC tower looks more like a box than a PS3.What about all the devs usin a different box than your box to effect the game you play on your box.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
252
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Posted - 2011.12.25 18:54:00 -
[165] - Quote
I wouldn't care so much if i wasn't on my school break right now... but seriously... how long untill beta? I mean I've gotten the run around before.... *cough* jumpgate evolution* *cough*
Why can't you guys just give a rough date, with no promises, so we know if we are signing up for a beta test now, or if we are signing up for a beta test to take pace after fanfest.
: (
come on, seriously |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.25 19:46:00 -
[166] - Quote
It looks we don't get ANY answer before Christmas ends i guess
About anything we where asking in that thread.
So lets just go home, nothing to see here until then :P |
J Kunjeh
122
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Posted - 2011.12.25 22:59:00 -
[167] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:It looks we don't get ANY answer before Christmas ends i guess
About anything we where asking in that thread.
So lets just go home, nothing to see here until then :P
Oh, you pooor baby...what, you're mad because they didn't interrupt their holiday time for you? Waaah. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.25 23:46:00 -
[168] - Quote
J Kunjeh wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:It looks we don't get ANY answer before Christmas ends i guess
About anything we where asking in that thread.
So lets just go home, nothing to see here until then :P Oh, you pooor baby...what, you're mad because they didn't interrupt their holiday time for you? Waaah.
I'm quite sure it was simply a telling that we might as well put off with the questions until after new years. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
252
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:26:00 -
[169] - Quote
J Kunjeh wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:It looks we don't get ANY answer before Christmas ends i guess
About anything we where asking in that thread.
So lets just go home, nothing to see here until then :P Oh, you pooor baby...what, you're mad because they didn't interrupt their holiday time for you? Waaah.
what does being angry have to do with it? just surprising they posted a dev blog so important right as the break started :P |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2011.12.26 02:01:00 -
[170] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:... just surprising they posted a dev blog so important right as the break started :P
Makes sense to me.
They probably opened it before the holiday so that they could allow sufficient applications to accrue over that time. They get back to work on whenever and they got a nice large pile of applications to sort through. |
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Oxylan
1 Caldaryjski Pluton Uderzeniowy
0
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Posted - 2011.12.26 02:58:00 -
[171] - Quote
In theory DUST may push a lot new people inside EVE world, in fact a lot players use conoles as game platform this mean those milions customers are potencialy new EVE subscibers, because after they play DUST maybe they want try other side ( EVE). |
bob Patrouette
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.26 08:29:00 -
[172] - Quote
I would like to know if there are any plans to develop the game on to the tablet platform. As I own one but not a PS3. (Sent from my tablet)
There is no 'I'in team but there is a 'me'!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
252
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Posted - 2011.12.26 09:12:00 -
[173] - Quote
bob Patrouette wrote:I would like to know if there are any plans to develop the game on to the tablet platform. As I own one but not a PS3. (Sent from my tablet)
There is no 'I'in team but there is a 'me'!
This seem to be planing on moving eve itself onto tablets. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 11:41:00 -
[174] - Quote
asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
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Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
3
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Posted - 2011.12.26 12:23:00 -
[175] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 14:39:00 -
[176] - Quote
Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live.
still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.12.26 14:58:00 -
[177] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!!
welp, it's supposed to be fighting for control of PI what do PI products enable? that's right spaceships, so i'll allow it
it is like if i went on second life and raged where's the spaceships |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:52:00 -
[178] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! welp, it's supposed to be fighting for control of PI what do PI products enable? that's right spaceships, so i'll allow it
it is not involving flying in space ,so i do what every body is screaming in these forums lately ,its not about spaceships,so not worth the effort.
edit its about 0.0 space anyway and 0.0 is boring ,everybody says that |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:18:00 -
[179] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! welp, it's supposed to be fighting for control of PI what do PI products enable? that's right spaceships, so i'll allow it it is not involving flying in space ,so i do what every body is screaming in these forums lately ,its not about spaceships,so not worth the effort. edit its about 0.0 space anyway and 0.0 is boring ,everybody says that and let me guess,you have a PS3 and let me guess you are a barbie dressup fan mad about no doll house there are many things in eve that are not spaceships fis but are there to enable spaceship fis-ing and therefore "worth the effort" eg inventions, manufacturing
wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:33:00 -
[180] - Quote
Taiwanistan [/quote wrote:
it is not involving flying in space ,so i do what every body is screaming in these forums lately ,its not about spaceships,so not worth the effort.
edit its about 0.0 space anyway and 0.0 is boring ,everybody says that
and let me guess,you have a PS3 and let me guess you are a barbie dressup fan mad about no doll house there are many things in eve that are not spaceships fis but are there to enable spaceship fis-ing and therefore "worth the effort" eg inventions, manufacturing
ouch you got me but i am not mad about no doll house i am mad of lack of info when asked i am mad that people forget DUST is 1 of those projects ,removing resources from EVE Resources with the endresult ,consolecrap Don,t mind DUST ,as long EVE related stuff has priority, Don,t mind DUST,as long we don,t have only FISwhiners Don,t mind DUST ,the pcpart of EVE is happy Don,t mind DUST if its development is not payed by EVE PCplayers
and you right i want info on Barbies, |
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Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:33:00 -
[181] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
and let me guess,you have a PS3
I see you tried to infer in a passive aggressive way some kind of innate inferiority in a point a of view by predicting ownership of a PS3 games console.
You don't win any prizes for that. Considering nearly everyone excited about dust has a PS3.
Anyway we get it, you don't like Dust 514. You can stop trolling now.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
273
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Posted - 2011.12.26 18:04:00 -
[182] - Quote
Signed up.
The butthurt trolls in this thread are hilarious. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Support our boobies!-á[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24221&find=unread[/url]
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 18:10:00 -
[183] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Signed up.
The butthurt trolls in this thread are hilarious.
indeed
just like some troll post in some 80 + thread . trying to get those trolls to this side of the forum. sorry for trying to derail this post ,But don,t like DUST the way it is now anyway,so getting those idiots to this post sure would help |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
5
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Posted - 2011.12.26 18:19:00 -
[184] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Signed up.
The butthurt trolls in this thread are hilarious. indeed just like some troll post in some 80 + thread . trying to get those trolls to this side of the forum. sorry for trying to derail this post ,But don,t like DUST the way it is now anyway,so getting those idiots to this post sure would help
It's lovely how we have all these whiners who apparently think that because you pay for eve you have a say in what CCP does with those money. If their choice is to develop another game then they have all the right in the world to do so, and they are doing it, no matter what such a vocal minority thinks about it.
Seriously, get the dildo out of your ass and be happy with the game you got, or simply quit. I'd actually prefer if you did the latter. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
253
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Posted - 2011.12.26 19:17:00 -
[185] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!!
HIS JUST IN! MAKERS OF MASS EFFECT HAVE HIRED A NEW TEAM TO MAKE A NEW GAME! THUS TAKING AWAY RESOURCES FROM MASS EFFECT! RIOT!
doesn't cpp know that every game company on the planet is only allowed to make one game ever?
idoits |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
34
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Posted - 2011.12.26 19:33:00 -
[186] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! HIS JUST IN! MAKERS OF MASS EFFECT HAVE HIRED A NEW TEAM TO MAKE A NEW GAME! THUS TAKING AWAY RESOURCES FROM MASS EFFECT! RIOT! doesn't cpp know that every game company on the planet is only allowed to make one game ever? idoits
Yeah, and I've heard that Blizzard is using WoW money to make not one, but TWO GAMES - diablo and starcraft. That preposterous !!!!!!11oneoneeleven |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
253
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Posted - 2011.12.26 21:06:00 -
[187] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:MotherMoon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! HIS JUST IN! MAKERS OF MASS EFFECT HAVE HIRED A NEW TEAM TO MAKE A NEW GAME! THUS TAKING AWAY RESOURCES FROM MASS EFFECT! RIOT! doesn't cpp know that every game company on the planet is only allowed to make one game ever? idoits Yeah, and I've heard that Blizzard is using WoW money to make not one, but TWO GAMES - diablo and starcraft. That preposterous !!!!!!11oneoneeleven
Think of much better wow would be with over 400 extra devs, and how much more money that would mean for blizzard.
becuase we all know the more people you throw at a project the better it gets Also we all know that game campines will make more money by putting all of the money they make into a single product.
It'as not like eve had kick ass expansions 3 years ago with only 50-80 devs |
Keatro
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
5
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Posted - 2011.12.26 21:54:00 -
[188] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:MotherMoon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!!
HIS JUST IN! MAKERS OF MASS EFFECT HAVE HIRED A NEW TEAM TO MAKE A NEW GAME! THUS TAKING AWAY RESOURCES FROM MASS EFFECT! RIOT! doesn't cpp know that every game company on the planet is only allowed to make one game ever? idoits Yeah, and I've heard that Blizzard is using WoW money to make not one, but TWO GAMES - diablo and starcraft. That preposterous !!!!!!11oneoneeleven Think of much better wow would be with over 400 extra devs, and how much more money that would mean for blizzard. becuase we all know the more people you throw at a project the better it gets Also we all know that game campines will make more money by putting all of the money they make into a single product. It'as not like eve had kick ass expansions 3 years ago with only 50-80 devs
I'm getting some serious sarcasm vibes here!
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2011.12.26 23:04:00 -
[189] - Quote
Signed up. I hope to join you folks in some jump-n-shoot moments. |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
22
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Posted - 2011.12.26 23:26:00 -
[190] - Quote
Um, I signed up, but I don't think I'll be doing anything without that Playstation. DIAF many times, Dusties, and have fun.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.12.27 02:42:00 -
[191] - Quote
the whole point of dust is to get monies from ps3 duders, also the premise of fps shooting ppl with guns is much less offensive than space barbie dress up doll house, back to the point, dust is made by ccp shanghai, all that office does is dust, has nothing to do with eve and wod, those guys probably specialize in fps programming and don't know how to program python spaceships
wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted. |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 04:05:00 -
[192] - Quote
so ya, how long before they send out the first batch of invites? |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
76
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Posted - 2011.12.27 04:45:00 -
[193] - Quote
thub wrote:so ya, how long before they send out the first batch of invites?
No set date from CCP yet. My guess is second week of January. So next week. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Gevlin
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
51
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Posted - 2011.12.27 09:19:00 -
[194] - Quote
Okay just bought a PS3 with move - Boxing day sales
Must say the Move is alot more accurate then the Wii Plus I have
and I have signed up for Sony plus
Think I am going to pick up a dance pad as a possible way of moving my selt with foot commands, to get in to the full feel of things.
I hope there are bindable buttons
Get a full body work out with dust. An excersis game for the 1337 gamers..... though playing games and excersises don't often fall in the same sentance.
Hope I make the cut! I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
orange offspring
Black Core Federation Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 14:03:00 -
[195] - Quote
Just wondering if there is an ETA on when the keys get picked? |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
46
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:58:00 -
[196] - Quote
soon -¡ß¦É |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:58:00 -
[197] - Quote
orange offspring wrote:Just wondering if there is an ETA on when the keys get picked?
One of the senior execs of CCP just tweeted about a Dust game he was in. Today.
Infer from that what you will.
Tbh I'm starting to wear my mail box out, its not use to this much attention. |
Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
35
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Posted - 2011.12.27 16:30:00 -
[198] - Quote
Winters Chill wrote:orange offspring wrote:Just wondering if there is an ETA on when the keys get picked? One of the senior execs of CCP just tweeted about a Dust game he was in. Today. Infer from that what you will. Tbh I'm starting to wear my mail box out, its not use to this much attention.
agreed. i dont need to check my email much, i can get away with once a week, but now its like 4 times a day.
it would be better if i knew where the email is coming from so i could just aprove the sender and not have to check my junk mail all the time. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
253
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:01:00 -
[199] - Quote
OMG i can almost taste it O.O
watching you guys play dust 514 on stage all those years ago was painful D: |
Aegis Stormborn
Maru Ka'ge. White Noise.
4
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:32:00 -
[200] - Quote
PICK ME! PICK ME! PICK ME!
All signed up.
TO THE HATERS:
PS3 is only a few hundred $. If you don't have that you need to pick up a job and put down the games! |
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Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 23:13:00 -
[201] - Quote
Dust 514 Got me to Sub to Eve and now I'm hooked! I hope all that apply get in seeing how it doesn't look to have much faith from Eve players. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
46
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Posted - 2011.12.28 09:19:00 -
[202] - Quote
Aegis Stormborn wrote:PICK ME! PICK ME! PICK ME!
All signed up.
TO THE HATERS:
PS3 is only a few hundred $. If you don't have that you need to pick up a job and put down the games!
You are a smart guy
telling consolehaters to buy an console |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
298
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Posted - 2011.12.28 11:50:00 -
[203] - Quote
Signed up as North America, reporting for duty. |
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
0
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:31:00 -
[204] - Quote
I planned to get a ps3 when the time had come but maaaan, this post costed me nearly 200 Gé¼
call me back froody guys |
Aegis Stormborn
Maru Ka'ge. White Noise.
4
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Posted - 2011.12.28 17:04:00 -
[205] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
You are a smart guy
telling consolehaters to buy an console
Smart like insisting something developed specifically for a console should be put on PC because a few people 'prefer PCs'?
QQ more.
It has to be a console to work, so either buy one and HTFU or quit yer bitchin. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2011.12.29 01:01:00 -
[206] - Quote
Deviana Sevidon wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP
FPS are not console dominant and will remain console dominant don't like it quit playing games or grow up and pick up an xbox
CCP chose the wrong console and IMO the wrong time ( dust would have sold a lot more being a next gen launch title if its good) but its ok, i have a PS3 and maybe its time to dust it off if i get a beta test ( no pun intended)
how will we get the beta invite though? assuming email? or eve gate? both? |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
31
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Posted - 2011.12.29 04:30:00 -
[207] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:Deviana Sevidon wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Had to be quoted again to perhaps get the message across to CCP FPS are not console dominant and will remain console dominant don't like it quit playing games or grow up and pick up an xbox CCP chose the wrong console and IMO the wrong time ( dust would have sold a lot more being a next gen launch title if its good) but its ok, i have a PS3 and maybe its time to dust it off if i get a beta test ( no pun intended) how will we get the beta invite though? assuming email? or eve gate? both?
The PS3 still has a long life ahead of it if the PS2 is any indication.
Dust will also work on the PS4+ for that matter. CCP wouldn't have gone for such an exclusivity deal if the game was going to be locked on the PS3 - Sony for that matter has learned it's lesson regarding backwards compatability, they will not be shipping a new console without it having access to the library of the previous ones. It's what made the PS2 shine even early on in it's life cycle, having access to the vast library of the PS1. Because the PS3 could not (reliably) play PS2 titles (and not at all after the very first hardware update), it's sales suffered due to a lack of good games available during it's first year. Sony isn't going to repeat this mistake again.
Dust will also eventually be released on the PC. It's inevitable. |
Fallout Mayhem
IIsengard
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 09:12:00 -
[208] - Quote
Signed up and reporting for duty. |
Lord Okinaba
14
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Posted - 2011.12.29 11:23:00 -
[209] - Quote
Does being a Playstation Gold subscriber effect your chances of selection? |
doogymoogy
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 12:20:00 -
[210] - Quote
Lock and Load |
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
47
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Posted - 2011.12.29 15:06:00 -
[211] - Quote
Aegis Stormborn wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
You are a smart guy
telling consolehaters to buy an console
Smart like insisting something developed specifically for a console should be put on PC because a few people 'prefer PCs'? QQ more. It has to be a console to work, so either buy one and HTFU or quit yer bitchin.
Don,t care if it comes to PC ,if yes .maybe i try it,if no ,who cares
The only thing i am afraid of is that when this concolecrap beta comes live a lot of resources a a moved away from the PC game that making this ***** possible. And everybody is bitching about resources ,so why not me for a change.
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Knarf Truesdale
Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:11:00 -
[212] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
+1 |
J Kunjeh
149
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:58:00 -
[213] - Quote
Reiisha wrote: Dust will also work on the PS4+ for that matter. CCP wouldn't have gone for such an exclusivity deal if the game was going to be locked on the PS3 - Sony for that matter has learned it's lesson regarding backwards compatability, they will not be shipping a new console without it having access to the library of the previous ones. It's what made the PS2 shine even early on in it's life cycle, having access to the vast library of the PS1. Because the PS3 could not (reliably) play PS2 titles (and not at all after the very first hardware update), it's sales suffered due to a lack of good games available during it's first year. Sony isn't going to repeat this mistake again.
I agree with you that Sony won't miss the boat on backwards compatibility with the PS3, I can't agree that the PS3 doesn't' reliably play PS2 and PS1 games. Mine does just fine (then again, I have a model with the PS2's Emotion Engine chip in it, not the emulated PS2 models). "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Adoniah Carrefour
the Whatley Brothers
0
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Posted - 2011.12.30 03:02:00 -
[214] - Quote
The whole reason I have been playing this awesome game for the last two months is in anticipation of DUST514. Let me in I beg you!! |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.12.30 06:17:00 -
[215] - Quote
Can't play EVE right now because of computer issues. My super-awesome PC blew up back in September, when Hydro switched out the meters by all appearances. Anyway: Too damn expensive to fix, so I'm a console Cuthbert for now.
Only reason I reactivated my sub is to post a suggestion or two in assembly hall and features and ideas, and to sign up for the Dust 514 beta. Happy me! The Beta wasn't enough incentive honestly, as I'm strapped for cash with work shortages and an off-chance isn't good enough reason by itself.
I'll be happy to test the beta and have a bit of fun if I get in. Some questions though..
Q: How long can a player expect to be in the beta?
Q: Is the Aurum on the Playstation Store free? Yes, that was a little ironic.
Q: Can we expect to keep our skillpoint progression and characters beyond beta? Minus Aurum and related purchases and aquisistions in Beta of course. Be nice to gain some advantage for participating.
Also, I still am 1100% against release of Dust on PC. I've spoken to at least one avid console gamer who, although aware of hacks on the console made available by USB keyboards, was completely unfamiliar with the level of hacking seen on PC.
He's a kid so he can be forgiven for hacking imo, but I still told him how much it pissed me and many others off and made sure he understood I consider it unacceptable to cheat for any reason in a game, even if it's just to unlock items for play as he apparently was.
Regardless, he had no awareness of any hacks that made available bounding boxes, and various other features available in hacks on PC, and even thought they were absurdely unfair. The things that really take the fun out of the games for honest players.
Personally, I regard hacking to be a form of griefing intentioned at other players enjoyment of the game in FPS. It's not just about personal satisfaction and kill ratios for FPS hackers on PC, but about depreciating the value of the game for everyone else.
Anyway, consoles are proven to be relatively hackproof, and PSN apparently has a ban and/or brick approach to dealing with hackers which is fine in my book.
PC has no means of control for dealing with hackers, aside from perhaps Steam and VAC policies which could be improved, but would require Steam to provide client updates directly in order to prevent games from migrating off Steam. Dust 514 would also have to be designed for PC in such a fashion that non-steam clients could not connect to server, so it would be Steam exclusive in that event.
There's more that could be done beyond that to help prevent such activities from affecting Dust 514 gameplay and, indirectly, EVE gameplay. |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
19
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Posted - 2011.12.30 19:03:00 -
[216] - Quote
hired goon wrote:I bought a brand new Core i7 and Nvidia GTX 590 just for this game! I am so pumped, can't wait!!!!
This was a joke, right? yes? |
Kujo Minowara
Solitary Ground
12
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Posted - 2012.01.01 22:04:00 -
[217] - Quote
I'm really excited for the future release of DUST 514, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so signing for beta would only mean to steal some other the possibility to play =)
CCP, please let us know when the possibility to interact with beta testers on eve-side will be possible ^ ^
Good luck to all signers! =) |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.01.01 23:42:00 -
[218] - Quote
Kujo Minowara wrote:I'm really excited for the future release of DUST 514, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so signing for beta would only mean to steal some other the possibility to play =)
CCP, please let us know when the possibility to interact with beta testers on eve-side will be possible ^ ^
Good luck to all signers! =)
Yeah, put some EVE-side part of Dust on sisi along with the Dust trials |
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries Pandorum Invictus
182
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:36:00 -
[219] - Quote
You think the minmatar equipment and vehicles will be overpowered in dust as well?
lol |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:53:00 -
[220] - Quote
Joshua Aivoras wrote:You think the minmatar equipment and vehicles will be overpowered in dust as well?
lol
I'm guessing that OP items/vehicles in Dust 514 will have far less of an effect on gameplay than they do here in EVE; mostly due to differences in the style of gameplay. An FPS isn't limited by the power of the items in the same fashion as a game like EVE, though they will and do make a difference in some respects.
Being able to take cover move or stand still, dodge, roll, crouch behind vehicles and objects, or whatever gives you a distinctive edge over weapons that may or may not be able to hit you, and you can always hide behind the other guy to. I'm sure he'll only appreciate that if he's a juggernaut though.
Anyway, it remains to be seen, but you also have to consider that someone has to physically aim at you in an FPS, and he can't shoot through everything to get you, unlike EVE. Unless he's using Hacks; but thats another thing, and one reason I'm glad it's not on PC. I'd give less than two weeks before a PC game would be overun by them and be totally unplayable.
It's not like a game like Dust will have the option of Admins, so blocking and banning Hackers is near to impossible aside from a reporting system. Even that's severely flawed considering it will just result in mostly temp bans with little or no proof the player was actually hacking. Mostly it'll result in griefing honest players.
Not intentionally perhaps, but FPS are rife with players who call foul.
Also, the very nature of weapons in the EVE universe indicates that Minmatar will be OP. You can't have a system with multiple resists and only one weapon group that covers them all without that happening.
A good example is the predictability of Hybrid ammo, which will be used by the Caldari and Gallente by all appearances, and has only two types. Amarr of course has only marginally more variations while being only slightly less predictable. It's not even the predictability that matters in this case, but rather the limitations of those weapon types as a result.
Hybrid cannot DPS EM or Explosive, and Lasers cannot DPS Explosive or Kinetic. So most armor tanks with Explosive holes are lacking a handicap against both those munitions types.
Thermal is predictably common to both, and well covered with base stats in armor and even shields, EM is not particularly useful against armor, but packs a punch on most shields, and Kinetic is marginally useful against both.
That makes Minmatar, with a complete spread of DPS types, the best all round munition, while it also packs a serious punch in DPS.
Honestly I see the limitations of Lasers, but I never figured out why Hybrid munitions were incapable of having a more even spread in the damage types. There's more than one way to mix plasma I'm thinking. |
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Caldain Morrow
The Reavers Externus Hostis
6
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Posted - 2012.01.03 02:16:00 -
[221] - Quote
for good or ill; signed. Hope, they don't require a PS+ membership. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 08:56:00 -
[222] - Quote
Any news when invites go out? |
Calumbacha
guided by voices Shadow of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:10:00 -
[223] - Quote
Another screw up by CCP, i dont see a PS3 on the market in Jita. Why not?
How do i play this dust game in the EVE universe if i cant buy a ps3 in Jita?
I thought eve was a single server universe not like other crap games. |
Lord Wamphyri
Starside Lost
106
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:32:00 -
[224] - Quote
Still watching my Inbox for my beta key.. I hope my invite hasn't got lost in the intertubez.. |
Jack Oam
Brothers In Arms. Ultima Rati0
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:40:00 -
[225] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
+1 |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
123
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:40:00 -
[226] - Quote
Good move on saying no to beta key scams. It could have gotten really ugly if you had let that go unchecked. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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NextDarkKnight
Fury Lords Chained Reactions
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:46:00 -
[227] - Quote
Sorry, All Xboxes here and kick ass gaming PCs.. Will pass until it is on a console I own. |
William Riaker
Interstellar Ministeries United Homeworlds
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 11:51:00 -
[228] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
True. Hope that it not the last word. |
tb1rd
BFC-BlacKHanD
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 12:00:00 -
[229] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
/signed |
Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
104
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Posted - 2012.01.03 12:22:00 -
[230] - Quote
Hm... I prefer to play FPSs on my computer... Oh well, the beta will give me a chance to see if it's worth it when the full version comes out. |
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TheSysX
Yakiya Tovil-Toba Revange
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 12:33:00 -
[231] - Quote
To bad that DUST isn't available as PC-Game |
Ivo D
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers The G0dfathers
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 12:52:00 -
[232] - Quote
make it a PC game, or at least cross-console... limitting it to PS3 is compromising the point of EVE imho |
Mr Jaffar
MexCorp
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 12:56:00 -
[233] - Quote
The only reason I still have a PS3 was to gather Dust... Sorry that's terrible.
I must say I bet CCP were sick after Sony was hacked, then having to announce Dust was coming out on their flagship.
Lets see what it plays like, I might even spend more than 2 minutes wrestling the console controls!
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Fiedelity Miner
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 13:27:00 -
[234] - Quote
############### JUST RELEASED ###############
Australians get dust at half price. |
Camios
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2012.01.03 13:58:00 -
[235] - Quote
I am pretty curious to know how is it going.. how many EVE players signed for the beta.
Quote:For now, registration is available exclusively to active subscribers of EVE Online
Is this a move to make those who are both PS3 owners and DUST enthusiasts subscribe to EvE? |
Herr Otto Flick
Capstone Acquisitions Black Hawk.
2
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:10:00 -
[236] - Quote
PS3 + HD Screen + Homecinema set ready to get abused. |
Golan Snyder
Zen Tech Imperial Directorate
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:26:00 -
[237] - Quote
Just signed up, hope I get an invite.
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Akatenshi Xi
Elite Shadow Society ESS Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:27:00 -
[238] - Quote
PC or GTFO.
Sorry but to only release DUST to PS3 players is really a crappy idea. What about the thousands of loyal subscribers and players of EVE online who 1.) Don't have a PS3 2.) Have an Xbox or only a PC 3.) Were actually interested in playing DUST but now feel disenfranchised because the latest and greatest in the EVE Universe is not accessible to them without buying a PS3?
CCP, you're just full of epic fail these days. |
Peyman Torabi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:29:00 -
[239] - Quote
Yldrad wrote:Quote:DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials are only available in NA and EU English speaking territories It's stupid.
Wait what. So me being in Europe, Sweden. I can not participate?! I write and speak near perfect English yet I can not participate because the nation I live in does not?
And there is a very good reason for why Dust won't come to the Xbox. The reason is Xbox Live. CCP can't use that in order to merge the game with TQ and obviously Microsoft do not approve of online systems that operate outside of their reach on the Xbox.
Edit:
There is nothing on the sign up page stating that if you are in the EU, you have to be in an English speaking country? |
Cid SilverWing
Grim Determination Clockworks Inc. Nulli Tertius
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:42:00 -
[240] - Quote
EU territories? Well that pretty much excludes Norway since we're not in the actual Union.
Seriously, CCP, you wanna sabotage EVE by making us depend on Halo/Call of Duty/Battlefield console kiddies for planet-side stuff?
inbe4 butthurt brats quote-mining me with ad hominem attacks. |
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
29
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:43:00 -
[241] - Quote
Peyman Torabi wrote:There is nothing on the sign up page stating that if you are in the EU, you have to be in an English speaking country?
There was in the initial version of the page, it got changed. So yes you can participate.
Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Kale Pershaw
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 14:48:00 -
[242] - Quote
I find it really insulting for you to make it for PS3 only. The least you could have done is offer it to PS3 and the PC. I have played FPS on the PS3, Xbox360, and PC and I really prefer them on the PC, but that's just me. To really rake in the cash you could have made it truly cross platform and at least show some love for those that don't own a PS3. But I guess some one in your company is still wearing those $1000 dollar jeans, wears a monocle, and thinks everyone owns a PS3, an Xbox 360, and a PC.
How much are the kickbacks that Sony is giving you, CCP? You must be getting something. I hope it is enough to cover the further costs involved with production of Dust 514. You have already stated you're using profits from EVE to produce both your new endeavors. You really don't need another scandal like the last one. I believe you were already shown the power of the player with the last big F-up you guys pulled.
Hopefully we will hear your head being pulled from your ass as you realize what an idiotic move it is to make it for just one platform. |
Russell4
Moonshine Industries Blue Moon Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 15:06:00 -
[243] - Quote
Signed up... PS3 ready and no I don't have a PlayStation Plus account... I hope that doesn't effect chances of getting that email to join the beta CCP?
I've only had PS+ during that time where everyone got a month free due to that hacking issue and I wouldnt pay monthly for that service... would rather pay for another EVE account.
/Russs |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 15:07:00 -
[244] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. +1 |
DrLuke
Paragon. Elite Space Guild
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 15:13:00 -
[245] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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king curt
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 15:19:00 -
[246] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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DEFIER ORILIS
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 15:28:00 -
[247] - Quote
PS3s ready for launch! I have cleared HD space and blowm away the old Dust. |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:06:00 -
[248] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I hope that Dust will have a short lifetime. So that we can go on with the real EvE. PS3-only? I would play Dust, if I could use my PC.
I am to old for a concole. Therefore: play your game alone. Hope it will die sooner than SoonGäó.
Its just my own opinion. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
709
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:20:00 -
[249] - Quote
Anyone received their beta codes yet??
Also, any word from the developers on whether you need a PSN account or a playstation plus account checked when signing up to be the first one to receive an invite?
I got my PS3 for christmas, AFTER I signed up for the beta, and didnt have the box checked when signing up for a beta. I'd hate for that to lower my chance of receiving a code...
