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Freddie Ellecon
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2016.08.04 01:20:36 -
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I made the switch after installing a new hard drive. Everything seems fine other than when I type in any channel my game lags very badly.
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Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
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Posted - 2016.08.12 20:26:39 -
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I'm totally fine with the client running on wine and therefore a big thank you to CCP Snorlax!
However, there ist one thing that does not work correctly:
I use the radial menu very frequently but with wine it does not work: I use my middle mouse button to activate the radial menu and whenever I move my mouse pointer towards one menu item the mouse pointer just wiggles but does not move actually. Something similar happens when I move windows (no matter if they are chat windows, info windows, the overview, or what-have-you): when I move the window slowly it works as expected but when I move the window fast it start to wiggle and jumps around on the client's screen. This was tested with different mice and also with a wacom mouse and stylus on a tablet, which I prefer to play with. Same result in either case.
Any suggestions on that CCP Snorlax?
Thanks and best regards, Tass. o7
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1092
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Posted - 2016.08.13 08:56:16 -
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Tass Caffington wrote:I'm totally fine with the client running on wine and therefore a big thank you to CCP Snorlax!
However, there ist one thing that does not work correctly:
I use the radial menu very frequently but with wine it does not work: I use my middle mouse button to activate the radial menu and whenever I move my mouse pointer towards one menu item the mouse pointer just wiggles but does not move actually. Something similar happens when I move windows (no matter if they are chat windows, info windows, the overview, or what-have-you): when I move the window slowly it works as expected but when I move the window fast it start to wiggle and jumps around on the client's screen. This was tested with different mice and also with a wacom mouse and stylus on a tablet, which I prefer to play with. Same result in either case.
Any suggestions on that CCP Snorlax?
Thanks and best regards, Tass. o7 Sorry, haven't seen this behaviour before. Do you get the same behaviour with holding down the right button to bring up the radial menu?
I'll do a bit of digging, see if can come up with some theories to test.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3901
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Posted - 2016.08.13 13:38:03 -
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Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I do't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions?
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1092
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Posted - 2016.08.13 21:04:23 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I do't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions? Send me a bug report with LogLite logs, I'll look for the smoking gun. Start LogLite from the View menu of the launcher before starting the first account, then save it out after the last one is ready to play. Save the log and attach it to the bug report. Put my name in the title so it gets routed to me right away.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3901
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Posted - 2016.08.14 01:18:34 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I do't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions? Send me a bug report with LogLite logs, I'll look for the smoking gun. Start LogLite from the View menu of the launcher before starting the first account, then save it out after the last one is ready to play. Save the log and attach it to the bug report. Put my name in the title so it gets routed to me right away. Bug report EBR-90600 sent.
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Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
11
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Posted - 2016.08.14 11:28:30 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Tass Caffington wrote:I'm totally fine with the client running on wine and therefore a big thank you to CCP Snorlax!
However, there ist one thing that does not work correctly:
I use the radial menu very frequently but with wine it does not work: I use my middle mouse button to activate the radial menu and whenever I move my mouse pointer towards one menu item the mouse pointer just wiggles but does not move actually. Something similar happens when I move windows (no matter if they are chat windows, info windows, the overview, or what-have-you): when I move the window slowly it works as expected but when I move the window fast it start to wiggle and jumps around on the client's screen. This was tested with different mice and also with a wacom mouse and stylus on a tablet, which I prefer to play with. Same result in either case.
Any suggestions on that CCP Snorlax?
Thanks and best regards, Tass. o7 Sorry, haven't seen this behaviour before. Do you get the same behaviour with holding down the right button to bring up the radial menu? I'll do a bit of digging, see if can come up with some theories to test.
Interestingly, changing the setting from middle mouse button to right mouse button does indeed work as intended! switching back again to middle mouse button does not fix it - with middle mouse button the radial menu isn't working.
btw, I changed the binding under General Settings -> Inflight -> Open Radial Menu With:
best regards, Tass.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1093
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Posted - 2016.08.16 16:17:23 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I do't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions? Send me a bug report with LogLite logs, I'll look for the smoking gun. Start LogLite from the View menu of the launcher before starting the first account, then save it out after the last one is ready to play. Save the log and attach it to the bug report. Put my name in the title so it gets routed to me right away. Bug report EBR-90600 sent. Thanks, got a theory on what's going on but need to do some testing to verify it.
