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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Milena Marich on 02/03/2007 19:50:48 After recent BoD scandal there is another one... CCP GM is leader of major alliance. LV Alliance Leader Enslaver is freaking GM.
More info and details here: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=363
Oh yes I am allowed to post here even if I am not corp member and please check my employment history and bio before you accuse me of something stupid.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:05:00 -
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Oh good lord apart from being in the wrong god damn forum, STOP BELEIVING EVERYTHING THIS kugutsumen posts ffs!!!!!!! Please for all our sanitys grow a brain! 
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:13:00 -
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Then PLEASE explain to me what is wrong there? Why was Enslaver character banned by CCP?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:31:00 -
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Technically he resigned as a leader of LV before CCP hired him 

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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Milena Marich Then PLEASE explain to me what is wrong there? Why was Enslaver character banned by CCP?
Okay mate im going to be frank with you, if enslaver is a GM he can still play without cheating how do you know he was banned is there a giant 'BANNED' image on his bio or something? But all you guys seem to be praising kutgusman like a god when in fact he is a criminal who is ****ed at CCP for banning his accounts, he is a child with a inferiority complex and does not need to be encouraged. Please stop spreading his crap on these forums as it will just end badly for everyone. If their is cheating in the game CCP will deal with it. Just let it go and play the damn game. 
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:43:00 -
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Thanks for response R0ot, however I must note that CCP is not dealing with issues until it comes to that point that they MUST. That point is now visible to public only because Kutugsman made it available.
You are only concerned about Kutugsman; not a single observation regarding BoD and LV scandals and that makes me believe that your interest is at stake now. Is it because your alliance depends from BoD and LV and if they lose, you will lose everything in EVE?
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:44:00 -
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Get the F*CK lost. This dude just alleges everything to have you nutheads hanging on his lips. one good deed doesnt redeem a life of wickednessV
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.02 20:58:00 -
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I've got a clue for you, my dumbass litte friend. Enslaver's practically vanished since december. He hasn't killed a ship since his employment began. Got any smart comments now?
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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VCBeeArsenic
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1 Get the F*CK lost. This dude just alleges everything to have you nutheads hanging on his lips. one good deed doesnt redeem a life of wickednessV
Funny you keep denying it, considering CCP just admitted that Enslaver was is a gm. Doesn't mean he cheated, I just find it funny that LV accused the goons of being devs.
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Red Gabba
RennTech The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:12:00 -
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Not the forum for it but perhaps you should read this before posting any more
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kharakan I've got a clue for you, my dumbass litte friend. Enslaver's practically vanished since december. He hasn't killed a ship since his employment began. Got any smart comments now?
Kharakan I do not see why you have to communicate thru insults? If correct, you are making good point however killing a ship is not the only thing that GM can do for his alliance. The right question would be: tWas he still active in LV in January or February?v Good info may be much more valuable than another soldier in your ranks like for example that tlittle advicev regarding changes that will affect T2 market.
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Milena Marich
Originally by: Kharakan I've got a clue for you, my dumbass litte friend. Enslaver's practically vanished since december. He hasn't killed a ship since his employment began. Got any smart comments now?
Kharakan I do not see why you have to communicate thru insults? If correct, you are making good point however killing a ship is not the only thing that GM can do for his alliance. The right question would be: tWas he still active in LV in January or February?v Good info may be much more valuable than another soldier in your ranks like for example that tlittle advicev regarding changes that will affect T2 market.
I apologize for snapping at you earlier. This whole kugutsumen affair is wearing on my nerves. The thing is, according to various reports he practically vanished from LV in the days before his employment. People thought he'd quit or something.
Also, he can't really materialistically (is that a word? =S) help LV - GM actions are tracked, and probably even more carefully so now. As for the 'advice' thing - he's a GM, and while not 100% on this I don't think GM's are going to be quite as clued-up on upcoming changes as devs. 'course, I'm not completely certain there.
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:44:00 -
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Kharakan and all (interested in truth and facts) please listen this:
http://www.kugutsumen.com/static/enslaver.mp3
It is 10 minutes only. Did he just rename his main? 
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.02 21:47:00 -
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Haven't listened to it yet (will do so tomorrow, am somewhat knackered right now) but I do know that The Enslaver is still a character in game, under that name.
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.02 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Milena Marich Edited by: Milena Marich on 02/03/2007 19:50:48 After recent BoD scandal there is another one... CCP GM is leader of major alliance. LV Alliance Leader Enslaver is freaking GM.
More info and details here: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=363
Oh yes I am allowed to post here even if I am not corp member and please check my employment history and bio before you accuse me of something stupid.
This must be a lie, everyone knows GMs and Devs are only in BoB.
So Enslaver's a GM, and a damn good one so what? Are you insane enough to condemn him for his actions? I doubt many who play EVE would give up so much willingly if they got a job as a GM/Dev, and tbfh, I see no problem with it.
So Enslaver's a GM, a damn good one apparently, and had stepped down from a position of authority prior to taking the job, where is the scandal in that? Is the scandal that a member of CCP plays EVE? OMG THE SKY IS FALLING.
Seriously, what the hell? I hope Enslaver gets renamed and doesn't have to lose his character just because some criminal with a bruised ego doesn't like that CCP won't let him blackmail them.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Xade
Caldari K.T.P
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Posted - 2007.03.02 22:21:00 -
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tbh i don't see the issue here.
If Enslaver is now a GM he should know what is at stake if he breaks the rules and abuses his powers. To my knowledge GM's are allowed to play eve and i know that the Devs have accounts in game because they have said they do on many occasions.
The only outcome of this post is you have now revealed that Enslaver is a possible GM which isn't fair to the account holder who would have otherwise kept his identity a secret so he could keep his character.
GM'S AND DEVS PLAY EvE GET OVER IT - your only Complaining because you don't know the ones in your alliance.
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Kadarin
Wolfenrecon
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Posted - 2007.03.02 23:09:00 -
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IMO this is really only an issue if he had insider information as to upcoming changes, and advised friendlies on how to proceed. Secondly, as a GM, his game character should not be involved in a leadership position within LV (or any major alliance). Lastly, as a titan pilot, he has a potentially huge impact on the game, so he would probably need to give that up.
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Liang Nuren
AEGIS LEGION
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Posted - 2007.03.02 23:43:00 -
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Honestly, I'm really glad the GM's and dev's play Eve. It keeps them in touch with the game. When the devs/GM's stop playing a game, it becomes merely a "job" to them, even more than it already is. When that happens, the game will truly go downhill.
Move along, there is nothing useful here.
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.03.03 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kadarin IMO this is really only an issue if he had insider information as to upcoming changes, and advised friendlies on how to proceed. Secondly, as a GM, his game character should not be involved in a leadership position within LV (or any major alliance). Lastly, as a titan pilot, he has a potentially huge impact on the game, so he would probably need to give that up.
EXACTLY my thoughts.
Noone wants to play a rigged game ... unless certain individuals enjoy playing a rigged game? But then if you do why not play it solo on your PC?
You keep forgetting that CCP would NEVER have apologized or disclosed anything about T20 or the others if the playerbase hadn't caught them in the act red-handed.
I don't really care about the specifics of t20, this new GM, or the other devs/GMs that broke/are breaking the rules and what tools are used to discover their transgressions... These are incidents that just indicate a broken system. I'm more interested to know how these transgressions are going to be handled and THAT they will be handled to prevent them from recurring.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Milena Marich
You keep forgetting that CCP would NEVER have apologized or disclosed anything about T20 or the others if the playerbase hadn't caught them in the act red-handed.
Im sorry you got your alternate universe viewer where? 
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