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Atticus Fynch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:21:00 -
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When the new character creator came about, there was a sudden change in the "image" of the individual EVE races. That change being, they all look the same (except maybe amarr who came out pretty good). Lacking are race specific clothing and race specific accessories....which there are currently none becuase the powers that be felt they could just port WoD into EVE and no one would be the wiser. We look more like Blade Runnerish cyberpunks with bad tattoos than residents of New Eden.
I hope someday EVE will return to those days instead of making us all look like WoD clones (minus the vampire theme) which basically is what happened with the new character creator. |
ASadOldGit
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:34:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:... they all look the same... Clearly you haven't seen "Large Collidable Object" or "Ladie Harlot" - they don't look anything like the rest of us... My container is NOT imploding! It's just a bit upset that it only sees cheap crap. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
157
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:34:00 -
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Amarr Victor |
Atticus Fynch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:38:00 -
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Truth of the matter is the more time that lapses, the less likely people will remember the old toons and become more accustomed to what we look like now. |
Sadayiel
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
20
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:41:00 -
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i miss my Old Battlegear (yes civire had a kind of metallic breastplate) and those pesky tech implants.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
22
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:45:00 -
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The races all look pretty distinct to me, and the character creator does allow extremes similar to what the old one had for the creative and motivated if you really want a Sebiestor that looks like a scary troll or Nosferatu, but I agree that I would like to see some more ethnic clothing and hairstyles for some of the bloodlines, like the Intaki need their cool samurai ponytails and flowing robes, Gallente need some choices that show a bit more skin, and everyone needs some hats.
As far as Blade Runner, I guess you may not realize that film has always been a huge influence on the devs.. it's been mentioned in the dev blogs before. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:20:00 -
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My alt (Minmatar Vherokior) looks about the same, plus a fancy jacket.
There was no way I could make this guy (Minmatar Sebiestor) look a malnourished 3rd-world space refugee, so I got as close as I could and figured he'd probably been eating better now that he's not an Amarr slave anymore and no self-respecting space pirate will go without shades and a wannabe-evil-Spock-beard. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2122
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:37:00 -
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Agreed. While some of that loss is from the character models being less toon:y and thus don't allow for the dame wide (bordering on silly) variety we had before. However, the loss in moving from outlandish and sci-fi deciration and apparel to the current batch of high-street 2010 reject fashion is much more detrimental.
We had some excellent (if quirky, but unique) designs that gave characters a very specific look. It would be nice to have that uniqueness return. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1246
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:42:00 -
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I really want my old face back
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
353
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:43:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:When the new character creator came about, there was a sudden change in the "image" of the individual EVE races. That change being, they all look the same (except maybe amarr who came out pretty good)..
Why thank you, as the chosen race it is not that difficult to look awesome still its nice to get noticed. We do look rather good.
I agree with you, although not 100% the current Char creator is very impressive but what it needs is more Racial distinction in terms of clothing and cultural/tribal tatoos, scarring, hair and clothing, etc.
CCP did some excellent work for that when they starting working on ambulation, I wonder where it all went... - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
121
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:58:00 -
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I used the old comic look and plexi-glass helmets for a few years and I have no desire to go back there. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:11:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I really want my old face back
I happened across a screenie of my old face .. and boy oh boy was I horrible. I definitely dont want my old face back. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:16:00 -
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I like how i look. But i like my old "face" too. |
Acoustio
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:25:00 -
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"Players with old avatar appearances (Post-Incursion) are no longer forced to create a new character and can now have their old appearance returned to them by contacting the GM's via the petition system under the GÇÿCharacter Creation & PortraitsGÇÖ category."
Was in the crucible 1.02 #1 server side patch notes. No idea if it works after making a new appearance... |
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
26
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:27:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:When the new character creator came about, there was a sudden change in the "image" of the individual EVE races. That change being, they all look the same (except maybe amarr who came out pretty good). Lacking are race specific clothing and race specific accessories....which there are currently none becuase the powers that be felt they could just port WoD into EVE and no one would be the wiser. We look more like Blade Runnerish cyberpunks with bad tattoos than residents of New Eden.
I hope someday EVE will return to those days instead of making us all look like WoD clones (minus the vampire theme) which basically is what happened with the new character creator. I don't think all races/characters look the same. There is a lot of distinction but few players seem to use all the options they have or liek to create the typical "supermodel" face. But I agree that race specific clothing is missing and I would like to have more more options for that. What we have is very boring right now (including the NeX stuff). There should be more science fiction elements to our clothing. |
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
92
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:30:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:When the new character creator came about, there was a sudden change in the "image" of the individual EVE races. That change being, they all look the same (except maybe amarr who came out pretty good).. Why thank you, as the chosen race it is not that difficult to look awesome still its nice to get noticed. We do look rather good. I agree with you, although not 100% the current Char creator is very impressive but what it needs is more Racial distinction in terms of clothing and cultural/tribal tatoos, scarring, hair and clothing, etc. CCP did some excellent work for that when they starting working on ambulation, I wonder where it all went... All the work is still there but with avatars being on the backburner for the time being and the focus being on spaceships, things in this area will happen slowly.
But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp.
For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one.
I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback.
PS - I'm so much cooler now than I was before CCP Xhagen | CSM Project Manager |
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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
599
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:31:00 -
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You're experiencing nostalgia. Deal with it. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:31:00 -
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All humans look the same: two eyes, ears, one nose and mouth wtf?