I'm sure others have the same question. Any thoughts, CCP staff?? |
Swirler
DELAINEN SYNDICATE
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:24:00 -
[250] - Quote
There are more PC's in the world than Playstations - you picked the wrong platform Maybe those gaming consoles are better at games with multiple servers; oh wait, you're not putting dust on multiple servers, are you? Guess all 50,000 active players of eve-online can go screw says CCP. No Thank You. Just be sure to put the disclaimer on Dust to it's player base: " Warning, better eve-online players will be happily dropping bombs on you, resulting in your untimely death and loss if assets."
Regards, |
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safrrr
Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:31:00 -
[251] - Quote
the reason for dust 514 not coming to the pc is becouse too many eve players would play this game, or atleast for a few weeks, instead of eve, giving an unbalanced gameplay for a few weeks. alot of ground troops and only 1 or 2 capitals available for planet bombardment aint really good :p |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
709
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:40:00 -
[252] - Quote
Swirler wrote: No Thank You. Just be sure to put the disclaimer on Dust to it's player base: " Warning, better eve-online players will be happily dropping bombs on you, resulting in your untimely death and loss if assets." Regards,
I think all of you who think that the Dust-Eve connection will mean Eve players having free reign to nuke all the dustbunnies from orbit using dreads are sadly mistaken. CCP's not going to sell a game where you'll be gankable right from the beginning by the invisible hands of gods.
Besides, there are planetside guns that can pop your dreads, too.
Bottom line is - Dust is coming, its an expansion of EvE as well, yes you'll need a PS3 to play it, or you'll need to learn to respect and get along with console gamers. You'll need em in your corps if you want to hold sovereignty.
Adapt or die, pod people. The Dust-bunnies are coming.
On second thought - maybe I should just let everyone think that Eve players > dust players in every way.....I'd love to see all of you park your dreads alongside planets come Dust launch day hoping for a random gank. I'd love to farm some dread killmails!
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VC General
No Baals Inc
36
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Posted - 2012.01.03 16:47:00 -
[253] - Quote
I'd love to try it, but alas, I'll not be buying a PS3 just to do so. I already only play one game on my 360, which collects dust(no pun intended) for 98% of my gaming time. I'll pass on coughing up another $400 up front to play one game.
Quote:you'll need to learn to respect and get along with console gamers.
I LOL'd |
safrrr
Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:04:00 -
[254] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
On second thought - maybe I should just let everyone think that Eve players > dust players in every way.....I'd love to see all of you park your dreads alongside planets come Dust launch day hoping for a random gank. I'd love to farm some dread killmails!
lol, you are right about that. just like modern warfare 3, you must earn arial support by either capturing special points on the map, or by exellent performance. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:21:00 -
[255] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
This. |
Captain Archer 4th
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:22:00 -
[256] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
no MAC - no Play.
that's IT!
But my PS3 has also collected dust, like 514 of them
Let's ruine som PIz |
Peyman Torabi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:26:00 -
[257] - Quote
Cid SilverWing wrote:EU territories? Well that pretty much excludes Norway since we're not in the actual Union.
Seriously, CCP, you wanna sabotage EVE by making us depend on Halo/Call of Duty/Battlefield console kiddies for planet-side stuff?
inbe4 butthurt brats quote-mining me with ad hominem attacks.
Give the whole "console kiddies" argument a rest.
Just because there are more children on consoles doesn't mean that every user is an 11 year old. Besides, 90% of the PSN community does not own a microphone for their PS3 so you will never know their age.
So next time, try and come up with a genuine argument instead. |
ACESsiggy
VC Academy
18
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:33:00 -
[258] - Quote
Sorry, don't want my computer to crash nor do I want my cpu to reach 99% playing.
However I did participate in Modern Warfare 3 and BF3 beta which went well. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
709
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:43:00 -
[259] - Quote
You laugh now, as will many others, but really in the end this whole experiment will sink or swim depending on whether the EvE community can get over its smug sense of superiority and the idea that PC gamers are somehow higher nerd-life-forms than console gamers.
The two games will be reliant on each other - if the EvE community shuns the Dust community, EvE will become broken as well.
I have faith though that most EvE players are pretty level-headed and will embrace this for its added depth and new, emergent gameplay, as well as the opportunity to get more players into EvE who may have a taste from picking up Dust..
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Kayron Garr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:57:00 -
[260] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
After the fight is before the fight. Your next opponent is waiting for your weakest moment. Be on your guard!
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killroy Atram
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:01:00 -
[261] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Zeigfryd Omegas
Seraphim Initiative
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:18:00 -
[262] - Quote
I, for one, bought into it and got a subscription for a chance to get into the beta, but also to contribute to the Eve side of my corp.
Also, those of you looking down on console gamers are pathetic. You're unable to grasp and accept the changing mediums of video games and how to be profitable within the gaming industry today. Don't want to play on a console? That's fine. Start giving people crap for playing on a console? You've gone full rtard, my friend. |
Jackie Smart
Tech Development Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:46:00 -
[263] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Kris Raidan
Zero Atmosphere WALLTREIPERS ALLIANCE
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:57:00 -
[264] - Quote
Umm CCP you have a epic weapon in your hands call Eve and Carbon, use it well. I know what in the consoles the hackers have no choose but i dont know, make a stadistics what who have ps and who not.
Very sorry for my english. |
Hibernator X
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:03:00 -
[265] - Quote
CCP let's see some planetside warp scramblers and maybe you will squeeze the Old Man Diva out of your playerbase on this one. |
nails
Ota Corps
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:03:00 -
[266] - Quote
FPS on console is completely idiotic and illogical.... Unless you allow keyboard and mouse interface. |
Xuse Senna
Crytec Enterprises SRS.
155
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:06:00 -
[267] - Quote
If I get into Beta, I'll go buy a PS3 :P D3 |
Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
104
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:24:00 -
[268] - Quote
I've played a few FPSs on consoles, and they're actually both fun and challenging at the same time. I just still prefer them on PC, because the PC's turning depends on how fast you move the mouse, while consoles have fixed aim-speed.
I actually sincerely hope I get that free beta key. It's been a while since I last played an FPS on my PS3, so it'd be a fun challenge as well. |
Omega Tron
Amarr Mining Inc Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
6
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:25:00 -
[269] - Quote
Signed up but most likely will not be selected for this beta trail.
Here my thoughts on the SONY PS3 and their network services offering. I bought my PS3 mostly for the blue ray player and as a replacement for my 3rd XBOX 360 that had developed the red ring of death -- again.
So last night I went and finally did some exploring on the SONY PS3 Networking. It seems there are two parts to it. The free to connect and access to upgrades to the OS and to the SONY store and of course lots of adveristments. Then there is the $50.00 pay to use network that has all the free trials and bonus game add-ons. So my opinion is that in order to get and test this CCP - Dust 514 beta you'll have to fork over the cost of the premium membership, which I for one will not be doing. Also, I found that there are listings for multiple levels of Aurum that can be purchased for use in the trial. So I think this will be going down the path of being a pay to win gaming plan. This again is not going to have my support either on the PS3 or in the EVE gaming. |
Charles Edisson
Isk Incorporated
23
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:59:00 -
[270] - Quote
killroy Atram wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
I presume this has to be due to money from Sony as it's a lot easier to make a PC game communicate with an X-Box than a PS3. Just look at Skyrim wasn't it the PS3 plaform that had the most issues. I hope CCP chasing the easy quick buck doesn't bite them in the ass in the long run |
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
263
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:07:00 -
[271] - Quote
Charles Edisson wrote:killroy Atram wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I presume this has to be due to money from Sony as it's a lot easier to make a PC game communicate with an X-Box than a PS3. Just look at Skyrim wasn't it the PS3 plaform that had the most issues. I hope CCP chasing the easy quick buck doesn't bite them in the ass in the long run Its only easier to run xbox-pc communication if both server run on the MS live stuff, as this is a closed network.
tranquility doesnt run on live |
Fortuna Cournot
Operation Blackout
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:09:00 -
[272] - Quote
Getting a Playstation ? - Piece of cake !
I bought my PS3 mostly for the blue ray player, too. |
Mumemafu Praetoriam
Imperium .H.E.M.P. Chained Reactions
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:11:00 -
[273] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
thanks 4 it, now I just need get a crap PS3, epic fail again CCP!
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Charles Edisson
Isk Incorporated
23
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:12:00 -
[274] - Quote
nails wrote:FPS on console is completely idiotic and illogical.... Unless you allow keyboard and mouse interface.
I know the PS3 and 360 both can accept mouse/keyboard combos. 360 will use any old USB devices (it is a mini PC after all)for the PS3 you need to either buy the SONY proprietry mouse/keyboard combo or an adapter.
So you can use a mouse you just need to pay for it, big supprise there. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
836
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:15:00 -
[275] - Quote
Jackie Smart wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Have PS3 - will play.
that is all. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Rygaria Belsarnian
Coffee Hub
2
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:21:00 -
[276] - Quote
hi guys dont flame me :) just want to get some facts straight..
Has CCP confirmed that theyve done a deal with Sony? (if so maybe already too late) but if so, how exclusive does Exclusive for ps3 mean... maybe theres some clause that says minimum 6months or something before they can open it wider. (i dont think they would have done a deal if it mean 100% preventing any other future platform expansion - if they did that, its bad :) but i dont know for sure.
Do we know why a deal was done with Sony? is it that a pc cant handle the gfx? (probably not) is it that a multplayer server needed to handle all the dust data was too big for ccp right now? (maybe)? is if that xbox network is too locked down to be used effectively with eve private servers (from what i read so far about 7 pages it seems so).
Can ccp finance dust on its own servers and on a pc fanbase (i like to think so) but maybe theyve done what can be done currently (to give the game some momentum while focus takes plase on main eve, until they can expand it for other platforms (but again i dont know full facts from above)
CCp if you can read this, please check what can you legaly divulge and then divulge something more for us please :)
thnks |
Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:28:00 -
[277] - Quote
Is having the Playstation Plus subscription a must for this? I noticed they are asking if you have one in the beta survey/signup. |
Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:29:00 -
[278] - Quote
Rygaria Belsarnian wrote:hi guys dont flame me :) just want to get some facts straight..
Has CCP confirmed that theyve done a deal with Sony? (if so maybe already too late) but if so, how exclusive does Exclusive for ps3 mean... maybe theres some clause that says minimum 6months or something before they can open it wider. (i dont think they would have done a deal if it mean 100% preventing any other future platform expansion - if they did that, its bad :) but i dont know for sure.
Do we know why a deal was done with Sony? is it that a pc cant handle the gfx? (probably not) is it that a multplayer server needed to handle all the dust data was too big for ccp right now? (maybe)? is if that xbox network is too locked down to be used effectively with eve private servers (from what i read so far about 7 pages it seems so).
Can ccp finance dust on its own servers and on a pc fanbase (i like to think so) but maybe theyve done what can be done currently (to give the game some momentum while focus takes plase on main eve, until they can expand it for other platforms (but again i dont know full facts from above)
CCp if you can read this, please check what can you legaly divulge and then divulge something more for us please :)
thnks
CCP announced like over a year ago I think that it is exclusive for PS3. That is the only console/platform it is being released on. There may be some advantage for them only doing a deal with Sony, IP exclusiveness or something and or maybe Sony is helping them out in some way that is very good compared to what others may have offered (Microsoft for instance maybe was a tougher sell since they charge for access to their networks, idk), who knows. I do know one thing, unless they have a reason for telling the whole world their inside business, they are not going to tell any of us anything. |
Vel Jong
CMABR
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:29:00 -
[279] - Quote
CCP are you ******* kidding
I never played on consoles and i never will play on them..... and im sure many of EVE players are thinking like me.
If this is a try to get new console players on eve or whatever its a bad try.
im disappointed
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crazi wolf
Society Of New Eden Studies Violent Society
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:32:00 -
[280] - Quote
I've been in EPIC HEAVY anticipation of DUST, and Don't care what anyone says... I'm Down for some merc'ns!!! Just really hopin CCP didn't go PS+ with it... I pay for EvE and I own a PS3, but really don't wanna pay for PS+ on top just to play the Beta... |
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Altez Rawina
Lupi di Wotan
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:37:00 -
[281] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Taawuz
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Tertius
4
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:41:00 -
[282] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
263
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:44:00 -
[283] - Quote
more like No PS3 - No play B) |
Slimy Beaver
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:48:00 -
[284] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
no pc no play no sh**t ccp what a slap in the face and of course my wife has to own a 360
this pretty much answers the question what will finally kill eve if you haven't figured it out yet its dust
when dust dose not have the player base they want they will make it affect eve more and more directly forcing us to play and killing this long running mmo nice work CCP and good luck sweeping dust under the rug when it bombs |
Kasidis
Noble Company
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:51:00 -
[285] - Quote
Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
I love how all you people saying that think anyone cares
It is going to be a PS3 exclusive and it is going to stay that way. There are hundreds of reasons why that I won't regurgitate as many people have already outlined them. I know all of you think it is going to fail just because the EvE community doesn't like, but news flash, the EvE community isn't the entire world. If you check somewhere else besides the EvE-O forums, there many critics and players alike praising Dust already. I'm not saying it is the next Call of Duty (although you never know) but it will do absolutely fine. The FPS player attention span argument is idiotic, you can't categorize 70 million people
My main point is HTFU, stop whining, and deal with it.... |
Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:58:00 -
[286] - Quote
Avensys wrote:Keatro wrote:It is literally impossible to have both pc and ps3 playing against eachother in a fps while still being fair. Supposedly this is due to the keyboard/mouse combo being more accurate, faster, ... than console controllers? So what about pitting PS3 users with keyboard/mouse against PS3 users with weird controllers vs PS3 users with vanilla controllers? cause that doesn't seem to be a problem for CCP Quote:WILL CCP BE MAKING SURE THE SHARPSHOOTER/MOVE WILL BE FULLY COMPETITIVE WITH DS3 USERS?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on. http://dust514.org/home/item/everything-we-wanted-to-know-about-dust-514-and-weren-t-afraid-to-ask?category_id=1The PC-only decision is probably due to benefits from the partnership with Sony and due to CCP not wanting to cannibalize the EVE userbase for DUST. But the "No DUST on PC because PS3 users can't compete with PC users" argument took a wrecking hit for over 9000 damage by CCP strongly suggesting that keyboard/mouse will be supported on PS3 DUST. It's really time for this argument to die.
I didn't even know that keyboard mouse option was possible for PS3. This is cool, I just got one for X-mas, so I am psyched since the idea of trying to relearn FPS game for PS3 was a daunting one, since I have played all FPS games on PC for years now and prefer it that way.
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Harriet Hargot
Serenity Logistics
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:00:00 -
[287] - Quote
From all Australians.
Thanks a bunch.
We do love being ignored.
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Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:02:00 -
[288] - Quote
Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I'm not saying it is the next Call of Duty (although you never know).
That would be unfortunate if it was like any of the CoD games. I'm hoping it is more like a serious tactical simulator, so we can have less kill rampage retards with knives running around stabbing everyone in the neck for dog tags and actual tactical realism (well as real as a sci fi FPS can get, but the none munchkin FPS gamers know what I mean). I'm thinking clan based BF 3 or Arma II, AAO style game setup vs. COD.
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Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:05:00 -
[289] - Quote
Omega Tron wrote:Signed up but most likely will not be selected for this beta trail.
Here my thoughts on the SONY PS3 and their network services offering. I bought my PS3 mostly for the blue ray player and as a replacement for my 3rd XBOX 360 that had developed the red ring of death -- again.
So last night I went and finally did some exploring on the SONY PS3 Networking. It seems there are two parts to it. The free to connect and access to upgrades to the OS and to the SONY store and of course lots of adveristments. Then there is the $50.00 pay to use network that has all the free trials and bonus game add-ons. So my opinion is that in order to get and test this CCP - Dust 514 beta you'll have to fork over the cost of the premium membership, which I for one will not be doing. Also, I found that there are listings for multiple levels of Aurum that can be purchased for use in the trial. So I think this will be going down the path of being a pay to win gaming plan. This again is not going to have my support either on the PS3 or in the EVE gaming.
I'm pretty sure you will have to buy most if not all your gear in Dust, that has already been discussed by the Devs in the past, so that is not really pay to win IMO.
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Kasidis
Noble Company
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:08:00 -
[290] - Quote
Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke?
It is people like you who make me doubt humanity....... |
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Kasidis
Noble Company
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:11:00 -
[291] - Quote
Magdalena Ionesco wrote:Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I'm not saying it is the next Call of Duty (although you never know). That would be unfortunate if it was like any of the CoD games. I'm hoping it is more like a serious tactical simulator, so we can have less kill rampage retards with knives running around stabbing everyone in the neck for dog tags and actual tactical realism (well as real as a sci fi FPS can get, but the none munchkin FPS gamers know what I mean). I'm thinking clan based BF 3 or Arma II, AAO style game setup vs. COD.
Maybe I should have clarified that. I meant the same popularity as CoD, not gameplay. It is a horrible game |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2545
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:35:00 -
[292] - Quote
Harriet Hargot wrote:From all Australians.
Thanks a bunch.
We do love being ignored.
Did someone say something? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2545
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:37:00 -
[293] - Quote
Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I love how all you people saying that think anyone cares It is going to be a PS3 exclusive and it is going to stay that way...
For a year, anyway. After that I wouldn't be surprised to see a PC port released (not like it would be hard to port it to the PC)
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Roga Dracor
Mental Disorders Inc. Chained Reactions
81
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:43:00 -
[294] - Quote
Count me in as a paying Eve customer who bought a PS3 JUST for Dust 514! Hope to see ya all on the fields of mayhem... |
Kasidis
Noble Company
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:47:00 -
[295] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I love how all you people saying that think anyone cares It is going to be a PS3 exclusive and it is going to stay that way... For a year, anyway. After that I wouldn't be surprised to see a PC port released (not like it would be hard to port it to the PC)
Dream on... CCP takes forever to do anything. If we even do see a PC port (I highly doubt it) it won't be out until AT LEAST 2014 (release of the PS4)...
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Xideinis
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:59:00 -
[296] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:As we move closer to a full release of Dust 514, CCP CmdrWang and the Dust team would like to invite you to register for the opportunity to take part in the Mordu's Private Trials. Click on this link to read the full blog for details on how to register. Update on Tuesday, January 3:Scams involving DUST514 beta keys are not allowed. Much like EVE Online accounts, the DUST514 beta keys are non transferrable and selling them, or offering to sell them is thus prohibited.
With this recent update, does that Beta keys have been released? If so, that's a real bummer. I didnt get one, even though i signed up. D: |
Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:08:00 -
[297] - Quote
Xideinis wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:As we move closer to a full release of Dust 514, CCP CmdrWang and the Dust team would like to invite you to register for the opportunity to take part in the Mordu's Private Trials. Click on this link to read the full blog for details on how to register. Update on Tuesday, January 3:Scams involving DUST514 beta keys are not allowed. Much like EVE Online accounts, the DUST514 beta keys are non transferrable and selling them, or offering to sell them is thus prohibited. With this recent update, does that Beta keys have been released? If so, that's a real bummer. I didnt get one, even though i signed up. D:
I would also like to know if they have been released, I have also signed up but not received anything... Yet.
Luckily my girlfriend won a PS3 in her work Christmas raffle, so yay for dust! If she hadnt of won it I wouldn't buy a console just for dust. |
Crazey Monkey
Galactic Synergy
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:12:00 -
[298] - Quote
Roga Dracor wrote: Count me in as a paying Eve customer who bought a PS3 JUST for Dust 514! Hope to see ya all on the fields of mayhem... :D |
Randem Salvo
Wrecking Shots White Noise.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:20:00 -
[299] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Rash Action
5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:21:00 -
[300] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2547
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:26:00 -
[301] - Quote
Kasidis wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I love how all you people saying that think anyone cares It is going to be a PS3 exclusive and it is going to stay that way... For a year, anyway. After that I wouldn't be surprised to see a PC port released (not like it would be hard to port it to the PC) Dream on... CCP takes forever to do anything. If we even do see a PC port (I highly doubt it) it won't be out until AT LEAST 2014 (release of the PS4)...
There's no great technical challenge in porting a game created with the UT3 engine to the PC. Sony have bought themselves a year of PS3 exclusivity, but there's nothing to stop CCP'd Dust team spending that year preparing a PC port, and every incentive for them to do so.
(Also, CCP aren't doing the Dust dev work. Their chinese merc contractors are.)
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Ledain Moruse
Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:01:00 -
[302] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Many already agreed, im doing the same. Even if i have a xbox360 myself, shooters = PC, that is all.
EDIT is saying: While console love boys and girls may say, who cares that we are saying this. They do care sooner or later, marketing would be doing a fail job if they do not watch the feedback on the console only decision closely.
Im going to take a educated guess and say, that 1/4th of the possible customers will not buy Dust514.
That is the ppl like me and many others stating, no pc no play.
To ignore that fact, would be a obvious marketing desaster for anyone with 5th grade math knowledge.
Good night, good fight! |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:10:00 -
[303] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:Update on Tuesday, January 3:[/b]
Scams involving DUST514 beta keys are not allowed. Much like EVE Online accounts, the DUST514 beta keys are non transferrable and selling them, or offering to sell them is thus prohibited. what the heck did you think was going to happen? did you think people were going to play nice with this? this is EvE Online!!! |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:16:00 -
[304] - Quote
Rash Action wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
That's right keep the crybabies off my battlefield! |
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:23:00 -
[305] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:hmm. there must be a way how to suicide gank dusties from space.
Driving motherships into large, stationary objects is not without precedent in the eve universe........
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Uthgood Furfoot
Plan-It Xpress
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:38:00 -
[306] - Quote
attention CCP.....
have 4 active accounts (6 computers to choose from in household to run EVE on) have 3 PS3's in the house to run Dust on.....
PICK ME!!!!
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
274
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:41:00 -
[307] - Quote
Harriet Hargot wrote:From all Australians.
Thanks a bunch.
We do love being ignored.
if you can,t ignore customers ,you don,t work at CCP We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |
Romeo Deluxe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:15:00 -
[308] - Quote
Roga Dracor wrote: Count me in as a paying Eve customer who bought a PS3 JUST for Dust 514! Hope to see ya all on the fields of mayhem...
Ahhh, the fields of mayhem.
Dust will be a gateway drug for the consoleers. |
Red Warclaw
XMark Initiative Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:18:00 -
[309] - Quote
I have two eve accounts where both are registered with the same e-mail address. Will I be allowed to have 2 accounts in DUST514 even if I only have one e-mail address? I applied for beta access under each account.
PS: I also bought a PS3 just for DUST514. I'm excited!
Thanks! |
Raze Zindonas
Asgard. Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:25:00 -
[310] - Quote
when are the keys being handed out or "drawn"? |
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Noroswen
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:50:00 -
[311] - Quote
No beta key no play... THAT is all.... |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:03:00 -
[312] - Quote
Noroswen wrote:No beta key no play... THAT is all....
+20 |
Nova Garsk
Deep Impact Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:09:00 -
[313] - Quote
Just recently got a PS3 (and 40" LED), hoping for a 1080p release. Signed up and good to go. |
Zylla
DSC inc RED Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:09:00 -
[314] - Quote
Wonder if they'll get the message when only 40 people sign up. I'm with everybody else, I'll play when it comes to a PC near me. |
Jethro Campbell
Correct Horse Battery Staple
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:18:00 -
[315] - Quote
Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:Nur AlHuda wrote:Why i would buy ps3 just for single game when i can nuke them from orbit :P
Planetary kills : 1-5 Shooting down full merc barge priceless... When can we buy skill books for Orbital Bombardment?
Exactly.
If I cannot participate without buying a $300 child's toy, I'm afraid I will have to nuke from orbit every last Dustie I can detect.
Period.
" Sorry about that factory of your's sport, but it was infested with dust mites." |
Jethro Campbell
Correct Horse Battery Staple
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:25:00 -
[316] - Quote
Kasidis wrote:
My main point is HTFU, stop whining, and deal with it....
Oh, I most certainly will.
I welcome the opportunity to bring nuclear grief down on the dust bunnies. I really want to help them HTFU.
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Vyncent Darlandra
Solaris Project Border World Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 02:52:00 -
[317] - Quote
I'm somewhat confused by everyone so upset at the beta being only open to English speakers. Doesn't it make it a lot easier for everyone involved to keep the standard method of communication in one language? With all due respect to every language out there, but would I wrong to assume that more EVE players know English than any other language? Just my two cents. I'm signed up and ready to go, never had much of an enthusiasm for my PS games, but this is gonna get me goin again.
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Zeigfryd Omegas
Seraphim Initiative
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:37:00 -
[318] - Quote
Quote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Sorry to burst your PC-centric bubble, but they aren't trying to cater to PC gamers for Dust 514 because they think it'd take players from Eve online. I don't understand why you are all being such dimwitted reactionary bigots, declaring that "Oh, this'll kill CCP," and the like. Oh wait, I exactly know why, you're elitist, long time Eve players that are scared that your precious game is changing and growing beyond your ability or willingness to access the new parts of the game. You know what you should do? Deal with it, because what CCP is trying to do is unprecedented, and while I will gripe and critique about technical mishaps that might or will happen with Dust 514, I stand by the Dust 514 project because of the vision they have.
"Oh no! Our PC only game universe is reaching out to different gamers." Do you know of the gameplay possibilities this will bring? The massive influx of new blood and ideas will only enrich the universe of Eve including the obviousness that ground combat creates an entirely new level of depth to the Eve experience. Before you start griping at CCP's attempt to break the mold of the relationship between games and gaming genres, do some research and figure out how much work they're doing and what they see the future of gaming to be, and maybe you won't lag behind and become an anachronism to the video gaming industry and see the immense opportunities Dust 514 yields. |
Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven
10
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:03:00 -
[319] - Quote
Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
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war't0g
The Rising Blade
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:37:00 -
[320] - Quote
Ive been around Eve for years and suffice it to say that trolls have long since killed the horse yet somehow manage to continue beating those dry bones about every groundbreaking development in the game... Seriously, you dont have to play Eve if you feel that negatively toward it. Go play WOW.. or Frogger...
I would totally have been up for beta testing this game if I had known about this thread sometime before today.
So you really dont like the idea of Dust 514 being available only on PS3 (for now)? Then GTFO of the thread and stop wasting bandwidth. Go cry to Microsoft for being a bunch of jerkweeds about the technology. CCP didnt have to give us the opportunity to get in on this game at all for BETA...
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ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:41:00 -
[321] - Quote
Zeigfryd Omegas wrote:Quote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Sorry to burst the PC-centric bubble, but CCP they thinks Dust 514 being on the PC would take players from Eve online. It's pretty scary to me, as a newcomer to this community, who is excited about Dust 514 to find that some think that "Oh, this'll kill CCP," and the like.Your game is changing and growing beyond the willingness some of you have to access these new areas of growth. You'll need to find a way to grapple with it because what CCP is trying to do is unprecedented, and while I will gripe and critique about technical mishaps that might or will happen with Dust 514, I stand by the Dust 514 project because of the vision they have. "Our PC only game universe is reaching out to different gamers." Do you know of the gameplay possibilities this will bring? The massive influx of new blood and ideas will only enrich the universe of Eve including the obviousness that ground combat creates an entirely new level of depth to the Eve experience. CCP is attempting to break the mold of the relationship between games and gaming genres, you should do some research and figure out how much work they're doing and what they see the future of gaming to be, and maybe you won't fall prey to becoming an anachronism to the video gaming industry and see the immense opportunities Dust 514 can yield. As the Deputy Director of Seraphim Initiative, I am apparently part of a minority that sees the potential of the immense contribution that both Eve and Dust players can bring to the Eve world. In an interview with Magvets, I stressed the need for modesty and humbleness for the experience that the Eve community has, as a community that stands apart from other gaming communities, but so far, I've been shown that I overestimated the maturity, opportunism, and tenacity of the Eve community, and if this is a representation of the welcome that FPS newcomers to New Eden will see when Dust 514 releases, and it will release, I see dark times ahead for us. As a gaming community, we need to rally together, call CCP out on bad calls, but embrace change, as that is the only way to prosper, for CCP financially, and therefore your core game, Eve Online, and the gaming industry as a whole.
-SIGNED- |
Aegis Stormborn
Trauma Ward Free Beer.
4
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:43:00 -
[322] - Quote
Ledain Moruse wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Many already agreed, im doing the same. Even if i have a xbox360 myself, shooters = PC, that is all.
Cool story bro, but there is plenty of actual data out there stating otherwise.
Let's take a look at Call of Duty Black Ops Sales by gaming platform. (COD Black Ops is the highest selling COD title to date and I believe COD is the most successful FPS gaming series but I didn't actually check that, I think we can all agree it's in the top 2 or 3).
PC Sales: 1.32 million PS3 Sales: 11.23 million XBOX Sales: 13.25 million
We can clearly see that console sales outpaced PC sales in our example by about 18.5 to 1. Even if you want to get technical and disregard your argument of console vs PC and just call it PS3 vs. PC you are still at an 8.5 to 1 sales rate.
Ledain Moruse wrote:EDIT is saying: While console love boys and girls may say, who cares that we are saying this. They do care sooner or later, marketing would be doing a fail job if they do not watch the feedback on the console only decision closely.
No we don't care, and CCP doesn't either because they have probably taken a look at some actual data as we just did and saw that consoles are the way to go regardless of whether you personally like them or not.
Ledain Moruse wrote:Im going to take a wild completely uneducated guess and say, that 1/4th of the possible customers will not buy Dust514.
Fixed it for you.
Ledain Moruse wrote:That is the ppl like me and many others stating, no pc no play.
