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Mr Binkins
Grain Fields Inc.
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Posted - 2016.05.04 03:08:17 -
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I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2016.05.04 03:42:11 -
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Mr Binkins wrote:I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil. Like the rest of us, if you don't want to be ripped off by scumbag, scamming NPCs, find a friendly player with a Citadel who isn't charging, or who is charging much less.
Those nasty NPCs really suck, but other players are really cool. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.05.04 04:21:42 -
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Build your own citadels in Jita and Dodixie then.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Keebler Wizard
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.04 04:39:39 -
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It was suppose to be 5m per jump, then they changed it to 900k.
Cry more please |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.05.04 04:53:45 -
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#nopoorspls
Just Add Water
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Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.05.04 05:40:21 -
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This is like the best change ever |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.04 06:14:02 -
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... you can make 1m in less time that it takes to JC but if you want it cheaper use a
Citadel worm hole tax
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.04 07:42:35 -
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I agree with the OP.
Waiting damn near 24 hours for next jump is more than enough payment for using jump clones.
In my opinion CCP has placed way too much tax on NPC station services trying to force players into using Citadels. I highly doubt players are going to use an easily destructible structure as a major Trade Hub / Clone Bay in high and low sec.
Been playing this game for 8 years and the past year has seen some of the worst game changes forced upon the playerbase. New stuff isn't even tested anymore nor is player feedback even acknowledged. Each new release just adds more bugged and incomplete content to the ever growing list of things to fix.
Sorry peeps but that's how I view things.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2016.05.04 07:52:22 -
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JCs should be removed from game and we should be allowed to remove and replace implants in any clone bay station or via Clone Vat Bay on supported ships. Just make it so you can swap implants within 5km in space while the vat bay is active.
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.04 08:09:22 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:JCs should be removed from game and we should be allowed to remove and replace implants in any clone bay station or via Clone Vat Bay on supported ships. Just make it so you can swap implants within 5km in space while the vat bay is active.
Do away with the jc charge or make it 100k per jump and make it 20k to plug in or remove any implant at a suitable station/ship/citadel with clone facilities. That way you could swap them around but it still creates an isk sink, just not in a big lump sum charge.
You remove them before jumping and have a set at the other end, but, if you jump with them in, you lose them all.
I'd even back lowering the timer to say 10 or 8 hours so you could jump back the next morning. |
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.05.04 08:26:11 -
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fck all this entitlement bs... now i want for the to clone upgrade mechanic and sp lose to come back.
Just Add Water
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sci0gon
Kaira Innovations Superior Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2016.05.04 08:29:37 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Build your own citadels in Jita and Dodixie then.
Im not sure if thats possible.
Nat Silverguard wrote:fck all this entitlement bs... now i want for the to clone upgrade mechanic and sp lose to come back.
That certainly would push the price up on that experience injectors :P |
Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.04 09:08:16 -
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If you can't make 900k in a 19 hour period then you need to quit EVE |
Lucas Kell
Evolution. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.04 10:37:13 -
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Mr Binkins wrote:I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil. Stop being poor.
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Jack Hayson
La Luna Negro inPanic
372
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Posted - 2016.05.04 13:09:57 -
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Are people seriously complaining about having to pay 900k ISK to travel across the entire galaxy instantly? How poor are you?! |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.05.04 13:12:15 -
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Julien Brellier wrote:If you can't make 900k in a 19 hour period then you need to quit EVE
+1
900k isk is literally 54 seconds of ratting (using a Vexor Navy Issue in any null anomaly that has at least 1 battleship in it).
The average lvl 4 mission pays out something like 19 clone jumps per mission. Completing a SINGLE high sec HQ incursion site (which is about 8-15 minutes depending on the site and your fleet) pays enough for 35 jump clone jumps (ie a single incursion site pays for a month of jump cloning). And all the above are PVE activities, the OP seems like a station trader and station traders can earn WAY more income.
Funny thing is, I saw this in real life several times. The craziest happened when I was a younger. I'd visit my grandfather's farm from time to time. His neighbor was a well to do man who had retired after making a lot of money in some kind of financial sector career, and I was friends with the neighbors grandson, so one day when i was about 20 I was at their house when he came storming in complaining about injustice. My friend asked his granddad why he was upset and he proclaimed that "the price gouging United States Postal Service had done it again".
I came to find out the reason for his anger was that the price of a postage stamp went up from 29 cents to 32 cents that month. He mailed like 10 letters a month, so the USPS was getting him for a whole 'nother 30 cents per month over what he'd been paying. The guy with a 6 bedroom house and umpteen million acres of land lost his mind over 30 cents.