I blame The Creator. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Liam Mirren
36
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:31:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:...it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one.
The avatars, while being high fidelity and all that, are bland and boring. For the most part they look like generic glossy barbie dolls and it takes heaps of effort to avoid that (I think I did decently with mine). They simply lack the aesthetics of EVE of old, like they gave the job to someone who didn't know about EVE and couldn't be bothered to dig into it's history and design language. Trying to reuse your efforts for two of your products can make good sense as long as it's under the hood, actually making them LOOK same ish is a big nono.
There's several things at work here;
- some people chose a specific race/bloodline because of the looks and with the changes they had no control over are suddenly forced to deal with possibly crappy looks or at least ones they didn't bargain for. If you're going to do something as drastic as a full avatar change either make all bloodlines aesthetically correct (I'd like that best) or give people the option to switch. I bet there's tons of older characters, from before the changes, who feel robbed of their identity and are annoyed by how their previous choices mess up their current options.
- Sebiestor especially got the shaft, I mean look at them, check out Chribba for instance, wtf is THAT. That has no resemblance to the old Sebiestor who were mad, quirky and insane looking. The current ones just look like they haven't seen the sun in a while.
- Gallente males, seriously
- more hair style options and redo most of the current ones. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
235
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:45:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:
But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp.
For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one.
I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback.
Best statement I have read today. Italics are mine for emphasis. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
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Jace Errata
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries The Ambivalent
46
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:48:00 -
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I personally prefer the new characters to what I've seen of the old ones...but I would like the ability to add cyber-widgets to my face. Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
355
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:52:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:CCP Xhagen wrote:
But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp.
For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one.
I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback.
Best statement I have read today. Italics are mine for emphasis.
Agreed on both counts.
And while I agree space ships vital for eve, continued development on all fronts should be encouraged. If you included avatars and Incarna in the sandbox to begin with a lot of bother could have been unbothered. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
204
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:59:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp. For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one. I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback. PS - I'm so much cooler now than I was before
We want options that look like they are not from the current time period, but actually scifi, and we also want some of the cultural distinctions between the races back. I would actually prefer them not being race specific in the sense, that only certain races can access them, but rather have race specific clothing sets. Like/inspired by the old amarr dress with antlers or flashy gallente dresses with see through plastic pieces. Those things look more EVE than almost anything you've managed to do with the new system so far. The new avatars look better, but the actual art style has become bland and boring in the clothing area.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
96
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:05:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp. All I want is my old hair back: [img]http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/Character/101287868_256.jpg[/img]
And my alt wants her plastic doohickery back: [img]http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/Character/470836792_256.jpg[/img]
But yes, in general the new character creator is a vast, vast improvement, except in that it is not letting us recreate what the old one gave us. In my case, I think my new face is a "just plain better" version of the old one; less cartoony, but still essentially the same. But the character creator doesn't have the old hairstyles? Only crappy new ones? And for other players that applies to their entire look.
(also more color variety, my new alt is more or less color coordinated like the old one, but in a different shade of blue because I can't say "make her hair/eyes/lipstick/clothes this specific color" when there is no reason I can think of that I shouldn't be able to) [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
26
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:05:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:We want options that look like they are not from the current time period, but actually scifi, and we also want some of the cultural distinctions between the races back. I would actually prefer them not being race specific in the sense, that only certain races can access them, but rather have race specific clothing sets. Like/inspired by the old amarr dress with antlers or flashy gallente dresses with see through plastic pieces. Those things look more EVE than almost anything you've managed to do with the new system so far. The new avatars look better, but the actual art style has become bland and boring in the clothing area. Yeah, those dresses were nice
Please, remodel them with the new technology or do something similar. I would even pay AUR for them |
Theodemir
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
9
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:09:00 -
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The lack of distinction is noticeable, at least give the Khanid people their visors and metallic helmets [of sorts] and the caldari civic (sp) race their armour back. Also the current robe selection I find lacking... it needs more flare, more fanatical zealotry! |
Roime
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
61
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:15:00 -
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I find the new creator absolutely amazing. It offers nearly endless possibilities for creativity, and the results look both distinctive and realistic -unlike the old one, where all portraits were similar and very computer-gamey.
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Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:18:00 -
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I'm a slave child and perfectly happy with my looks, the portrait is exactly what I visioned.
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
277
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:31:00 -
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No. There will be no downgrading for the stupids.
Fly Safe, Die Hard As stated by a fellow player, Mara Rinn, "EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust."-á
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Valei Khurelem
Viziam Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:38:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:When the new character creator came about, there was a sudden change in the "image" of the individual EVE races. That change being, they all look the same (except maybe amarr who came out pretty good).. Why thank you, as the chosen race it is not that difficult to look awesome still its nice to get noticed. We do look rather good. I agree with you, although not 100% the current Char creator is very impressive but what it needs is more Racial distinction in terms of clothing and cultural/tribal tatoos, scarring, hair and clothing, etc. CCP did some excellent work for that when they starting working on ambulation, I wonder where it all went... All the work is still there but with avatars being on the backburner for the time being and the focus being on spaceships, things in this area will happen slowly. But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp. For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one. I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback. PS - I'm so much cooler now than I was before
I'll just leave this here for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qiVH0fO_us
LONG LIVE SWG!
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