Again, you can whine all you want. It's not going to change anything.
Ledain Moruse wrote:To ignore that fact, would be a obvious marketing desaster for anyone with 5th grade math knowledge.
Good night, good fight!
I'd be willing to bet you don't know the first thing about marketing seeing as you couldn't do some very simple market research that would show you that your premise is completely off base. Bonus points for misspelling disaster while trying to suggest that someone with a different viewpoint is lacking some basic knowledge from grade school.
One last thing before I GN and GF.
There are around 60,000 planets in the EVE universe. Even if you take out the ones that aren't theoretically able to have mercs on them you are left with over 40,000 planets. If I recall correctly the most people ever on Tranquility at once was around 60,000. So even on a good day, you only have about 1.5 people per planet. Pretty sure you can't fight yourself, as it would ruin the gaming experience. This thing has to be on PS3 (or XBOX but they wouldn't do it) in order to have a big enough player base to fill the planets and make it work.
TL:DR
If you do a little bit of research or use a little bit of deductive reasoning and common sense you can figure out that not only will putting DUST on the PS3 not kill the game, it is the only way it could work.
GN
GF |
Terra Mikael
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:44:00 -
[323] - Quote
Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
If eve was released as a console game it would have been shelved long ago. Surely you must uderstand that releasing on a console means it will be a short lived portion of the universe...but then again your visions have always been short term, CCP...
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:00:00 -
[324] - Quote
Terra Mikael wrote:Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
Why limit yourself to early adopters? PS3 has an established playerbase.
Terra Mikael wrote:If eve was released as a console game it would have been shelved long ago. Surely you must uderstand that releasing on a console means it will be a short lived portion of the universe...but then again your visions have always been short term, CCP... Considering how incredibly different the gameplay is between dust and eve, noting that one would probably have failed on a particular platform has no relevance whatsoever to the other. You may as well assert that fish are flawed because dogs can't survive underwater for long periods of time.
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mikey1877
House of the Occult
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:02:00 -
[325] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
needed to be said again |
Purpleshadez
Heimr BLACK-MARK
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:04:00 -
[326] - Quote
\o/ PS3 updated and fingers crossed..
hope all this waiting worth it. |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:16:00 -
[327] - Quote
anyone know if they started the beta yet? or at least know when they will start to release it |
Kasidis
Noble Company
5
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:24:00 -
[328] - Quote
Sylthi wrote:Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
I know I could be ignoring stupid posts like this, but I feel I must point out their idiocy...
As I said in my post on page 15, people are acting like CCP is only trying to target the EvE community with Dust. The EvE community isn't the world. Even if no EvE player buys Dust (which isn't going to happen) they will still get customers who DO NOT PLAY EVE. There are 55.5 million PS3s and even if 100,000 end up buying it, that will be a success. The FPS market is dominated by consoles (as pointed out by someone above me) so it is only logical to take advantage of that. Xbox is crap and refused Dust so PS3 was the only other option.
As for the comment about this thread not turning into a threadnaught, why is that relevant? There are other websites on the internet aside from the EvE-O foums
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Jasomon
Iynx Teledyne Armory The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:48:00 -
[329] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!!
No resources have been taken away from EVE. CCP cancelled their upcoming Vampire: masquerade MMO to put all their focus on EVE and DUST |
Galian Kile
Knights of Eden
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 06:28:00 -
[330] - Quote
Kasidis wrote:Sylthi wrote:Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
I know I could be ignoring stupid posts like this, but I feel I must point out their idiocy... As I said in my post on page 15, people are acting like CCP is only trying to target the EvE community with Dust. The EvE community isn't the world. Even if no EvE player buys Dust (which isn't going to happen) they will still get customers who DO NOT PLAY EVE. There are 55.5 million PS3s and even if 100,000 end up buying it, that will be a success. The FPS market is dominated by consoles (as pointed out by someone above me) so it is only logical to take advantage of that. Xbox is crap and refused Dust so PS3 was the only other option. As for the comment about this thread not turning into a threadnaught, why is that relevant? There are other websites on the internet aside from the EvE-O foums
I agree. I had this same discussion with a friend of mine when MW3 got released. 10% of their sales was PC. The other 90% WAS CONSOLES!!!!!!
So yes, this is a good move on CCP's part to expand their market horizons towards the console customer base. |
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Dnaltrop Nogero
AVE EVE
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:10:00 -
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PS3 ready to go, Application entered, But I am not a Playstation + Member.
Give me something to do while the Wife and kids are asleep and I have the house to myself..... Please. |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:47:00 -
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Hm.. I wonder if we ever gonna see DUST player complain about EVE being PC exclusive. Surely this is something for CCP to look into. I mean we cant expect people to buy a PC to play EVE.
Or if you don't want to own a PS3 its working as intended, don't play the game and stop whining about it!! |
zaqq
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 07:55:00 -
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if only i was 12 and owned a ps3 to I would try it. I am hoping ccp will realize that only us pc players will make dust 514 epic, the console gamers are to sold on cod to give a **** about anything else.
Please ccp - dust 514 belongs on the pc, its the only way its gonna work. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
276
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Posted - 2012.01.04 08:17:00 -
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Jasomon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!! No resources have been taken away from EVE. CCP cancelled their upcoming Vampire: masquerade MMO to put all their focus on EVE and DUST
Sorry about that ,just was irritated about some idiot Flying in Space only people in other Forum post ,now i know for sure how ridiculous those people sound
Although i am an only PC guy and wished it could come to PC, i wish you guys a fun game.
And most of all some in info ,when the betakeys are handed out,ccp silence is a common thing these days We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |
5NAK3 PLI55K3N
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 08:35:00 -
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Terra Mikael wrote:Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
If eve was released as a console game it would have been shelved long ago. Surely you must uderstand that releasing on a console means it will be a short lived portion of the universe...but then again your visions have always been short term, CCP...
We all know how bugfixing works by CCP. CCP would use the time until PS4 to bugfix the game to get a playable version on PS4 ;)
My PS3 also collecting dust for a long time. The worst expirience ever for me was to buy MW4 on PS3. Wow! I tryed really hard to understand the guys who play a shooter on a console but never get it. PS3 is nice for Jump'n run with the kid's or games like Grand Tourismo but the sales on consoles tells a other story ;) |
Xideinis
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.01.04 08:54:00 -
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What's the reason that DUST 514 will not be released on Xbox 360 or PC you ask? You fear that the audiences of PS3 players are mere children jacked up on too much ritalin and mountain dew to protect your precious planets?
Fear not my finely-feather-brained friend! I seem to recall hearing a statistic somewhere that PS3 players have a higher IQ on average than Xbox players. That's possibly because there's more people on Xbox, but I'm thinking it's cause PS3 brings in a more mature audience.
Obviously I cannot produce the statistics, but I can share personal experience. I've played both PS3 and Xbox and my online experience has varied significantly between the two. XBox Live is full of children and trailer trash who have jail bait girlfriends - coincidentally, this is not much different from World of Warcraft. They all feel they have to be a big bad solo but-kicking ******* to overcompensate for... something. ;)
PS3, on the other hand, is for the sophisticated gentleman who is willing to strategize. I say, we're better off.
As for PC, well... you saw the statistics above. There's not much to explain there. More people will buy a console FPS game than will buy a PC FPS game. And don't get me started on the whining!! Look at these forums, they're riddled with it! What a mess... Hate to bring your hopes down, but after looking at the evidence, I'd say PS3 is the perfect place for DUST 514.
Now, obviously, we can't route out all of the retards.... so here's a simple fix for you.
DON'T HIRE THEM!! Make exclusive contracts for elite organizations like Morsus Mihi or Ushra'Khan. I know for a fact that they've already started recruiting DUST players. And I know they're hard core enough that they won't accept the ritalin corps into their ranks.
Just a thought ;) |
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.01.04 09:07:00 -
[337] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Terra Mikael wrote:Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
Why limit yourself to early adopters? PS3 has an established playerbase.
PS2 used to be the more popular and played-at console well after introduction of PS3.
I am active eve subscriber and I have a ps3. I dont know if Ill still bother with this though. I think I have forgotten my PSN password :S |
Titus R
LEGION OF PROFESSOR CHAOS Darkmatter Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 09:20:00 -
[338] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Kirradog
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 09:35:00 -
[339] - Quote
Any chance Xbox 360 will get a run? |
Old Owl
Hostile. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 09:49:00 -
[340] - Quote
Tiger's Spirit wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. True story bro.
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Old Owl
Hostile. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 10:06:00 -
[341] - Quote
Zeigfryd Omegas wrote:Quote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Sorry to burst the PC-centric bubble, but CCP thinks Dust 514 being on the PC would take players from Eve online. It's pretty scary to me, as a newcomer to this community, who is excited about Dust 514 to find that some think that "Oh, this'll kill CCP," and the like.Your game is changing and growing beyond the willingness some of you have to access these new areas of growth. You'll need to find a way to grapple with it because what CCP is trying to do is unprecedented, and while I will gripe and critique about technical mishaps that might or will happen with Dust 514, I stand by the Dust 514 project because of the vision they have. "Our PC only game universe is reaching out to different gamers." Do you know of the gameplay possibilities this will bring? The massive influx of new blood and ideas will only enrich the universe of Eve including the obviousness that ground combat creates an entirely new level of depth to the Eve experience. CCP is attempting to break the mold of the relationship between games and gaming genres, you should do some research and figure out how much work they're doing and what they see the future of gaming to be, and maybe you won't fall prey to becoming an anachronism to the video gaming industry and see the immense opportunities Dust 514 can yield. As the Deputy Director of Seraphim Initiative, I am apparently part of a minority that sees the potential of the immense contribution that both Eve and Dust players can bring to the Eve world. In an interview with Magvets, I stressed the need for modesty and humbleness for the experience that the Eve community has, as a community that stands apart from other gaming communities, but so far, I've been shown that I overestimated the maturity, opportunism, and tenacity of the Eve community, and if this is a representation of the welcome that FPS newcomers to New Eden will see when Dust 514 releases, and it will release, I see dark times ahead for us. As a gaming community, we need to rally together, call CCP out on bad calls, but embrace change, as that is the only way to prosper, for CCP financially, and therefore your core game, Eve Online, and the gaming industry as a whole.
are you Eddie Lampert?
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Toshiro GreyHawk
137
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Posted - 2012.01.04 11:02:00 -
[342] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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BLACKHEART H'DAR
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:07:00 -
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I'm sure this has possibly been said previously but I'll say it again.
We have been betrayed by CCP.
Initial release of Dust 514 was to be exclusivley ported for the Xbox 360 and as an Xbox 360 owner I jumped with joy.
2 years later and what do we get, Dust 514 exclusively for Playstation 3
DAMN you CCP
what happened ?
Microsoft taking too big a slice of the revenue ? Sony taking a back seat and offering free server space ?
THIS dude will not be purchasing a PS3 just to play CCP's new money generating venture.
CCP has lost its way, it no longer takes pride in its creation, EVE, instead the money it earns them has corrupted the hierarchy and they in turn just want more money. Patch after patch is proof of this, we never had this problem before the Dominion days
Bitching done
Blackheart |
Jiol Xiopan
Wolfgang-Xiopan Industrial Investments
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:21:00 -
[344] - Quote
Why are so many people writing bitchy responses to this and spreading misinformation like chinese whispers?
English speaking territories obviously is a reference to there being no alternative language translations - not literal EU classification..
Also, the whole concept of it being a console game is to cross the dimensions of having a console game and a pc MMO blended - its not a sponsor decision or a 'CCP WANTS TO WRECK YOUR DAY' decision. It's never been done before and its a very curious and ambitious idea that could change the face of EVE if its as popular as anticipated. I for one will be giving it a bash whether I'm involved in the beta or not. I just hope that the depth that has been described in the blogs and articles gives it the staying power to outdo the likes of COD who became stale after a month or less.
The fact they chose PS3 and not XBOX makes me very happy because PS3 is the standard for console gaming and XBOX is and always will be a second-rate pet project. The only way XBOX can float its console is by tying up franchises and slashing its console price. It has an awkwardly shaped controller and half its XBOX unique lines are as bad as nintendo's legacy.
However, lets not stray from the point. XBOX vs PS3 is a quasi-religious topic - however - some of the guff you people write is embarrassing. Use some of that intelligence and don't add stupid to the dog pile!
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Peyman Torabi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:35:00 -
[345] - Quote
I think people need to calm down. Nothing is set in stone and it may or may not eventually make to the PC.
We know almost nothing about this game. Let CCP work their magic before you blurt out your disappointment.
And like I said before, it is quite obvious as to why the game isn't for the Xbox 360. Microsoft act as Gestapo when it comes to Xbox Live. CCP having their own online system for Dust 514 so that they can integrate it with EVE Online? Nope, not gonna happen. Not without us all being forced to use GFWL with EVE and having active Xbox Live Gold accounts in order to play. So everybody can stop hoping for an Xbox 360 release already. |
Jiol Xiopan
Wolfgang-Xiopan Industrial Investments
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:39:00 -
[346] - Quote
and I just been reading posts that suggest ps3 is a console owned by 12 year olds..
The original playstation was celebrated as a phenomenon for bringing 25-35+ into the computer games market on a large scale (i remember an article when I used to buy the magazines) and you will notice that a large portion of playstation titles are mature content as opposed to nintendo and sega (RIP) who were making (and in nintendos case) are still making, games targetted at a younger audience.
Just because the most vocal people on COD's voicechat are squeaky kids, don't assume that the rest of us are no-brainer kiddies.
So long as DUST brings the quality and depth of EVE, you can rest assured that it'll attract mature players who're likely to then try EVE. All this 'I won't buy a console for one game/PC to play EVE' is a crock of ****. As stated earlier, there are some 55 million ps3 owners out there already so it really doesn't matter if you buy a ps3 or not. |
Allant Doran
KA POW POW Inc
16
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:55:00 -
[347] - Quote
Meh, the more people that shout ''DUST PS3 BOOOO!!'' the more likely it is i'll get my beta slot as I would absolutely love one.
I remember being a little irritated at missing the Christmas gifts from CCP. Most people just shrugged me off with a ''Welcome to EVE, EVE is unfair like real life, lolol'' kinda attitude.
I guess i'll just have to adopt that for this. Don't like that DUST is on the PS3? Well, cry moar :) |
Tronjay the'3rd
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 13:02:00 -
[348] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
^ That |
Peyman Torabi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 13:29:00 -
[349] - Quote
Jiol Xiopan wrote:and I just been reading posts that suggest ps3 is a console owned by 12 year olds..
The original playstation was celebrated as a phenomenon for bringing 25-35+ into the computer games market on a large scale (i remember an article when I used to buy the magazines) and you will notice that a large portion of playstation titles are mature content as opposed to nintendo and sega (RIP) who were making (and in nintendos case) are still making, games targetted at a younger audience.
Just because the most vocal people on COD's voicechat are squeaky kids, don't assume that the rest of us are no-brainer kiddies.
So long as DUST brings the quality and depth of EVE, you can rest assured that it'll attract mature players who're likely to then try EVE. All this 'I won't buy a console for one game/PC to play EVE' is a crock of ****. As stated earlier, there are some 55 million ps3 owners out there already so it really doesn't matter if you buy a ps3 or not.
I have to agree with you.
And besides, Dust 514 may or may not become the best game of all time on the PS3. I still wouldn't buy a console just for a single game. There are plenty of other titles available for the PS3 that made me happy with my purchase.
I think it is good that CCP are expanding into the console market and reaching out to a new audience. It would of course be nice if the game eventually made it to the PC as well but still. |
Bumbel
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 13:30:00 -
[350] - Quote
can-¦t wait for it :) time to de-DUST the playstation |
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Bomber Bob
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 13:32:00 -
[351] - Quote
Seriously, I'm not going to buy a gaystation3 just to play this...
I still have my ps1 somewhere and it's like a brand new one.. Think I used the darn thing 2 or 3 times.. |
Pandahead
Fearless Bandits Sk33t Fl33t
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 14:05:00 -
[352] - Quote
I don't usually jump in with responses to threads like these, but there are times when I just cannot sit idly by and watch people make a fool of themselves.
This is one of those times.
I own an Xbox, not a PS3. I was overjoyed to hear that the PS3 was going to be the home of Dust514. Not for the expense; it'll put me that little bit further away from buying a new motorbike. But because, it must be said, the PS3 is a more capable console. Sure, it's got some power supply issues on the older versions, and some of the newer versions overheat a mite, but the X360 is just the same. Some are clunky some way, some another.
It happens. The PS3 has a lot more processing and graphics power under the hood, plus a more slick and appealing UI. I think the PS3 is a better console, I've just been waiting for a good enough reason to buy it.
To those of you who have been bitching that Dust was going to be Xbox exclusive: Please, lurk some more before posting. All it takes is a little research to find out that, apparently, the switch was a result of Microsoft denying CCP access to their network infrastructure to test the principles of Dust.
That, and the Microsoft and therefore Xbox infrastructure, console architecture, network capabilities and, let's be honest, publishing brainpower (is that an oxymoron? Who knows) was never created with the intention of handling 64+ player games. The PS3 and PSN were.
Then consider the engine the game's created in: UE3. Here's another interesting point for you all to consider. The UE3 came out years ago, literally, and still produces some beautiful games. How? Experience, skill, and some beautiful coding. The engine allows for incredible scalability - a core tenet of CCP's production process, I'd like to point out - that allows developers who use the engine to make beautiful games at relatively low computation cost. This is what will let CCP run 64player matches without melting PS3s left right and centre. The Xbox has neither the processing power, even with the scalability of UE3, to handle such large matches, nor the architecture to fully utilise the UE3.
The X360 has to use UE3 in DX9 mode, which is just clunky. The PS3 on the other hand can use UE3 in OGL, and while I admit that OGL has it's issues, just like DX, it suits the direction that CCP seem to be going with Dust a lot more.
Now, where there any more inane comments people would like to make? If anyone has anything useful to add, interject or contradict, please do. However, if you want to attempt to achieve truth by repetition on the grounds of "you're wrong" or "I heard that...", please don't waste my time and yours. You have no more facts than I do, I'm just better at drawing useful conclusions and intelligent conjecture than you are.
tl;dr: The PS3 has been chosen for Dust because it is better for Dust.
another tl;dr: I dislike people who appear to be deliberately stupid. |
Treks Shadow
AZOIK INDUSTRIES AZOIK EMPIRE
119
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Posted - 2012.01.04 14:11:00 -
[353] - Quote
ps3 is just waiting to get dusty pick me pick me pick me |
Sandrock124l8
Invention Junkies
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:15:00 -
[354] - Quote
Pandahead wrote:I don't usually jump in with responses to threads like these, but there are times when I just cannot sit idly by and watch people make a fool of themselves.
This is one of those times.
I own an Xbox, not a PS3. I was overjoyed to hear that the PS3 was going to be the home of Dust514. Not for the expense; it'll put me that little bit further away from buying a new motorbike. But because, it must be said, the PS3 is a more capable console. Sure, it's got some power supply issues on the older versions, and some of the newer versions overheat a mite, but the X360 is just the same. Some are clunky some way, some another.
It happens. The PS3 has a lot more processing and graphics power under the hood, plus a more slick and appealing UI. I think the PS3 is a better console, I've just been waiting for a good enough reason to buy it.
To those of you who have been bitching that Dust was going to be Xbox exclusive: Please, lurk some more before posting. All it takes is a little research to find out that, apparently, the switch was a result of Microsoft denying CCP access to their network infrastructure to test the principles of Dust.
That, and the Microsoft and therefore Xbox infrastructure, console architecture, network capabilities and, let's be honest, publishing brainpower (is that an oxymoron? Who knows) was never created with the intention of handling 64+ player games. The PS3 and PSN were.
Then consider the engine the game's created in: UE3. Here's another interesting point for you all to consider. The UE3 came out years ago, literally, and still produces some beautiful games. How? Experience, skill, and some beautiful coding. The engine allows for incredible scalability - a core tenet of CCP's production process, I'd like to point out - that allows developers who use the engine to make beautiful games at relatively low computation cost. This is what will let CCP run 64player matches without melting PS3s left right and centre. The Xbox has neither the processing power, even with the scalability of UE3, to handle such large matches, nor the architecture to fully utilise the UE3.
The X360 has to use UE3 in DX9 mode, which is just clunky. The PS3 on the other hand can use UE3 in OGL, and while I admit that OGL has it's issues, just like DX, it suits the direction that CCP seem to be going with Dust a lot more.
Now, where there any more inane comments people would like to make? If anyone has anything useful to add, interject or contradict, please do. However, if you want to attempt to achieve truth by repetition on the grounds of "you're wrong" or "I heard that...", please don't waste my time and yours. You have no more facts than I do, I'm just better at drawing useful conclusions and intelligent conjecture than you are.
tl;dr: The PS3 has been chosen for Dust because it is better for Dust.
another tl;dr: I dislike people who appear to be deliberately stupid.
As a recent game design graduate, I wanted to chime in on this. The 360 is a good console, but it's at it's limits right now. Halo Reach's multiplayer maxes the system out. Dust can not run on the 360. It's not that CCP doesn't want it on the 360, (they do because the online community for FPS's is much larger on the 360) the game just simply can't work on it.
One other major issue that Final Fantasy XI had when they went from PS2/PC to PS2/PC/360 was that Microsoft funnels your connection threw the Live servers before sending you to the severs for what ever game you are playing. For an MMO that was designed for a dial-up connection, this was fine, but the people on 360 still lagged a lot more than the others because of it.
And as a quick side note, Sony understands that these cross platform games outlast their consoles. If you go to the PSN store, there is a free download that updates your system so that it can have a game that needed to be instaled on the PS2 hard drive to instal on the PS3's. This may only be there for the backwards compatable PS3's, but it at least shows that they understand that something like Dust could be around into and possibly past the PS4, and if they follow what they have already done, you'll be able to play it on that.
Maybe when the next microsoft console comes out they can make a version of Dust for that, but right now the 360 can't take a game like this... That and if microsoft changes their practices with Live, which they most likely wont. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
711
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:28:00 -
[355] - Quote
BLACKHEART H'DAR wrote:2 years later and what do we get, Dust 514 exclusively for Playstation 3 DAMN you CCP what happened ? Microsoft taking too big a slice of the revenue ? Sony taking a back seat and offering free server space ? THIS dude will not be purchasing a PS3 just to play CCP's new money generating venture. CCP has lost its way, it no longer takes pride in its creation, EVE, instead the money it earns them has corrupted the hierarchy and they in turn just want more money. Patch after patch is proof of this, we never had this problem before the Dominion days
Not that it needs to be explained for the seven hundredth time, but what happened is that Microsoft wanted to hamstring CCP and block their project from reaching its true creative potential. This is not news, its been explained publically for a year now, I don't know what all the uproar is about all of a sudden.
Microsoft wouldn't allow CCP to use Tranquility to host Dust - they would have required it run on Xbox Live. Microsoft wouldn't allow CCP to give away expansions for free - they would have required all content be purchased IN ADDITION to everyone having to purchase their own in-game money.
Would you all have preferred Dust 514 be nerfed down to kiddie-levels and become another Halo clone, limiting its interaction with the EvE world and forcing everyone to spend twice as much to download and play it? Kudos to CCP for going with the platform that is appropriate for a unique game like Dust, not for sacrificing Dust 514's quality just to appease all those who are crying over the platform selection.
Many of us would much rather see a quality game release, and buy whatever platform it comes on, than see another poor clone shooter that runs on multiple consoles. We have far too many Calls of Duty already, thank you very much.
CCP takes a lot of pride about EvE - Dust 514 is essentially a WHOPPER of an EvE expansion in terms of gameplay depth and added content. Open your minds - Dust 514 will bring a whole host of new reasons to fight in spaceships on PC's over territory as well. It also gives a whole new community a chance to experience what EvE is all about in their own way.
There are a million gamers out there who play shooters on consoles - and not on the PC. Its a shame so many PC enthusiasts want to turn their noses up at those who play differently than they do and can't stand the idea of sharing their gem of a game experience with new players on new platforms.
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My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:44:00 -
[356] - Quote
You people whine and cry like babies every chance you get. I think most of you do it intentionally
Part of the purpose of Dust is to bridge the gap between consoles and PC. making Dust a PC game would void that strategy. I for one signed up and am very anxious to get a Beta Key.
I have a dual box setup, with my ps3 running one of my monitors. So I will be able to play Eve and Dust, without lagging out my Eve client.
Maybe it's a good thing its not on PC...
Get over it and find something else to cry about...geez. |
Isaar Kirom
Dakka Deliveries
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:52:00 -
[357] - Quote
I 100% understand why it's on the PS3 as opposed to the 360. More than that, I see perfectly good reasons why it can't be PC-Console cross platform. I also understand that CCP is trying to do something groundbreaking here and I wholeheartedly look forward to seeing it in action.
All that being said..."No PC, no play" as they say. It's not a judgement of the game, or the project, or CCP's decision making. It's just a simple statement that I will not be playing the game as long as it's PS3 exclusive (unless fate conspires to give me an adequate reason to buy one between now and launch.) As I said, I understand and admire that they're trying to break new ground here, but I think it's important for them to realize that they have a very specialized customer-base and a lot of them will not be following them on this trip.
I really really hope DUST works. I think we can all agree it will be off the charts epic if it gets off the ground as intended. I'm just worried that the PS3 doesn't have the customer base (something people never seem to mention when they're going on and on about it's technical superiority) to get something like this moving on the scale you'd need to really see any effect in EVE. I'm worried that in their attempt to be revolutionary, they may be hamstringing their own product. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
711
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:12:00 -
[358] - Quote
Isaar Kirom wrote: I'm just worried that the PS3 doesn't have the customer base (something people never seem to mention when they're going on and on about it's technical superiority) to get something like this moving on the scale you'd need to really see any effect in EVE. I'm worried that in their attempt to be revolutionary, they may be hamstringing their own product.
Most new shooters have to recoup their costs, just like a blockbuster movie - they need to know their audience, and sell a good volume of copies on release. If they don't, they lose money, "fail" and won't see a sequel or expansions. If Dust 514 were a standalone product - it would indeed have to worry about "the customer base" and projected subscriptions and all that.
However, being financed by EvE subscription income, Dust 514 is in a much safer position - it doesnt have to go toe-to-toe with Halo. CCP will be just fine whether dust sells a thousand copies or a hundred thousand copies.
I guarantee you Dust 514 will start slow. That's fine, we need it to start slow lest it disrupt our EvE world too much - there will be integrative and economic issues to resolve, I'd much rather work those out with a small console community first than a mad-dash Call of Duty release level of new players jumping into Tranquility via their PS3's.
But don't be fooled - once its off the ground, and working as intended, it WILL draw players. Word of mouth and positive media reviews will bring all the players Dust needs in the long run, and thankfully CCP can afford to wait long enough to see it all realized.
EvE took a while to build to the community it has today, Dust will too - its important to keep in mind that CCP isn't looking to harness an existing MMOFPS / RTS console player base - it is looking to create one from a void.
Ever seen Field of Dreams? "If you build it, they will come" is the philosophy here.
EDIT - and no, I'm not a CCP employee :) I know I sound a bit like marketing staff here, but I'm not. Just a fan trying to see the silver lining here, I truly believe this is a great thing for EvE and a time for everyone to be excited whether you have a PS3 or not. We can all use more reasons to fight with our spaceships - and the sovereignty mechanics HAVE to be overhauled for Dust 514 to work. This is a win even if you're not going to be rolling up a merc toon, as lowsec / nullsec Sov changes are long overdue and currently stagnating a lot of potential good fights in spaceship land. |
WisdomLikeSilence
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
82
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:38:00 -
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Theres no way you can pit PLaystation players against PC players in a First Person shooter and not have the vast majority of the PLaystation players quit in an afternoon.
They would be clubbed like baby seals, desperately trying to aim with their thumbs - while being mercilessly vaporised in a nanosecond by mouse and keyboard jockies with tiny ping rates and vastly superior gear.
I mean have you ever played an FPS with your thumbs? its ludicrous to think this could be done. Anyone whining about this is foolhardy !
Of course you could implement DUST as a PC only game, which is what will happen after the game dies in a year or 2 on console. |
Velani Askiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:43:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Sidi'Novis Tallon
The Dude's Interstellar Enterprizes Quixotic Hegemony
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:52:00 -
[361] - Quote
I don't understand why some people are so upset. From what I understand the game won't be limited to a controller, you'll have the option to use a mouse and keyboard as well as the Move or a controller. If you want to play it like a PC game go ahead and to be honest a game like Dust will be better on the PS3 than the PC, then at least everyone is on the same standard.
Having Dust on PC could be a fail flop in it's own right, just like it could on any console. If having a better rig meant being on top of the hill then essentially people can just buy their advantage. It's better this way.
Also a game like Dust on PC is far more likely to be hacked and modded then a PS3 counterpart. |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:35:00 -
[362] - Quote
actually sid'nova the likelihood of hacking is based on the stability of the game engine it is based on. In this case the unreal 3 engine.
Also the "pay to have an advantage" bit is a load of bull. nearly any modern computer of mid to high end can easily run UT3 and the unreal 3 engine. The only difference is for the lower end PCs there are these things called "graphics options" lol that is the beauty of the PC, the ability to change the level of detail in a game. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
713
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:55:00 -
[363] - Quote
WisdomLikeSilence wrote: I mean have you ever played an FPS with your thumbs? its ludicrous to think this could be done. Anyone whining about this is foolhardy !