Do you start all clients simultaneously? If so, it might help to wait until the first client is on the character selection screen before starting the next account. If you are already doing that, I'm out of ideas, at least until I've done some more testing.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3903
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Posted - 2016.08.16 20:25:47 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I don't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions? Send me a bug report with LogLite logs, I'll look for the smoking gun. Start LogLite from the View menu of the launcher before starting the first account, then save it out after the last one is ready to play. Save the log and attach it to the bug report. Put my name in the title so it gets routed to me right away. Bug report EBR-90600 sent. Thanks, got a theory on what's going on but need to do some testing to verify it. Do you start all clients simultaneously? If so, it might help to wait until the first client is on the character selection screen before starting the next account. If you are already doing that, I'm out of ideas, at least until I've done some more testing. I start them one by one. If I try to do them all at once, it's a sure lockup. I wait until I see my ship gliding into the bay before returning to the launcher to start the next client. "Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds" means I wait 40 seconds between selecting my character and seeing my ship.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1093
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Posted - 2016.08.16 22:10:12 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Recently, Ive noticed that starting the game has been taking a very long time. I don't know if this is due to the launcher, or Wine taking a long time to get going. Times launching my three accounts:
1st account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 50 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 15 seconds. 2nd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 70 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 30 seconds. 3rd account: Clicking on the account to character selection screen: 125 seconds. Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds.
Total time to launch all three clients, and be able to do stuff: five minutes 30 seconds.
Any suggestions? Send me a bug report with LogLite logs, I'll look for the smoking gun. Start LogLite from the View menu of the launcher before starting the first account, then save it out after the last one is ready to play. Save the log and attach it to the bug report. Put my name in the title so it gets routed to me right away. Bug report EBR-90600 sent. Thanks, got a theory on what's going on but need to do some testing to verify it. Do you start all clients simultaneously? If so, it might help to wait until the first client is on the character selection screen before starting the next account. If you are already doing that, I'm out of ideas, at least until I've done some more testing. I start them one by one. If I try to do them all at once, it's a sure lockup. I wait until I see my ship gliding into the bay before returning to the launcher to start the next client. "Selecting character to being in game: 40 seconds" means I wait 40 seconds between selecting my character and seeing my ship. Alright, thanks for that info.
We have a repro case for the error messages I saw in your logs, and my theory is that they are the key to the issue. We're not seeing the same extreme delay you are experiencing, but that depends on more factors (connection speed, hard disk speed, CPU speed). I'll test some changes to address this internally tomorrow and if that pans out, we'll get a potential fix out to Singularity ASAP and have you test.
I appreciate your patience and your help in tracking down this issue.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3908
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Posted - 2016.08.17 01:56:48 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:.......................
We have a repro case for the error messages I saw in your logs, and my theory is that they are the key to the issue. We're not seeing the same extreme delay you are experiencing, but that depends on more factors (connection speed, hard disk speed, CPU speed). I'll test some changes to address this internally tomorrow and if that pans out, we'll get a potential fix out to Singularity ASAP and have you test.
I appreciate your patience and your help in tracking down this issue.
Think about the GPU. For example: If I minimize each client before starting the next, the start times are the same for all three, and equal to the first one I gave above. Also: Once they are all started, my FPS, ships docked, is 4.0. If I minimize two clients, the remaining one runs at 13 FPS. (All settings as low as they go, except texture, set to medium.)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB
As its a MacBook Pro, I have no option to update the GPU. As its a 17" MBP, I do not wish to upgrade, as Apple does not make 17" MBPs any more.
The minimum specs say 320M, so I'm above the minimum. Maybe you need to take a look why the performance stinks with my GPU.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2016.08.26 12:48:03 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:.......................
We have a repro case for the error messages I saw in your logs, and my theory is that they are the key to the issue. We're not seeing the same extreme delay you are experiencing, but that depends on more factors (connection speed, hard disk speed, CPU speed). I'll test some changes to address this internally tomorrow and if that pans out, we'll get a potential fix out to Singularity ASAP and have you test.
I appreciate your patience and your help in tracking down this issue. Think about the GPU. For example: If I minimize each client before starting the next, the start times are the same for all three, and equal to the first one I gave above. Also: Once they are all started, my FPS, ships docked, is 4.0. If I minimize two clients, the remaining one runs at 13 FPS. (All settings as low as they go, except texture, set to medium.) NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB As its a MacBook Pro, I have no option to update the GPU. As its a 17" MBP, I do not wish to upgrade, as Apple does not make 17" MBPs any more. The minimum specs say 320M, so I'm above the minimum. Maybe you need to take a look why the performance stinks with my GPU. Could you try logging into Singularity, see if this has improved?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3908
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:07:49 -
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Its about the same:
First account: Launcher to character selection: 45 sec. Character selection to in-game: 25 sec. Second account: Launcher to character selection: 75 sec. Character selection to in-game: 35 sec. Third account: Launcher to character selection: 115 sec. Character selection to in-game: 50 sec.
FPS, all docked, all in hangar view: 4.0
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:16:41 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Its about the same:
First account: Launcher to character selection: 45 sec. Character selection to in-game: 25 sec. Second account: Launcher to character selection: 75 sec. Character selection to in-game: 35 sec. Third account: Launcher to character selection: 115 sec. Character selection to in-game: 50 sec.
FPS, all docked, all in hangar view: 4.0 Can you attach updated logs to your bug report?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3908
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:38:55 -
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Log_8_26_16 added as an attachment.
The word "exception" does not appear as often in it, so some things got better. Just not the speed.
