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Vasavia
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.12.27 18:03:00 -
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Laktos wrote:Sometimes me and deepee get drunk and he puts on his wifes underwear and we snuggle. Not a pretty sight when sober though believe me.
Actually. It depends on whose perspective your talking about. I for one find it very *intriguing*
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Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.12.28 04:31:00 -
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VIP Ares wrote:Oh man, seriously, last time we tried to stay longer in Molden Heath we had to evacuate - not becasue your anti pirate coalition drove us away - but because we got bored to death with little or no action. Please stop telling fearie tales BTW, can you help clean Aring and Ami systems in next few days?
bored because no one wanted to fight your silly bait-and-blob bullshit more than once~ coming to the small gang heaven that is molden heath with an army is ******** |
Xylorn Hasher
Mean Corp Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.12.28 08:53:00 -
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jasondamien Severasse wrote:Aye, we need to ban together, And focus on our common enemy, and not quibble over unimportant things, When we fight amongst ourselves they have already won....All pirates should understand that age old tactic of divide and conquer, which the anti - pir's seem to be doing all to well....So i say let us focus our rage on those so deserving of it, the time has come for us to raise our black flags and begin to slit throats ( quote from H.L. Mencken ) and take back what is ours...EVERYTHING .......
I truly support that idea. We have to stop doing pirate canibalism and focus on making from Helgatild wasteland. ( It's EM fags homeland )
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Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.12.28 10:27:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:I truly support that idea. We have to stop doing pirate canibalism and focus on making from Helgatild wasteland. ( It's EM fags homeland ) Actually, EM homeland is Pator. Good luck with that. What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
Firebolt145
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2011.12.28 11:53:00 -
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Wow 10 pages, really?! |
Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
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Posted - 2011.12.28 18:53:00 -
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Hello All,
This has been a fun thread to read.
I have no idea who Magik Flame is, but I appreciate the effort he put into this thread.
As the founder and diplomat of the actual Coalition of Anti-Pirates (www.coalitionofantipirates.com), allow me to share a few thoughts with you.
To begin with, a big shout out to Lady Spank, whose moral support I have cherished over the years.
I would also like to honestly acknowledge that anti-piracy has not been quite so effortless as Magik portrays it to be. It is true that we have successfully suppressed pirate threats in Metropolis and Heimatar low sec. But this has not always been easy, and we've taken our fair share of losses. More when the pirates panic and call in 40+ super caps from null sec (see our home page for an example).
In the main though, the major pirate groups have all fallen before us, and now run, pos up or dock when we are about. Negative Ten, Mean, The Chupas, Tempest Legion, Black Rebel Rifters, The Obsidian Front, Moira, Darklings, and so on. Much of course depends on the time of day, and where our fleets are located. Minmatar low sec is not safe, and it never will be. Still, it is much safer than it used to be.
We do appreciate the good fights that we have had with pirates. As we expand our network and operations, we look forward to more in the coming years.
Cheers, Del
Delilah Wild Diplomat, COA |
Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:15:00 -
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Delilah Wild wrote:Hello All,
This has been a fun thread to read.
I have no idea who Magik Flame is, but I appreciate the effort he put into this thread.
As the founder and diplomat of the actual Coalition of Anti-Pirates (www.coalitionofantipirates.com), allow me to share a few thoughts with you.
To begin with, a big shout out to Lady Spank, whose moral support I have cherished over the years.
I would also like to honestly acknowledge that anti-piracy has not been quite so effortless as Magik portrays it to be. It is true that we have successfully suppressed pirate threats in Metropolis and Heimatar low sec. But this has not always been easy, and we've taken our fair share of losses. More when the pirates panic and call in 40+ super caps from null sec (see our home page for an example).
In the main though, the major pirate groups have all fallen before us, and now run, pos up or dock when we are about. Negative Ten, Mean, The Chupas, Tempest Legion, Black Rebel Rifters, The Obsidian Front, Moira, Darklings, and so on. Much of course depends on the time of day, and where our fleets are located. Minmatar low sec is not safe, and it never will be. Still, it is much safer than it used to be.
We do appreciate the good fights that we have had with pirates. As we expand our network and operations, we look forward to more in the coming years.
Cheers, Del
Delilah Wild Diplomat, COA
We never ran from you, unless you call not engaging 10+ fleets with 2 or 3 frigs running. We left because of little things, the Mothra. guys camping Ezsur-Hofjal 23,5/7 mostly (making it hard to move to Amamake area for fights) and not being able to get small engagements, which you know a rifter corp is all about. Also I don't think moira. consider themselves pirates. Anyways believe it or not anti-pirates had nothing to do with it, there's plenty of those in Molden Heath too.