It's kinda ludicrous that there are PC fanbois here who don't believe there are millions addicted to Halo and enjoying it just fine with their thumbsticks.
You're absolutely right though, it only works if EVERYONE's on thumbsticks. its arguably slower and less responsive, but still fun and balanced if you're used to thumbsticks and everyone's using them.
Your observation is exactly why we WONT see a PC version of Dust 514 - this is a console game. PC players would indeed smoke anyone trying to play with a Dualshock or Move controller, so its not going to happen. CCP doesnt need the revenue bad enough to try to push sales numbers fast and open up more platforms....I sincerely doubt we'll see a "PC fallback" cause they aren't selling PS3 copies fast enough.
I know its tough medicine to swallow, but there are just as many intelligent adults who enjoy playing video games on a couch with a controller as there are that prefer a task chair and a keyboard. This is a chance for CCP to share the love with the other half, and why not? This allows more people to enjoy one of the deepest gaming worlds out there. Platforms and input methods are simply personal choice - at the end of the day this just means that more gamers will have a chance to experience New Eden in their own way.
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Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 18:16:00 -
[364] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:WisdomLikeSilence wrote: I mean have you ever played an FPS with your thumbs? its ludicrous to think this could be done. Anyone whining about this is foolhardy !
It's kinda ludicrous that there are PC fanbois here who don't believe there are millions addicted to Halo and enjoying it just fine with their thumbsticks. You're absolutely right though, it only works if EVERYONE's on thumbsticks. its arguably slower and less responsive, but still fun and balanced if you're used to thumbsticks and everyone's using them. Your observation is exactly why we WONT see a PC version of Dust 514 - this is a console game. PC players would indeed smoke anyone trying to play with a Dualshock or Move controller, so its not going to happen. CCP doesnt need the revenue bad enough to try to push sales numbers fast and open up more platforms....I sincerely doubt we'll see a "PC fallback" cause they aren't selling PS3 copies fast enough. I know its tough medicine to swallow, but there are just as many intelligent adults who enjoy playing video games on a couch with a controller as there are that prefer a task chair and a keyboard. This is a chance for CCP to share the love with the other half, and why not? This allows more people to enjoy one of the deepest gaming worlds out there. Platforms and input methods are simply personal choice - at the end of the day this just means that more gamers will have a chance to experience New Eden in their own way.
CCP have hinted that DUST may well be keyboard and mouse compatible on the PS3. So instead of arguing like children why don't you all just sit down, suck it up and wait and see.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
714
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Posted - 2012.01.04 18:40:00 -
[365] - Quote
Balthazar Baraz wrote: CCP have hinted that DUST may well be keyboard and mouse compatible on the PS3. So instead of arguing like children why don't you all just sit down, suck it up and wait and see.
What??? Actually see how something turns out before we all pass judgement? Such rationality in online forums is unheard of.
+1
For the record, I personally could care less whether Dust is controlled by thumbstick, mouse, or Wii-mote. Games are games, i enjoy them regardless of platform or input method as long as they are fun.
Including KB / Mouse support would be a nice gesture at least to all the PC shooter fans dismayed by the console decision. I hope its included, unless it becomes overpowered. My guess is that if a PS3 mouse user is smoking all those that use dualshocks, they may just have everyone use dualshocks / Move guns. Perhaps this will be ironed out in the beta tests?
You're right though, panic and fury are all premature at this point. There's a ton we still just don't know about the game. |
Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:02:00 -
[366] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Balthazar Baraz wrote: CCP have hinted that DUST may well be keyboard and mouse compatible on the PS3. So instead of arguing like children why don't you all just sit down, suck it up and wait and see.
What??? Actually see how something turns out before we all pass judgement? Such rationality in online forums is unheard of. +1 For the record, I personally could care less whether Dust is controlled by thumbstick, mouse, or Wii-mote. Games are games, i enjoy them regardless of platform or input method as long as they are fun. Including KB / Mouse support would be a nice gesture at least to all the PC shooter fans dismayed by the console decision. I hope its included, unless it becomes overpowered. My guess is that if a PS3 mouse user is smoking all those that use dualshocks, they may just have everyone use dualshocks / Move guns. Perhaps this will be ironed out in the beta tests? You're right though, panic and fury are all premature at this point. There's a ton we still just don't know about the game.
I agree with pretty much all of what you've just said, albeit we are on opposite sides of the War - I salute you.
The only reason I'll be playing is because I got a PS3, for all intents and purposes, dropped in my lap. I certainly wouldn't have considering buying one solely for DUST. But I've got to say now I have one I am eager to see the release and have applied for Beta keys with all my accounts.
On a side note I've also registered for the Planetside 2 Beta. Which should also be awesome... I loved Planetside, until the expansions. Any I shall not derail further!
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Mercy Crow
Black Legion Projects
3
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:51:00 -
[367] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
As of June 2008, the number of personal computers in use worldwide hit one billion, while another billion is expected to be reached by 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
Worldwide sales figures 1.Wii GÇô 89.36 million as of 30 September 2011[9] 2.Xbox 360 GÇô 57.6 million as of 4 November 2011[38] 3.PlayStation 3 GÇô 56 million as of 2 November 2011[39]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Seventh_generation |
Spineker
92
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:23:00 -
[368] - Quote
NO PS3 nor any desire to buy one. Have 360 though |
el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
2
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:31:00 -
[369] - Quote
Hmm ... PS3 - 250+ USD DUST 514 - 50ish USD
No. |
Caldain Morrow
The Reavers Externus Hostis
6
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:38:00 -
[370] - Quote
Have any beta keys been given out yet? |
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Aegis Stormborn
Trauma Ward Free Beer.
8
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Posted - 2012.01.05 00:30:00 -
[371] - Quote
I feel like I just went over this a couple pages ago but since you seem to be extra slow we'll cover it again.
First, people use PCs for more than FPS games. I think this is where your logic (or lack thereof) steered you wrong. You need to be looking at FPS sales by platform.
http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php
Check there for video game sales. You will see that the highest performing FPS game on the list is Call of Duty Black Ops.
COD Black Ops Sales:
Xbox: 13.25 million PS3: 11.23 million PC: 1.32 million
Consoles outsold PC by about 18 to 1.
Next most successful FPS game would be COD Modern Warfare 2. Those sales figures are as follows:
Xbox: 12.67 million PS3: 9.77 million PC: 65 thousand
Consoles outsold PC by 34 to 1.
This type of sales gap repeats itself with any major FPS title. Anybody that tries to infer CCP is going after a smaller FPS audience by going with a console over PC couldn't be any more incorrect. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
198
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Posted - 2012.01.05 02:21:00 -
[372] - Quote
I'm kinda confused. I got an email saying that I was eligible to sign up for beta access. Then in the fine print I read that only players living in Europe and the US will be granted access. Which sucks as I am in Australia.
CCP what's the deal? Are aussies excluded from the beta?
If so, why bother sending out the emails in the first place, you already have the residential locations of players? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
1
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Posted - 2012.01.05 05:02:00 -
[373] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:I'm kinda confused. I got an email saying that I was eligible to sign up for beta access. Then in the fine print I read that only players living in Europe and the US will be granted access. Which sucks as I am in Australia.
CCP what's the deal? Are aussies excluded from the beta?
If so, why bother sending out the emails in the first place, you already have the residential locations of players?
can i have yours j/k
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Sokniw
Dead Pod Syndrome MORE.DPS
15
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Posted - 2012.01.05 05:03:00 -
[374] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:I'm kinda confused. I got an email saying that I was eligible to sign up for beta access. Then in the fine print I read that only players living in Europe and the US will be granted access. Which sucks as I am in Australia.
CCP what's the deal? Are aussies excluded from the beta?
If so, why bother sending out the emails in the first place, you already have the residential locations of players?
It was a mass e-mail all active eve subs got this email. |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
1
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Posted - 2012.01.05 05:23:00 -
[375] - Quote
<------ didnt get the email........ does that mean im not eligible? |
Cur
Nova Australis Dark Knights of New Eden
41
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Posted - 2012.01.05 06:11:00 -
[376] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Buy a PS3 like the rest of us hardcore nubtie's did?
I for one will enjoy laughing manicly as i create a Dustbunny empire out in the "dead" 0.0 space areas, then proceed to make people cry by pooping on their "-Ç" |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
124
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Posted - 2012.01.05 10:01:00 -
[377] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:I'm kinda confused. I got an email saying that I was eligible to sign up for beta access. Then in the fine print I read that only players living in Europe and the US will be granted access. Which sucks as I am in Australia.
CCP what's the deal? Are aussies excluded from the beta?
If so, why bother sending out the emails in the first place, you already have the residential locations of players?
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Technically, Australia falls under SCEE (Sony Computer Entertainment Europe). Which means that we should still be able to get in with that group. So pick that one and sign up for the beta. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Elena Heartilly
Mining Company
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:19:00 -
[378] - Quote
Grideris wrote:Flamespar wrote:I'm kinda confused. I got an email saying that I was eligible to sign up for beta access. Then in the fine print I read that only players living in Europe and the US will be granted access. Which sucks as I am in Australia.
CCP what's the deal? Are aussies excluded from the beta?
If so, why bother sending out the emails in the first place, you already have the residential locations of players? I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Technically, Australia falls under SCEE (Sony Computer Entertainment Europe). Which means that we should still be able to get in with that group. So pick that one and sign up for the beta.
Actualy Australia falls under SCEI (sony computter antertainment inc.) and its age rating isnt pegi either so Australia still falls out of the boat by those means. Anyway i sighned up for the beta as i have a PS3 and love to shoot something to oblivion so +1 |
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:48:00 -
[379] - Quote
Quote:It was a mass e-mail all active eve subs got this email.
uhm........ really?
Quote:<------ didnt get the email........ does that mean im not eligible?
Neither did I get any mail so far. Reykjavik set primary. CCP hurry up, call me back or........ run run run!!!! |
Belloche
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
18
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Posted - 2012.01.05 14:37:00 -
[380] - Quote
CCP, at least, can you please give us an idea as to when you will be giving out the Beta Keys? By doing that, you will allow me and others, to stop checking our email every five minutes to see if you sent them. Thank you. |
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Rhizome
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:57:00 -
[381] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:CCP
ALSO I HAPPEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A PS3
Or, apparently, a shift key.
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Cal Gin
The Necromonger
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:02:00 -
[382] - Quote
Instead of complaining about the PS3 exclusivity, which by this time is like beating a dead horse, i have another concern... CCP has mentioned that this Beta will be ongoing and simply transition into the regular game, well if that's the case and we can assume that the training mechanics for DUST will be the same as in EVE then wont people in the DUST Beta get an unfair advantage as they will have the oppourtunity to get up to a few million skill points in the 6 months before the game "officially" comes out this summer? |
Allant Doran
KA POW POW Inc
17
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:43:00 -
[383] - Quote
Cal Gin wrote:Instead of complaining about the PS3 exclusivity, which by this time is like beating a dead horse, i have another concern... CCP has mentioned that this Beta will be ongoing and simply transition into the regular game, well if that's the case and we can assume that the training mechanics for DUST will be the same as in EVE then wont people in the DUST Beta get an unfair advantage as they will have the oppourtunity to get up to a few million skill points in the 6 months before the game "officially" comes out this summer?
Now this i like because you have a genuinly good question and concern.
I'd imagine they will just have a stat/skill reset of the DUST player statistic servers once the game is officially ''out'' but it would be nice to know way ahead of time, just in case this isn't the way it will work, so we can plan ahead.
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N'maro Makari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
28
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:09:00 -
[384] - Quote
With all the crocodlie tears on this thread I could save all the people of Zimbabwe from dehydration and save their crops for at least 2 years. N'maro Makari Special Investigative Officer The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative |
michaelthered
HexEstrella
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:14:00 -
[385] - Quote
i have no issue with CCP expanding out and trying to reach new markets insofar as it doesn't Fck with the existing users game experience who have forked over good cash month after month to support EVE.
As far as Dust is concerned though it appears many of you are hopeless optimists. Dust will fail. I would really need to see proof of this so called "buzz" in PS3 forums. Cause from the people i know, who are all busy playing MW and BF and Halo....."nobody" knows wtf Dust even is. There's just no pedigree here with console players. A ps3 player looking at this game is basically gonna say "so i can blown out of natural space in transit to a planet?".....and that player doesn't even know the half of it. These merc transports are gonna have to have concord escorts cause when this thing drops every PC playing capsuleer in the game is gonna come for them. I know i'm not going to do one ounce of PI anymore if i have to deal with Dust playing ps3 players to defend my installations. No way. If this was on the pc, maybe. PC players are different and we all know that.
Hopefully to make up for this woeful lack of insight....we capsuleers will soon be able to step outside our captains quarters and start some FPS gunplay in stations. Or call up escorts to our quarters....i'll take either one. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
802
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:56:00 -
[386] - Quote
Trairan wrote:Really all the CCP devs think that the players who pay to play EVE Online will buy a PS3 just to play Dust 514? Is a joke?
Actually it was previously stated that CCP wants to attract not Eve players, it's called branching out. Eve players just have to opportunity to see what the inferior little people that play PS3 do.
Yeah, I'm signed up |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
721
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Posted - 2012.01.05 23:14:00 -
[387] - Quote
michaelthered wrote:i have no issue with CCP expanding out and trying to reach new markets insofar as it doesn't Fck with the existing users game experience who have forked over good cash month after month to support EVE. As far as Dust is concerned though it appears many of you are hopeless optimists. Dust will fail. I would really need to see proof of this so called "buzz" in PS3 forums. Cause from the people i know, who are all busy playing MW and BF and Halo....."nobody" knows wtf Dust even is. There's just no pedigree here with console players. A ps3 player looking at this game is basically gonna say "so i can blown out of natural space in transit to a planet?".....and that player doesn't even know the half of it. These merc transports are gonna have to have concord escorts cause when this thing drops every PC playing capsuleer in the game is gonna come for them. I know i'm not going to do one ounce of PI anymore if i have to deal with Dust playing ps3 players to defend my installations. No way. If this was on the pc, maybe. PC players are different and we all know that. Hopefully to make up for this woeful lack of insight....we capsuleers will soon be able to step outside our captains quarters and start some FPS gunplay in stations. Or call up escorts to our quarters....i'll take either one.
I would really need to see proof of your claims that Dust mercs can be simply blown up by capsuleers on a whim - as far as I know CCP hasn't confirmed the details of clones, transports, supply lines, logistics, etc in terms of how corporations and Alliances support their ground troop counterparts.
If what you say is more than pure speculation, please link to your sources. As of right now, we don't even know how sovereignty will be changed to integrate Dust battles - We've seen some sample guns, sample outfits, sample vehicles, some screenshots, but the rest of how exactly Dust integrates with EvE simply hasn't been spoken about by the developers yet.
As far as danger goes for console players, CCP has been clear that there will be phased zoning for the gameplay, with highsec, lowsec, and nullsec involving different levels of risk and reward. So no, a console player isn't going to just log on and be nuked by Eve players with no way to defend themselves.
And yes, if someone is content to play Modern Warfare over and over again, they're probably going to hate Dust 514. That's fine. Dust 514 isn't for those addicted to repetitive deathmatches. Its for all of us who are bored with crap like that. The playerbase CCP will build for Dust simply doesnt exist yet. They will once word gets out.
As I've said before - Dust isn't looking to conquer those games in a sales competition. It doesn't need to. It can start slow, and let word of mouth buzz draw more players in. The players that stick around will be a different, much more hardcore and strategic breed of shooter player much unlike the ones that are gobbling up the latest version of Halo.
Really though, your statement at the end just belies your bias that is all too common in threads like this - you simply think you're better than everyone else because you play on a PC instead of a console. Its prejudice, without any kind of basis in truth. There are just as intelligent and mature a crowd that plays on consoles as PC's, they just haven't had an experience like Dust yet to sink their teeth into.
The stereotypical "Kiddie gamer" you wrongfully assume makes up the entirety of the console gamer crowd out there will run screaming the first time they realize they don't automatically respawn as many times as they want in a match without penalty, and thankfully so. Dust 514 will purge the weak. |
Roga Dracor
Mental Disorders Inc. Chained Reactions
81
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Posted - 2012.01.05 23:30:00 -
[388] - Quote
The apparent air of superiority that capsuleers around here have adopted, is obviously not taking into account the vids released. Planetary batteries taking out a Moros should have given them some pause in their bravado. But, obviously they aren't as sophisticated or well informed as they think. The Dusties are going to have some tricks up their sleeves for Capsuleers who think they are going to roll into a system and "dust" off planetary surfaces with impunity.
Really looking forward to this game. Maybe it will be an MMO with REAL strategic combat, as yet I have found none..
PC's rule many games by virtue of their utter simplicity of interface, not because the operator is "better".. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
721
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Posted - 2012.01.05 23:34:00 -
[389] - Quote
Roga Dracor wrote: The apparent air of superiority that capsuleers around here have adopted...
...is absolutely shameful and reflects poorly on the EvE community. Grow up everyone. Enough of the "stupid console gamers" crap. That argument is old, demonstrates poor sportsmanship, lack of consideration and respect, and doesn't hold any validity at the end of the day.
If you dont like Dust, great, don't play it. But take the "PC gamers are teh best" attitude somewhere else. You guys give the EvE community a bad name.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
199
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Posted - 2012.01.05 23:55:00 -
[390] - Quote
CCP
Please clarify if non EU and US residents that recieved the invite should bother applying to the beta. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.01.06 03:48:00 -
[391] - Quote
Cal Gin wrote:Instead of complaining about the PS3 exclusivity, which by this time is like beating a dead horse, i have another concern... CCP has mentioned that this Beta will be ongoing and simply transition into the regular game, well if that's the case and we can assume that the training mechanics for DUST will be the same as in EVE then wont people in the DUST Beta get an unfair advantage as they will have the oppourtunity to get up to a few million skill points in the 6 months before the game "officially" comes out this summer?
Actually, I think it's only fair that the people who help do the testing get to retain their skillpoints. Apparently, the Aur in PSN Store costs real money, if the 15% free or whatever is to be taken into account, so for those players that make real purchases of that; then I must believe that they will be reimbursed the value in Aur when it goes live out of beta, or retain everything on their characters, and just keep going.
Whatever the case, most Devs make you start from scratch on a new account when you drop Beta, and work your way back up. They also expect massive input, bug reporting, game development advice, and a plethora of other things, while making their beta testers sit under an NDA. All for no benefit, unless you count the anonymity of actually telling the Devs how to develop their game without getting credit for it.
One recent beta was so bad I looked at it, and went "no thanks; more effort than I'm willing to put in." And so, some months later, and game just within a month of release; I am not surprised to see 10 companies spamming my associated email with "Gold" sales. And people still don't believe RMT beta test, and tell the Devs where to nerf the drops, and where to leave them...
Multiple spams, from 2-3 RMT competitors less than 10 days after the game went Live. Why is that? How is that? As far as I know, everybody started fresh-with nothing and new characters/accounts when it went live.
Funny thing is, I saw the direction the game was going, (Thanks to player and tester advice on the forums), half way through development and later, and decided I was no longer interested in playing, or even trying it out. So much for watching it for 4 years.
I've never seen RMT on a console, but I'm sure hoping the same doesn't occur here.
Side note: Didn't EVE roll right from Beta into full game in the same fashion? I'm assuming it did, as every indication I've seen points that way. The way I've heard "we were in beta" players talk anyhow.
To reiterate: I'm all for SP carrying through to live. You shouldn't need to do more than buy the game, to keep going where you left off. Of course, if something goes drastically wrong, and we end up with OP abilities that are nerfed before the end of Beta; I'd like to see them removed. No need for reimbursement.
edit: I say we, but I'm really just hoping I get in. No news yet. Invest the time; get your rewards. ..and I don't mean games designed for exploitation be RMT.
I just say that because it bugs me. See it too much, and it ruins the game. Any game. |
simukz
6
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Posted - 2012.01.06 04:01:00 -
[392] - Quote
when does the "lottery" drawing (choosing) begins and what is the criteria Support https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580
my feature suggestion posts: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44886 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44824 |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
37
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Posted - 2012.01.06 08:42:00 -
[393] - Quote
have ps3 but probably won't be bothered playing dust on it, never enjoyed fps on console, but had a thought, imagine dust becomes huge, and they get an average of 2 million or more players online at any one time, are there enough planets held by players to accomadate them kind of numbers ?
what if dust outgrows the curent eve universe ? shall they increase the amount of systems ? |
Lone Gunman
Forhotea Corporation
16
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Posted - 2012.01.06 08:49:00 -
[394] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote:Side note: Didn't EVE roll right from Beta into full game in the same fashion? I'm assuming it did, as every indication I've seen points that way. The way I've heard "we were in beta" players talk anyhow..
No. All the Beta Characters were wiped and there were no names reserved. You could however train all three alts at the same time during the Beta. In the Beta you could actually transport ISK in your Cargo hold which resulted in duping exploits and although you retained skill points from say phases Medusa -> Gemini all the stacks of Cash I horded in my cargohold were removed.
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Matiel Shrike
Cooked Carbon Cartel
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 15:45:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:Do I get a free PS3 ? Bankrupted by the holidays FIRE THE ORBITAL FRIENDSHIP RAILGUN! *brohoof*
So is this just for PS3? or will it ever be released for the 360? and don't hate PC players, to me using a keyboard and mouse in shooters is impractical and rather stupid, but thats just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours. One other thing: Would i be able to gift this possible code to a friend that does have a PS3? or is there gonna be a big herp derp about it?
Ok, now for concerns about DUST. What if it doesnt catch on? i mean PI really isn't contested that much, and it usually takes a backseat in PVP, so why would we contract DUST players isk just to go fail at taking a planet that we don't really want or need? To merge the games properly, the planetary aspect of EVE would need to be more significant, e.g being able to build surface to orbit rail-batteries (or lasers or missile systems ofc). As they are, i worry that the DUST players won't have enough to do, unless the contracted fights for EVE players are just one game mode, and there being a standard shooter mode where the matches do have significant importance (in a planetary conquest or something) but actually does not affect EVE itself.
I'm just spitballing with these ideas and possibilities, but its just something that i feel should be considered. Oh and CCP, releasing DUST onto the other platforms (Xbox and the PC) could greatly enhance your fanbase and potential profit margins if the launch and implementations are successful.
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Matiel Shrike
Cooked Carbon Cartel
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 15:56:00 -
[396] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:michaelthered wrote:i have no issue with CCP expanding out and trying to reach new markets insofar as it doesn't Fck with the existing users game experience who have forked over good cash month after month to support EVE. As far as Dust is concerned though it appears many of you are hopeless optimists. Dust will fail. I would really need to see proof of this so called "buzz" in PS3 forums. Cause from the people i know, who are all busy playing MW and BF and Halo....."nobody" knows wtf Dust even is. There's just no pedigree here with console players. A ps3 player looking at this game is basically gonna say "so i can blown out of natural space in transit to a planet?".....and that player doesn't even know the half of it. These merc transports are gonna have to have concord escorts cause when this thing drops every PC playing capsuleer in the game is gonna come for them. I know i'm not going to do one ounce of PI anymore if i have to deal with Dust playing ps3 players to defend my installations. No way. If this was on the pc, maybe. PC players are different and we all know that. Hopefully to make up for this woeful lack of insight....we capsuleers will soon be able to step outside our captains quarters and start some FPS gunplay in stations. Or call up escorts to our quarters....i'll take either one. I would really need to see proof of your claims that Dust mercs can be simply blown up by capsuleers on a whim - as far as I know CCP hasn't confirmed the details of clones, transports, supply lines, logistics, etc in terms of how corporations and Alliances support their ground troop counterparts. If what you say is more than pure speculation, please link to your sources. As of right now, we don't even know how sovereignty will be changed to integrate Dust battles - We've seen some sample guns, sample outfits, sample vehicles, some screenshots, but the rest of how exactly Dust integrates with EvE simply hasn't been spoken about by the developers yet. As far as danger goes for console players, CCP has been clear that there will be phased zoning for the gameplay, with highsec, lowsec, and nullsec involving different levels of risk and reward. So no, a console player isn't going to just log on and be nuked by Eve players with no way to defend themselves. And yes, if someone is content to play Modern Warfare over and over again, they're probably going to hate Dust 514. That's fine. Dust 514 isn't for those addicted to repetitive deathmatches. Its for all of us who are bored with crap like that. The playerbase CCP will build for Dust simply doesnt exist yet. They will once word gets out. As I've said before - Dust isn't looking to conquer those games in a sales competition. It doesn't need to. It can start slow, and let word of mouth buzz draw more players in. The players that stick around will be a different, much more hardcore and strategic breed of shooter player much unlike the ones that are gobbling up the latest version of Halo. Really though, your statement at the end just belies your bias that is all too common in threads like this - you simply think you're better than everyone else because you play on a PC instead of a console. Its prejudice, without any kind of basis in truth. There are just as intelligent and mature a crowd that plays on consoles as PC's, they just haven't had an experience like Dust yet to sink their teeth into. The stereotypical "Kiddie gamer" you wrongfully assume makes up the entirety of the console gamer crowd out there will run screaming the first time they realize they don't automatically respawn as many times as they want in a match without penalty, and thankfully so. Dust 514 will purge the weak.
FINALLY someone who shares my opinion on this! I mean after about a day or so of the new game buzz, games like call of duty and battlefield (but not as uch BF3 cus of there being a decent amount of tactics and complementing elements) just lose their touch to me, i like to be defending some imposing bastion with the knowledge that if my team fails, we get to watch it blow up or some shizz like that! And also with the PC gamer thing, yeah, console gamers are prejudiced too much into being shown as children that have no measure of intelligence. It's got to stop, because in my prejudiced opinion (not my real opinion) PC shooter gamers are just abnoxious assholes that always believe to be better than everyone else just because their way overpriced gaming laptop makes them better and beating the living shizzle out of others. |
Matiel Shrike
Cooked Carbon Cartel
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 16:01:00 -
[397] - Quote
FIRE THE ORBITAL FRIENDSHIP RAILGUN!
So is this just for PS3? or will it ever be released for the 360? and don't hate PC players, to me using a keyboard and mouse in shooters is impractical and rather stupid, but thats just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours. One other thing: Would i be able to gift this possible code to a friend that does have a PS3? or is there gonna be a big herp derp about it?
Ok, now for concerns about DUST. What if it doesnt catch on? i mean PI really isn't contested that much, and it usually takes a backseat in PVP, so why would we contract DUST players isk just to go fail at taking a planet that we don't really want or need? To merge the games properly, the planetary aspect of EVE would need to be more significant, e.g being able to build surface to orbit rail-batteries (or lasers or missile systems ofc). As they are, i worry that the DUST players won't have enough to do, unless the contracted fights for EVE players are just one game mode, and there being a standard shooter mode where the matches do have significant importance (in a planetary conquest or something) but actually does not affect EVE itself.
I'm just spitballing with these ideas and possibilities, but its just something that i feel should be considered. Oh and CCP, releasing DUST onto the other platforms (Xbox and the PC) could greatly enhance your fanbase and potential profit margins if the launch and implementations are successful.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
731
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Posted - 2012.01.06 16:39:00 -
[398] - Quote
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:have ps3 but probably won't be bothered playing dust on it, never enjoyed fps on console, but had a thought, imagine dust becomes huge, and they get an average of 2 million or more players online at any one time, are there enough planets held by players to accomadate them kind of numbers ?
what if dust outgrows the curent eve universe ? shall they increase the amount of systems ?
Nice to see someone hypothesizing about a GOOD outcome from Dust instead of the typical "fail" predictions.
I can hardly see this as a bad thing - if 2 million people got hooked on Dust no doubt a good portion would pick up EvE as well, benefiting our community greatly. I see nothing wrong with adding planets and expanding the EvE universe!
Maybe an endless supply of Dust mercs will give capsuleers the power they need to push into Jove space :) (I'm not holding my breath though....) |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
731
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Posted - 2012.01.06 17:12:00 -
[399] - Quote
Matiel Shrike wrote:FIRE THE ORBITAL FRIENDSHIP RAILGUN!
So is this just for PS3? or will it ever be released for the 360? and don't hate PC players, to me using a keyboard and mouse in shooters is impractical and rather stupid, but thats just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours. One other thing: Would i be able to gift this possible code to a friend that does have a PS3? or is there gonna be a big herp derp about it?
Ok, now for concerns about DUST. What if it doesnt catch on? i mean PI really isn't contested that much, and it usually takes a backseat in PVP, so why would we contract DUST players isk just to go fail at taking a planet that we don't really want or need? To merge the games properly, the planetary aspect of EVE would need to be more significant, e.g being able to build surface to orbit rail-batteries (or lasers or missile systems ofc). As they are, i worry that the DUST players won't have enough to do, unless the contracted fights for EVE players are just one game mode, and there being a standard shooter mode where the matches do have significant importance (in a planetary conquest or something) but actually does not affect EVE itself.
I'm just spitballing with these ideas and possibilities, but its just something that i feel should be considered. Oh and CCP, releasing DUST onto the other platforms (Xbox and the PC) could greatly enhance your fanbase and potential profit margins if the launch and implementations are successful.
Yes, its just for PS3 - Microsoft would not allow CCP to run Dust on their own server, and would have required ALL downloads be charged a fee, killing their philosophy of free expansions. Too many issues would have hampered the vision CCP wants to implement between Dust and EvE, so its PS3 exlcusive for now. There is talk about the PS3 agreement only being for a year, so it MAY go to PC, we'll just have to see. I'm curious about the year-long exclsusive deal, anyone have a link to confirm this?
