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Lord Zuku
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.21 11:10:00 -
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The Naglfar is still unquestionably flawed, twice the training gets you half the tank and missile wait times. When is CCP going to address this issue? Wouldn't crucible have been the time to do it? This has been a hot topic since 08... and also.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.21 11:13:00 -
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well move your camera at 90 percent and you got
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.12.21 12:50:00 -
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.12.21 12:59:00 -
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Its not broken, its Minmatar. Its about bloody time the Minmatar have ship that isn't best at everything. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.21 13:16:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Its not broken, its Minmatar. Its about bloody time the Minmatar have ship that isn't best at everything.
You don't balance subcaps by making caps which suck. Both the Nid and the Nag needed a boost (the Nid got one). I'm all for nerfing Canes but that doesn't mean all their ships are awesome. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.12.21 13:18:00 -
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Cletus Graeme wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Its not broken, its Minmatar. Its about bloody time the Minmatar have ship that isn't best at everything. You don't balance subcaps by making caps which suck. Both the Nid and the Nag needed a boost (the Nid got one). I'm all for nerfing Canes but that doesn't mean all their ships are awesome.
Um, yeah, it's called Eve!
Why else would CCP make and leave such crappy ships in game!
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.12.21 13:35:00 -
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Cletus Graeme wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Its not broken, its Minmatar. Its about bloody time the Minmatar have ship that isn't best at everything. You don't balance subcaps by making caps which suck. Both the Nid and the Nag needed a boost (the Nid got one). I'm all for nerfing Canes but that doesn't mean all their ships are awesome.
Well if you want to discuss like civilised human beings and propose reasonable views you should have said so before. I'd say to you that in addition to this the hell is also from what i hear "a piece of crap" I wouldn't know I don't fly Minmatar.
Although I remember reading a good RP reason why Minmatar designed capitals are not that good compared to the lets say Amarr ones. Their build style and philosophy just don't gel right with basic capital ideas. Unlike the Amarr who have always been good and shooting big lasers with lots of armour slapped on. The minmatar prefer speed and autocannons hit and run tactics which would make their capitals the "worst".
Although an excellent IP reason it might not convince the average player why they are stuck with sub par equipment. Some differences/advantage/disadvantages should be instituted.
I myself would propse a better alignment/speed for the capitals making them better at running away :) or perhaps a greater jumprange which could fit in their design philosophy. Then again I am a purist Amarr slave trading sob, so I don't really follow up on Minmatar wants and needs. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
illirdor
The Grey Eagle Society
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Posted - 2011.12.21 14:05:00 -
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its funny when ppl whine about matar subcap ships being OP they respond with cross training but when it comes to their cap ships then they need a buff.... |
Lord Zuku
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:52:00 -
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illirdor wrote:its funny when ppl whine about matar subcap ships being OP they respond with cross training but when it comes to their cap ships then they need a buff....
If you are implying I cross trained so I could reap the rewards of their sub cap vessels.... then your absolutely right. |
Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:03:00 -
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If the Minmatar are not quite skilled in capital ship design, then why wouldn't their Gallente buddies help compensate for that? The Minmatar capital ships don't have to be unquestionably horrendous, nor do they have to be the best, but leveling out the playing field would be nice to see. If players are saying that they might as well remove Minmatar carriers altogether from the game, there's probably something wrong.
Or...
*Cough.* T2 Carriers? *Cough.* |
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:41:00 -
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OP -- I see your Naglfar, and counter you with a Phoenix. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:03:00 -
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It being
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is actually quite beneficial, you can get more through a cyno before they start bumping,
edit- in response to the OP I think its actually ok at the moment, better than the phoenix at least. It also has the big advantage of capless guns meaning its much further down the neuting list and able to carry on dealing damage even after the bhaals are on it. |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:12:00 -
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All caps are broken now They call that balance |
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