And the primary pirate force in that area BSI seem to still be plenty active there and around Akkio, so you seem quite unable to dislodge people flying similar hardware to yourself.
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Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:37:00 -
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Kaeda, please don't be offended.
I'm making a collective generalization and not singling out BRR. Indeed, we quite enjoyed pvping with you folks. You were worthy prey, very skilled, honoured 1vs1 (which I suspect you won majority of), and COA was sorry to see you leave the area.
Its true there are still pirate groups for us to focus more attention on, like BSI, as well as an uptick in activity in MH. This will make for some future fun, I'm sure.
With all due respect, Del |
Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.12.29 12:50:00 -
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I'm not offended, unless you hurt my rl cats I'm pretty much impossible to offend ^_^
Just the high and mighty tone of your original post annoys me somewhat, what you and -EM- and some others do is seek safety in numbers, which is admittedly a successful strategy if non of the 'hostile' entities can field similar numbers or superior hardware. But please don't be offended either that the only anti-pirates that seem actually 'good' from looking at battle reports in any engagement of size (with equal numbers/hardware) is -EM- with Altean Fc'ing.
Now a frigate corporation like r1fta can dodge larger fleets fairly easily (a couple undock bookmarks go a long way) but upper metro is pipe and losing anything bigger then a frig to BSI camping Ardar, Mothra camping Eszur and anti pirates often camping the pipe upto Eifer loses it's attraction fairly fast. It's not 'fun'.
Personally I'm not to bothered but we have a lot of newer players to whom losing ships is still an economic issue, and while camps may work well, losing a ship without even a chance to respond is really just frustrating. There's some irony in it that 'pirates' (weird word I make my ISK running trade and industry in lowsec much like a lot of anti-pies I imagine) that don't actually camp find that their game play frustrated by the alleged 'good guys' using fast-locking gate camps to do so...
Anyways back to the topic of this massive troll thread; Piracy is as alive as ever in Metro/Heimater/Molden Heath. And if E-UNI stopped blobbing they might actually get some good fights in the Hagilur pocket. Last time I brought 10 Rifters in they responded with 15 or so cruisers and battle cruisers including a pilgrim and a 2 ecm ships, so yeah E-UNI don't be to surprised that we haven't come back in a while. |
Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:04:00 -
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Also it's 'Black Rebel Rifter Club' or BRRC what's with the BRR business c'mon! |
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:23:00 -
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GÖÑ (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) GÖÑ Inactive 21/12 unltil the new year, seasons greetings GÖÑ |
Jones Bones
Brutor Bike Co.
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Posted - 2011.12.30 18:53:00 -
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Delilah Wild wrote: It is true that we have successfully suppressed pirate threats in Metropolis and Heimatar low sec.
Amamake and its surrounding systems remain hotbeds of pirate activity. I, a simple merchant of 2 wheeled transportation devices, would love to hear your explanation for this.
Suppressed? These heathen mauraders scare the fine denizens of New Eden away from my neighborhood on a daily basis. How is a small businessman such as myself supposed to survive in such conditions?
Suppressed indeed!
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.30 20:15:00 -
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Maybe if you didn't sell evil bicycles you would get more customers. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.12.30 21:52:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Maybe if you didn't sell evil bicycles you would get more customers.
Update your blog Spank, jeebus. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.30 21:57:00 -
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I've been at the parents for christmas, nothing spacey to update on... although I made 5 bill while unsubbed in that time :P (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
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Posted - 2011.12.31 11:49:00 -
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Jones Bones wrote:Delilah Wild wrote: It is true that we have successfully suppressed pirate threats in Metropolis and Heimatar low sec. Amamake and its surrounding systems remain hotbeds of pirate activity. I, a simple merchant of 2 wheeled transportation devices, would love to hear your explanation for this. Suppressed? These heathen mauraders scare the fine denizens of New Eden away from my neighborhood on a daily basis. How is a small businessman such as myself supposed to survive in such conditions? Suppressed indeed!
Point well taken about Amamake. PL is quite a challenge, and the pirates in the Amarr militia can be quite fun. I'll amend my note to say most pirate threats.
Cheers |
Kri Matar
Brutor Bike Co.
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Posted - 2012.01.01 22:38:00 -
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QFT
PL dont live in Ama. FYI. |
Delilah Wild
Concordokken Holdings Concordokken.
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:20:00 -
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Sometimes they stop over for a time.
You should shut off the computer, and get out into space more.