As for the PI / Dust / Eve interaction - obviously there is some work to be done there, I imagine CCP has a lot of that worked out (if we're still on track for Spring release) but just hasn't dev-blogged about it yet. I think this is the gray area that deserves some clarification "soon TM". Everything that CCP has said so far points at the link being far more than just PI - the whole nullsec soveriegnty system will be tied to Dust. Alliances w\ill need to seize territorial control bunkers on planets, not just bust them in space like they do now, if they want to maintain hold over a region. The devil is in the details of course, I have no idea whether we'll see the soveriegnty overhaul before or concurrent with Dust 514's release.
And no, not everything in Dust will be 100% Eve-dependent, they've mentioned in previous articles that there will be a tiered highsec, lowsec, nullsec system just like EvE - my guess is that Highsec is where you can practice against the computer, and farm starter gear and isk by doing missions, lowsec will be PvP but more casual, perhaps a quick matchmaking-lobby type deal, or something to do with Faction Warfare (thats probably wishful thinking on my part), whereas null will be the hardcore player-dependent contracts and troop movements. Again, this is what I've pieced together from snippets of press releases here and there, the details haven't been fully outlined. |
Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.06 19:56:00 -
[400] - Quote
I am checking my e-mail nearly a hundred times a day to see if there has been any news on the Beta... PLEASE MOAR INFOZ. |
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Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.06 22:26:00 -
[401] - Quote
Same here! My wifes getting tired of hearing me talk about it. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.01.06 23:26:00 -
[402] - Quote
Lone Gunman wrote:Mars Theran wrote:Side note: Didn't EVE roll right from Beta into full game in the same fashion? I'm assuming it did, as every indication I've seen points that way. The way I've heard "we were in beta" players talk anyhow.. No. All the Beta Characters were wiped and there were no names reserved. You could however train all three alts at the same time during the Beta. In the Beta you could actually transport ISK in your Cargo hold which resulted in duping exploits and although you retained skill points from say phases Medusa -> Gemini all the stacks of Cash I horded in my cargohold were removed.
ISK in the cargohold is awesome. Interesting about the Beta caracter wipe bit; although it is reasonable for them to do that. More practical on PC than console I'd imagine. I've never seen or heard of a console beta test though, so I've no idea really. |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 23:37:00 -
[403] - Quote
Come on people, keep bumping until they give us a key release date :P |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
45
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Posted - 2012.01.06 23:53:00 -
[404] - Quote
thub wrote:Come on people, keep bumping until they give us a key release date :P
given they've already stated that scams regarding those are banable offence i think whoever was supposed to get them already got them :( |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.07 03:25:00 -
[405] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:thub wrote:Come on people, keep bumping until they give us a key release date :P given they've already stated that scams regarding those are banable offence i think whoever was supposed to get them already got them :(
I have a feeling your right tho it would be nice to have confirmation. |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
1
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Posted - 2012.01.07 06:23:00 -
[406] - Quote
god dangit will the suspense never end! its killing me!!!
bump |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
940
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:46:00 -
[407] - Quote
Matiel Shrike wrote:Would i be able to gift this possible code to a friend that does have a PS3? or is there gonna be a big herp derp about it?
This needs to be answered asap.
Also would be nice to know when the selection process actually starts or if it's already done.
The main reason I registered is because my nephew has a PS3 and lives about 20 miles away. Quite a few times he's asked me when is the Beta going to be released. He's actually very excited about it (much more than I am) and is very interested due to viewing the videos and the available little information about it.
CCP, you have some potential customers waiting.
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Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:41:00 -
[408] - Quote
I can understand the reasons for NDA, but I can't see any reason why CCP would not tell us that invites have already gone out, congrats to the lucky people etc. There is no harm in that. Then we can all stop posting about it! |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
1
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Posted - 2012.01.07 18:50:00 -
[409] - Quote
pretty sure if the beta sign up processing had ended there wouldnt be a sign up page anymore. and ccp would of told us that beta sign up has ended.. glass is still half full |
Denidil
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
254
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Posted - 2012.01.08 00:03:00 -
[410] - Quote
make the game available on a real platform Bored in 0.0?-á reset all standings.
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coolzero
The Replicators Northern Associates.
13
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:15:00 -
[411] - Quote
Belloche wrote:CCP, at least, can you please give us an idea as to when you will be giving out the Beta Keys? By doing that, you will allow me and others, to stop checking our email every five minutes to see if you sent them. Thank you.
this.....good idea CCP :P tired of checking my email
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Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 02:54:00 -
[412] - Quote
I am a PSN beta tester, eager to get my hands on this beta.
Will your be running a full open beta at some point? |
LeHarfang
Intersteller Masons Wonder Kids
19
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Posted - 2012.01.08 03:40:00 -
[413] - Quote
I really dont get it that you arent going to port it on PC as well. I mean, the argument of unfair advantage for PC users doesn't even stand since PS3s can use keyboards and mouses as well and you said Dust will be compatible with them.
I mean, is it only for the "exclusive" tag that youre doing this or what? |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 03:43:00 -
[414] - Quote
They probably only handed out keys to PSN + members :/ |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
2
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Posted - 2012.01.08 04:25:00 -
[415] - Quote
;) hopefully im one of them |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.01.08 04:46:00 -
[416] - Quote
Assuming PSN + members get first go myself. Holding out hope that, given the number of players in this thread who obviously also did not get in; which is by all appearances most of them, I may still have a chance. |
Giovanni Auditore
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
4
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Posted - 2012.01.08 06:38:00 -
[417] - Quote
[quote=m3talc0re X]Me, along with probably everyone else, has been dying for an EVE based fps game. I'm not buying a PS3 for it though. Putting it on PS3 only and nothing for PC at all is a kick in the face.. I can understand wanting to branch out and make more isk (iceland's currency...), but not giving it to us PC players is downright insulting.[/quote
oh so thats what ISK comes from.. i did not know this.. i feel stupid. xD |
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 08:43:00 -
[418] - Quote
I don't agree with all those saying the beta will be most likely for PS+ members. This is the beta, and CCP offered it to us EVE players using directly the account management. If they wanted to offer it for a semi commercial purpose to their future player base, they just would have adressed PS+ subbers directly. At the contrary I think they are trying to find a way to let us ALL have at least a chance to test it. I mean: the more of us who will try it, the more the feedbacks. And I don't think we will be billions and trillions btw. Probably they'll try to balance squads on a timezone base, but I'm just guessing.
Of course I'll be wrong, but the reason I'm bumping the topic here is that I just want to ask CCP some informations. It's not necessary to make a mistery upon somehting totally unknown and to retain basic informations where there is no information at all. Do you remember about your solemn promises about not to fall again into your "poor information syndrome"? Well this is (was) a good chance.
Is it too much to come here and tell us about your intentions? An idea about _when_, are we asking too much maybe? |
Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 11:24:00 -
[419] - Quote
I think your maybe missing the point of a closed beta. Testing is always subject to non disclosure. The beta has been announced, we have had the opportunity to register interest, now we wait for further details and a possible invite |
Flamespar
Woof Club
202
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Posted - 2012.01.08 11:50:00 -
[420] - Quote
I'm pretty certain that keys have not yet been sent out.
I mean, if they were, people would be boasting about it.
I know I would, if I got one. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 12:02:00 -
[421] - Quote
I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO |
Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.08 12:13:00 -
[422] - Quote
LeHarfang wrote:I really dont get it that you arent going to port it on PC as well. I mean, the argument of unfair advantage for PC users doesn't even stand since PS3s can use keyboards and mouses as well and you said Dust will be compatible with them.
I mean, is it only for the "exclusive" tag that youre doing this or what?
The point of DUST 514 is to promote integrated cross-platform gaming.
What would be the point of that if it was on PC?
None of your whining or crying is going to make it any different, buy or steal yourself a PS3 and shut up.
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DragonGrace
Black-Void BLACK-VOID.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:55:00 -
[423] - Quote
my request is submitted, i sure hope i get a chance to beta test this....ive been waiting for 3 years now for this chance :)
eve and dust, the only gaming universe that will matter :)
-D.G |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
5
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Posted - 2012.01.08 21:00:00 -
[424] - Quote
LeHarfang wrote:I really dont get it that you arent going to port it on PC as well. I mean, the argument of unfair advantage for PC users doesn't even stand since PS3s can use keyboards and mouses as well and you said Dust will be compatible with them.
I mean, is it only for the "exclusive" tag that youre doing this or what?
I recall the keyboard was going to be compatible to facilitate communications, but I do not remember reading anything that confirmed absolutely that keyboard and mouse will be supported while fighting. If I'm wrong please post a source and I will shut my mouth.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO Also I second this. A little love CCP. |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 02:38:00 -
[425] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO
third |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
744
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Posted - 2012.01.09 03:23:00 -
[426] - Quote
LeHarfang wrote:I really dont get it that you arent going to port it on PC as well. I mean, the argument of unfair advantage for PC users doesn't even stand since PS3s can use keyboards and mouses as well and you said Dust will be compatible with them.
I mean, is it only for the "exclusive" tag that youre doing this or what?
This game is designed to innovate. To do something new. And to promote cross-platform gaming.
It fails in these goals if it is just another PC game.
Its not about selling copies. It's not about making EvE players happy.
It's about expanding the EvE world to a new group of players that play on a different platform. The best way to achieve this goal is to only have the game on a different platform, lest everyone simply default to using their PC's and missing the target audience entirely.
CCP knows those that actually want to play bad enough will buy up a PS3 to do so, many of us have. And if not, thats an acceptable situation to them as well.
Its a simple matter of priorities. Having the project successfully demonstrate the potential of cross-platform gameplay means more to CCP than making the most isk, or making the most friends. Money is certainly important to them, but I'm sure their marketing department sees more long-term income potential in having what will start out likely as a cult PS3 game spread virally over a few years throughout the console world, than having a small portion of the EvE crowd stop playing EvE for a bit to try Dust 514 and move back to EvE when they're bored.
As I've said before, they have no magical sales goal they have to hit to make their money back. There's no need to try to appease everyone, time is on their side with this one since its mostly been paid for.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
204
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Posted - 2012.01.09 03:45:00 -
[427] - Quote
Guess what I got in my email today :) I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
204
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Posted - 2012.01.09 04:11:00 -
[428] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Guess what I got in my email today :)
Nothing I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 08:06:00 -
[429] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO
Fourth'd (keep this **** bumped. CCP nees to give us an answer ) |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
746
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Posted - 2012.01.09 09:06:00 -
[430] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Flamespar wrote:Guess what I got in my email today :) Nothing
You jerk!! Due to the way my screen was scrolling, I genuinely got excited there for about 2.5 seconds.....than was crushed. Dont do that to us again plz, thats just cruel! |
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STHellRaiser Zentom
Spaceboobs
2
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Posted - 2012.01.09 09:18:00 -
[431] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO i agree with the above post so bumping again
ccp you wanted to communicate more with your player/fans here is your chance to prove that yous have changed for the better,
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Balthazar Baraz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:48:00 -
[432] - Quote
I can haz moar infoz ? |
Spahz
Sin-Tech
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:03:00 -
[433] - Quote
STHellRaiser Zentom wrote:Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:I know what is a "closed beta" and I've signed DPA before so I can't find where I'm missing something. I'm just asking for some little more information about CCP intentions about _when_ to start the thing up. Options are (example):
1- in 1 week from "now" 2- in less than 1 month 3- in at least one month 4- when we'll have reached the $put_a_number_here subscribers 5- when we'll have at least $put_a_number_here players for each timezone 6- there's no 6 7- we have things to fix with sony (assuming the beta will be running on their servers). As soon as we'll have them fixed we can start deploying the beta for the "elected ones" 8- any other option clarifying something about their technical requirements
So, again, I guess it's really just a "poor communication issue" what we're facing. It wouldn't change a thing to be informed about these basic elements and of course I don't think their plans should change because "we want", just to know something more. A better interaction with the community at this point should only bring more interest (and buzz) so...... why not?
IMHO i agree with the above post so bumping again ccp you wanted to communicate more with your player/fans here is your chance to prove that yous have changed for the better,
Hello? is this thing on? A little update would go a long way here. -spz |
Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:49:00 -
[434] - Quote
For gods sake show a little bit of patients.
I have no idea how the new console MMO will generate a revenue for CCP but I know for sure they wouldn't want their competitors knowing about it before they had even got a release.
If you want information be patient, you are getting a genuine opportunity to get early access to the flagship console title which has potential to change console gaming for everyone.
I appreciate we all have questions about the impact on eve but since when did CCP start giving market traders and builders insider information on the types of ships and goods that will in demand when Dust hits the shelves?
I'm looking for new recruits for my corp by the way, if anyone is looking for a new Eve/Dust corp. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
205
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:24:00 -
[435] - Quote
Oustanding issues on this thread
1. Do players need a Playstation Plus account? 2. Why did non EU and US players get an invite if they are not actually allowed in the Beta? (can Aussies participate?) 3. Launch window for the beta? 4. Will EVE-side features of the beta be up for testing on SiSi? Will EVE and Dust players be able to interact? 5. Will the Playstation Vita be part of the Beta? 6. Length of the beta 7. Will characters be wiped after closed beta? 8. When will the Beta keys be issued? \ Bonus question: When will Flamespar get his invite. Look, he made you a handy list. See how helpful he is? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
752
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:34:00 -
[436] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote: I have no idea how the new console MMO will generate a revenue for CCP but I know for sure they wouldn't want their competitors knowing about it before they had even got a release.
If you want information be patient, you are getting a genuine opportunity to get early access to the flagship console title which has potential to change console gaming for everyone.
I appreciate we all have questions about the impact on eve but since when did CCP start giving market traders and builders insider information on the types of ships and goods that will in demand when Dust hits the shelves?
Ummm CCP has already said Dust 514 will be supported by microtransactions? the destructible nature of Dust 514 clones and equipment (Thats right guys, no unlimited respawns here, you die, you lose your stuffs, you pay to get more!!) means that console players will be purchasing Aurum to buy equipment with. Dust 514 has always had a microtransaction-based business model, this was known going all the way back (and was part of the controversy) to the "Fearless" newsletter last summer. "The towels are free if you want to swim in the pool - but you'll pay for the goggles" was the mindset, and nothing's changed since than.
That aside, what is all this about insider trading, and ships and goods being in demand?
All i see here is a bunch of anxious beta testers wondering when the action begins, and how people will be selected from the pool of applicants, that's not unreasonable information to be requesting.
Many people have literally gone out and bought PS3's so they could be ready when this day came - they deserve a little more than to be left hanging. CCP doesn't have to "give away trade secrets" just to tell fans if / when they will be selected to participate.
And than, after complaining about people abusing this thread for personal gain, and being impatient in general, you than spam for recruitment for your own corp ??
You're all over the place, I don't follow you here at all.....
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Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:58:00 -
[437] - Quote
All I understand from your response is a desire to post a negative spin on every one of my point, I can understand the odd negative but to try and find a flaw in every point I can only draw to the conclusion you are trolling. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
752
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Posted - 2012.01.09 23:21:00 -
[438] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote:All I understand from your response is a desire to post a negative spin on every one of my point, I can understand the odd negative but to try and find a flaw in every point I can only draw to the conclusion you are trolling.
I apologize if you mistook me for a troll. The first part of my post I was trying to answer your question about microtransactions, I thought it would be helpful for you to know what the payment scheme was since you asked. I mean this with sincerity.
I said the second part because I honestly don't know what you were referring to about the value of goods, and market competition, I'd appreciate it if you could clarify what you meant. I didn't mean to come across as negative, all of us post things from time to time that are unclear, myself included.
The players here are simply asking for more details about the Beta testing schedule, can you help me understand what you meant by insider information, and the trading of goods regarding Dust 514....? Did you mean market competition like other game companies? or EvE players trying to game the market based on information they gain from the Dust beta...
I ask this because I, too, love hearing details about Dust 514 that I might of missed! If you know something we don't, please share, we'd love to hear!
Also, there's nothing wrong about recruiting for your corp either, Its just odd for someone to tell a thread full of posters to be stop begging and to be patient about an unreleased game, than begin recruiting for said game that isn't even out yet.....it just sends mixed messages. |
Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 23:53:00 -
[439] - Quote
The first point is to emphasise the issues surrounding microtransactions and the integration of a console MMO with a PC MMO, if CCP has evidence as to the success and longevity of their business model I am certain that their industry competitors will be looking to jump into their slip stream.
My point over insider trading is strategic rather than directly related to the aurum/isk split. For example, if you calculate the demand for PI items through exposure to Dust game mechanics, or identify a new role for a Dreadnaught it would be hard to resist exploiting that kind of information.
Recruiting was my attempt to be funny but also legitimately this is a good opportunity to find new corpies who also own a PS3, if you play Eve and Dust you'll want to be a part of a cross platform corporation. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
753
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:02:00 -
[440] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote:The first point is to emphasise the issues surrounding microtransactions and the integration of a console MMO with a PC MMO, if CCP has evidence as to the success and longevity of their business model I am certain that their industry competitors will be looking to jump into their slip stream.
My point over insider trading is strategic rather than directly related to the aurum/isk split. For example, if you calculate the demand for PI items through exposure to Dust game mechanics, or identify a new role for a Dreadnaught it would be hard to resist exploiting that kind of information.
Yes yes, but what does this have to do with players asking about when the Beta is released? Are you suggesting that the Beta should not be released at all, or be delayed, to prevent the issues you are describing here from causing problems?
Again, I'm asking serious questions, I'm not trying to sound cynical or negative here. |
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Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:09:00 -
[441] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote:I think your maybe missing the point of a closed beta. Testing is always subject to non disclosure. The beta has been announced, we have had the opportunity to register interest, now we wait for further details and a possible invite
I direct you to my original post. I see a lot of posts here crying that CCP are holding out or not communicating to their players, yet CCP only announced the beta two weeks ago and I believe they do more than most with their regular dev blogs. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
753
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Posted - 2012.01.10 00:38:00 -
[442] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote:Decimat Draconia wrote:I think your maybe missing the point of a closed beta. Testing is always subject to non disclosure. The beta has been announced, we have had the opportunity to register interest, now we wait for further details and a possible invite I direct you to my original post. I see a lot of posts here crying that CCP are holding out or not communicating to their players, yet CCP only announced the beta two weeks ago and I believe they do more than most with their regular dev blogs.
Ahhhh got it. I missed that post, everything you said makes a lot more sense now. Fair point.
I don't really sense an air of anger or hostility in the thread though, more like just excited anticipation.
This is far more like being a kid at Christmas and not being able to wait to open you presents, than it is the angry pitchfork WTF mob that formed up following Incarna. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
17
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Posted - 2012.01.10 06:47:00 -
[443] - Quote
Dear Capsuleers,
Thank you for your interest regarding the DUST 514 MordusGÇÖs Private Trials registration. I would like to take this opportunity to address some of the concerns raised in this thread.
With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
And remember, the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials is still in the registration phase, and that is open to all EVE Online players.
With regards to the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials registration confirmation issue, we will be adding a status page to the EVE Online account management page for those who have signed up to participate in the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials, so you can keep tabs on the status of your registration.
Thank you for your patience and continued support.
CCP Cmdr Wang
And the DUST 514 Team
DUST 514 Community Manager |
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
129
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Posted - 2012.01.10 07:38:00 -
[444] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
Thank you for your interest regarding the DUST 514 MordusGÇÖs Private Trials registration. I would like to take this opportunity to address some of the concerns raised in this thread.
With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
And remember, the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials is still in the registration phase, and that is open to all EVE Online players.
With regards to the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials registration confirmation issue, we will be adding a status page to the EVE Online account management page for those who have signed up to participate in the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials, so you can keep tabs on the status of your registration.
Thank you for your patience and continued support.
CCP Cmdr Wang
And the DUST 514 Team
So that means that Australia is going to be able to get in the private trials?
Also, is the status page live yet? I can't see it anywhere. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
2
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Posted - 2012.01.10 07:51:00 -
[445] - Quote
First of all thanks for answering somehow, even if...... did you anser any of our questions?
Prolly I'm more confused than before. You talked about regional issues with the language, saying only "English speaking regions" will be allowed to play. So, if I'm not wrong these "regions" (not existing anymore since the colonialist era), are now these nations: Canda, USA, England, Ireland, South Africa, Australia (+ some sparse island in the middle of nothing somewhere). Note that Iceland shouldn't belong to any "english speaking region" I'm aware of.
So, this is how I interpret your message: "If your not living in one of the named english speaking _nations_ you won't be allowed in the beta". Otherwise since we EVE players are from all over the world and 90% of us is playing on a english client already, why all that troubles for the beta to be localized? Is it all because of sony/PSN restrictions? Guess so
Most of all, you didn't give us any time margin, not even the most vague and faint. How's that? Don't you have the lightest idea about how long will it take? That's me just guessing but anyway I've got the message: I'll be out from this beta, thanks. |
Gyges Skyeye
Five Taxes Guardians Templar of Draconis
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 07:51:00 -
[446] - Quote
Thanks for the heads up Commander Wang.
Getting into the beta will make right all ails, heal the lame, and cure the blind. But for those ps3 only people: Are there more devblogs in the works?
Also, where is this Status page? I checked the old https://secure.eveonline.com/mpt and only come to the registration page. If its not live yet, can we get clarification on that?
Thanks |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
172
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:06:00 -
[447] - Quote
He did say "we will be adding a status page". Just a couple hours ago. give them a couple hours/days to finish up the page.
When the page exists then we know some luck people have access. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:06:00 -
[448] - Quote
Gyges Skyeye wrote:Thanks for the heads up Commander Wang. Getting into the beta will make right all ails, heal the lame, and cure the blind. But for those ps3 only people: Are there more devblogs in the works? Also, where is this Status page? I checked the old https://secure.eveonline.com/mpt and only come to the registration page. If its not live yet, can we get clarification on that? Thanks
We are working on creating the status page and it should be up and running soon. And yes, there will be more dev blogs coming. :) DUST 514 Community Manager |
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:28:00 -
[449] - Quote
What the hell is that announcement !!!?
So living in France is a deal breaker even when understanding, speaking or writing in english is not a problem ?!
And, as i understand that localization wont be complete until the game's release, this means that even when the beta is gonna be open to PS3 only players, it will only be for English people....
No need to say that i m quite pissed reading this 1h after waking up.... As usual, the same ones gets it all.... |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
172
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:39:00 -
[450] - Quote
I think he is daying that if you select Engilish on the PS3 you have access but if you select any other language there will not be any links or access. |
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:52:00 -
[451] - Quote
A bunch of things i dont get here....
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area.
So, is it region based as in SCEE, SCEA etc.... ? Or country based as in England, Ireland, Wales, US, Canada ?
And what is that "you should be able to acces DUST 514 MPT" ? Does that mean that you wont need any code to get acces to the beta ? It will be open to anyone living in an official English Country ?
Very clear update. |
Praerian
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.10 09:07:00 -
[452] - Quote
The information regarding the private trials has just been poor all together.
Better off with a very full explanatory dev blog before the registration one went out. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
272
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Posted - 2012.01.10 09:35:00 -
[453] - Quote
Your update doesnt clear anything up, it confuses us even more -.-
Will i be able to participate in the MPT if i live outside of the UK in the EU or not? |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 09:59:00 -
[454] - Quote
Jack bubu wrote:Your update doesnt clear anything up, it confuses us even more -.-
Will i be able to participate in the MPT if i live outside of the UK in the EU or not?
PL is here trolling as always (I hope.... lol that would be pretty stupid like PL otherwise)
What the GM means is that the beta is focusing on their prime demographic which is english speaking countries. Why not english speaking players? well that is complicated but I will go ahead and break it down so no one bitches about this again.
A english speaking country will have a predominant amount of it's citizens speaking english as a primary language. HOWEVER a non english speaking country can still have english speakers in it. For example, lets take some random eastern european country, or middle eastern country, they may have a few english speaking people, but that does not mean the country is worth targeting if they are looking for a LARGE amount of english speakers.
You see, each country has different laws which often require each country (region) to have a separate digital store. Why may you say this? well it is because if a country like Australia decides to ban my little pony funtime adventure for "being too violent" sony can just remove that game from their SPECIAL STORE just for Australia rather than having to do complex region filters, or not have it in the store at all for the world (lol why would they ever do the latter). Lets not forget for non english speaking countries, games offered in the store will also be in their native language.
THIS IS WHY THERE ARE REGION LIMITS!!!!11!11!!!!!!11
~edit: Also thank that facking dev, commander wang not only has an awesome name, but at least he (or his superiors ordering him to) were nice enough to give us the information they did. If you still want to *****, you can go play WoW or any other MMO that has NO dev blogs and LITTLE dev-community interaction. What it comes down to is the more a game developer tells the gamers, the more the gamers complain about the devs not giving enough. In all honesty this is a choice that they made to either try and keep their customers happy and possibly raise profits, OR they love their work so much they love boasting about it (which is perfectly fine too if they do good work) |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:39:00 -
[455] - Quote
Thub, i really dislike your patronizing tone... I think everyone here understands CCP's need to have players in the beta who are able to : - Understand the game as it will be in English only during the beta - Provide usefull feedback in English as well.
But as you said, you can find English speaking players all around the world. The EVE player base is the perfect exemple of it.
Me, I ve been waiting this game for a looooooong time now. Translating all articles and Devblog about it to make the informations on it available to the non so lucky french players that can't follow when it's in english. And obviously, waiting eagerly for the beta to start.
Then, i first learned that part one of it would be for EVE players only. Even if it is frustrating, it seems kinda logical. They are the best suited to give the first feedback as they re supposed to know the universe like their own pockets and would provide feedback much more relevant than a common PS3 user. So be it, i suscribed a month of EVE just to register for MPT and discover EVE universe at the same time.
Then, as it has already been said, the beta will be open to a certain amount of PS3 only players wich i really want to be part of. And today, i learn that i may not have the slightest chance.... So it is not so much about bitc**** than it is about being disappointed... Besides, I remember some beta testing where you had to fill out a form, explain why you wanted to be part of it, your past experience in same types of games etc.... With that kind of selection Devs can have exactly what they want : Players who master English, who are genuinely interested in the game and not just by the "i played it first" feeling.... And more importantly, players that will be usefull...
Also, is it fair if the beta is at a time open for all PS3 users of English Speaking countries ? (with no need to have an acces key or something like that) Those players will have a massive advantage when the game comes out. And as it is ALWAYS the same people, it is getting really annoying.
Besides, i bet you're citizen in one of those lucky English Speaking countries.... No problem for you right ? So the others can go scr** themselves ?
Nice..
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eliorra
Silmarils Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:16:00 -
[456] - Quote
Je plussoie! If CCP ignores non engish speaking communities ,it will create frustration and anger for those who have been waiting dust for so long now. You made this choice maybe to reduce test server load or i don't know.But in the end it might be the wrong choice. |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
67
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:24:00 -
[457] - Quote
It in english because most of us speak english as a second or first language, deal with it spaniards. |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
129
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:29:00 -
[458] - Quote
Alright, let me help clear up the waters.
According to the conditions on the sign up page, it says anyone in those areas is welcome to sign up. HOWEVER, it also states that the Private Trial will be conducted in English. Basically, as long as you're in one of those areas and you can understand English, you should be able to get in. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Oleifr
PROJECT DEEPSPACE
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:45:00 -
[459] - Quote
hej ccp you really look like you dont give a fu.ck
as he stated early in his post if your fuckin country is an offical english speaking country ur maybe in.. so ur from france out. ur from germany out. ur from poland out. easier is to say, if ur from europe and not from ireland or uk ur out.
hope u dont bind sov mechanic to dust if u do so u will fu.ck up both games dust and eve ... |
Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:52:00 -
[460] - Quote
I hope I this helps, the information is a little out of date but I believe it is still relevant. On occasion PSN beta members are recruited through the Playstation forums, the following criteria has in the past been specified, again this information is a little bit out of date I will try to get more up to date info and feed it back here.
- Aged 18 or over;
- Able to read and give feedback in English as the Beta Trials are in English only;
- A European resident;
- Owner of a PLAYSTATION-«3 or PlayStation-«Portable with a broadband internet connection and a European PLAYSTATION-«Network master account;
- Allready a member of our Official PLAYSTATION-« Forums;
Obviously this is not geared towards Dust beta but more a generic PSN recruitment requirement and I only have access to the EU forums not the US which are separate. |
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Arumator
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:26:00 -
[461] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
Thank you for your interest regarding the DUST 514 MordusGÇÖs Private Trials registration. I would like to take this opportunity to address some of the concerns raised in this thread.
With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
And remember, the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials is still in the registration phase, and that is open to all EVE Online players.
With regards to the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials registration confirmation issue, we will be adding a status page to the EVE Online account management page for those who have signed up to participate in the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials, so you can keep tabs on the status of your registration.
Thank you for your patience and continued support.
CCP Cmdr Wang
And the DUST 514 Team
What about native English speakers in say Japan? Also if it is localized can I turn the game to English when it is released in Japan?
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:08:00 -
[462] - Quote
Arumator wrote:
What about native English speakers in say Japan? Also if it is localized can I turn the game to English when it is released in Japan?
According to the announcement, i d say it is even worse than being in a Non-English european country mate... Cause if it is, by luck, "English speaking region" and not "English speaking country", Asia will still be on the wrong side...
