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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.08 20:34:40 -
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Hello Capsuleers
I'm please to announce that Thunderdome is official opening it's doors!
If you're in one of the alliances listed below, and your captain included you on their list of pilots, you will be able to login to Thunderdome using the same username and password (as of today) as you use for the account the character they supplied is on. If they supplied the names of multiple characters on the same account, you'll still only have one account.
- A Band Apart.
- Agony Empire
- Brave Collective
- Curatores Veritatis Alliance
- Exodus.
- FREE GATES COALITION
- League of Unaligned Master Pilots
- Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
- Pandemic Legion
- Phoebe Freeport Republic
- Polarbears.
- Rabble Alliance
- Requiem Eternal
- Red vs Blue
- Shadow Cartel
- Spectre Fleet Alliance
- Templis CALSF
- The Afterlife.
- The Tuskers Co.
- Triumvirate.
- VYDRA RELOLDED
- WE FORM V0LTA
To the captains of the other teams, I recommend that you get your lists in as soon as you can. Make sure you check the email listed on the account your captain character is on, as instructions on how to get your team on the server are there.
A few notes though since the email:
- Characters you nominate must be in your team's alliance. They don't have to be eligible to participate (so yes, you can stick brand new alts in there) but they do have to be in there.
- Steam and Nexon accounts are currently not able to access Thunderdome. Steam accounts can work around this by picking a username to attach to their account in account management. I'm working to come up with a solution to Nexon accounts, but no guarantee I can find one.
- Updates to active accounts from this point will generally happen twice a week, once on Tuesday and once on Friday. This does not include removal of accounts, which will generally be processed as soon as I read your mail.
- Some captains have supplied lists with incorrect character names. Keep in mind that the character names you give must match their name in-game. I'll be reaching out to try to correct these, but it will be quicker if you go over your list and make sure the names are correct.
So, now you ask, how do I get on Thunderdome? At the moment, the process is the following:
- Start up the EVE Launcher, click the E in the top right hand corner and hit settings. Switch the version over to Development, then close the launcher.
- Start the EVE Launcher again using the argument "-x=thunderdome". You can do this either by making a new shortcut pointing to the launcher, or by starting the launcher from the command line.
- Once the launcher has started up, click the E in the top right corner and select "Server List". You should now see Thunderdome listed as an option.
- Once it's finished patching and it's status is ready, hit "Play on Thunderdome".
- Login with your regular account details
You're on, so now what?
A few rules first.
- Only your accounts have been transferred over to Thunderdome. You'll have to create new characters
- You are not required to name your characters, corporations and alliances the same name you have on Tranquility.
- You may not attempt to impersonate someone else's character, corporation or alliance.
- The market is not seeded. Instead, all characters can create items using a slash command: /giveitem [type] [quantity], where type is either the type ID or type name (make sure you use quotes if it's the name). You can create stacks of up to 50,000 items at once. (Yes, I am planning to allow you to spawn multiple items at once in the future, but that's not on the server right now)
- Only published items (other than structures and super-captial ships) can be created with the above command. In addition, you can create the unpublished type "Tournament Practice Unit".
- You are able to cloak your ship at any time using the /shipcloak and uncloak it using the /shipuncloak commands. That includes when you're close to objects and being targeted.
- Non-consensual combat is prohibited. If you do get attacked, I recommend that you just use /shipcloak and moonwalk out (just watch out for smartbombs)
- The moveme bot is active if you get lost (this becomes more important later when the tournament tool is turned on).
At present, the tournament tool is not yet available. I'm writing up a guide on how to use it, and I haven't yet handed out the spectator ships and roles. For now, you should feel free to start skilling up your characters (spawning Skill Injectors is handy for this, but keep in mind you can inject a stack of 10,000 at most at once) and filling out your hanger.
If you find a bug, or something goes wrong, please do not file a bug report. All issues should instead be filed as a ticket in the community team queue, or passed on to your team captain and emailed to me directly.
For now, feel free to jump on the server and start practicing using the Tournament Practice Units to hide your activity.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Rixx Javix
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2016.08.08 20:46:18 -
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What about Mac users? I understand that many of Eves finest pilots use Macs!
http://eveoganda.blogspot.com
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Dancul1001
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.08.08 20:58:22 -
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assuming its up i am getting Invalid username / password
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Gremk
The Red Island Foundation Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:04:31 -
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Dancul1001 wrote:assuming its up i am getting Invalid username / password
No, I don't believe it is yet. We're also getting the same error for our players that are signed up. |
Jose Zampano
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:06:25 -
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Rixx Javix wrote:What about Mac users? I understand that many of Eves finest pilots use Macs!
