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Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:31:00 -
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Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Quote: Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate. Nicest idea i heard today
Despite appearing like a desperate grab for a beta key. Personally I think CCP should get in the habit of rewarding those players who want to work proactively to enhance the future of the EVE project. Even small things, like giving passionate players the opportunity to participate in the Dust beta, goes a long way to helping achieve great outcomes.
Especially when you consider that most people that play a beta treat it like a free demo, and stop playing the moment they encounter a minor bug, whereas most of the people in this thread I reckon would want to work to see the bug removed and would have great advice on how to do it.
Passionate players will talk about weapons balancing, map flow, possible exploits, and look beyond the question of 'how does this benefit me' to 'how does this benefit the larger meta game'.
(Flamespar for CCP CEO .. Yay!)
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
5
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:34:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Hunter Cazaderon wrote:Quote: Everyone who has posted in this thread should get a beta key automatically for being so passionate. Nicest idea i heard today Despite appearing like a desperate grab for a beta key. Personally I think CCP should get in the habit of rewarding those players who want to work proactively to enhance the future of the EVE project. Even small things, like giving passionate players the opportunity to participate in the Dust beta, goes a long way to helping achieve great outcomes. Especially when you consider that most people that play a beta treat it like a free demo, and stop playing the moment they encounter a minor bug, whereas most of the people in this thread I reckon would want to work to see the bug removed and would have great advice on how to do it. Passionate players will talk about weapons balancing, map flow, possible exploits, and look beyond the question of 'how does this benefit me' to 'how does this benefit the larger meta game'. (Flamespar for CCP CEO .. Yay!)
I think this is a dangerous line of thought sir, I was not able to participate and if you come between me and my beta key I will kneecap you. V/R Noro
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Vel Jong
Superstringtheory
1
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Posted - 2012.01.11 02:06:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
213
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Posted - 2012.01.11 03:49:00 -
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Noroswen wrote:
I think this is a dangerous line of thought sir, I was not able to participate and if you come between me and my beta key I will kneecap you. V/R Noro
Dear CCP, please give Noroswen and Flamespar Beta keys so they can practice kneecapping each other with various weapons. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
129
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:33:00 -
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Hey what about me? I help run that thing in my signature! Where's my key!
And to answer the questions about anyone getting keys yet, no, not yet. But I will keep tweeting at many CCPers on twitter every day until I have my key. And in one week, I will move into the next phase of my plan for beta key acquisition.
Also, I encourage everyone to keep tweeting at them till they give us more details. MORE. LET THEIR TWITTER FEEDS RUN WILD WITH QUESTIONS! http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial site for everything DUST 514
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Jibaja
StarHunt
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:19:00 -
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awsome.. finally.. so signed... gotta get a chance to bring out the ole ps3 again.. :D |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 08:30:00 -
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Quote: you can not change the country for the psn store. the region of your psn store is determined by your ip. and your psn account is bound to that region. if you got a german account and move to USA or france or whatever, you will need to create a new psn account and the PSN Store will be in the main language of that region.
Yes, that's right. You can't change your country on an existing account. But, there is no IP detection when you create a new one.
And, +1000 to the "give key to passionnate people idea"
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
48
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Posted - 2012.01.11 09:02:00 -
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Honestly, when it comes to Betas, I'm mostly just cannon fodder for the server; I feel that my best role is helping with load balancing when I'm online.
Doesn't mean I won't fill out a bug report when I come across one; though, I do have to recognize it as an actual bug/exploit. Sometimes I'm not too sure about it; as it could be caused by something else in my hardware, GPU, or or OS. Given this is on PS3 though, I think that narrows down the possibilities a lot; which is to say, it won't be so hard to define a bug from an OS glitch.
I'm just glad the Beta test for Windows 7 is finally over ..I hope. :chuckles:
Last Beta I looked at requested testers to fill out something like 400 word reports on everything they came across; which just made me question the sanity of the developers who asked people to do this for free, excepting the bit of fun they might have when everything seems to be working.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:12:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote: Last Beta I looked at requested testers to fill out something like 400 word reports on everything they came across; which just made me question the sanity of the developers who asked people to do this for free, excepting the bit of fun they might have when everything seems to be working.
Well, that's what a beta is all about. It IS kind of a work for the players in it. Especially in the first stages.
And as i said before, applying to a beta often required to fill in a quite long form to see if you will be of any use to the game.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
761
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Posted - 2012.01.11 16:13:00 -
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Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Well, that's what a beta is all about. It IS kind of a work for the players in it. Especially in the first stages.
And as i said before, applying to a beta often required to fill in a quite long form to see if you will be of any use to the game.