Let's just wait for further precision on the matter. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
65
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:59:00 -
[463] - Quote
does germany count as an english speaking region since pretty much everyone speaks english ? |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
755
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:06:00 -
[464] - Quote
Salpun wrote:I think he is saying that if you select Engilish on the PS3 you have access but if you select any other language there will not be any links or access.
QFT - If you all can read and write and post in this forum, in this language, you all should be fine to log in and participate in the beta test.
All this nonsense about Iceland and France residents not being able to participate.....I think is a bit overblown. I think they are just warning us here that the client isn't localized into multiple languages yet, thats all.
Nothing CCP has said gives me the impression they are making an arbitrary list of countries, categorizing them by predominate language, and excluding players who live in a country where a majority speak something other than English.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
755
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:17:00 -
[465] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote: So, this is how I interpret your message: "If your not living in one of the named english speaking _nations_ you won't be allowed in the beta". Otherwise since we EVE players are from all over the world and 90% of us is playing on a english client already, why all that troubles for the beta to be localized? Is it all because of sony/PSN restrictions? Guess so
Localizing simply means that the product has been translated for the predominate language in that region. It doesnt mean that its software-keyed to recognize that you are logging in from a country that may speak something besides English, therefore locking you out because they have a set list of who's in and who's out.
Thus, if you can understand what I am writing now, you will be fine to log in, since you can understand and use the language its localized for at the moment.
They are just saying right now that if when you turn on your PS3, if you're reading everything there in French, German, or Japanese, you're not going to be eligible to download, install, and use the beta client in those languages.
Also, Iceland is an English speaking nation, I'm sure icelandic EvE players with PS3's can participate just fine, unless they're running their PS3's in Icelandic, which I highly doubt. |
Temmu Guerra
Sickle Moon Intrepid Crossing
12
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:02:00 -
[466] - Quote
So does anyone know if ANY beta keys have gone out yet or what the deal is? |
Jessy Valera
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:07:00 -
[467] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Salpun wrote:I think he is saying that if you select Engilish on the PS3 you have access but if you select any other language there will not be any links or access. QFT - If you all can read and write and post in this forum, in this language, you all should be fine to log in and participate in the beta test.All this nonsense about Iceland and France residents not being able to participate.....I think is a bit overblown. I think they are just warning us here that the client isn't localized into multiple languages yet, thats all. Nothing CCP has said gives me the impression they are making an arbitrary list of countries, categorizing them by predominate language, and excluding players who live in a country where a majority speak something other than English.
you can not change the country for the psn store. the region of your psn store is determined by your ip. and your psn account is bound to that region. if you got a german account and move to USA or france or whatever, you will need to create a new psn account and the PSN Store will be in the main language of that region.
That means that noone except someone in an english speaking country will be able to see the DUST 514 beta and will not be able to play it. and thats that. why they chose that way remains unknown... People should be able to chose if they wanna play the DUST 514 beta if its not in their country language but on english.
While Games usually start in the Language you have set on your PS, the PSN store is bound to the country you live in. So for the final release you should be able to play in english if you set your PS to english, but setting it to english will not enable you to join the beta if its just for english speaking countries und your countries main language is something different.
One can just hope, that they will get a clear mind and remove that country restriction for the beta... but personally i dont see it coming :( until then no Dust 514 beta for pretty much most countries |
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
3
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:30:00 -
[468] - Quote
thanks for being so optimistic Hans but.....
Quote:Nothing CCP has said gives me the impression they are making an arbitrary list of countries, categorizing them by predominate language, and excluding players who live in a country where a majority speak something other than English.
...... maybe this?
Quote:With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area
also, I know what is a localized software, but the problem here is not with the localization, rather than with the PSN restrictions, which have been explained right above. So, since the dev has been talking as enigmatically as a shaman but at the same time as misteriously as a well trained politician...... I translate his words as simply as this:
"don't get mad when you non-english speaking ones will not be accepted. And don't say I didn't warn you"
so far, so good. I just hope we will overcome these poor communication syndrome one day and we'll be able to talk about DUST rather than try to interpret CCP's intentions and will |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
756
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:33:00 -
[469] - Quote
Jessy Valera wrote: you can not change the country for the psn store. the region of your psn store is determined by your ip. and your psn account is bound to that region. if you got a german account and move to USA or france or whatever, you will need to create a new psn account and the PSN Store will be in the main language of that region.
That means that noone except someone in an english speaking country will be able to see the DUST 514 beta and will not be able to play it. and thats that. why they chose that way remains unknown... People should be able to chose if they wanna play the DUST 514 beta if its not in their country language but on english.
While Games usually start in the Language you have set on your PS, the PSN store is bound to the country you live in. So for the final release you should be able to play in english if you set your PS to english, but setting it to english will not enable you to join the beta if its just for english speaking countries und your countries main language is something different.
One can just hope, that they will get a clear mind and remove that country restriction for the beta... but personally i dont see it coming :( until then no Dust 514 beta for pretty much most countries
Yeah, I suppose your right, my bad. That is indeed pretty silly, EvE players in iceland may NOT be allowed to play the Dust 514 beta after all..... |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
757
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:38:00 -
[470] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:thanks for being so optimistic Hans but.....
You're absolutely right, I got ahead of myself there and let my wishful thinking cloud judgement and made a hasty retort...
/injects "Patience" skill, trains to level IV
/bumps "Reading Comprehension" to level V to the end of skill queue |
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.10 18:47:00 -
[471] - Quote
well, i found a bit of news...
When logged on the US PS STORE, if you do a search with "dust" you ll see options to buy AUR
Do the same thing on a non-english speaking country and you get.... nothing related to DUST.
............. |
Zeigfryd Omegas
Seraphim Initiative
6
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:30:00 -
[472] - Quote
They only have the English version available right now as their first build. So PSN stores that use english, which aren't every country, ergo the "english as the first language of the country," will be eligible. Every different country has its own PSN store. It wouldn't make sense to have numerous localized versions already since it's at this early phase of consumer interaction, and it also wouldn't make sense to have it available in other countries in english because the majority of people won't be able to access it, this is demonstrated most accurately by the example of releasing a japanese game in North America, with no subtitles/localization, and being okay with it because there is a small japanese speaking population residing there. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:51:00 -
[473] - Quote
Zeigfryd Omegas wrote:They only have the English version available right now as their first build. So PSN stores that use english, which aren't every country, ergo the "english as the first language of the country," will be eligible. Every different country has its own PSN store.
It also wouldn't make sense to have numerous localized versions already since it's at this early phase of consumer interaction, and it also wouldn't make sense to have it available in other countries in english because the majority of people won't be able to access it, this is demonstrated most accurately by the example of releasing a japanese game in North America, with no subtitles/localization, and being okay with it because there is a small japanese speaking population residing there. What some of you are asking for is this very thing. To have an english game, on a Japanese store, because if make exceptions like that, you'll have to do it for all countries, and the ability of the people in the different countries to speak english are varied, and such an unknown that it'll be terribly unwieldy fashion to try to push a beta.
No one is arguing with that... But as far as the information goes, it hasn't been said anywhere that there will be an open beta for all users of the PSN. So, if CCP choose to "select" some players based on definite spec such as "speak english", does it matter if you re french, finnish or japanese ? And, does the fact that a player's natural language is english guarantee he will be a good addition to a beta test ?
Otherwise, In the case of an open beta, it wouldnt really be a problem as you can create a PSN account for the store of any country no matter where you really live. And then DL any content there is on the PS STORE of the selected country.. This is illegal but let's no lie to ourselves, most PS3 users have several account (US, EU, JAP) just to acces say a "demo" that is coming out one day earlier in another country than the one they live in.
We ll see what CCP's plan is for the different beta testing but i m not giving up on this one. i'm waaaay too interested, even invested (funny but true lol) in this coming game :)
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
48
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:05:00 -
[474] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Zeigfryd Omegas wrote:They only have the English version available right now as their first build. So PSN stores that use english, which aren't every country, ergo the "english as the first language of the country," will be eligible. Every different country has its own PSN store.
It also wouldn't make sense to have numerous localized versions already since it's at this early phase of consumer interaction, and it also wouldn't make sense to have it available in other countries in english because the majority of people won't be able to access it, this is demonstrated most accurately by the example of releasing a japanese game in North America, with no subtitles/localization, and being okay with it because there is a small japanese speaking population residing there. What some of you are asking for is this very thing. To have an english game, on a Japanese store, because if make exceptions like that, you'll have to do it for all countries, and the ability of the people in the different countries to speak english are varied, and such an unknown that it'll be terribly unwieldy fashion to try to push a beta. No one is arguing with that... But as far as the information goes, it hasn't been said anywhere that there will be an open beta for all users of the PSN. So, if CCP choose to "select" some players based on definite spec such as "speak english", does it matter if you re french, finnish or japanese ? And, does the fact that a player's natural language is english guarantee he will be a good addition to a beta test ? Otherwise, In the case of an open beta, it wouldnt really be a problem as you can create a PSN account for the store of any country no matter where you really live. And then DL any content there is on the PS STORE of the selected country.. This is illegal but let's no lie to ourselves, most PS3 users have several account (US, EU, JAP) just to acces say a "demo" that is coming out one day earlier in another country than the one they live in. We ll see what CCP's plan is for the different beta testing but i m not giving up on this one. i'm waaaay too interested, even invested (funny but true lol) in this coming game :)
Currently, what matters in Beta is proximity to battle servers. CCP need to do all their initial tests with lowest latency to rule out the possibility of that affecting gameplay.
Expect closest PSN users to hit Beta first. PSN + or otherwise. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony required initial Beta users to be PSN +
Currently the Test server for Battles is set up in CCPs offices in the UK I believe; so that means UK first, then France, Germany, EU, etc.. North America will likely follow, with a server set up here, which will cover continental US initially, then Canada.
Mostly, it's just ranging, and seeing how many servers they'll need and where; but I imagine they'll be testing for required hardware in the game servers to, for best experience and load management. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
757
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:46:00 -
[475] - Quote
Zeigfryd Omegas wrote: It also wouldn't make sense to have numerous localized versions already since it's at this early phase of consumer interaction, and it also wouldn't make sense to have it available in other countries in english because the majority of people won't be able to access it, this is demonstrated most accurately by the example of releasing a japanese game in North America, with no subtitles/localization, and being okay with it because there is a small japanese speaking population residing there. What some of you are asking for is this very thing. To have an english game, on a Japanese store, because if make exceptions like that, you'll have to do it for all countries, and the ability of the people in the different countries to speak english are varied, and such an unknown that it'll be terribly unwieldy fashion to try to push a beta.
This is perhaps the best explanation as to why CCP is being so selective at this stage of the game. Thanks for breaking it down so nicely!
Hunter Cazaderon wrote: Otherwise, In the case of an open beta, it wouldnt really be a problem as you can create a PSN account for the store of any country no matter where you really live. And then DL any content there is on the PS STORE of the selected country.. This is illegal but let's no lie to ourselves, most PS3 users have several account (US, EU, JAP) just to acces say a "demo" that is coming out one day earlier in another country than the one they live in.
This is illegal?? I suppose international trade laws? Really, I know little about all these PSN things...like I said I'm one of the ones who just bought their PS3 in anticipation of this, hence the reason for my noobish optimism about the English-speaking laws to begin with (that and not reading the previous posts carefully enough).
However, IF its true that there's nothing stopping anyone upset about the country restrictions from making a PSN account as an American even if you live in France, well than......not that I would suggest.....but.....you know......
Edit: ok, just noticed that someone already said that the country is determined by your IP address. So even if someone WANTED to break the law and participate anyways, looks like this might not be possible. Like I said, I'm a PS3 guy so I'm only familiar with Xbox live policies and procedures. Maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on whether this *illegal* activity is even physically possible..... |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
5
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:07:00 -
[476] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
Thank you for your interest regarding the DUST 514 MordusGÇÖs Private Trials registration. I would like to take this opportunity to address some of the concerns raised in this thread.
With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
And remember, the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials is still in the registration phase, and that is open to all EVE Online players.
With regards to the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials registration confirmation issue, we will be adding a status page to the EVE Online account management page for those who have signed up to participate in the DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials, so you can keep tabs on the status of your registration.
Thank you for your patience and continued support.
CCP Cmdr Wang
And the DUST 514 Team
Ok it seems this is being muddied up by alot of things, and Im sure this is exactly how Darth Vader felt sometimes so Cmdr Wang let me clarifiy what everyone means to say is.
Tell me the location of you hidden beta keys or I will blow up Alderan.
On a side note something Ive been thinking of with alot of the nay sayers weve had in here. It seems very much like the kind of anger you get if capsuleers really where having theyre monopoly on immoratlity challenged. Just an Interesting lore point thats all.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
212
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:38:00 -
[477] - Quote
Yay. Aussies can play too.
Can I haz beta key noaw?
Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate.
Yay for Flamespar and his wonderful ideas, we should totally elect him for the CSM? .... (kidding ..... maybe) I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:03:00 -
[478] - Quote
Quote: This is illegal?? I suppose international trade laws? Really, I know little about all these PSN things...like I said I'm one of the ones who just bought their PS3 in anticipation of this, hence the reason for my noobish optimism about the English-speaking laws to begin with (that and not reading the previous posts carefully enough). However, IF its true that there's nothing stopping anyone upset about the country restrictions from making a PSN account as an American even if you live in France, well than......not that I would suggest.....but.....you know...... Edit: ok, just noticed that someone already said that the country is determined by your IP address. So even if someone WANTED to break the law and participate anyways, looks like this might not be possible. Like I said, I'm not a PS3 guy so I'm really only familiar with Xbox live policies and procedures. Maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on whether this *illegal* activity is even physically possible.....
Its illegal but doesnt really harm anyone so Sony never did anything about it.
Regarding an IP adress localization, i never heard anything about that. What are you refering to ?
Quote: Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate.
Nicest idea i heard today |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
757
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:18:00 -
[479] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote: Regarding an IP adress localization, i never heard anything about that. What are you refering to ?
This:
Jessy Valera wrote: you can not change the country for the psn store. the region of your psn store is determined by your ip. and your psn account is bound to that region. if you got a german account and move to USA or france or whatever, you will need to create a new psn account and the PSN Store will be in the main language of that region.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
757
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:21:00 -
[480] - Quote
Noroswen wrote: Tell me the location of you hidden beta keys or I will blow up Alderaan.
Now THIS is a new and creative approach to dealing with CCP - harnessing the power of the dark side!!
I can't wait to see if it works, could open up a whole new world for those capsuleers willing to let themselves be consumed by anger and fear..... |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
212
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:31:00 -
[481] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Quote: Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate. Nicest idea i heard today
Despite appearing like a desperate grab for a beta key. Personally I think CCP should get in the habit of rewarding those players who want to work proactively to enhance the future of the EVE project. Even small things, like giving passionate players the opportunity to participate in the Dust beta, goes a long way to helping achieve great outcomes.
Especially when you consider that most people that play a beta treat it like a free demo, and stop playing the moment they encounter a minor bug, whereas most of the people in this thread I reckon would want to work to see the bug removed and would have great advice on how to do it.
Passionate players will talk about weapons balancing, map flow, possible exploits, and look beyond the question of 'how does this benefit me' to 'how does this benefit the larger meta game'.
(Flamespar for CCP CEO .. Yay!)
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
5
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:34:00 -
[482] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Quote: Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate. Nicest idea i heard today Despite appearing like a desperate grab for a beta key. Personally I think CCP should get in the habit of rewarding those players who want to work proactively to enhance the future of the EVE project. Even small things, like giving passionate players the opportunity to participate in the Dust beta, goes a long way to helping achieve great outcomes. Especially when you consider that most people that play a beta treat it like a free demo, and stop playing the moment they encounter a minor bug, whereas most of the people in this thread I reckon would want to work to see the bug removed and would have great advice on how to do it. Passionate players will talk about weapons balancing, map flow, possible exploits, and look beyond the question of 'how does this benefit me' to 'how does this benefit the larger meta game'. (Flamespar for CCP CEO .. Yay!)
I think this is a dangerous line of thought sir, I was not able to participate and if you come between me and my beta key I will kneecap you. V/R Noro
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Vel Jong
Superstringtheory
1
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Posted - 2012.01.11 02:06:00 -
[483] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
213
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Posted - 2012.01.11 03:49:00 -
[484] - Quote
Noroswen wrote:
I think this is a dangerous line of thought sir, I was not able to participate and if you come between me and my beta key I will kneecap you. V/R Noro
Dear CCP, please give Noroswen and Flamespar Beta keys so they can practice kneecapping each other with various weapons. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
129
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:33:00 -
[485] - Quote
Hey what about me? I help run that thing in my signature! Where's my key!
And to answer the questions about anyone getting keys yet, no, not yet. But I will keep tweeting at many CCPers on twitter every day until I have my key. And in one week, I will move into the next phase of my plan for beta key acquisition.
Also, I encourage everyone to keep tweeting at them till they give us more details. MORE. LET THEIR TWITTER FEEDS RUN WILD WITH QUESTIONS! http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Jibaja
StarHunt
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:19:00 -
[486] - Quote
awsome.. finally.. so signed... gotta get a chance to bring out the ole ps3 again.. :D |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 08:30:00 -
[487] - Quote
Quote: you can not change the country for the psn store. the region of your psn store is determined by your ip. and your psn account is bound to that region. if you got a german account and move to USA or france or whatever, you will need to create a new psn account and the PSN Store will be in the main language of that region.
Yes, that's right. You can't change your country on an existing account. But, there is no IP detection when you create a new one.
And, +1000 to the "give key to passionnate people idea"
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
48
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Posted - 2012.01.11 09:02:00 -
[488] - Quote
Honestly, when it comes to Betas, I'm mostly just cannon fodder for the server; I feel that my best role is helping with load balancing when I'm online.
Doesn't mean I won't fill out a bug report when I come across one; though, I do have to recognize it as an actual bug/exploit. Sometimes I'm not too sure about it; as it could be caused by something else in my hardware, GPU, or or OS. Given this is on PS3 though, I think that narrows down the possibilities a lot; which is to say, it won't be so hard to define a bug from an OS glitch.
I'm just glad the Beta test for Windows 7 is finally over ..I hope. :chuckles:
Last Beta I looked at requested testers to fill out something like 400 word reports on everything they came across; which just made me question the sanity of the developers who asked people to do this for free, excepting the bit of fun they might have when everything seems to be working.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:12:00 -
[489] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote: Last Beta I looked at requested testers to fill out something like 400 word reports on everything they came across; which just made me question the sanity of the developers who asked people to do this for free, excepting the bit of fun they might have when everything seems to be working.
Well, that's what a beta is all about. It IS kind of a work for the players in it. Especially in the first stages.
And as i said before, applying to a beta often required to fill in a quite long form to see if you will be of any use to the game.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
761
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Posted - 2012.01.11 16:13:00 -
[490] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Well, that's what a beta is all about. It IS kind of a work for the players in it. Especially in the first stages.
And as i said before, applying to a beta often required to fill in a quite long form to see if you will be of any use to the game.
QFT
And I can only hope that all of those that are begging for a key as soon as possible are also willing to provide the feedback necessary to benefit the game and prepare it for launch. Simply jumping on the list so you can play the game first, without taking the time to give feedback to CCP, will be abusing this privilege no matter how you slice it GÇô dedicated Eve players or not. If everyone whine and demands their way into the beta but doesnGÇÖt contribute to improving the game through bug reporting and feedback, than we wonGÇÖt deserve future first looks and CCO will rightfully seek reactions from those who ARE willing to put the time into the work that is beta testing.
Saying GÇ£IGÇÖm testing the loadGÇ¥ by playing and doing nothing else isnGÇÖt going to help the game much.
I have faith in the EvE community though, I'm sure we'll all do our part. |
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Aothereon
4
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:00:00 -
[491] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
I don't see Serbia there but let's hope that's "English" as well somehow! Vladislav, author of DUST 514 Base |
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
3
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Posted - 2012.01.12 00:50:00 -
[492] - Quote
Max Kolonko wrote:Jon Hellguard wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. /signed -> i'm afraid that awesome extension is going to backfire. eventually the eve players pay the price (or already did) financially. You know there is a huge buzz in PS3 FPS fanbase about this game? Few big clans from MW and BF said they are coming to dust. Soooo, all I'm saying is: dont be so pesimistic about it.
cool. looking forward to it man. i hope that works out for us and ccp - i really do. i just said that i have fear it will or could backfire. |
Miasmic Truth
In Pennae of Mors
0
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Posted - 2012.01.12 14:56:00 -
[493] - Quote
I am buying a PS3 just so I can play this! I am glad they are giving the first round of betas to avid players of eve. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
222
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Posted - 2012.01.13 05:14:00 -
[494] - Quote
Anyone suggest a good game to work on the skills necessary for Dust? I've got MAG and Battlefield 2 at the moment.
I've also got the Lemmings game, which I think will help me train up to lead an alliance. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.13 05:21:00 -
[495] - Quote
Mag and Battlefield will be just fine for training. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.13 08:38:00 -
[496] - Quote
i have the feeling MAG wil be closest to DUST than BF3.
Still no news from CCP regarding the beta.. Hey guys ? we're here ^^
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.13 10:56:00 -
[497] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important.
+1 |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
174
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Posted - 2012.01.13 11:02:00 -
[498] - Quote
Jake Calmelat wrote:Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important.
+1 One of the hampters CCP isstill working on Though CCP_CmdrWang has been tweeting more which is a good sign. |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
104
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Posted - 2012.01.13 11:48:00 -
[499] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:I've also got the Lemmings game, which I think will help me train up to lead an alliance.
i 'd
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Gubah Rakun
PCG Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 13:09:00 -
[500] - Quote
Right, no doubt this post will be ignored and be subsumed beneath a ton of other crap but here's the low-down AFAIK. Information provided by Dev Blogs, E-On and PC Gamer UK
- The only Subscription you will need will be to CCP for EVE Online, for PlayStation you just need to create a free account.
- The game is not on XBox360 because Microsoft require the game to run on a Microsoft-controlled server, DUST will run on the CCP servers (e.g. Tranquility).
- The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate.
- There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE
Thats all for now :) |
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Damien Grimm Muutaras
Seraphim Initiative
1
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Posted - 2012.01.13 13:26:00 -
[501] - Quote
Gubah Rakun wrote:
There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
This part is incorrect. It's already confirmed that orbital bombardment will indeed be done by Eve players, at the request of Dust players. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
763
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Posted - 2012.01.13 15:56:00 -
[502] - Quote
Gubah Rakun wrote:
The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate. There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
They are not trying to keep the games GÇ£separateGÇ¥ GÇô quite the opposite. Both games run simultaneously on the same Tranquility server, the only separation is that on the PC you access space gameplay, and on console you access ground-force gameplay. Corporations, isk, commerce, chat, territorial disputes, these are all common elements to both games. The reason that they are not doing it on the PC is just as you mentioned though - they donGÇÖt want to split off happy paying EvE customers to turn them into Dust players, they would prefer instead that EvE players keep playing EvE and that the Dust 514 crowd is constructed from a new batch of gamers that otherwise wouldnGÇÖt or couldnGÇÖt play EvE. There will be some of us of course that play both.
There most certainly will be orbital bombardments, as well as the reverse GÇô there are ground-based cannons capable of attacking large eve ships. This is something that has been reported by press witnessing working builds of Dust / EvE in action, not pure speculation based on trailers. The HOW exactly isnGÇÖt known, but the IF certainly is.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.01.13 16:04:00 -
[503] - Quote
Gubah Rakun wrote:
There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
Can you point to me the Devblog that says there won't be any orbital strikes ? Cause in two trailers we can see : One orbital strike (from GC 09) and one anti-spatial strike (from E3 11)
Plus, what's the use of having voice channel between DUST and EVE if it has no use in combat situation ? (see latest interview from december)
I dont say you re wrong but if you have something to quote on that i d appreciate. :) |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
6
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:25:00 -
[504] - Quote
Gubah Rakun wrote:Right, no doubt this post will be ignored and be subsumed beneath a ton of other crap but here's the low-down AFAIK. Information provided by Dev Blogs, E-On and PC Gamer UK
- The only Subscription you will need will be to CCP for EVE Online, for PlayStation you just need to create a free account.
- The game is not on XBox360 because Microsoft require the game to run on a Microsoft-controlled server, DUST will run on the CCP servers (e.g. Tranquility).
- The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate.
- There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE
Thats all for now :)
Hunter may want to be polite but Im in no such mood.
1. You will not need an eve subscription for Dust, you just need one to sign up at this stage in the trials
2. Yeah your probrably right on this
3. I have no Idea what CCP wants other than to be a successful business.
4. This is just so wrong I cannot begin to express it. For starters the future of eve movie they made clearly shows they WANT a huge level of interaction, theyve stated Dust players can do industry, shown not only orbital bombardments but Skyfire batteries as well, to top it off they already have Orbital defense items that can be found on battle clinic, are they irrefutable no Im sure the items you can find will not be the end game items you use but the idea is already there and short of them saying we changed our minds about orbital bombardment we can consider this pretty much confirmed. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
54
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:20:00 -
[505] - Quote
As far as I recall, they had Orbital Strike functional back when they released the E3 Trailer. |
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries Pandorum Invictus
185
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Posted - 2012.01.14 10:45:00 -
[506] - Quote
Orbital bombardment?
Much more interested in whether or not I can press a shiny red button and fire a giant beam into space that cuts a Moros in half. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:39:00 -
[507] - Quote
Joshua Aivoras wrote:Orbital bombardment?
Much more interested in whether or not I can press a shiny red button and fire a giant beam into space that cuts a Moros in half.
According to the end of 2011 E3 trailer, i d say it will be available |
Mercy Crow
Black Legion Projects
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 13:52:00 -
[508] - Quote
Aegis Stormborn wrote:I feel like I just went over this a couple pages ago but since you seem to be extra slow we'll cover it again. First, people use PCs for more than FPS games. I think this is where your logic (or lack thereof) steered you wrong. You need to be looking at FPS sales by platform. http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.phpCheck there for video game sales. You will see that the highest performing FPS game on the list is Call of Duty Black Ops. COD Black Ops Sales: Xbox: 13.25 million PS3: 11.23 million PC: 1.32 million Consoles outsold PC by about 18 to 1. Next most successful FPS game would be COD Modern Warfare 2. Those sales figures are as follows: Xbox: 12.67 million PS3: 9.77 million PC: 65 thousand Consoles outsold PC by 34 to 1. This type of sales gap repeats itself with any major FPS title. Anybody that tries to infer CCP is going after a smaller FPS audience by going with a console over PC couldn't be any more incorrect.
Boxed games only no doubt
K since you insist on using that site ok...
http://www.vgchartz.com/hardware_totals.php
Awww no pc's
Ohh well since i was talking about potential sales here 56 ish million ps3's vs 1 billion pc's pick your market SIR...
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ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
2
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Posted - 2012.01.15 05:49:00 -
[509] - Quote
edit out |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
59
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Posted - 2012.01.16 04:28:00 -
[510] - Quote
Have to agree. Using worldwide sales of PCs to make an assessment on platforms most in use, is only correct if you don't consider what software they are using. I know my brother, mother, aunts & uncles(~25?), at least one friend, my employer and his wife, and at least one member of the office staff do not play games on their PCs. That's not including the ~10 Office PCs that are not used to play games.
Actually, aside from one guy at work, I'm the only person I can think of that I know personally, that actually does use a PC for gaming. Outside of 1 Tech at one of the local computer stores; I don't know anyone else, locally, that plays games on PC. |
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Kei Nagase
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.01.16 05:29:00 -
[511] - Quote
So when registering for the MPT, am I supposed to receive a confirmation e-mail? I haven't and it only makes sense that there would be an automatically generated confirmation e-mail sent when signing up.
I also confirmed that my e-mail address is correct. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.01.16 08:23:00 -
[512] - Quote
You wont receive one but they just tweeted their finalizing a status page for MPT. They said it should be accessible through your account management page soon. |
Tizian Enel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.16 10:45:00 -
[513] - Quote
I signed up to MPT and, after pondering it for a while, decided to be honest and said I have no PSN account or whatever it was.
In fact I don't even have a PS3.
Maybe they'll need people just for eveside testing. *hopes* I'll certainly buy the console by summer though. |
Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.01.16 10:52:00 -
[514] - Quote
Just FYI, they recently added an Orbital Siege Cannon module to the game's data files, so it does seem like a reality that we will be able to bombard the **** out of planets. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
769
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Posted - 2012.01.16 11:45:00 -
[515] - Quote
Grarr Dexx wrote:Just FYI, they recently added an Orbital Siege Cannon module to the game's data files, so it does seem like a reality that we will be able to bombard the **** out of planets.
Good thing I finished my Dreadnought skills a couple weeks ago! I'm all ready now. And I can't wait. |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:02:00 -
[516] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:Just FYI, they recently added an Orbital Siege Cannon module to the game's data files, so it does seem like a reality that we will be able to bombard the **** out of planets. Good thing I finished my Dreadnought skills a couple weeks ago! I'm all ready now. And I can't wait.