Blatantly stealing this from an Alliance mate:
MAC USER GUIDE
Andy von Aideron [11:00 PM] GÇï*How to get Thunerdome on OSX*GÇï
0. Turn on development version in Launcher settings (http://puu.sh/qumS0/3eed6bc76e.png) 1. close launcher 2. find and open your Terminal app 3. write ```open -n /Applications/EVE\ Launcher.app --args -x=thunderdome``` 4. hit Enter 5. find a E in your top menu on the right side 6. select Server List 7. select Thunderdome 8. log in GÇï_before_GÇï copying your profiles from other servers (when the login process works) 9. copy your profiles from other servers |
Andy von Aideron
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:09:13 -
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^ Yeah that :D
It should also be noted that when you try to copy your profiles from other servers to Thunderdome, the Launcher app crashes. But when you relaunch it, it creates a folder for your "copied" profile without any actual copied settings. |
Dancul1001
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:16:25 -
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got logged now getting this
http://i.imgur.com/1oBfTUz.png
i prob should just wait an hour or something but im like a crack addict and fiending for this hard |
Dancul1001
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
64
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:19:23 -
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nvm got it |
Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:53:56 -
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Dancul1001 wrote:im like a crack addict and fiending for this hard
OK Mr. Biggums.
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Raynault Aymar
TerminalDogma Rabble Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.08 22:55:11 -
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Incorrect username or password.... Edit: derp, captain forgot to put me on the list... |
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME VYDRA RELOLDED
275
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Posted - 2016.08.09 06:59:01 -
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Will existing characters be transferred to thunderdome at some point?
Asking this to avoid potential name collisions. |
Wanux
Polarized Polarbears.
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Posted - 2016.08.09 07:19:50 -
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Awesome!
Sadly some of our guys are getting "The authentication token provided by the launcher is of an invalid format. Please try again or contact EVE customer support.", any known workarounds for this? |
Ladel Teravada
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.09 08:20:39 -
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Hate to whine, but the lack of buy all, fit all is pretty heartbreaking. Worst thing about AT practice back again.
Will we be able to lock systems with PW ahead to prevent spying? |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME VYDRA RELOLDED
275
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Posted - 2016.08.09 09:24:11 -
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Played around a bit with thunderdome.
Some things:
Neither character nor account (!) settings are transferred. Among other things this means wrecked shortcuts. Have to manually feed it proper core_user and core_character files
No market. Means getting anything, including skillbooks, requires /giveitem. You need about 250 skillbooks. I had a skill list which I turned into a skillbook list which I turned into a /giveitem "skillbook" 1 list and manually copy-pasted it into chat 5 lines at a time (otherwise you risk hitting max character limit). This gave me cancer. Fitting ships will probably give me ebola.
Mass-injecting acquired skillbooks is impossible. Because if even one skill is already injected, whole injection job fails. So have to do it in batches and clean up excessive skillbooks. Inserting a whole skill plan (around 1000 skill levels total) is impossible - you get 50 max skills in queue. Thankfully you can insert the whole plan, train 50 skills, then insert the same plan again and repeat it until you've trained everything. Well, actually until no more skills get inserted. In reality some skills (probably starter?) don't get properly trained, and anything that depends on them either. So have to manually cleanup leftover skills (usually meaning manually training the first skill in a dependency chain and then injecting the plan again).
Overall it took me about an hour to train the newly created character. I think we need a better way to deal with skills.
I think we also need some way to seed the market, because that fitting ebola thing. |
Wanux
Polarized Polarbears.
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Posted - 2016.08.09 09:51:45 -
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Wanux wrote:Awesome!
Sadly some of our guys are getting "The authentication token provided by the launcher is of an invalid format. Please try again or contact EVE customer support.", any known workarounds for this?
Fozzie answered my question on reddit (so basically just follow the damn instructions)
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.09 10:28:00 -
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I've just written a new command that will stick all published skills in your head at level 0, with an option to instead make them level 5. I'm also looking at allowing you to provide a comma separated list for spawning multiple items at once, but I haven't started on that one yet.
Hopefully those two will make things much easier.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.08.09 14:08:46 -
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CCP Logibro, your efforts on this are really appreciated. But maybe it would be easiest to just mirror TQ and seed markets same as sisi?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Colonel Kurtz
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2016.08.09 15:56:59 -
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I beat my captain with a stick until he sent you our list of pilots.
Doing great work Mr Logibro, it's all greatly appreciated! |
Lill Oddleif
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2016.08.09 16:49:10 -
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Soldarius wrote:CCP Logibro, your efforts on this are really appreciated. But maybe it would be easiest to just mirror TQ and seed markets same as sisi?