Cheers |
Viator Nex
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2012.01.02 11:19:00 -
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Oh god my sides. 10/10 |
K1RTH G3RS3N
Haunted House
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Posted - 2012.01.02 13:31:00 -
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Bad pirates everywhere being generally bad. Haunted House, once an honorable corpse trading company has turned to anti-piracy for lol-noob-kills and will be enforcing the law in 2012! |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:04:00 -
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Silver Chair wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Black Rebel Rifter Club is some real **** man. Just check their killboard - Retrievers in Amos, ******* pros **** right there. Thank you sir. We appreciate all of our fans :)
You guys were fun to shoot at, though I never understood your reliance on frigates.
jasondamien Severasse wrote:Aye, we need to ban together, And focus on our common enemy, and not quibble over unimportant things, When we fight amongst ourselves they have already won....All pirates should understand that age old tactic of divide and conquer, which the anti - pir's seem to be doing all to well....So i say let us focus our rage on those so deserving of it, the time has come for us to raise our black flags and begin to slit throats ( quote from H.L. Mencken ) and take back what is ours...EVERYTHING .......
Heh Profession Dockers, that is an amusing name in light of the fact that you never undocked without 3-1 odds. Gunpoint brought the hammer, you fools sat in station and provided commentary even when you had superior numbers.
Like two good fights in a year, and the snipe Apoc/Scorp mix became terribly predicable. |
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:36:00 -
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Ya our hulks and macks in high sec run from being ganked by the "COA" for pirating ore.
COA is a joke! Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Svenjabi Xiang
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2012.01.03 18:57:00 -
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Delilah Wild wrote:
In the main though, most of the major pirate groups have all fallen before us, and generally run, pos up or dock when we are about. Negative Ten, Mean, The Chupas, Tempest Legion, Black Rebel Rifters, The Obsidian Front, Moira, Darklings, and so on.
Far be it for me to rain on anyone's marketting, but on at least three counts, I belive you need to correct your claims as they bear no relevance to the situation as it actually exists.
1.) Negative Ten. Still have daily fleets and healthily camp the rancer pipe as they have for years. Perhaps you may have confused the recent low numbers as pilots took time away to be with planetside relatives.
2.) Moira. The reasons can certainly be debated, but these have gone to Black Rise, not "fallen". Claiming to have beaten a combatant that moved to a new engagement zone and motif is probably exageration to the point that it needs to have been pointed out.
3.) The Obsydian Front. There are two errors here. First, and probably most important, while I understand why and how these ended up on your list of "criminals", they are certainly not pirates and have been exmplary partners in opening Matar space to industrial traffic through the liberal policy regarding customs tarrifs and we've found them to be respectful of independants and non-agressive traffic. Secondly, they are far an away not "fallen", in fact, seemingly thriving and growing, as I travel about, despite your efforts. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
83
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:03:00 -
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Ynot Eyob wrote:Ya our hulks and macks in high sec run from being ganked by the "COA" for pirating ore.
COA is a joke!
Whatever, you never would have been on the radar if you fools didn't try to pick off every pilot you could swarm under in Otou.
COA never pirated ****, if you had a hulk running in hi-sec it was kill rights. |
Deen Wispa
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:06:00 -
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Good lord. This thread is still going. The pirate tears are amazing in this thread. And so are their ability to rationalize why anti-pirating won't succeed in the future.
Anyway, it's good for everyone to see new content and angles so I support the OPs initiatives regardless if it's sustainable or not.
The argument that the OP's coalition is to give a good fight is irrelevant. Their job is eliminate or reduce piracy in the region at any costs. That's the 'role, they play'. Conversely, no one blames pirates for banding together and trying to oust the anti-pirates. We've all seen this happen time and time again.
You have new neighbors who infringe on your territory. If you don't have a strong enough crew, then you get on the batphone and call up your blues to help out. So it's funny for people to come into this thread and accuse the anti-pirates of doing the same exact thing that others have always done to ensure survival.
If we continue along the roleplaying theme that the anti-pirates are the good guys (cops) and the pirates are the bad guys(convicts, lowlifes, etc.) , then do you expect cops to give a good fight to thugs on the street? Of course not. They're gonna bring their boys and blob you to death.
That's life. C'est la eve.
inb4 rationalization ensues... |
ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:07:00 -
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This thread is going places. |
MobyMule
Black Talon Aerospace Black Watch.
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:09:00 -
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Glad to see alot of my old friends in Molden Heath still alive and well. I look forward to a new year with what I hope will be alot of good pvp in minnie space.
Love seeing Molden Heath getting some love on the forums. |
Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2012.01.04 11:41:00 -
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Svenjabi Xiang wrote:Delilah Wild wrote:
In the main though, most of the major pirate groups have all fallen before us, and generally run, pos up or dock when we are about. Negative Ten, Mean, The Chupas, Tempest Legion, Black Rebel Rifters, The Obsidian Front, Moira, Darklings, and so on.