Good thing I finished tactical weapon reconfig V a couple ways ago |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
770
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:27:00 -
[517] - Quote
Cadinie wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:Just FYI, they recently added an Orbital Siege Cannon module to the game's data files, so it does seem like a reality that we will be able to bombard the **** out of planets. Good thing I finished my Dreadnought skills a couple weeks ago! I'm all ready now. And I can't wait. Good thing I finished tactical weapon reconfig V a couple ways ago
Congrats! I'm not *quite* there yet, but at least now, there's an even better reason than ever to take the time to max it out! Loving the new tech 2 modules. |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.17 04:43:00 -
[518] - Quote
Ya but I wonder how long the dreads will stay as they are. All the dreads besides the moros get about 8~9 K DPS with similar fits while the moros gets comparable range with blasters but gets 12.5 K DPS lol a bit OP but man is it enjoyable being a mini erebus. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.01.17 09:58:00 -
[519] - Quote
Cadinie wrote:Ya but I wonder how long the dreads will stay as they are. All the dreads besides the moros get about 8~9 K DPS with similar fits while the moros gets comparable range with blasters but gets 12.5 K DPS lol a bit OP but man is it enjoyable being a mini erebus.
Aaaaand i understood nothing I really need some more EVE training before DUST comes out. :D Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.17 15:21:00 -
[520] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Cadinie wrote:Ya but I wonder how long the dreads will stay as they are. All the dreads besides the moros get about 8~9 K DPS with similar fits while the moros gets comparable range with blasters but gets 12.5 K DPS lol a bit OP but man is it enjoyable being a mini erebus. Aaaaand i understood nothing I really need some more EVE training before DUST comes out. :D
Basically dread = dreadnaught. With the introduction of t2 siege modules which dreads use to enter a special no movement dose mode, the dreads have recently became unbalanced. 3 of the dreads are fairly on par with damage and range, but the fourth (morose) is about 30 % more powerful and even outdamages titans at the moment. That is why I mentioned how long it may be before they balance it. |
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
775
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:01:00 -
[521] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Cadinie wrote:Ya but I wonder how long the dreads will stay as they are. All the dreads besides the moros get about 8~9 K DPS with similar fits while the moros gets comparable range with blasters but gets 12.5 K DPS lol a bit OP but man is it enjoyable being a mini erebus. Aaaaand i understood nothing I really need some more EVE training before DUST comes out. :D
Don't worry too much. Subcap warfare will always be more fun, and more challenging, than anything involving capital ships. Cadinie was wondering about a possible Moros nerf - which is probably inevitable (even though a blaster Dread SHOULD have the highest DPS of the three, just not by 30%.) However - whether Moros gets the nerfbat or not, it won't affect their usefulness in the end.
The thing to know about capital ships, if you're a new(er) player, is that they are not like subcap ship in terms of obsessing over "teh best" for a situation. You will have fanbois who swear the only carrier you should fly is an Archon, because armor tanking is more common in fleets and the Archon has the best tank. But the bottom line is that in the end - having a capital dropped to support your fleet is such a game-changer anyways that the differences between them only shine in very large fleet situations.
My advice to those contemplating cap ship training - pick the one you want. Not based on stats, just fly what you want to fly. They are big and cool looking and they all work well. When you need a POS dismantled, or a fleet saved by triage reps, in the heat of the moment no one's every going to look at you and say "we need a dread, but not THAT dread" !!
The same will be true for Dust. When you need some Dustbunnies nuked, only a Dread will do. It'd be cool if there different damage types meant different things in terms of ground impact (maybe lazers cause some kind of heat damage or EM interference, while projectiles rock the ground and cause earthquakes) but I sincerely doubt it. My guess is that a nuke is a nuke is a nuke, Eve balancing changes aside. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
775
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:11:00 -
[522] - Quote
I should add, for those that are unfamiliar, that a Dreadnought ONLY works in Siege Mode more or less, meaning they will not be receiving repairs while active and therefore don't have to match tank types with others in the fleet. You can bring whichever you like to a fight. (And Cadiene is right - 30% DPS imbalance wont last long. I still say train for whatever one you like cause either it will get boosted or the Moros will get nerfed. )
Carriers, on the other hand, have an exception to the "cap is a cap" mindset I promoted above - Carriers often work in pairs or more if NOT being brought just to use Triage mode to support a BS fleet, and end up repping each other just like subcapital logistics do. In this case, its best to at least have tank type consistency throughout the fleet if you are using more than one. If your buddies have Archon's and Thanny's, You can bring those or an armored Nidhoggur, don't bring a Chimera.
Now, back to Dust 514 Beta chatter :) Just thought I'd take an educational moment since someone asked. |
JOhnDrees
Deep Axion The G0dfathers
0
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:42:00 -
[523] - Quote
Signed,
Pretty excited about this finally happening. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.01.17 19:28:00 -
[524] - Quote
Hello there. Friend of mine from my team spotted some gameplay vid of DUST514 in the latest "pulse"
see at 2:00 mark on that video
http://us.playstation.com/games-and-media/shows-and-tv-series/pulse/episode/pulse-1-17-edition.html
Loooooks niiiiiiiice
Beta key please gentleman at CCP Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
777
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Posted - 2012.01.17 21:08:00 -
[525] - Quote
Confirming Dust looks BADASS in the gameplay video. |
DragonGrace
Black-Void BLACK-VOID.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.18 00:58:00 -
[526] - Quote
spring release? the beta cant be too far away then :)
CCP, if you give me a beta key, i promise i shall sacrifice spring cleaning for playing DUST514 :) already signed up about 10 days ago and gagging for it :P
regards, Dragon |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
779
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Posted - 2012.01.18 01:05:00 -
[527] - Quote
DragonGrace wrote:spring release? the beta cant be too far away then :)
CCP, if you give me a beta key, i promise i shall sacrifice spring cleaning for playing DUST514 :) already signed up about 10 days ago and gagging for it :P
regards, Dragon
I think there should be a rule that there can be no more tweeting about how fun Dust 514 is from EvE developers playing in their spare time until we all get our beta keys.
Yes? |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.18 03:55:00 -
[528] - Quote
DragonGrace wrote:spring release? the beta cant be too far away then :)
CCP, if you give me a beta key, i promise i shall sacrifice spring cleaning for playing DUST514 :) already signed up about 10 days ago and gagging for it :P
regards, Dragon
Yes it could DragonGrace. The kind of beta that CCP is going to release is pure marketing hype. Real private betas require input from the players through detailed reports which most players will never give. That's why most game devs do most of their testing internally or through non publicly advertised closed betas. |
Cal Gin
The Necromonger
1
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Posted - 2012.01.18 05:24:00 -
[529] - Quote
i project the beta going live around the 24th when the next update goes down.... im thinking that it would be about the perfect time and also it would be nearly a month since the beta sign ups went began.... also assuming that the dev blogs mentioning dust are true and the game will roll straight from beta into the regular game then that means the beta will need to be on TQ from the get go and though they will probably keep eve players from affecting Dust in the beginning there will still need to be updates that allow for the potential for eve players to intervene and its seems to me that the new updates would be a great cover for them |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.01.18 06:51:00 -
[530] - Quote
Cal Gin wrote:i project the beta going live around the 24th when the next update goes down.... im thinking that it would be about the perfect time and also it would be nearly a month since the beta sign ups went began.... also assuming that the dev blogs mentioning dust are true and the game will roll straight from beta into the regular game then that means the beta will need to be on TQ from the get go and though they will probably keep eve players from affecting Dust in the beginning there will still need to be updates that allow for the potential for eve players to intervene and its seems to me that the new updates would be a great cover for them
Somehow I don't see them going live on the 24th. We have already seen a glimpse of the pimped out new planetary UI they have been planning for EVE when dust 514's resource system (whatever it may be) comes along. With no UI in place, no "new resource system" and nothing that can obviously be tied to dust being in sisi right now besides the wtf cannon, I doubt that the next EVE release will coincide with the dust release unless by pure coincidence .
If SISI starts to see odd new things like a revamp in PI or a new planetary menu being greyed out but still there, and when more things start to be seeded in the market involving dust, THAT is when we will know dust is coming. As we have found in the past, CCP is nice enough to actually use sisi as a development platform. We get things on sisi that are far from finished products, and as such, we can get quite the fair warning/heads up for when new major things are coming our way. |
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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
213
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:26:00 -
[531] - Quote
Thread is TLDR sorry
Any news on when recipients will be awarded there keys or has it already happened?
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Magdalena Ionesco
Club a Seal
1
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Posted - 2012.01.18 23:03:00 -
[532] - Quote
Aethan Epple wrote:PlayStation Plus subscribers are generally invited into Betas as a "perk" of membership. Probably the same applies here.
If we've already submitted our private trials application, then subscribe to Plus, can we update our application?
If we've already submitted our private trials application, then subscribe to Plus, can we update our application?[/quote]
Thats going to be ******** if I have to have Plus to be considered for this Beta CCP. I really hope it isn't that dumb, or another dumb CCP decision would be a better way to put it. I would have to buy Plus to play your beta? No thanks. I already see this Dust/Eve symbiotic thing being a fail cascade event shortly after it launches.
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Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 00:37:00 -
[533] - Quote
Magdalena Ionesco wrote:
Thats going to be ******** if I have to have Plus to be considered for this Beta CCP. I really hope it isn't that dumb, or another dumb CCP decision would be a better way to put it. I would have to buy Plus to play your beta? No thanks. I already see this Dust/Eve symbiotic thing being a fail cascade event shortly after it launches.
There is in fact a group of playstation testers outside the playstation plus network, we do get beta's that the playstation plus members don't and usually before them so that the bugs can be ironed out.
Occasionally they recruit through the playstation forums.
Edit: we're the ones with the cool little beta logo's by our names |
Flamespar
Woof Club
229
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Posted - 2012.01.19 04:29:00 -
[534] - Quote
Anyone seen the PI changes on Sisi? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:40:00 -
[535] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:I should add, for those that are unfamiliar, that a Dreadnought ONLY works in Siege Mode more or less, meaning they will not be receiving repairs while active and therefore don't have to match tank types with others in the fleet. You can bring whichever you like to a fight. (And Cadiene is right - 30% DPS imbalance wont last long. I still say train for whatever one you like cause either it will get boosted or the Moros will get nerfed. )
Carriers, on the other hand, have an exception to the "cap is a cap" mindset I promoted above - Carriers often work in pairs or more if NOT being brought just to use Triage mode to support a BS fleet, and end up repping each other just like subcapital logistics do. In this case, its best to at least have tank type consistency throughout the fleet if you are using more than one. If your buddies have Archon's and Thanny's, You can bring those or an armored Nidhoggur, don't bring a Chimera.
Now, back to Dust 514 Beta chatter :) Just thought I'd take an educational moment since someone asked.
thanks for that ^^
Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
DragonGrace
Black-Void BLACK-VOID.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:17:00 -
[536] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:DragonGrace wrote:spring release? the beta cant be too far away then :)
CCP, if you give me a beta key, i promise i shall sacrifice spring cleaning for playing DUST514 :) already signed up about 10 days ago and gagging for it :P
regards, Dragon I think there should be a rule that there can be no more tweeting about how fun Dust 514 is from EvE developers playing in their spare time until we all get our beta keys. Yes?
im not just saying that DUST is gonna be fun. im purely excited about how the already MASSIVE universe that is eve online.....IS GONNA BE BIGGER on a 3 dimensional level. :)
for years i have been waiting for this game....i have always respected developers that dont stay safe. esspecially when they make it work....eventually (what with CCP being someone notoriace for slightly flawed releases)
i cant think of many more devs who create a game....scrap that....a service (which is what this essentially is as its an mmo) and sit there and say "right, cool, we have a great product here.......what missing?" i admire that. other MMO's like WoW for example cash in constantly. little innovation, dated tech...all they do is spawn expansions to top up the wallet. well, i know there is more to it than that of course, but in a nutshell......im not far off.
anyway. WOOOHOOOO!!! lol
but if it bugs you that much, i shall shusht about it :P |
DragonGrace
Black-Void BLACK-VOID.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:22:00 -
[537] - Quote
Cadinie wrote:DragonGrace wrote:spring release? the beta cant be too far away then :)
CCP, if you give me a beta key, i promise i shall sacrifice spring cleaning for playing DUST514 :) already signed up about 10 days ago and gagging for it :P
regards, Dragon Yes it could DragonGrace. The kind of beta that CCP is going to release is pure marketing hype. Real private betas require input from the players through detailed reports which most players will never give. That's why most game devs do most of their testing internally or through non publicly advertised closed betas.
i agree. the fad as of late in gaming marketing strategies is "release delays" and "beta's". in both cases, the game is usually finished. take Gears 3 for example. could they make it even more blatent that they just moved the release window to make sure there was no competition? they even said it was finished before they delayed it...and then released a beta (demo). its abusing the fans i think.
ah, but what can we do? lol i just cant wait for DUST. for a long time ive been filling time waiting for this game to be released. |
arenta Andedare
Phoenix Wake Royal Flush.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.20 06:56:00 -
[538] - Quote
How do I know if I got accepted to the trial?
and who actually got in? |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.01.20 11:11:00 -
[539] - Quote
arenta Andedare wrote:How do I know if I got accepted to the trial?
and who actually got in?
No one can answer that at the moment mate Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Odontempme
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 15:27:00 -
[540] - Quote
as if they didnt make dust 514 for xbox aswell, bcoz im not having 3 consoles just to play a game |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
233
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Posted - 2012.01.22 00:19:00 -
[541] - Quote
Did anyone else notice the mention of a Dust514 newsletter in the recent EVE newsletter? Can't seem to find it on the dust website though.
CCP can I haz explanation (and beta key)? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Spineker
103
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:46:00 -
[542] - Quote
Looks pretty awesome, not sure if it is worth buying a PS3 too bad they didn't release on 360 also! |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.01.23 18:27:00 -
[543] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Looks pretty awesome, not sure if it is worth buying a PS3 too bad they didn't release on 360 also!
Well they intended to release it an Xbox as well.
If i understood properly what happened, it seems that microsoft was reluctant to change some mechanism in the way online game are played. Especially with the system of silver/gold account. And there were also some technical issues on the fact that most of the online architecture will be hosted by CCP.
Anyway, it was more microsoft choice than CCP's. Their loss...
Anyone willing to add or correct something is welcome :) Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
836
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Posted - 2012.01.23 19:34:00 -
[544] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote: Well they intended to release it an Xbox as well.
If i understood properly what happened, it seems that microsoft was reluctant to change some mechanism in the way online game are played. Especially with the system of silver/gold account. And there were also some technical issues on the fact that most of the online architecture will be hosted by CCP.
Anyway, it was more microsoft choice than CCP's. Their loss...
Anyone willing to add or correct something is welcome :)
Microsoft only lets games be hosted on Xbox Live, so CCP couldn't run Dust 514 off Tranquility as its designed.
Microsoft charges for all downloaded content, and requires fees on everything. CCP would not have been allowed to give away free expansions, Microsoft would have made them sell it to us.
CCP made the right move. They stuck to their plans for the game, even if all the console manufacturers didn't get on board.
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Aarri Vishnorzen
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.25 05:10:00 -
[545] - Quote
want in rite meow |
Mr Putter
Generic inc
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 15:30:00 -
[546] - Quote
CCP, any idea as to when beta keys will go out??? Even a, "in the next few weeks, or a few days" will do for an answer! The silence from you about this is very frustrating. |
Aegis Stormborn
Trauma Ward Free Beer.
10
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:01:00 -
[547] - Quote
Mr Putter wrote:CCP, any idea as to when beta keys will go out??? Even a, "in the next few weeks, or a few days" will do for an answer! The silence from you about this is very frustrating.
I could empty quote this all day.... |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.01.26 23:27:00 -
[548] - Quote
Mr Putter wrote:CCP, any idea as to when beta keys will go out??? Even a, "in the next few weeks, or a few days" will do for an answer! The silence from you about this is very frustrating.
i second that ^^ And precisions on the NDA so we can have an idea of how much information we would be able to see come out (or use to write articles in my case) when it's launched. Would you accept the release of articles first presented to you for validation ? I recall it has been done on previous beta testing and would be pretty good i believe to create an active community around the game.
What do you mean i take this too seriously lol ? Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Flamespar
Woof Club
233
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Posted - 2012.01.27 00:11:00 -
[549] - Quote
Mr Putter wrote:CCP, any idea as to when beta keys will go out??? Even a, "in the next few weeks, or a few days" will do for an answer! The silence from you about this is very frustrating.
This is just a continuation of CCPs long tradition of poor communications.
My feeling is that they are waiting until the discussions with Sony over microtransactions have concluded before starting the beta. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
857
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Posted - 2012.01.27 00:43:00 -
[550] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:
This is just a continuation of CCPs long tradition of poor communications.
My feeling is that they are waiting until the discussions with Sony over microtransactions have concluded before starting the beta.
Here's my suspicion. One of the things that recently occured was the recent hiring of a new Chief Marketing Officer, David Reid. His job is to basically oversee the Dust 514 launch from here on out.
As a marketer, he's going to be fiercely picky about CCP's public image, how they communicate, what order things are rolled out in, and what announcements are made to which media outlets, etc.
You're right, the Dust 514 rollout is definitely one of the communication low points since we were spoiled by Crucible. I imagine though that if the new boss is settling it, he's put a temporary halt in plans till he can review them and put his own expertise to work at tweaking the strategy before signing off and moving ahead.
It's in his best interest to try to fire this up as soon as possible - especially now that its his fault if we get too pissed off in the mean time I imagine he'll want to make Hellmar happy and get this circus underway.
But yeah. WHERE ARE OUR BETA KEYS, CCP??? |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
237
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Posted - 2012.01.30 00:47:00 -
[551] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Here's my suspicion. One of the things that recently occured was the recent hiring of a new Chief Marketing Officer, David Reid. His job is to basically oversee the Dust 514 launch from here on out. As a marketer, he's going to be fiercely picky about CCP's public image, how they communicate, what order things are rolled out in, and what announcements are made to which media outlets, etc. You're right, the Dust 514 rollout is definitely one of the communication low points since we were spoiled by Crucible. I imagine though that if the new boss is settling it, he's put a temporary halt in plans till he can review them and put his own expertise to work at tweaking the strategy before signing off and moving ahead. It's in his best interest to try to fire this up as soon as possible - especially now that its his fault if we get too pissed off in the mean time I imagine he'll want to make Hellmar happy and get this circus underway. But yeah. WHERE ARE OUR BETA KEYS, CCP???
It will be interesting to see what sort of marketing campaign David comes up with. I quite liked the 'you're not in Azeroth anymore' approach he took to Rift's launch. I wonder if we'll see a similar tactic, where the marketing campaign directly confronts and dimisses the competition. Perhaps we will see some trailer with a non-dust player talking about how l33t he is due to the large collection of hats he has amassed.
I agree that it's disapointing that we seem to be returning to the communication problems that we are used to (hopefully this is not the case, and it's more due to having to bring the new guy up to speed). I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
863
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Posted - 2012.01.30 05:12:00 -
[552] - Quote
Flamespar wrote: It will be interesting to see what sort of marketing campaign David comes up with. I quite liked the 'you're not in Azeroth anymore' approach he took to Rift's launch. I wonder if we'll see a similar tactic, where the marketing campaign directly confronts and dimisses the competition. Perhaps we will see some trailer with a non-dust player talking about how l33t he is due to the large collection of hats he has amassed.
I agree that it's disapointing that we seem to be returning to the communication problems that we are used to (hopefully this is not the case, and it's more due to having to bring the new guy up to speed).
This is why I'm pretty optimistic about Dust 514 - the fact that it will be more hardcore than the other traditional shooters. Even the "hardcore" titles like Call of Duty will look like child's play in comparison. Dust 514 will gain a reputation for being where the real l337 gamers go and become popular for that reason. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.01.30 08:50:00 -
[553] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: This is why I'm pretty optimistic about Dust 514 - the fact that it will be more hardcore than the other traditional shooters. Even the "hardcore" titles like Call of Duty will look like child's play in comparison.
I hope this is a joke cause i just puked a little. Plain and simple : There's no hardcore FPS on PS3 atm. And if there were to be, it wouldnt be COD.
Any game offering assisted aiming online doesn't deserve to be considered as an FPS imo. Hello, the game is mostly about aiming so what's the point if you're helped on that ?
But yeah, like you i feel Dust could feel a gap. Last gameplay vid had a huge MAG feeling, if CCP was to be influenced, there's no better choice. Founder of-á http:\\Dust514France.blogspot.com |
Flamespar
Woof Club
238
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Posted - 2012.01.30 23:46:00 -
[554] - Quote
Hilmar has been making some interesting posts on twitter. Recently he said D514S153 in response to a question on when the Beta starts. Some have interpreted it to mean that the beta will begin on the 15th of March I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Gahr Vaaushu
silly fruitcake
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 11:38:00 -
[555] - Quote
Sad that it's not being released on PC. Makes me wonder why not? Not sure to what degree DUST is tying in with EVE but the interaction between macro and micro scales in the same universe are interesting indeed. EVE is a long term game that has lived for nearly 9 years? Assume it will live for at least 9 more. What will have become of DUST by then? What will have happened with the PS3? Surely the PS4 must have been released by then? Would be sad to lose this interaction just because DUST wasn't released to the PC where it would've the chance to grow alongside EVE. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
28
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Posted - 2012.01.31 12:15:00 -
[556] - Quote
Theyve said multiple times in interviews that when/if PS4 was released they would simply code a dust client for PS4 that links to the same servers and carry on as normal. |
Gahr Vaaushu
silly fruitcake
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 12:24:00 -
[557] - Quote
Oh :o Should've done some research before I posted maybe >< My prophecy of doom seems less ominous now :( Still, sad to see it for PS3 only as I have no plans on getting one :( |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.01 11:10:00 -
[558] - Quote
Gahr Vaaushu wrote:Oh :o Should've done some research before I posted maybe >< My prophecy of doom seems less ominous now :( Still, sad to see it for PS3 only as I have no plans on getting one :(
Well, stay in your space ship, watch, and if the game is a success you can get a PS4 in a couple of years ^^ Founder of-á[url]http://dust514france.blogspot.com/[/url]
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Hennoch
Ignotis Imperium
0
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:50:00 -
[559] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: This is why I'm pretty optimistic about Dust 514 - the fact that it will be more hardcore than the other traditional shooters. Even the "hardcore" titles like Call of Duty will look like child's play in comparison. Dust 514 will gain a reputation for being where the real l337 gamers go and become popular for that reason.
Hey did You just call COD a HARDCORE fps? You are joking, right? It's a kiddie shooting game aimed at a MASS population. Definitively not a hardcore.
There is virtually no hardcore gamers on a consoles. Ppl that call themselves that, usually spend great deal of money, time and are passionate about gaming to a point they will learn their hardware and software so they can improve experience even by a little bit.
Buying lazy boy and hooking up HDMI to a big TV with basic 1920x1080 resolution is a bare minimum. |
Claire Voyant
92
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:04:00 -
[560] - Quote
Word on the street is that you should check back tomorrow. |
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Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
308
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Posted - 2012.02.03 01:30:00 -
[561] - Quote
Some of you guys really make me chuckle at the elitism concerning PCs vs consoles. "I won't play it unless it's on the PC". Good stand. I guess that gives us people who don't have some really wacky ideas on FPSs and PCs a better chance to get a key. Thanks.
Personally, I played a FPS on PC once...it was an absolutely wretched experience, one that made me swear them off and has been a very easy vow to stick to. If Dust514 was on PC, I would have absolutely no interest in it. For me, a console controller is far more smooth than any keyboard/mouse combo, and there is no need to have a set-up that is overly complicated when it comes to an FPS. There is no need for more than 14-16 buttons anyways when it comes to FPSs. And if you are all about the graphics, then I can't help you. I don't buy games for graphics, I buy them for fun.
Although, I have to admit, Skyrim is absolutely gorgeous on my PS3... To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
238
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Posted - 2012.02.03 02:28:00 -
[562] - Quote
Nephilius wrote:Some of you guys really make me chuckle at the elitism concerning PCs vs consoles. "I won't play it unless it's on the PC". Good stand. I guess that gives us people who don't have some really wacky ideas on FPSs and PCs a better chance to get a key. Thanks.
Personally, I played a FPS on PC once...it was an absolutely wretched experience, one that made me swear them off and has been a very easy vow to stick to. If Dust514 was on PC, I would have absolutely no interest in it. For me, a console controller is far more smooth than any keyboard/mouse combo, and there is no need to have a set-up that is overly complicated when it comes to an FPS. There is no need for more than 14-16 buttons anyways when it comes to FPSs. And if you are all about the graphics, then I can't help you. I don't buy games for graphics, I buy them for fun.
Although, I have to admit, Skyrim is absolutely gorgeous on my PS3...
Not to mention that it is far easier to cheat using hacks in PC FPS games (APB at it's first launch was rife with this) I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Claire Voyant
92
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Posted - 2012.02.03 19:44:00 -
[563] - Quote
Claire Voyant wrote:Word on the street is that you should check back tomorrow. Edit: Best guess is that the page will indeed confirm that you have registered for the trial as promised on January 10. Doesn't mean you are in the Beta though. OK, this is up now. MPT page is still the same, but there will be a little box in the upper right of the main account management page if you are registered. If not, go to the MPT page and spam it again. |
Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.02.03 21:56:00 -
[564] - Quote
I signed up and when I log in I get a little icon above my character list in the mid-upper left that says ">>Dust 514 status: You have signed up!" but nothing else besides the ability to change the signup info.
Claire Voyant wrote:Claire Voyant wrote:Word on the street is that you should check back tomorrow. Edit: Best guess is that the page will indeed confirm that you have registered for the trial as promised on January 10. Doesn't mean you are in the Beta though. OK, this is up now. MPT page is still the same, but there will be a little box in the upper right of the main account management page if you are registered. If not, go to the MPT page and spam it again.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.03 23:44:00 -
[565] - Quote
Regarding that small debate about console players...
I m mainly playing on PS3 now. But i ve spent years on PC FPS, especially CS for more than 5 years hardcore style. And to me, nothing will ever replace my keyboard\mouse combo.
But, came a time where maintaining a PC strong enough to play recent games decently became too much time and money consuming.
And i know a lot of people in the same situation.
So, there's no real hardcore gamers as there are no hardcore games on console... Cod being the ultimate anti-hardcore type of game. Beside MAG, no console FPS made me feel something...
But, a game that would demand a lot more involvement will find its audience. Many people are waiting for a change.
So, stop being so judgemental Wait and see. Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Cadinie
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:20:00 -
[566] - Quote
So the "Status page" was nothing more then a confirmation that you signed up :/ we still have no facking clue how long they are going to blue ball us ehh? |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 11:37:00 -
[567] - Quote
Well there's some news on tweeter ! Goodie !
First : Keyboard\Mouse combo confirmed !
Second : No monthly subscription
Third : A gameplay video is "imminent"
Fourth : First waves into the MPT should start a couple of weeks after the video's release.
Fifht : New batch of devblogs incoming. (been asking him what will be the topic of the next one)
Most of this is from CCP_Jian Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Noah Wyse
Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc The Company LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 13:30:00 -
[568] - Quote
The only thing I did not want to see in this game is happening - seems like mouse/keyboard will be allowed for the game, not only as a means of chat or something similar.
Now, I understand and fully support that mouse/keyboard combo is the best way to go when an FPS is concerned - but not necessarily so on PS3. As Killzone has shown, a joypad experience can be very satisfying and skill-demanding - NOT that it can measure up to the m/k combo in terms of precision as mentioned before - yet it does bear its own satisfaction upon use.
The question is - why put the game on a console, where 99% of people don't use the m/k combo, cutting down the very reason why you came to the said console - in order to present your game to a new community tens of millions of people strong. Seems rather like shooting yourself in the leg to walk better.
Unless this has been vague enough to be misinterpreted. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:52:00 -
[569] - Quote
Noah Wyse wrote:The only thing I did not want to see in this game is happening - seems like mouse/keyboard will be allowed for the game, not only as a means of chat or something similar.
Now, I understand and fully support that mouse/keyboard combo is the best way to go when an FPS is concerned - but not necessarily so on PS3. As Killzone has shown, a joypad experience can be very satisfying and skill-demanding - NOT that it can measure up to the m/k combo in terms of precision as mentioned before - yet it does bear its own satisfaction upon use.
The question is - why put the game on a console, where 99% of people don't use the m/k combo, cutting down the very reason why you came to the said console - in order to present your game to a new community tens of millions of people strong. Seems rather like shooting yourself in the leg to walk better.
Unless this has been vague enough to be misinterpreted.
No, no misinterpretation at all here.
And, many eve fans are going to buy (or already did) a PS3 to play Dust. They'll have the possibility to use their classic KBM combo. In fact you already can play with a Mouse on most games using special controller you can find in retail (AIMON PS for example) But, most PS3 players wont care about it as they are use to the DS3 controller. And, the debate about KBM combo being overpowered vs console controller is obsolete. It depends how the game is programmed, and meant to be played.
Last but not least, if Dust has even a quarter of Eve's management tools, a KBM combo will be veeeeery nice to have.
So, me i see nothing but a will to offer as much possibilities as possible to all players. Thus, it s a good thing. Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Flamespar
Woof Club
242
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Posted - 2012.02.07 23:27:00 -
[570] - Quote
Hunter Cazaderon wrote:[quote=Noah Wyse]The only thing I did not want to see in this game is happening - seems like mouse/keyboard will be allowed for the game, not only as a means of chat or something similar.
Now, I understand and fully support that mouse/keyboard combo is the best way to go when an FPS is concerned - but not necessarily so on PS3. As Killzone has shown, a joypad experience can be very satisfying and skill-demanding - NOT that it can measure up to the m/k combo in terms of precision as mentioned before - yet it does bear its own satisfaction upon use.
The question is - why put the game on a console, where 99% of people don't use the m/k combo, cutting down the very reason why you came to the said console - in order to present your game to a new community tens of millions of people strong. Seems rather like shooting yourself in the leg to walk better.