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FearlessLittleToaster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:54:38 -
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Snorlax, just wanted to say good job for keeping up on all the Linux issues. I don't even use Linux, I just check the dev posts every couple days and constantly see you working on it. Always encouraging to see a dev fixing stuff and communicating about it often and clearly. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2016.08.26 20:20:13 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Log_8_26_16 added as an attachment.
The word "exception" does not appear as often in it, so some things got better. Just not the speed. Yeah, my fix did get rid of those errors, it seems. I need to analyze those logs further to see what else could be causing this - I was really hoping that those file errors were the main cause.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Alasdair Fearchar
Echelon Research The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2016.08.28 12:29:59 -
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Since I made the switch to wine I've noticed a considerable boost in performance when running one client. However, when I log a second client in, the lag I experience makes the game unplayable. The first logged client simply stutters and has about the same quality I was used to when running multi clients, but the 2nd logged client I can't even hover over icons without a game breaking delay. |
Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.08.30 14:56:57 -
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Will we get window mode? Its currentlly go full screen.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1100
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Posted - 2016.08.30 15:41:27 -
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Astrid Farnsworth wrote:Will we get window mode? Its currentlly go full screen. You can switch to windowed mode in the settings screen, or by pressing Alt-Return. The window is even resizable by dragging on the edges...
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Mei Long
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
0
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Posted - 2016.08.30 18:11:27 -
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I'm unable to right click on anything under WINE without using an external mouse. Under CIDER I could do the standard cmd-click to enter the right-click menus. This makes WINE fairly unplayable in the default mode. Is there some other way to get a right-click without using an external mouse? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1100
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Posted - 2016.08.30 19:15:48 -
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Mei Long wrote:I'm unable to right click on anything under WINE without using an external mouse. Under CIDER I could do the standard cmd-click to enter the right-click menus. This makes WINE fairly unplayable in the default mode. Is there some other way to get a right-click without using an external mouse? Does cmd-click not work for you? If not, make sure you have the latest non-dev Wine version selected in the launcher Preferences.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3912
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Posted - 2016.08.30 19:41:16 -
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Mei Long wrote:I'm unable to right click on anything under WINE without using an external mouse. Under CIDER I could do the standard cmd-click to enter the right-click menus. This makes WINE fairly unplayable in the default mode. Is there some other way to get a right-click without using an external mouse? I assume you are using a trackpad? The two finger click does the secondary click. You can enable it in your trackpad preferences.
But.. command click is supposed to work too.
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Mei Long
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
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Posted - 2016.08.30 19:46:50 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Mei Long wrote:I'm unable to right click on anything under WINE without using an external mouse. Under CIDER I could do the standard cmd-click to enter the right-click menus. This makes WINE fairly unplayable in the default mode. Is there some other way to get a right-click without using an external mouse? Does cmd-click not work for you? If not, make sure you have the latest non-dev Wine version selected in the launcher Preferences.
It does not. However, someone gave me the tip to turn on "Emulate three button mouse" in XQuartz. After doing that, I'm able cmd-click. |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
392
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Posted - 2016.08.30 20:40:06 -
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DX11 support???? |
Zolmaz Vol'Jin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:41:57 -
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I don't know if its related or not, but since I was forced to update to Wine this morning, I noticed my kill mark on my Skiff is missing. I submitted a bug report |
Wondertoon
Pavillon Rouge Opera Mundi
0
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Posted - 2016.09.01 20:49:35 -
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I just launched Eve today and found out it forced me on wine. It came with a lot of graphical issues (like shimmering effect on stargate / ship propulsion completely messed up, many UI settings reset, etc.) Looking at the monitor, "Wine" and "Wine server" are using much more resources than previous Cider, and the computer has become slow as **** out of the game when running. What the hell ?
How to revert? back to Cider please ?? |
Zolmaz Vol'Jin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.09.01 22:44:04 -
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Wondertoon wrote:I just launched Eve today and found out it forced me on wine. It came with a few graphical issues (like shimmering effect on stargate / ship propulsion completely messed up, many UI settings reset, etc.) Looking at the monitor, "Wine" and "Wine server" are using more resources than previous Cider, and the computer has become slow as **** out of the game when running. What the hell ?
How to revert? back to Cider please ??
edit : also, when asking my drones to return to drone bay, they come back, but the drone UI continue to show them in space -_-
Just found out if you go to "Eve Launcher" > "Preferences" you can change the wrapper back to Cider, though i'm sure that option won't last long
Edit: Found that by reverting back to Cider that my kill marks now show again on my Skiff |
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
6
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Posted - 2016.09.02 03:59:05 -
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I had the same problem. "Cider is now deprecated". CCP Snorlax knows that Wine does not work for me. I guess he wants me to quit playing EVE. If "deprecated" becomes "removed", that's exactly what I will do. This new "free to play" option does not interest me at all. |
Bodaaa
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.09.02 14:27:43 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Wanttaebolt wrote:Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help? Do you have a Retina display?
Hi CCP Snorlax!
A few of us would love to switch and experience the performance boosts, but are holding of due to retina resolution issues.
Is there anything we could do to have native resolution in Wine?
Thank you! |
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