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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Akov Stohs
Originally by: Victoria DeBurr
You gotta stop sniffing the fart bubbles in your pod. The GM that did that was punshed by CCP, not the other way around. He's been taken off the case and sent to patrol Duripant with all the other rookie pilots.
Another Caldari lie. Is this a surprise to anyone?
and there are no Privateers in Jita...right?
Jita, is that Caldari for "Dirty Toliet"?
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Akov Stohs
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Verona Carrabanos
This is an accusation, and is patently false. If you can cite specific examples as to when a node has crashed due to excessive Local chatter by Goonswarm, please do so. If you can show an instance where GMs "punished" anyone in Goonswarm (keeping in mind that politely asking them to stop is hardly punishment), please do so. Not hearsay, not theory - FACT. The burden of proof is on the accuser, otherwise all you're doing is spreading rumors. Not to mention furiously backpedalling all the way to Stain .
To do so would be violation of forum rules, and you know that.
Not sure who you are talking about back pedalling to stain....
and please, move to your main, or go away.
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Akov Stohs
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Victoria DeBurr
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Jita, is that Caldari for "Dirty Toliet"?
roughly translated, it means "Lag Hole", which if you translate to Amarrian, and then Gallentian it comes out to Dirty Toilet, but then again translating anything from Amarrian to Gallentian turns out about simular
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Akov Stohs
Originally by: Victoria DeBurr
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Jita, is that Caldari for "Dirty Toliet"?
roughly translated, it means "Lag Hole", which if you translate to Amarrian, and then Gallentian it comes out to Dirty Toilet, but then again translating anything from Amarrian to Gallentian turns out about simular
Soo pretty much you again, Caldari people are dirty toliets.
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Aceonfire
Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:08:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Aceonfire on 27/02/2007 06:05:22
Originally by: Verona Carrabanos
Originally by: Akov Stohs I accused no one of anything....
Originally by: Akov Stohs Goon - Famous For "fofofofofo<node crash>" ... In huge droves of both of those alliances have openly done those things, and are openly proud of it.
This is an accusation, and is patently false. If you can cite specific examples as to when a node has crashed due to excessive Local chatter by Goonswarm, please do so. If you can show an instance where GMs "punished" anyone in Goonswarm (keeping in mind that politely asking them to stop is hardly punishment), please do so. Not hearsay, not theory - FACT. The burden of proof is on the accuser, otherwise all you're doing is spreading rumors. Not to mention furiously backpedalling all the way to Stain .
I suggest finding a new name for your alt posting corp, as you are horrible at "rumor control"
Goons were warned in DG- during the first or 2nd large engagement in that system, at the start of the war. Since then, Goons have not dared spam in local like that again. I was there.
As far as crashing a node causing lag, anyone who has been in local when 150 people all start spamming local with garbage, knows it causes the server to come to a crawl.
We don't need some Goon alt like yourself, created to post on the forum, to validate anything.
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:25:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Aceonfire Edited by: Aceonfire on 27/02/2007 06:05:22
Originally by: Verona Carrabanos
Originally by: Akov Stohs I accused no one of anything....
Originally by: Akov Stohs Goon - Famous For "fofofofofo<node crash>" ... In huge droves of both of those alliances have openly done those things, and are openly proud of it.
This is an accusation, and is patently false. If you can cite specific examples as to when a node has crashed due to excessive Local chatter by Goonswarm, please do so. If you can show an instance where GMs "punished" anyone in Goonswarm (keeping in mind that politely asking them to stop is hardly punishment), please do so. Not hearsay, not theory - FACT. The burden of proof is on the accuser, otherwise all you're doing is spreading rumors. Not to mention furiously backpedalling all the way to Stain .
I suggest finding a new name for your alt posting corp, as you are horrible at "rumor control"
Goons were warned in DG- during the first or 2nd large engagement in that system, at the start of the war. Since then, Goons have not dared spam in local like that again. I was there.
As far as crashing a node causing lag, anyone who has been in local when 150 people all start spamming local with garbage, knows it causes the server to come to a crawl.
We don't need some Goon alt like yourself, created to post on the forum, to validate anything.