I think the same thing is happening here. People who are good at making money (like industrialist and station traders in EVE....) tend to be super skin-flint types when it comes to their own money, and see any kind of fee increase (no matter how trivial) as outright robbery. It seems silly to the rest of us (because it is) but it's just a part of what makes them tick. |
Knitram Relik
Running With Railguns
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Posted - 2016.05.04 13:25:53 -
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You're crying over a million ISK a day?
Sack up. If that's hurting your bottom line, you're Eveing wrong. |
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
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Posted - 2016.05.04 13:53:57 -
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You could, oh I dunno undock and shoot something and get that million? Too lazy? Uhh... trade more? Stop cloning? Fly the 12 jumps or whatever it is? Find friends with a citadel?
OH! Or you could just suck it up because there is zero wrong with it. |
Hawke Frost
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Posted - 2016.05.04 13:58:27 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I think the same thing is happening here. People who are good at making money (like industrialist and station traders in EVE....) tend to be super skin-flint types when it comes to their own money, and see any kind of fee increase (no matter how trivial) as outright robbery. It seems silly to the rest of us (because it is) but it's just a part of what makes them tick.
If you cross them just a tiny little bit in EVE, they go from "we're very friendly folks, those pvpers are nasty baby eating psychopaths!" to full-on ******. It's very entertaining to see how different people with different play styles react to being out played in this competitive game.
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Shalashaska Adam
Partial Safety
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Posted - 2016.05.04 14:23:59 -
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Have they also added the ability to jump between clones docked in the same station without incurring the 24hr timer?
I do believe it was said those two changes were to be coming at the same time. |
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Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.04 14:39:24 -
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New ecm balance? x isk per activation? Or maybe ecm has really high priced charges that are consumed every activation?
Or even better x isk for x minutes cloaked? Same as above with charges. No more infinite cloakers in your system |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.04 19:23:22 -
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OP reminds me why Jump Clones should have never been added in the first place.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.05.04 19:32:19 -
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Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Charley Varrick
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.05.04 19:43:03 -
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You guys should go back and start EVE over from scratch where lev1 mission payouts are like 150k including the bonus and the cheapest frigs are 1mill+. To a new player 900k is a fortune. Just say'n.... |
Cord Binchiette
Intergalactic Fight Club Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2016.05.04 20:06:14 -
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Mr Binkins wrote:I am very upset, i just paid a mil to JC from Jita to Dodixie. Something I'm used to doing often as i trade passengers on the market as a hobby and to learn station trading. I am extremely upset about this new change. you want to charge a small fee for JCing that fine, make it less than half a mil.
The distance from The Forge to Sinq Laison is one jump gate. Is it really too much trouble to undock, jump, and redock? |
Isaac Armer
Tactical Stability Union Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2016.05.04 20:15:52 -
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Charley Varrick wrote:You guys should go back and start EVE over from scratch where lev1 mission payouts are like 150k including the bonus and the cheapest frigs are 1mill+. To a new player 900k is a fortune. Just say'n....
Do new players really need jump clones though? |
Hawke Frost
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Posted - 2016.05.04 20:47:18 -
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Charley Varrick wrote:You guys should go back and start EVE over from scratch where lev1 mission payouts are like 150k including the bonus and the cheapest frigs are 1mill+. To a new player 900k is a fortune. Just say'n....
"Think of the newbies!" has always been a fake reasoning used by people who want to get something done they don't have actual good arguments for, it generally translates to "I personally don't like it". |
Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2016.05.04 22:11:44 -
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Tip to save a clone jump: Jita->Dodixie is a nice opportunity to travel afk in a shuttle while smoking a fine cigarette (or two and slowly) on the window. Would name the shuttle "just smoking afk" or so, I tink that would be totally safe. |
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
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Posted - 2016.05.04 22:22:38 -
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Charley Varrick wrote:You guys should go back and start EVE over from scratch where lev1 mission payouts are like 150k including the bonus and the cheapest frigs are 1mill+. To a new player 900k is a fortune. Just say'n....
I have gone back and started eve from scratch.
I was grumpy because i couldn't afford snake implants from the get go or fly a Vexor on day one.
You shouldn't need to use jump clones until you can do enough stuff on the learning curve to afford jump clones.
These instant gratification marshmallows need to enjoy the Journey, not just the achievement.
Dan
Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
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Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
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Posted - 2016.05.04 23:27:32 -
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Charley Varrick wrote:You guys should go back and start EVE over from scratch where lev1 mission payouts are like 150k including the bonus and the cheapest frigs are 1mill+. To a new player 900k is a fortune. Just say'n.... Then - wait for it - don't use jump clones! Simple
"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
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