QFT
And I can only hope that all of those that are begging for a key as soon as possible are also willing to provide the feedback necessary to benefit the game and prepare it for launch. Simply jumping on the list so you can play the game first, without taking the time to give feedback to CCP, will be abusing this privilege no matter how you slice it GÇô dedicated Eve players or not. If everyone whine and demands their way into the beta but doesnGÇÖt contribute to improving the game through bug reporting and feedback, than we wonGÇÖt deserve future first looks and CCO will rightfully seek reactions from those who ARE willing to put the time into the work that is beta testing.
Saying GÇ£IGÇÖm testing the loadGÇ¥ by playing and doing nothing else isnGÇÖt going to help the game much.
I have faith in the EvE community though, I'm sure we'll all do our part. |
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Aothereon
4
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:00:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: With regards to the MPT availability, currently it is available In English for English speaking regions. So, if English is the official language in your country, you should be able to access DUST 514 MorduGÇÖs Private Trials from the local PSN store in your area. We are, of course, working on localizing the client so that it becomes available in more regions for the Official Launch. So to recount, the DUST 514 Mordu's Private Trials will be in English only for English speaking regions, and our plan is to have localization for the following languages by Official Launch: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
I don't see Serbia there but let's hope that's "English" as well somehow! Vladislav, author of DUST 514 Base |
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
3
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Posted - 2012.01.12 00:50:00 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:Jon Hellguard wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. /signed -> i'm afraid that awesome extension is going to backfire. eventually the eve players pay the price (or already did) financially. You know there is a huge buzz in PS3 FPS fanbase about this game? Few big clans from MW and BF said they are coming to dust. Soooo, all I'm saying is: dont be so pesimistic about it.
cool. looking forward to it man. i hope that works out for us and ccp - i really do. i just said that i have fear it will or could backfire. |
Miasmic Truth
In Pennae of Mors
0
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Posted - 2012.01.12 14:56:00 -
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I am buying a PS3 just so I can play this! I am glad they are giving the first round of betas to avid players of eve. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2012.01.13 05:14:00 -
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Anyone suggest a good game to work on the skills necessary for Dust? I've got MAG and Battlefield 2 at the moment.
I've also got the Lemmings game, which I think will help me train up to lead an alliance. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.13 05:21:00 -
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Mag and Battlefield will be just fine for training. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.13 08:38:00 -
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i have the feeling MAG wil be closest to DUST than BF3.
Still no news from CCP regarding the beta.. Hey guys ? we're here ^^
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important. |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.13 10:56:00 -
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Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important.
+1 |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
174
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Posted - 2012.01.13 11:02:00 -
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Jake Calmelat wrote:Hunter Cazaderon wrote:
Oh, and when will there be an official forum dedicated to DUST ? That's important.
+1 One of the hampters CCP isstill working on Though CCP_CmdrWang has been tweeting more which is a good sign. |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
104
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Posted - 2012.01.13 11:48:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:I've also got the Lemmings game, which I think will help me train up to lead an alliance.
i 'd
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Gubah Rakun
PCG Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 13:09:00 -
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Right, no doubt this post will be ignored and be subsumed beneath a ton of other crap but here's the low-down AFAIK. Information provided by Dev Blogs, E-On and PC Gamer UK
- The only Subscription you will need will be to CCP for EVE Online, for PlayStation you just need to create a free account.
- The game is not on XBox360 because Microsoft require the game to run on a Microsoft-controlled server, DUST will run on the CCP servers (e.g. Tranquility).
- The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate.
- There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE
Thats all for now :) |
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Damien Grimm Muutaras
Seraphim Initiative
1
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Posted - 2012.01.13 13:26:00 -
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Gubah Rakun wrote:
There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
This part is incorrect. It's already confirmed that orbital bombardment will indeed be done by Eve players, at the request of Dust players. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
763
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Posted - 2012.01.13 15:56:00 -
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Gubah Rakun wrote:
The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate. There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
They are not trying to keep the games GÇ£separateGÇ¥ GÇô quite the opposite. Both games run simultaneously on the same Tranquility server, the only separation is that on the PC you access space gameplay, and on console you access ground-force gameplay. Corporations, isk, commerce, chat, territorial disputes, these are all common elements to both games. The reason that they are not doing it on the PC is just as you mentioned though - they donGÇÖt want to split off happy paying EvE customers to turn them into Dust players, they would prefer instead that EvE players keep playing EvE and that the Dust 514 crowd is constructed from a new batch of gamers that otherwise wouldnGÇÖt or couldnGÇÖt play EvE. There will be some of us of course that play both.