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go! Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Pax Uranus
Sofa.Kingdom
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:28:00 -
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Oh Mittani. I see what you did there.
Having some of your operatives who've infiltrated LV start going ape via brainless flagellation in inane CAOD threads to somehow make LV look even funnier is a masterstroke.
The thing that troubles me though is that now that your involvement has been revealed, is the "Aceonfire" character going to have to be sold off? Why waste an operative like that?
If somehow I'm wrong, well wow. Keep the comedy coming. Keep on truckin' Mister Ace. Keep on truckin'.
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:28:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Aceonfire Edited by: Aceonfire on 27/02/2007 06:05:22
Originally by: Verona Carrabanos
Originally by: Akov Stohs I accused no one of anything....
Originally by: Akov Stohs Goon - Famous For "fofofofofo<node crash>" ... In huge droves of both of those alliances have openly done those things, and are openly proud of it.
This is an accusation, and is patently false. If you can cite specific examples as to when a node has crashed due to excessive Local chatter by Goonswarm, please do so. If you can show an instance where GMs "punished" anyone in Goonswarm (keeping in mind that politely asking them to stop is hardly punishment), please do so. Not hearsay, not theory - FACT. The burden of proof is on the accuser, otherwise all you're doing is spreading rumors. Not to mention furiously backpedalling all the way to Stain .
I suggest finding a new name for your alt posting corp, as you are horrible at "rumor control"
Goons were warned in DG- during the first or 2nd large engagement in that system, at the start of the war. Since then, Goons have not dared spam in local like that again. I was there.
As far as crashing a node causing lag, anyone who has been in local when 150 people all start spamming local with garbage, knows it causes the server to come to a crawl.
We don't need some Goon alt like yourself, created to post on the forum, to validate anything.
How about "Welcome to Stain Have a Nice Day INC"?
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Macdeth
Ephemeral Misgivings
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aceonfire As far as crashing a node causing lag, anyone who has been in local when 150 people all start spamming local with garbage, knows it causes the server to come to a crawl.
Repetition does not make reality.
One line of chat is one server message sent to each person in the channel. Contrast this to merely 100 ships on a grid, flying about and shooting at each other, bearing in mind that every single movement and nearly every module activation made by each of those 100 ships must be relayed to every one of the others. A hundred ships on a grid in combat is generally very playable any time but weekends, and thousands of times the load of a few hundred chat messages.
Please abandon your delusion.
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Akov Stohs
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:30:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Originally by: Aceonfire
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
Are you incappible of being Nice? or atleast respectful?
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:35:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Akov Stohs
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Originally by: Aceonfire
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
Are you incappible of being Nice? or atleast respectful?
To someone like Ace? Hell no. He lost mine and just about everyone's respect a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago. 'Sides. . .if you can't take the heat. . .stay outta the kitchen. . .or fire. . .or however that saying goes. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Verona Carrabanos
Rumor Control
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Aceonfire I suggest finding a new name for your alt posting corp, as you are horrible at "rumor control"
Goons were warned in DG- during the first or 2nd large engagement in that system, at the start of the war. Since then, Goons have not dared spam in local like that again. I was there.
As far as crashing a node causing lag, anyone who has been in local when 150 people all start spamming local with garbage, knows it causes the server to come to a crawl.
We don't need some Goon alt like yourself, created to post on the forum, to validate anything.
The logs from the GM encounter in DG- were posted and reposted on many publicly viewable forums. No official warning was given. Once again, rumor.
As for my lineage, what this board "needs" is a healthy purging of arrogant, propagandizing talking heads from dying alliances who'd rather grasp at straws and proclaim phantom exploits as the cause of their downfall rather than accepting defeat with some dignity. I guess neither of us will get what we want. --- This is rumor control. Here are the facts. |
Akov Stohs
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:42:00 -
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Edited by: Akov Stohs on 27/02/2007 06:38:52
Originally by: Verona Carrabanos
... what this board "needs" is a healthy purging of arrogant, propagandizing talking heads ...
so stop posting
</humor> edit: sorry for the personal attack...but I truely thouht it was commedy and not ment to taken personally
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Aceonfire
Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:48:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
My point, as you proved in your post, is a complete lack of maturity, respect, and in general, class by the vast majority of Goonfleet.