Far be it for me to rain on anyone's marketting, but on at least three counts, I belive you need to correct your claims as they bear no relevance to the situation as it actually exists. 1.) Negative Ten. Still have daily fleets and healthily camp the rancer pipe as they have for years. Perhaps you may have confused the recent low numbers as pilots took time away to be with planetside relatives. 2.) Moira. The reasons can certainly be debated, but these have gone to Black Rise, not "fallen". Claiming to have beaten a combatant that moved to a new engagement zone and motif is probably exageration to the point that it needs to have been pointed out. 3.) The Obsydian Front. There are two errors here. First, and probably most important, while I understand why and how these ended up on your list of "criminals", they are certainly not pirates and have been exmplary partners in opening Matar space to industrial traffic through the liberal policy regarding customs tarrifs and we've found them to be respectful of independants and non-agressive traffic. Secondly, they are far an away not "fallen", in fact, seemingly thriving and growing, as I travel about, despite your efforts.
I will say this, I was in a COA fleet with 12 members BC down which came up against a 20+ member BS heavy fleet (no prop mods lol) of Neg Ten last month. They dropped caps and as soon as their carriers where out of triage they abandoned the field leaving us to loot the wrecks (half theirs half ours). I'd say COA power has been sufficiently projected to many pirate groups as Del indicated.
So, point number one you made here is moot.
Point number three, OF may not have a load of -10 sec status members, but they do actively pirate when in low sec. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.01.04 12:55:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote: Point number three, OF may not have a load of -10 sec status members, but they do actively pirate when in low sec.
Can you say none, and only fairly few with even a negative sec.
But you are right we do kill people in low sec for our resons, mabe because we have marked their corp or alliance as pirates, or because they have been marked KOS due some null sec issues.
There were stated, we were on a draw back... No we are not, Star Fraction handles otou just fine leaving us to others areas to handle, as an example you would have seen our 60 man fleet passing Amo last night, and most likely again tonight.
Why so big numbers.. Well some have marked us as pirates and will ruin their security status to ganking us.
Negative Ten.. Havnt changes a bit the past 6 months, and yes they bring out their carriers now and again regardless if its a frigate or a BS. Is it COA who have done what ever work, i doubt, we have been hitting Neg Ten many nights, and use brigde blobing in Rancer, no wounder if they dubble check whats incomming.
Mean Corp.. Again a know pirate corp in Gus.. COAs work, i doubt, we roam trough those system every week, last i past i got a comment in local from Commander that they didnt wana fight us as we were to organized.
Gun Diplomacy.. Last i checked i saw 6 Macharials as normal in and around Bosena. Could we catch them, no.. Did COA catch them.. I havnt see the kills..
Rifter Rebel.. Still good for a fight, but they do know how to mark down who the "Blobers" are, and i belive for all become hard to get a good fight with. COAs work, i doubt you are just marked as blobers as everyone else in bigger fleets.. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Kmelx
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2012.01.04 14:25:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote:I will say this, I was in a COA fleet with 12 members BC down which came up against a 20+ member BS heavy fleet (no prop mods lol) of Neg Ten last month. They dropped caps and as soon as their carriers where out of triage they abandoned the field leaving us to loot the wrecks (half theirs half ours). I'd say COA power has been sufficiently projected to many pirate groups as Del indicated.
So, point number one you made here is moot.
Point number three, OF may not have a load of -10 sec status members, but they do actively pirate when in low sec.
On the topic of Neg 10 after they left the field in that fight Amun mentioned (yes 20 man BS fleet with triage archon in support) left the field. They sent a non outlaw toon out to scan our fits when we were looting the field (lol wtf).
They stayed docked and stabbed their 20 man armour battleship fleet (yes you read that right the first time the pirate gang docked and used warp core stabs on their BS) then ran a couple of systems away and hid in a POS from our mostly armour cruiser fleet.
The engagement before that COA had with Neg 10 they lost three carriers and a Kronos amongst other ships, one carrier to our fleet and the other two carriers self destructed rather than die to our fleet and give up loss mails.
Neg 10 are unbelievably risk averse, I've only very rarely seen them leave Rancer in the year or so I've flown in and around Matari low sec, they always have scouts out in both directions watching for incoming fleets when they've camping or moving, when I've been in fleets who have gone into Rancer they dock or hide in their POS, they aren't interested in pew in my opinion they're mostly just interested in cheap ganks on passing traffic.
On TOF and their alleged non piracy, they don't just shoot their own reds, they're not averse to shooting anything they think will give them a shiney kill, which is one reason among many that COA has issues with them.
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