There most certainly will be orbital bombardments, as well as the reverse GÇô there are ground-based cannons capable of attacking large eve ships. This is something that has been reported by press witnessing working builds of Dust / EvE in action, not pure speculation based on trailers. The HOW exactly isnGÇÖt known, but the IF certainly is.
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Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.01.13 16:04:00 -
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Gubah Rakun wrote:
There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE [/list]
Thats all for now :)
Can you point to me the Devblog that says there won't be any orbital strikes ? Cause in two trailers we can see : One orbital strike (from GC 09) and one anti-spatial strike (from E3 11)
Plus, what's the use of having voice channel between DUST and EVE if it has no use in combat situation ? (see latest interview from december)
I dont say you re wrong but if you have something to quote on that i d appreciate. :) |
Noroswen
Imperial Collective
6
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:25:00 -
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Gubah Rakun wrote:Right, no doubt this post will be ignored and be subsumed beneath a ton of other crap but here's the low-down AFAIK. Information provided by Dev Blogs, E-On and PC Gamer UK
- The only Subscription you will need will be to CCP for EVE Online, for PlayStation you just need to create a free account.
- The game is not on XBox360 because Microsoft require the game to run on a Microsoft-controlled server, DUST will run on the CCP servers (e.g. Tranquility).
- The game is not on PC because CCP want PC-players to play EVE and console players to play DUST, they want two to remain separate.
- There will not be Orbital Bombardments from EVE players, CCP want the only interaction between DUST and EVE to be ISK from EVE players going to DUST players & wins/losses on planets in DUST to be reflected in EVE
Thats all for now :)
Hunter may want to be polite but Im in no such mood.
1. You will not need an eve subscription for Dust, you just need one to sign up at this stage in the trials
2. Yeah your probrably right on this
3. I have no Idea what CCP wants other than to be a successful business.
4. This is just so wrong I cannot begin to express it. For starters the future of eve movie they made clearly shows they WANT a huge level of interaction, theyve stated Dust players can do industry, shown not only orbital bombardments but Skyfire batteries as well, to top it off they already have Orbital defense items that can be found on battle clinic, are they irrefutable no Im sure the items you can find will not be the end game items you use but the idea is already there and short of them saying we changed our minds about orbital bombardment we can consider this pretty much confirmed. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
54
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Posted - 2012.01.14 03:20:00 -
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As far as I recall, they had Orbital Strike functional back when they released the E3 Trailer. |
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries Pandorum Invictus
185
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Posted - 2012.01.14 10:45:00 -
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Orbital bombardment?
Much more interested in whether or not I can press a shiny red button and fire a giant beam into space that cuts a Moros in half. |
Hunter Cazaderon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:39:00 -
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Joshua Aivoras wrote:Orbital bombardment?
Much more interested in whether or not I can press a shiny red button and fire a giant beam into space that cuts a Moros in half.
According to the end of 2011 E3 trailer, i d say it will be available |
Mercy Crow
Black Legion Projects
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 13:52:00 -
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Aegis Stormborn wrote:I feel like I just went over this a couple pages ago but since you seem to be extra slow we'll cover it again. First, people use PCs for more than FPS games. I think this is where your logic (or lack thereof) steered you wrong. You need to be looking at FPS sales by platform. http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.phpCheck there for video game sales. You will see that the highest performing FPS game on the list is Call of Duty Black Ops. COD Black Ops Sales: Xbox: 13.25 million PS3: 11.23 million PC: 1.32 million Consoles outsold PC by about 18 to 1. Next most successful FPS game would be COD Modern Warfare 2. Those sales figures are as follows: Xbox: 12.67 million PS3: 9.77 million PC: 65 thousand Consoles outsold PC by 34 to 1. This type of sales gap repeats itself with any major FPS title. Anybody that tries to infer CCP is going after a smaller FPS audience by going with a console over PC couldn't be any more incorrect.
Boxed games only no doubt
K since you insist on using that site ok...
http://www.vgchartz.com/hardware_totals.php
Awww no pc's
Ohh well since i was talking about potential sales here 56 ish million ps3's vs 1 billion pc's pick your market SIR...
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ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
2
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Posted - 2012.01.15 05:49:00 -
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edit out |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
59
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Posted - 2012.01.16 04:28:00 -
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Have to agree. Using worldwide sales of PCs to make an assessment on platforms most in use, is only correct if you don't consider what software they are using. I know my brother, mother, aunts & uncles(~25?), at least one friend, my employer and his wife, and at least one member of the office staff do not play games on their PCs. That's not including the ~10 Office PCs that are not used to play games.
Actually, aside from one guy at work, I'm the only person I can think of that I know personally, that actually does use a PC for gaming. Outside of 1 Tech at one of the local computer stores; I don't know anyone else, locally, that plays games on PC. |
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