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Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:52:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 27/02/2007 06:48:37 Kindergarten online that's all that comes into my mind after reading the last pages ...
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Akov Stohs
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:57:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 27/02/2007 06:48:37 Kindergarten online that's all that comes into my mind after reading the last pages ...
Thats Completely unfair!
most kindergarteners act way better then ANY of us on this forum
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:58:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
My point, as you proved in your post, is a complete lack of maturity, respect, and in general, class by the vast majority of Goonfleet.
Ok....remind me who sued who over a spaceship game again...
Spoken like a true Caldari, through the side of his mouth.
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Arcturus Delanto
Caldari W R U
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:00:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Arcturus Delanto on 27/02/2007 06:57:18 removed
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:07:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Liquid Vision Mostly crap, nonsense, flames, general dumbness
Who are you? Why are you involved so heatedly in this discussion? For someone whos accusing others of being Bob alts (quite heatedly if I do say so) you sure do smell like a goon.
So um, PWYM?
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Sigmorhair
Gallente Eisenmetal
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:16:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
God the irony.
You guys blatantly cheat to get a mothership.
Then you cry and moan that goonfleet (only 1 of the many alliances fighting you) brings a lot of people to fights.
Grow up. My point, as you proved in your post, is a complete lack of maturity, respect, and in general, class by the vast majority of Goonfleet.
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:17:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
My point, as you proved in your post, is a complete lack of maturity, respect, and in general, class by the vast majority of Goonfleet.
Funny that you try pegging me as a Goonie to justify your huge loads of bullbutter. All you've got left is weak excuses and loads of crap to sling, hoping that eventually some minor part of it might stick.
Tho, ya know what. . .I'm TOTALLY sure that LV has been NOTHING BUT class. I mean, saying all the Russians had to run plexes and whatnot to feed their families. . .THAT'S some classy stuff right there. Funny considering that those same guys are taking a break from "feeding their families" so they can feed you a huge load of crow. I hope it tastes good!
Plus, someone please tell me how many official Goons post here other than Tetsujin and Mittani.....then point out all the sad LV flamers that troll these boards constantly instead of working to save their space. My point exactly.
The tears of LV feed the 'Train. . .and it rolls on and on. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:18:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: Liquid Vision Mostly crap, nonsense, flames, general dumbness
Who are you? Why are you involved so heatedly in this discussion? For someone whos accusing others of being Bob alts (quite heatedly if I do say so) you sure do smell like a goon.
So um, PWYM?
And who exactly are YOU again running around always slamming the Goons and licking BOB's rectum?
So um, PWYM?
Jesus. . .either get some skill or just leave. . .you're embarrassing yourself. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:21:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Liquid Vision
Again, what's your point? That you're a whiny sore loser? Goons haven't been fofoing any local channels for awhile now and they're STILL cleaning house with you. Oh, that's right. . .the GMs are secretly offlining all of LVs towers so the Goons can take over.
Send us all a postcard from Stain bro. . .and make sure to let us know how the petitions against the Devswarm go!
My point, as you proved in your post, is a complete lack of maturity, respect, and in general, class by the vast majority of Goonfleet.
As someone else brought up, who "bribed" someone to spill the beans and won a mothership from a rigged contest again? Have you Caldari no souls? If you fly with Lotka Volterra, you fly with unclean toliets and fartbubbles in your pod.
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:30:00 -
[114]
I'm really confused about this Liquid Vision chap's position, he seems to be jumping the fence back and forth, one minute anti-GS/pro-LV, the other anti-LV/pro-GS, but either way I think we can all agree that he should just stop posting. :)
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:31:00 -
[115]
To hell with it, you should all just stop. :)
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Aceonfire
Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:31:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Victoria DeBurr
Ok....remind me who sued who over a spaceship game again...
Spoken like a true Caldari, through the side of his mouth.
I don't know anything about legal issues of LV, and I'm sure you do not either. You are simply spamming rumors you have read on this forum.