Unless this has been vague enough to be misinterpreted.
I'm so happy that the mouse and keyboard combo will be supported. Not only because you can use it during a match (which is great). But because I was dreading the possibility of navigating through a market with 1000s of items using a fricken controller I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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DragonGrace
Invictus Mortalitus Paradox Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 21:15:00 -
[571] - Quote
eh, guys?
as awesome as the KBD and MOUSE would be....i dont think it is supported. i know they will let you use a keyboard for text chat.....but it is in no way supporting keyboard and mouse game control.
well...according to the DUST514 dev blog : Tools of the trade.
http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/2041/tools-of-the-trade
read the section headed "Voice / Text Chat" and you will have your answer.
i have to say, making a game for the console, knowing that people want keyboard and mouse, and actually giving them it? on a console? what would be the point in it being on a console. that would somewhat redundant i think. in honesty, i dont really care that its no possible. i only found out recently through rumour (ehem...from the the forums) that it might be possible. the fact that its not (according to the blog) doesnt bother me.
granted, FPS's are better on PC, but come on....its not happening so why would people expect CCP to even consider having the keyboard and mouse to control it? i think some people need to get over the fact and accept that its on PS3. its going to be like nothing you have ever playing on PS3, the experience is going to be like no other shooter (when you take the big picture being EVE and DUST) you have ever played and honestly....its the ideal place to have DUST...on a console. think about it. all the PC people who are the douchbags who think that consoles are for half assed gamers and losers, they should be DAMN HAPPY! CONSOLES GUYS WILL BE DOING THE GRUNT WORK!
thankfully, the rest of us will be happy its on PS3 because they are taking a great console and making it do something new, fresh, innovative and AWESOME!
anyway, back to my point.....according to that dev blog....its controller/move only.
-D.G
P.S if this blog is out of date and there is something im missing here (i try to keep up as best i can) let me know and i will stand corrected :D |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:21:00 -
[572] - Quote
Dragongrace, the annoucement of KB\Mouse being supported was made by CCP_Jian so it's official. And it was already stated in a previous interview in december 11.
"Brandon Laurino @CCP_Jian @EONmagazine and those asking for an "official statement": DUST 514 *will* support keyboard and mouse on PS3"
"Will CCP be making sure the Sharpshooter/Move will be fully competitive with DS3 users?
We are dedicated to making a smooth integration for the SONY Move. But we also want to allow choices for the players. Some may prefer DS3, while others may go with Move and still others might want to use keyboard and mouse. We will be providing more details on this later on."
So, yeah that devblog is out of date. ^^ Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1069
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:58:00 -
[573] - Quote
Cadinie wrote:So the "Status page" was nothing more then a confirmation that you signed up :/ we still have no facking clue how long they are going to blue ball us ehh?
I imagine CCP has already issued the Beta Test keys by now.
I'm tired of checking my email address. I'm also done waiting for some sort of info or Dev response. This thread is just another example of how CCP fails in communication and public relations. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
246
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:06:00 -
[574] - Quote
Actually I'm pretty certain that CCP hasn't sent out any Beta keys. But I agree that their comms is a bit lacking on this. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
246
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:13:00 -
[575] - Quote
Ignore what I just said (except for CCP being crap at communicating).
It seems that private trials have begun http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/interview-with-executive-producer-ccp.html I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.02.10 03:46:00 -
[576] - Quote
Per the article you linked it seems MPT has not yet begun and only internal CCP trials are taking place:
Quote:We would also like to clarify that "trials have already begun" is referred to MPT signups and that beta did not start outside of CCP offices. Nobody still has access to the game except CCP and just some external testing partners and a few selected Friends and Family of CCP. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
246
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Posted - 2012.02.10 04:31:00 -
[577] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Per the article you linked it seems MPT has not yet begun and only internal CCP trials are taking place: Quote:We would also like to clarify that "trials have already begun" is referred to MPT signups and that beta did not start outside of CCP offices. Nobody still has access to the game except CCP and just some external testing partners and a few selected Friends and Family of CCP.
Yeah, the author edited the article to add that after I had posted to clarify.
I find it funny. CCP rep says 'yes, MPT has started' but means 'no, MPT has not started for EVE players'. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
197
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Posted - 2012.02.11 16:12:00 -
[578] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Per the article you linked it seems MPT has not yet begun and only internal CCP trials are taking place: Quote:We would also like to clarify that "trials have already begun" is referred to MPT signups and that beta did not start outside of CCP offices. Nobody still has access to the game except CCP and just some external testing partners and a few selected Friends and Family of CCP. Yeah, the author edited the article to add that after I had posted to clarify. I find it funny. CCP rep says 'yes, MPT has started' but means 'no, MPT has not started for EVE players'.
If MPT had started we would know about it. Even if there was no announcement, which there would be.
Someone on these forums would have spammed general discussion or this thread about it. NDA or no NDA someone would have blabbed by now.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:05:00 -
[579] - Quote
Benilopax wrote:Flamespar wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Per the article you linked it seems MPT has not yet begun and only internal CCP trials are taking place: Quote:We would also like to clarify that "trials have already begun" is referred to MPT signups and that beta did not start outside of CCP offices. Nobody still has access to the game except CCP and just some external testing partners and a few selected Friends and Family of CCP. Yeah, the author edited the article to add that after I had posted to clarify. I find it funny. CCP rep says 'yes, MPT has started' but means 'no, MPT has not started for EVE players'. If MPT had started we would know about it. Even if there was no announcement, which there would be. Someone on these forums would have spammed general discussion or this thread about it. NDA or no NDA someone would have blabbed by now.
Yeah well, i dont really know what to think about that last interview but i'd say it's not started yet. Mainly because the interview was made in January (see the answer regarding a new gameplay vid "early february") and i really dont think MPT could have started then.
Still, it is time now to give us all that so needed Key ^^ Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Flamespar
Woof Club
249
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:08:00 -
[580] - Quote
Benilopax wrote: If MPT had started we would know about it. Even if there was no announcement, which there would be.
Someone on these forums would have spammed general discussion or this thread about it. NDA or no NDA someone would have blabbed by now.
If I had a key, I would totally be letting you all know that I have one and you don't. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.02.13 08:33:00 -
[581] - Quote
Hello there DUST 514 fans,
We know that many of you are hungry for more details and wanting to get more sneak peeks at whatGÇÖs under the hood. We are busily working on many features (some of which were suggested by the player and fan base) that will go a long ways towards making the game great, and we will be more forthcoming on details in the coming weeks.
We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys, so keep an eye out for what will be happening during this yearGÇÖs Fanfest.
Lastly, we would like to thank you for your comments on the forum. Your comments both encouraging and critical have been instrumental during the development process for DUST 514 and we will continue to listen earnestly to your feedback. Thank you.
CCP_CmdrWang
And the DUST 514 Team
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
1845
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:03:00 -
[582] - Quote
WAAAANNG!!!
Thanks for the update. Looks like fanfest will be very interesting this year. |
DJ DrizzCat
New Eden Radio
7
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:13:00 -
[583] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hello there DUST 514 fans,
We know that many of you are hungry for more details and wanting to get more sneak peeks at whatGÇÖs under the hood. We are busily working on many features (some of which were suggested by the player and fan base) that will go a long ways towards making the game great, and we will be more forthcoming on details in the coming weeks.
We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys, so keep an eye out for what will be happening during this yearGÇÖs Fanfest.
Lastly, we would like to thank you for your comments on the forum. Your comments both encouraging and critical have been instrumental during the development process for DUST 514 and we will continue to listen earnestly to your feedback. Thank you.
CCP_CmdrWang
And the DUST 514 Team
This Really should get it's own Thread --- DJ Drizzcat Assistant Manager, New Eden Radio http://www.newedenradio.com |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:15:00 -
[584] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hello there DUST 514 fans,
We know that many of you are hungry for more details and wanting to get more sneak peeks at whatGÇÖs under the hood. We are busily working on many features (some of which were suggested by the player and fan base) that will go a long ways towards making the game great, and we will be more forthcoming on details in the coming weeks.
We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys, so keep an eye out for what will be happening during this yearGÇÖs Fanfest.
Lastly, we would like to thank you for your comments on the forum. Your comments both encouraging and critical have been instrumental during the development process for DUST 514 and we will continue to listen earnestly to your feedback. Thank you.
CCP_CmdrWang
And the DUST 514 Team
Hey Wang, thanks for the update ! ;) Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Gyges Skyeye
Five Taxes Guardians Templar of Draconis
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 18:18:00 -
[585] - Quote
Thank you for an update. Dust 514 channel still needs love in game. |
BRoNCaS
SPACELHAFS
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 20:15:00 -
[586] - Quote
Thanks for update
www.dust514.es |
Karl Planck
131
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Posted - 2012.02.13 21:34:00 -
[587] - Quote
I am so angry i don't have time to go to the first fanfest i can afford >< |
Claire Voyant
92
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:49:00 -
[588] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys . . . So if info on the Beta is coming out at fanfest, who will be playing in the tournament? Are you going to have the CCP employees who have been playing the game for months kick the butts of noobs who are seeing the game for the first time? Will we be watching teams of CCP employees play against each other? Or will it be a giant noobfest as we watch a bunch of people try to find the reload button?
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:17:00 -
[589] - Quote
Claire Voyant wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys . . . So if info on the Beta is coming out at fanfest, who will be playing in the tournament? Are you going to have the CCP employees who have been playing the game for months kick the butts of noobs who are seeing the game for the first time? Will we be watching teams of CCP employees play against each other? Or will it be a giant noobfest as we watch a bunch of people try to find the reload button?
The current plan is to have players register for the tournament and play against each other. We will have tutorials so people can quickly learn how the game is played. There are no plans for a player vs. dev tourney, but I suspect that if we did it would be the players who will be kicking butts. :) DUST 514 Community Manager |
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jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
24
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Posted - 2012.02.15 18:40:00 -
[590] - Quote
Are you guys going to be at PAX East at all? |
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Hideo Kunohara
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 23:44:00 -
[591] - Quote
No PC version, no playing for me.
As much as i have read, and keep reading, i just don't understand the PS3 only decision.
I'm just getting into EVE, and this doesn't seem like a good direction is being taken. |
Mike deVoid
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
6
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Posted - 2012.02.16 02:29:00 -
[592] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Claire Voyant wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys . . . So if info on the Beta is coming out at fanfest, who will be playing in the tournament? Are you going to have the CCP employees who have been playing the game for months kick the butts of noobs who are seeing the game for the first time? Will we be watching teams of CCP employees play against each other? Or will it be a giant noobfest as we watch a bunch of people try to find the reload button? The current plan is to have players register for the tournament and play against each other. We will have tutorials so people can quickly learn how the game is played. There are no plans for a player vs. dev tourney, but I suspect that if we did it would be the players who will be kicking butts. :)
Register before, or at, fanfest? |
Flamespar
Woof Club
255
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Posted - 2012.02.16 02:35:00 -
[593] - Quote
Will players who aren't able to go to fanfest be able to participate in the tournament from home? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.02.16 04:27:00 -
[594] - Quote
Mike deVoid wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Claire Voyant wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We are also making preparations for Fanfest in March this year and will be demonstrating DUST 514 as well as hosting a DUST 514 tournament during Fanfest. And, more importantly, that is also when we will be revealing more information regarding the MPT beta keys . . . So if info on the Beta is coming out at fanfest, who will be playing in the tournament? Are you going to have the CCP employees who have been playing the game for months kick the butts of noobs who are seeing the game for the first time? Will we be watching teams of CCP employees play against each other? Or will it be a giant noobfest as we watch a bunch of people try to find the reload button? The current plan is to have players register for the tournament and play against each other. We will have tutorials so people can quickly learn how the game is played. There are no plans for a player vs. dev tourney, but I suspect that if we did it would be the players who will be kicking butts. :) Register before, or at, fanfest?
The registration for the tournament will be at Fanfest. DUST 514 Community Manager |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.02.16 04:28:00 -
[595] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Will players who aren't able to go to fanfest be able to participate in the tournament from home?
Afraid this will be just for Fanfest for now. DUST 514 Community Manager |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
255
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Posted - 2012.02.16 04:45:00 -
[596] - Quote
Can we bombard players from singularity? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
193
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Posted - 2012.02.16 04:50:00 -
[597] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Can we bombard players from singularity? Stand alone server probably means a stand eve client of two linked in to probably
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Severus Snape's
Only For People Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:53:00 -
[598] - Quote
Is it really to get invite? I have one friend with invite and he even hasn't got PS3! He made it just for "fun". I have PS3 console, but it looks, like CCP stoped to send invites. Is it true? |
Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
208
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:07:00 -
[599] - Quote
Severus Snape's wrote:Is it really to get invite? I have one friend with invite and he even hasn't got PS3! He made it just for "fun". I have PS3 console, but it looks, like CCP stoped to send invites. Is it true?
No invites have been sent yet I believe. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:41:00 -
[600] - Quote
Benilopax wrote:Severus Snape's wrote:Is it really to get invite? I have one friend with invite and he even hasn't got PS3! He made it just for "fun". I have PS3 console, but it looks, like CCP stoped to send invites. Is it true? No invites have been sent yet I believe.
Latest news are indeed that no key were sent atm Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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GalacticRonin
Daimyo Merchanting and Military
0
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Posted - 2012.02.17 07:48:00 -
[601] - Quote
Edit: nevermind, beat to the punch. |
Decimat Draconia
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.17 12:02:00 -
[602] - Quote
Some of these posts sadden me and clearly don't represent the thoughts of all eve players.
The fact that CCP are developing a fps indicates that they have the means to embed the technology into the tranquility server environment, doing so would introduce a number of unknown variables which may detract from the experience of Dust/Eve.
- increased server load and lag - decrease in player base in eve universe - lack of interest towards Dust from new players
CCP are covering all their bases by attracting new players to Eve through Dust. The PS3 is the most powerful 3rd generation console on the market and has seen numbers in excess of the general eve population with some of the successful titles.
I bought a ps2 when they released the network adapter and Socom, and was addicted instantly. The ps3 has been lacking in hard-core titles until last year with the release of Socom 4 and BF3. Dust has a lot of competition if it wishes to succeed.
Add me... Telex |
Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.02.20 17:23:00 -
[603] - Quote
Decimat Draconia wrote:Some of these posts sadden me and clearly don't represent the thoughts of all eve players.
The fact that CCP are developing a fps indicates that they have the means to embed the technology into the tranquility server environment, doing so would introduce a number of unknown variables which may detract from the experience of Dust/Eve.
- increased server load and lag - decrease in player base in eve universe - lack of interest towards Dust from new players
CCP are covering all their bases by attracting new players to Eve through Dust. The PS3 is the most powerful 3rd generation console on the market and has seen numbers in excess of the general eve population with some of the successful titles.
I bought a ps2 when they released the network adapter and Socom, and was addicted instantly. The ps3 has been lacking in hard-core titles until last year with the release of Socom 4 and BF3. Dust has a lot of competition if it wishes to succeed.
Add me... Telex
Agreed. Console only (as microsoft simply denied the offer from CCP as they re simply too gready) makes sense.
By the way, playing Eve gives plenty of intels about DUST 514. I don't have any confirmation but the more i use PI in Eve, the more i feel like it's been created mostly to be a the link between Dust and Eve economics.
I would be more than surprised if PI aren't present in Dust exactly like they are in Eve. Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
79
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:26:00 -
[604] - Quote
I still want the corp pubs and the mini games! |
Seras Victoria Egivand
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
0
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Posted - 2012.02.25 08:30:00 -
[605] - Quote
Acac Sunflyier wrote:I still want the corp pubs and the mini games!
+1 totally! When im not out poding people and soon to be dusting dusters lol id love to be able to do mini games and stuff Please CCp dont forget to finish cough the stations ;P |
StarDeffender
Dead's Prostitutes Important Internet Spaceship League
0
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Posted - 2012.02.28 22:27:00 -
[606] - Quote
No PC No one cares.
Even if you do get it for PC like a year later, or w/e, all the PC users will be in disadvantage from so many points of view (skills, money, power..)...
If it was just another game for XBox or PS I couldnt give a rats furry ballsack but this will affect my eve play.
How many eve players got a console??? How easy would be for those to send isk to the dust char for plex and **** and start training/getting skiils ?
Bottom line is that we either buy consoles or we get left behind.
This is as close to discrimination or slavery as it gets with this industry, without actually been that...
NO PC NO ONE CARES |
thub
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:59:00 -
[607] - Quote
StarDeffender wrote:No PC No one cares.
Even if you do get it for PC like a year later, or w/e, all the PC users will be in disadvantage from so many points of view (skills, money, power..)...
If it was just another game for XBox or PS I couldnt give a rats furry ballsack but this will affect my eve play.
How many eve players got a console??? How easy would be for those to send isk to the dust char for plex and **** and start training/getting skiils ?
Bottom line is that we either buy consoles or we get left behind.
This is as close to discrimination or slavery as it gets with this industry, without actually been that...
NO PC NO ONE CARES
I for one welcome our new dust overlords ....... which will be me.
u mad bro because you don't have a console? hahahahahahaha he mad, simple as that. Get a job, buy a console, and play. |
Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:19:00 -
[608] - Quote
StarDeffender wrote:No PC No one cares.
Even if you do get it for PC like a year later, or w/e, all the PC users will be in disadvantage from so many points of view (skills, money, power..)...
If it was just another game for XBox or PS I couldnt give a rats furry ballsack but this will affect my eve play.
How many eve players got a console??? How easy would be for those to send isk to the dust char for plex and **** and start training/getting skiils ?
Bottom line is that we either buy consoles or we get left behind.
This is as close to discrimination or slavery as it gets with this industry, without actually been that...
NO PC NO ONE CARES
Aren't you overeacting a bit ?
The way i see it, Dust will only affect a limited part of Eve when it's launched. And can you really blame CCP for wanting to grow to a new market ?
And regarding the bankrolling concern from eve players moving to dust and transferring ISK, CCP stated lately that they have counter-measures to prevent that. Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Shang Tsungin
Shirai Ryu
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:24:00 -
[609] - Quote
Quote:
I for one welcome our new dust overlords ....... which will be me.
u mad bro because you don't have a console? hahahahahahaha he mad, simple as that. Get a job, buy a console, and play.
^ This.
Typical console player.
But yea PC release please. So far it looks like another clunky shooter that'll just end up as a poor port on PC years later. C'mon, we've got the better hardware than these consoles ... we always will. We've got a better keyboard layout to map our keys on and ontop of it ... if you scrubs really wanna let people play it with a gamepad then add gamepad support .
Sales? What sales? If you wanted this to impact on the market you should've got of your lazy rear ends on this game years ago. Doing this now just shows you guys ( CCP ) just wanna be a part of the loop and make some dirty money. |
Shang Tsungin
Shirai Ryu
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:32:00 -
[610] - Quote
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Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.03.01 14:47:00 -
[611] - Quote
Shang Tsungin wrote:Quote:
I for one welcome our new dust overlords ....... which will be me.
u mad bro because you don't have a console? hahahahahahaha he mad, simple as that. Get a job, buy a console, and play.
^ This. Typical console player. But yea PC release please. So far it looks like another clunky shooter that'll just end up as a poor port on PC years later. C'mon, we've got the better hardware than these consoles ... we always will. We've got a better keyboard layout to map our keys on and ontop of it ... if you scrubs really wanna let people play it with a gamepad then add gamepad support . Sales? What sales? If you wanted this to impact on the market you should've got of your lazy rear ends on this game years ago. Doing this now just shows you guys ( CCP ) just wanna be a part of the loop and make some dirty money.
Typical PC player... See, i can make dumb affirmation too.
To me, your point of view is, in one word, selfish.
Not everyone can keep a PC up to date at any time. And consoles, as much as you dont like them, did a great job at democratizing videogames and such developping it. They're easy to use, offer the same experience to every players etc..
And then, calling a team of dev lazy when they've been improving eve since its release is a shame. You dont like their work ? Just leave, go play something else on your precious PC.
Sick of those self-righteous whiner. Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Matiel Shrike
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:29:00 -
[612] - Quote
Hey guys, for those that don't know, DUST is likely to be released sometime around when EVE: Inferno comes out. How do i know this? because CCP have stated that Inferno will be focusing on pvp (especially in null) and that just screams DUST integration. I'm probably gonna buy a PS3 for this to be honest :P DUST is almost the perfect game for me, along with EVE. Oh and for those looking for a good read, look up EVE: Templar One. I've been reading it casually for a few weeks and it's brilliantly detailed and very explanatory. |
Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.03.05 13:59:00 -
[613] - Quote
Hey guys !
So DUST 514 will be Free-to-play ! No cover charge and free download ;)
A micro-transaction system to support the game etc..
You ll know more by checking out either :
http://www.dust514-france.fr/2012/03/dust-514-sera-free-to-play.html
or
http://www.dust514base.com/2012/03/dust-514-is-going-to-be-free-to-play.html
So what are your thoughts on that announcement ? Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Noah Wyse
Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc The Company LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 08:18:00 -
[614] - Quote
Well, it's not much of a surprise, it has been "either-or" in the recent announcements. Although I feel that it might have been a better option to put a symbolic price tag on it, which would allow everyone to check out the items, boosters and what not straight away.
For me, the biggest challenge for CCP will be to balance out the controls between mouse/keyboard, gamepad and Move. How they plan to succeed in doing this without nerfing the said m/k too much is beyond me, but I wish them all the best in the endeavor :) |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
232
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Posted - 2012.03.06 19:35:00 -
[615] - Quote
CCP doesn't want my money....i guess i will go play another generic shooter.......o wait no i wont. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Cal Gin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
1
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:25:00 -
[616] - Quote
my goodness are people sill complaining about the no PC thing?.... i mean are you guys just finding out about Dust and are thus newly indignant or have you been upset over a year since its been at least that long since the console exclusivity news was released.... i mean the Console thing has been set in stone for quite a while.... you guys Really no how to beat a dead horse... its been over a year... let it rest in peace.
Edit: What you guys should really be hoping is that CCP would be willing to work with someone like Onlive in addition to PS3, that way you could play DUST and only pay $100 for the hardware to do so as opposed to what you would pay to get a new PS3. That of course probably wont happen but since you guys insist on complaining about things that WON'T be changed you could concentrate on something that has a slightly better chance of succeeding. |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:27:00 -
[617] - Quote
Sell us PS3s for plexes.
...
Yup.
Edit: Also, all I really want to know is will there be localized damage? Headshots, less damage for getting shot in the foot, etc etc.
No headshots means dead in the water MMO unless it REALLY interacts awesomely with Eve. |
Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.03.09 12:04:00 -
[618] - Quote
There will be HS. It's a FPS first ! So precise Hitbox is a must.
I guess you all saw the video from gametrailers. Just in case :
http://www.dust514-france.fr/2012/03/vous-vouliez-du-gameplay-de-dust-514-en.html
And you ll notice that Hilmar announces the beginning of the MPTs on April right after FanFest Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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Shadow Soul
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:07:00 -
[619] - Quote
I thought I replied to this thread earlier, but I guess not! I just came back to Eve at the weekend and that was thanks to recent news about Dust, mainly that it was going to be fully free2play and the latest dev blog about vehicle customization which really surprised me as I didn't think they would be going into quite as much depth. It looks very much like it will be almost as deep as the ship fitting system in Eve.
Personally I'm very glad it's on the PS3 as I'm not sure my laptop would run a PC version that well, and I'm one of those odd people that actually much prefers playing a fps with a joypad than I do a mouse and keyboard. Hopefully though with all the integration with Eve (which really fascinates me and I want to hear more about) it will maybe attract new players into Eve itself. |
Noah Wyse
Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc The Company LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:49:00 -
[620] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e92Wpt7_RV8&feature=related
I am sold, and that on a free game :D
Live demo starts around 8:00, but the REAL THING starts at 21:27. |
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Sragir
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:23:00 -
[621] - Quote
@ CCP CmdrWan
Hello CmdrWang
I've been following Fanfest at home, especially about Dust514 And last year december EVE players were allowed to sign in for the beta release. According to this blog, EVE players, who did sign in, would be drafted to play and test Dust514. So I did sign in as others did.
Closely following the blogs and Fanfest interviews, I learned the this: The persons who have attended the Fanfest ( some of them might not even play EVE at all ) will be invited to play the beta version of Dust514, and in the following months may and june controlled numbers of players will be allowed to enter Dust514
What about us, EVE players, who signed in since december last year, but were not able to attend Fanfest. Do we have to wait till june to even have a chance to get an invite?
Because this looks like CCP is favouring a small group of players who were able to attend the Fanfest in person, and not all the EVE players for the first beta keys
So could you or another Dev tell me this true, or that I'm wrong. |
deart laves
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:57:00 -
[622] - Quote
Had to step up and post something when I seen that all Fanfest attendees will get in in April. What about the rest of us that couldn't make it do to money or time? (In my case it was both) Are we going to have to wait until June? Total elephant dung if this is true. |
Hunter Cazaderon
What The French
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:22:00 -
[623] - Quote
deart laves wrote:Had to step up and post something when I seen that all Fanfest attendees will get in in April. What about the rest of us that couldn't make it do to money or time? (In my case it was both) Are we going to have to wait until June? Total elephant dung if this is true.
From what i understood when they talked about beta during FF, it will work as followed :
=> Early April (no exact date) => People from fanfest will get in. They already got their code.
=> April to June => Several waves of player get in, randomly (i guess) choose among all beta applicants for MPT.
=> After E3 => PS3 users beta .
This is NOT official. Just what i red between the lines.
who knows, maybe Commander Wang could confirm that ^^ Founder of-á www.dust514-france.fr
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ceyriot
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
13
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Posted - 2012.03.31 04:51:00 -
[624] - Quote
do. want. Not Flyinghotpocket's alt. At all. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
122
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Posted - 2012.04.15 06:40:00 -
[625] - Quote
I waited so long for this I've lost interest. I swear, I told you that was an unfortunate side effect of long, drawn out hype about an upcoming event or game. Of course, I might be the only one affected this way. TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster |
Belloche
Revelation Exploration Inc. Without Remorse.
21
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:35:00 -
[626] - Quote
As we approach the FOURTH month of waiting for the beta key, any news yet, CmdrWang? Please? |
Sragir
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 19:59:00 -
[627] - Quote
1 month ago, I've asked CmdrWang or any other dev some questions. None of them even bothered to give a reaction ..........(Great job, creating a blog and not even participate in it)
Meanwhile in another thread the story continues....................................
And reading the whole thread, I can't help to |
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:41:00 -
[628] - Quote
few questioning while turning the clepsydra upside down (once again):
will be dust rolled out during the inferno patch or will it be something indipendent? E3 is from 5th to 7th of June, any chances to know how much after the 'official launch' could we fully interact with dusters? Also, in the future how will the patches be released, in common or separately? Guess the former but you never know |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
493
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:56:00 -
[629] - Quote
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:few questions while turning the clepsydra upside down (once again):
will be dust rolled out during the inferno patch or will it be something indipendent? E3 is from 5th to 7th of June, any chances to know how much after the 'official launch' could we fully interact with dusters? Also, in the future how will the patches be released, in common or separately? Guess the former but you never know Expect it to come out at the same time as the winter expansion. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Jake Maverick
InterSun Freelance Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:34:00 -
[630] - Quote
Viscount Hood wrote:Looks like a good game but I'm not buying a kiddiestation just to play it. Why you insisted it to be PlayStation only is beyound my comprehension.
Because......
A.)They want the people with PC's to be uhm... in their space ships >_>
B.) Dust is supposed to be able to interact with EvE but remain playable even if all of new eden collectively gives it the cold shoulder, and vice versa, but the immersion we are supposed to see, and the interaction between the two that is supposed to make the whole thing so amazing, requires there be people logged in to both. So the people with a PS3 and a ****** PC can play Dust and the people who play EvE but have no PS3 can be in their ships, and this means there will always be people (in theory) in both worlds.
C.) Your ****** PC's cannot even load the CQ and you think it can play THIS?!
D.) Easier for those of us who play EvE and have PS3 to do things like...get in on a ground war and station our own ships in orbit for support?
Would it be cool to have a PC version? **** Yes! Will they lose out on some players by not having it? Maybe.. Who really knows? Can we understand why it was done the way it was done in the end? Probably Will we get a PC version soon(tm) ? never say never :P
Anyway.. def signed up I hope I get in, I love FPS games and need a good reason to blow the(pardon the pun) "Dust" off my PS3 :D |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
361
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:41:00 -
[631] - Quote
So CCP. Feel like giving us some updated info on when non-fanfest attendees can expect to get a beta invite? I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Ahriman Gate
P0RUS Interstellar Shipping and Trading Corp
2
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Posted - 2012.07.07 20:00:00 -
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Just got my son connected with the bonus pack for DUST514. I watched for about 3 hrs last night and was very impressed as was he with the beta version.
He is hooked and sauf "There goes my summer". I am looking forward to any integration that may transpire with EVE and DUST. I can only imagine what has been imagined...
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.07 20:15:00 -
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Yeah, I've been playing the hell out of it and its so great to hear all the shooter fans that have never played EVE come in and talk about how much fun they're having with the game (obvious beta bugs aside). There's a lot of competitive clans that are testing it out and getting their guys ready to storm in once its fully released. I think a lot of people were afraid that it would only be EVE players that were interested enough to bother, but thats not at all what I'm hearing on comms every night. Its certainly captured the attention of the non-EVE shooter crowd... Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Ann Kuvakei
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Posted - 2012.07.07 22:53:00 -
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Dust has the same crap called UI? |
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