The nice thing about this is that you can practice your comp ideas against opponents with special edition ships. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.09 16:59:19 -
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Soldarius wrote:CCP Logibro, your efforts on this are really appreciated. But maybe it would be easiest to just mirror TQ and seed markets same as sisi?
I've mentioned previously in other places my reasoning for this, but I'll put it here so it's a little more permanent.
I want to have a little state data commonality with Tranquility to minimize data leakage, and to give all event organizers as clean of a slate to work from. There is a lot of extra data that comes from Tranquility that we don't really need.
While we don't need to mirror to seed the markets, teams in the past have used market data to infer what they're opponents are up to. Allowing you to magic items into existence means they can't do that.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME VYDRA RELOLDED
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Posted - 2016.08.09 18:05:26 -
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Can't we have market seeded on private citadels? I assume currently orders on citadels are only visible for those who have access. Or are there any caveats? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2016.08.09 19:28:07 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Can't we have market seeded on private citadels? I assume currently orders on citadels are only visible for those who have access. Or are there any caveats?
Quote: The market is not seeded. Instead, all characters can create items using a slash command: /giveitem [type] [quantity], where type is either the type ID or type name (make sure you use quotes if it's the name). You can create stacks of up to 50,000 items at once. (Yes, I am planning to allow you to spawn multiple items at once in the future, but that's not on the server right now)
No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.
Woo! CSM XI!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Nika NOisER
Method Synergy VYDRA RELOLDED
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Posted - 2016.08.09 19:48:16 -
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pls fix my account for thunderdome Incorrect username or password. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.09 20:26:27 -
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A new command, /giveallskills has been added. Using it will inject your character with all skills at level 0. Alternatively, you can use /giveallskills super to give your character all skills at level 5.
Additionally, the /giveitem command will now accept a comma separated list of types (either names or IDs, or a mix) surrounded by quotes to spawn multiple types at once. e.g. /giveitem "Raven, Megathron, Tempest, Apocalypse" 200
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.08.09 21:23:05 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.
Clearly you don't understand the absolute pain in the ass that spawning multiple thousand different item types, many of them with horribly obscure names, to fit a complete set of teams is. The multifit tool is amazing for fitting sets of tournament setups and the easiest way to use it by far is to just buy the stuff off the market.
Of course the teams could individually code some sort of program to automatically give you the item ID's and quantities for a particular setup in a list to paste it into the spawn command but it really just seems far more logical to allow the captains to use the seed command. |
Wood Vulcan
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2016.08.09 22:34:07 -
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Bouncing off of what Destoya has said, spawning these thousands of items is very time consuming.
I suppose the work is mostly front loaded. Once a comp is fully spawned and fitted it has the added bonus not being tracked via the market. But I will admit this is frustratingly long work. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.09 23:43:05 -
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Destoya wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.
Clearly you don't understand the absolute pain in the ass that spawning multiple thousand different item types, many of them with horribly obscure names, to fit a complete set of teams is. The multifit tool is amazing for fitting sets of tournament setups and the easiest way to use it by far is to just buy the stuff off the market. Of course the teams could individually code some sort of program to automatically give you the item ID's and quantities for a particular setup in a list to paste it into the spawn command but it really just seems far more logical to allow the captains to use the seed command.
I'm blaming you for my lack of sleep. Hopefully I'll be able to clean up any of the code horrors on the back-end and get this properly tested over the next few days before deploying it to Thunderdome. (Dislaimer: Feature may be shot down before reaching deployment status or be subject to lengthy delays. Have hopes at your own risk)
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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Robbbin Hood
Delusions of Adequacy Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.08.10 06:53:38 -
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Seeing as how it's a bit of a nightmare to generate multiple items manually, I built a tool via Google sheets to make life a little easier. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/135IgbhWCw2OIJ6PeAliHp4Ruzruu0xpQVLICos8EpLs/edit?usp=sharing |
Wanux
Polarized Polarbears.
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Posted - 2016.08.10 07:39:47 -
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CCP Logibro wrote: I'm blaming you for my lack of sleep. Hopefully I'll be able to clean up any of the code horrors on the back-end and get this properly tested over the next few days before deploying it to Thunderdome. (Dislaimer: Feature may be shot down before reaching deployment status or be subject to lengthy delays. Have hopes at your own risk)
This looks awesome, lets hope QA doesn't shoot you down
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.10 15:48:48 -
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Thunderdome will have additional downtime today (2016-08-10) at some time around or before 18:00UTC for the move from VMs to Hardware. No estimate on how long this will take.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro
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