I do remember Goons having everyone from their alliance try to crash LV teamspeak ~ 2 weeks ago. They gave the anon. pw to their members and suddendly our TS server lobby filled up with Goonfleet. Even after they were banned, they were still able to join.
Typical Goons.
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TechnoMag
Minmatar Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Space Harrier Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang? It would appear to me that they intend to dominate the game much in the same way that BoB has done for the last couple of years now.
Goons cant hold any space without help from RA or other old alliance. They still lack in capital fleet and they still dont know how to fight. Im fighting with them daily and from what i see they r used by the RA, CA and others like a blob shield, they r sent in numbers to lock a system by blobing.
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keesie
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:40:00 -
[118]
As an outsider newbie interested in Eve-politics I can say you look ******* retarded for flaming people on their choice of ingame race.
The people saying 'lol i knew caldari where retarded' really need to go outside a bit more because you're on the brink of being a complete imbecile.
That is all.
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: keesie As an outsider newbie interested in Eve-politics I can say you look ******* retarded for flaming people on their choice of ingame race.
The people saying 'lol i knew caldari where retarded' really need to go outside a bit more because you're on the brink of being a complete imbecile.
That is all.
Spoken like a true Caldari boot-licker. Say wise brain child with no social skills (lol 3 cha) you have to click some magical things in order to post here without getting your post removed. But that's too hard for you Caldari types isn't it?
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redeyehunter
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:53:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Khetchi Edited by: Khetchi on 27/02/2007 01:17:54
Originally by: Aceonfire
When an entire alliances sets in action a plan to exploit, what is without a doubt, the single biggest problem with this game, I feel someone should speak up.
Sadly, games such as this tend to reward those players who are able to find the loopholes and exploit them the quickest. These "exploits" are an integral part of this, or any other, MMO whether you like them or not.
Surely the devs will eventually find a way to close this exploit, but it won't take long before someone finds a new way to take advantage of the game mechanics to gain an advantage over others... and then the whole thing starts over again.
Howeverm the biggest selling point EVE had over other MMOs for me is the fact that there were no WTFUBERPWN players in the game. A player in eve couldn't become an unkillable God-like beong with the ability to slaughter 1000+ "newbies" at once with no risk whatsoever. Anybody, regardless of what skills they have or what ship they are flying, can be killed at any time.
Goonswarm is simply using the tactic that has been proven effective by Industrial Corps against PVP corps in the past, albeit on a much larger scale... Throwing a massive number of disposable ships against the expensive Capital ships and making it prohibitively expensive for the opposition to continue.
You may not like it. Heck, I wouldn't like being on the receiving end of it myself. However, you have to remember that BoB itself used this tactic repeatedly during their war with ASCN, sending massive Battleship/cruiser fleets against ASCN Dreadnaught/Carrier fleets. Goonswarm is just taking a tactic proven effective by BoB and taking it to the obvious next level.
As far as "closing" a system or "crashing" a node goes, again this is just an extension of tactics that have been used effectively in the past. How many times on the forums has it been pointed out that a corporation or alliance entered a system and immediatly began dumping jetcans in order to do this? Now Goonswarm is doing it more effectively with T1 frigates.
Of course I have to disagree with you that this is "the single biggest problem with this game." In my opinion, the biggest problem with this game is the fact that older, more experienced players and corporations can roll over "newbies" with impunity and then brag about their prowess... as if camping a station with a Fleet Recon and ganking newbies who can barely fly a Cruiser is some sort of accomplishment, or gatecamping with three Battleships and ganking newbies trying to run courier missions somehow makes you a "pirate".
This is why Goonswarm is getting so many new members every month... Think of it as "Revenge of the Noobs". After being walked over and griefed repeatedly in Highsec they are banding together and taking out their frustrations on those who have been laughing at them and giving them advice along the lines of "Stop being a Carebear and move to 0.0!" or "If you don't like it, go play WoW!" Well, they took your advice... They're no longer Carebears and have moved into 0.0, and they found out that they like going after uppity Elites and ganking them with frigates.
So this is war of Noobs vs Ubers. Well Ubers the Noobs are laying the gaunlet down. You know which side you need to join.
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